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It's Official - Rudi Signs with Lions (1 Viewer)
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aardball44
Footballguy
Depends on how deep your league is, and how healthy Kevin Smith can remain throughout the season.FWIW, I dropped Rudi a couple of hours ago because Perry was still sitting on the waiver wire (10-man league, four RB cap per team).
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
I'd say he's worth rostering in most formats. Bittersweet for those of us that own both Chris Perry and Kevin Smith.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
Bryant Johnson is bad at football
identikit
Footballguy
No.
Why not??
Koya
Footballguy
I don't see why this is such a big threat to Smith. For Rudi to play, two things have to happen. First, Rudi has to actually get his ### into shape and his attitude in the right frame of mind. IF he can do both to the point of being a prodcutive back, Kevin Smith will also have to perform poorly.
If Smith is doing well out there production wise, I dont see Rudi doing much. Rudi was an ok back in a fantastic situation - and he got dinged a bunch and apparantly had some issues with the coaching staff and team by the end. Don't see this as a threat unless Rudi has more in the tank and mentally than I have realized.
If Smith is doing well out there production wise, I dont see Rudi doing much. Rudi was an ok back in a fantastic situation - and he got dinged a bunch and apparantly had some issues with the coaching staff and team by the end. Don't see this as a threat unless Rudi has more in the tank and mentally than I have realized.
joffer
Footballguy
Absolutely!!!!I mean no! Drop Jon Beason instead!!!!11
identikit
Footballguy
See post # 4.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
Don't do it. But hang around like a vulture watching the Lions game. If Kevin Smith fumbles, pounce!
Meat
Footballguy
Smith owner here, must say I'm not too concerned about this. Rudi is 28, coming off (and still is) injured. Doesn't know the Lions playbook - and Smith is a 1st round pick. Rudi will snake some carries and I'm sure some GL stuff, but any Smith owners already expected the same out of Tatum Bell. If anything, I'm happy with this - maybe a drive or two of them smashing Rudi up the gut will help open things up for Smith.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Smith is not a first round pick. Or a second.
RB seems to be one position where knowing the playbook seems irrelevant. It is one of the few positions a rookie can come in the league and dominate. Assuming Rudi is close to being healthy, Smith should be worried. Very worried.
Meat
Footballguy
Yikes, typed that up way to quick here - meant to type 3rd round pick and took 1st team reps all pre-season
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Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
I think this is a great opportunity to steal K smith from a guppy/nervous owner.
Addai's Adidas
Footballguy
I own Calvin and Kevin Smith. The Rudi signing concerns me, yes, but what ever keeps the offense on the field is what you want. Kevin smith never looked great but he was at least assured touches. He may have just went from 20-25 touches to 15. Big hit. It's James Stewart all over again.
Hipple Long Ware & Peete
Footballguy
no way. I bet u own lendale white and fargas too.
FFdork
Footballguy
Dear gbill2004,
When you create a topic on a player you're interested in, there's this nifty feature called the 'edit' button available to you, the original poster. Among other things, you can edit the title and subtitle of a thread.
This allows you to update the thread title with the latest news. For example, your threads entitled 'Rudi Johnson to visit Lions Sunday night' or 'Rudi's value if he signs with Detroit?' or 'Rudi Johnson dropped' could have all been contained in a single thread INSTEAD OF CREATING UMPTEEN THREADS ABOUT THE SAME PLAYER WHICH YOU'VE BEEN DOING OVER AND OVER. Simply post your latest update and/or 'should I pick him up' question in that thread to bump it.
TIA,
The Shark Pool
When you create a topic on a player you're interested in, there's this nifty feature called the 'edit' button available to you, the original poster. Among other things, you can edit the title and subtitle of a thread.
This allows you to update the thread title with the latest news. For example, your threads entitled 'Rudi Johnson to visit Lions Sunday night' or 'Rudi's value if he signs with Detroit?' or 'Rudi Johnson dropped' could have all been contained in a single thread INSTEAD OF CREATING UMPTEEN THREADS ABOUT THE SAME PLAYER WHICH YOU'VE BEEN DOING OVER AND OVER. Simply post your latest update and/or 'should I pick him up' question in that thread to bump it.
TIA,
The Shark Pool
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Balance
Footballguy
Bob Lee Swagger
Footballguy
JuSt CuZ
Footballguy
Of course he is worth picking up!!!
Rudi is proven, and we all hate on him now because he was hurt last year. He is 28 about to be 29 and and had many great fantasy years until his down year of last year. If he gets 250 carries he will produce, plus he can stay healthy with the offset of KS. Not to mention we always believe the media, if Rudi was feeling like he was about te be traded and feel it was coming for a while, that means something was up between him and marvin that was unknown by us and maybe its not really the injury that was the problem. Not to mention the cap problems it clears up and Marvin is not the easiest guy to get a long with it seems.
So with all that being said....Rudi is a steal if you can just claim him off waivers, I did in anticipation of this, he was a first round fantasy pick not but a year ago.
Over coach it guys, and I'll take a flyer on him after all, I used my last round pick to cut for him anyways.
Rudi is proven, and we all hate on him now because he was hurt last year. He is 28 about to be 29 and and had many great fantasy years until his down year of last year. If he gets 250 carries he will produce, plus he can stay healthy with the offset of KS. Not to mention we always believe the media, if Rudi was feeling like he was about te be traded and feel it was coming for a while, that means something was up between him and marvin that was unknown by us and maybe its not really the injury that was the problem. Not to mention the cap problems it clears up and Marvin is not the easiest guy to get a long with it seems.
So with all that being said....Rudi is a steal if you can just claim him off waivers, I did in anticipation of this, he was a first round fantasy pick not but a year ago.
Over coach it guys, and I'll take a flyer on him after all, I used my last round pick to cut for him anyways.
Max Power
Footballguy
Lions released RB Tatum Bell.
It's surprising he lasted this long. Perhaps the Texans will give Bell a look in free agency, but don't bet on him ever having a large role again. There were rumblings that Bell lost his passion for the game in Detroit and he's so one-dimensional that his impact on any team will be minimal.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Related: Texans
It's surprising he lasted this long. Perhaps the Texans will give Bell a look in free agency, but don't bet on him ever having a large role again. There were rumblings that Bell lost his passion for the game in Detroit and he's so one-dimensional that his impact on any team will be minimal.
Source: Profootballtalk.com
Related: Texans
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I can tell you this, if you're a Kevin Smith owner, you should be more concerned with Rudi Johnson on the Lions than Tatum Bell. If Rudi isn't healthy (not sure why the Lions would sign him and release Bell if that were the case), then you don't have nothing to worry about as a Smith owner.
However, with Bell behind Smith, you didn't have anything to worry about with Bell healthy or not......he stunk.
If Rudi Johnson stays healthy or is healthy, he is much more of a threat to stealing carries than Tatum Bell ever was.
I'm not so sure Rudi is automatically done. I mean, if it were the New England Patriots, a well managed team maybe I'd trust it but we're talking about the Cinci Bengals and Marvin Lewis who will be fired at the end of the year. It could just be that Rudi didn't offer much more than a healthy Perry and Watson could offer and they released him.
OK, well Rudi's still better than Tatum Bell, he's ridiculously bad.
However, with Bell behind Smith, you didn't have anything to worry about with Bell healthy or not......he stunk.
If Rudi Johnson stays healthy or is healthy, he is much more of a threat to stealing carries than Tatum Bell ever was.
I'm not so sure Rudi is automatically done. I mean, if it were the New England Patriots, a well managed team maybe I'd trust it but we're talking about the Cinci Bengals and Marvin Lewis who will be fired at the end of the year. It could just be that Rudi didn't offer much more than a healthy Perry and Watson could offer and they released him.
OK, well Rudi's still better than Tatum Bell, he's ridiculously bad.
Gopher State
Footballguy
Rudi went from being the #1 RB for Cinni with a poor o-line to sharing carries with a Detroit team which has a worst o-line then Cinni.
I don't see this as being good news/upgrade for Rudi.
I don't see this as being good news/upgrade for Rudi.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm skeptical... this may just be a ploy by Shanahan trying to motivate him....
RavensUNFL
Footballguy
Detroit also picked up Rookie Marcus Thomas who played well for SD this preseason, I think he is more of a threat than Rudi is. Just mho of course.
blackjack23
Footballguy
You said it
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Cass Durham
Footballguy
All this Rudi Johnson news is a non-story. Rudi Johnson is now a back-up. He will not threaten K.Smith for the starting job. Rudi Johnson is most likely done. The only reason they signed Johnson is the fact that T.Bell was one of the wort RBs in the league.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't think anyone is saying this is good news for Rudi compared to where his situation was a month ago where it looked like he was the starting RB for Cinci, however that was a mirage.For Rudi, he is going to get a paycehck....I'm sure he'll make more than me this year.What people are ultimately doing is trying to figure out what this means for Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith had his own issues just trying to overcome the poor offensive line that Detroit has and rookie fullback Felton who looks like he has some goaline potential. Now with Rudi Johnson, a guy who has much more goaline experience than former backup Tatum Bell had, it's definately newsworthy and should be discussed.
Rudi Johnson is an all pro with three seasons with over 1300 yards rushing. Rudi is only 28 years old. K. Smith doesn't have one carry in an NFL game and hasn't been all that impressive. Who knows what will happen, but to discount Rudi as a non-story is ridiculous.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
opinions are like...you know what.Starting running back Rudi Johnson has a chip on his shoulder this year, and he's running like it. Johnson has looked sharp all week coming off a hamstring injury in 2007. He slimmed down last year in an effort to increase his quickness but he ended up getting injured. This year he packed on at least 15 pounds of muscle and looks like the Rudi Johnson of old in training camp."I'm feeling good," Johnson said with a smile. "I still got a six pack and all that, so I'm still in shape. The clothes fit good. They started fitting different a couple years ago, but now they fit fine."
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcnorth/0-0-10...camp-notes.html
Former center Rich Braham had his under-rated career suddenly end against Cleveland in 2006, the same game that David Pollack's career ended. Eric Steinbach was forced to play center and tackle, as well as guard, in that season. The offensive line was being patched, shuffled, and showed instability. Rudi Johnson came up nearly 150 yards short of his 2004 and 2005 performances. Then in 2007, a hamstring injury likely sealed any chance for Rudi Johnson to regain the form that set two franchise rushing records.
July 30, 2008
The Cincinnati Enquirer reports that Rudi Johnson has come into camp nearly 20 pounds heavier than a season ago, yet his body fat percentage is down. Johnson worked with Bengals strength and conditioning coaches Chip Morton and Ray Oliver daily in the offseason program and unveiled his larger, sculpted physique this week at training camp.
Our View:And get this - he looks faster. All indications point to a bounce-back season for Rudi. He has been running a lot more physically. “More power in the legs,” Johnson said again of the difference between 2007 and 2008. “I feel stronger getting in and out of my cuts. I can feel it every time I cut. It's just there.
If not for the hammy he would be a top 10 FF RB....he gets that well and its game on...new team ,new attitude
EBF
Footballguy
He was never an elite player. Now that he's broken down and a step slower, he's got a big giant fork stuck in his back. Rudi is finished as relevant FF player. He may get some carries if Smith struggles, but he'll never again eclipse 800 yards rushing in a season. I would trade him for a song right now.
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Dont be so sure. Smith has been far from impressive during the preseason. Kitna played with Rudi and has a rapport with him. Also....After practice Monday, Lions coach Rod Marinelli said, "I just had a chance to watch him in some drills (during a workout) and he's impressive. He's a big, thick guy who has great feet. I played against him over the years so I know he's a very physical back. He's a guy with a lot of talent and a lot of experience.''
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
hes worth grabbing off waivers to say the least...stash and wait.Lions Sign Rudi Johnson --Mon Sep 1, 2008 --from FFMastermind.com Mlive.com reports according to a source close to the situation, free agent RB Rudi Johnson has signed a contract with the Lions. Terms of the deal were not disclosed. Johnson, who rushed for 1,000 yards in three straight seasons with the Cincinnati Bengals (2004-06), is expected to replace RB Tatum Bell as the No. 2 running back behind starter RB Kevin Smith. The Lions, however, have yet to announce any roster moves. The addition of the eight-year veteran might mean the Lions will use more of a platoon system at running back. After practice on Monday, Lions HC Rod Marinelli said, "I just had a chance to watch him in some drills (during a workout) and he's impressive. He's a big, thick guy who has great feet. I played against him over the years so I know he's a very physical back. He's a guy with a lot of talent and a lot of experience.''
Rustoleum
Footballguy
Rudi Johnson hasn't broken a leg-tackle in three seasons. I doubt he is going to start doing that with any regularity anytime soon, no matter how much time he spends in the weightroom.
It certainly didn't help him that Bratkowski kept calling plays requiring him to get around the end, because he isn't fast enough to do that, even with healthy hammies.
It could just be a Bengal thing:
Maybe a change of scenery with help him, much like Corey Dillon suddenly reversed his two season-long trend of turning around backwards at the line of scrimmage and trying to back through the pile for a couple of yards rather than hitting the hole.
Of the high profile Bengal cuts this year, Deltha O'Neal is the most likely to rejuvenate his career. It's been two years since he's actually attempted to play football though....
It certainly didn't help him that Bratkowski kept calling plays requiring him to get around the end, because he isn't fast enough to do that, even with healthy hammies.
It could just be a Bengal thing:
Maybe a change of scenery with help him, much like Corey Dillon suddenly reversed his two season-long trend of turning around backwards at the line of scrimmage and trying to back through the pile for a couple of yards rather than hitting the hole.
Of the high profile Bengal cuts this year, Deltha O'Neal is the most likely to rejuvenate his career. It's been two years since he's actually attempted to play football though....
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EBF
Footballguy
If you're in a deep redraft league and you have the empty space to add him then sure, he's worth a pickup. I just think the writing is on the wall here. Rudi is entering the "Joe Horn in Atlanta" or "Eric Moulds in Houston" phase of his career.
prefontaine
Footballguy
Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
I don't like this at all as a Smith owner. I was looking forward to no competition from the 2nd string RB, now it could be RBBC.
Exactly. He's a better backup option than Tatum Bell, but that's not saying much.
MCguidance
Footballguy
This is a concern for Kevin Smith owners, how could it not be? I am a Smith owner and this just made me a bit more realistic in my predictions for the year, a level I probably should have been at anyway. I don't see Rudi pushing Smith out, that would be a ridiculous proposition/idea. However, it's not as if Rudi won't get some carries if healthy, he was a quality back in this league. It really (in my mind) comes down to his legs and attitude. If he is the Rudi circa 2005, it's more worrisome for the Smith owners. Then again, if he was that guy, why would the Bengals let him go? Are they that confident in Perry, a guy who has also been unable to stay on the field? We need to step back and realize a lot of things go into making moves in the NFL, money, salary cap moves, confidence in your team, attitude, depth at the position, etc. This is a murky situation, but I wouldn't hit the panic button yet, I know I'm not. If you were counting on Smith as a workhorse RB you probably were not valuing him correctly to being with. My two cents.
MC
MC
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remote controller
Footballguy
I am happy with the news. When I left to dallas this weekend, Rudi was being cut. When I got home today, he had a new gig in Detroit. That is better than the place SA is right now. I spent a 7th round pick on him and he MIGHT now pan out.
Tenacious
Footballguy
That'd be me. So can we assume that Rudi will take over the starting role soon?
