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Jack Del Rio has been fired as the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, according to team sources.
The Jaguars, who are 3-8 heading into a Monday night game with the San Diego Chargers, plan to announce the move at noon Tuesday.
Del Rio was the second head coach in the team's short history, replacing Tom Coughlin in 2003. He finishes his Jacksonville career with a 68-70 record, last leading the Jaguars to a winning record in 2007 when the team was 11-5. His teams were 1-2 in postseason play.
Defensive coordinator Mel Tucker is the leading candidate to take over the team on an interim basis.
Jaguars owner Wayne Weaver retained Del Rio after last season when Jacksonville finished 8-8, but made it clear that the coach needed to make the postseason in 2011 to keep his job.
"If we're not in the playoffs, it's pretty apparent we'll have a different coach," Weaver said in January.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7293624/jacksonville-jaguars-fire-longtime-coach-jack-del-rio-sources-say?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Mr. Brownstone
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Good.
Hairy Snowman
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I couldn't understand how he lasted so long to begin with. They took a step backward with him.
It will be interesting if Andy Reid becomes available...I think this is a perfect team for what he brings to the table.
It will be interesting if Andy Reid becomes available...I think this is a perfect team for what he brings to the table.
Wadsworth
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I agree, Reid would be a very good fit.
meanjoegreen
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Same here.
If I were the Eagles and plan on firing Reid, I would make sure I wait to fire him after the Giants fire and replace Coughlin (if they choose to do so). I am not sure that Jax would be that attractive to Reid. The RB situation is just up his alley, but the wr corps are bare (like the Pinkston/Fred Ex days) and he is going to have to deal with Gabbert (although he may A.J. Feeley a serviceable QB, so who knows). The one thing Weaver gives his HCs is time (two in franchise history), so the pressure will not be there to make things happen in year 1 or 2.
I would guess most play some form of PPR. In my straight PPR, McCoy is ranked #1. In my .5 PPR, he is #2 overall for RBs. In my .25 PPR, he is #2 overall also. I think it is clear that he is getting his points regardless of catches...MJD would be $$$ in a Reid offense.
Yeah- highly doubt it happens, but MJD owners should be begging for Reid to end up with the Jags.
He's been extended for some reason, per Mort on Twittermortreport Chris Mortensen'Warpig said:
Horrible offensive coach. Decent defensive coach.
Now they need to get rid of Gene Smith and all will be good.
Also, Jaguars have extended contract of GM Gene Smith for another 3 years.
unckeyherb
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McCoy and before him Westbrook were both top five RB's for many, many years.
Wadsworth
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The reason is that he is good at his job.He's been extended for some reason, per Mort on Twittermortreport Chris Mortensen'Warpig said:
Horrible offensive coach. Decent defensive coach.
Now they need to get rid of Gene Smith and all will be good.
Also, Jaguars have extended contract of GM Gene Smith for another 3 years.
BigSteelThrill
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McCoy is the #1 RB in my NON-PPR league right now. Though without Freddie Jacksons injury he would have been close to he #2 spot.
Warpig
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Say what?The reason is that he is good at his job.He's been extended for some reason, per Mort on Twittermortreport Chris Mortensen'Warpig said:
Horrible offensive coach. Decent defensive coach.
Now they need to get rid of Gene Smith and all will be good.
Also, Jaguars have extended contract of GM Gene Smith for another 3 years.
Yeah, he's right up there with Scott Pioli...overrated geniuses 
Here is the Jacksonville draft history from their existence. Gene Smith took over as GM in 2009 but was a scout and director of personnel since 1994.Now, look at those draft classes and explain to me in crayon how he is "good at his job".
Worst WR corps in the NFL. Worst QB in the NFL. Blaine Gabbert may get a little better, but he is far from an NFL QB. Crappy O-line, Crappy secondary. They overpaid for two injury prone LB's in Pozslusny and Session. He builds the team with his decisions and I don't see very many smart decisions being made on his part. The defense overachieved due to JDR's influence. JDR is a solid d-coordinator and I wouldn't have been opposed to him staying on in that capacity.
I can still hope that the new owner cuts Gene Smith loose and we find someone that can find talent.
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PlasmaDogPlasma
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PlasmaDogPlasma
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Wadsworth is the guy that said they would be as good or better with Luke McNown/Gabbert instead of Garrard and hyped the great vertical passing game they were going to have with McNown at the helm.Say what?The reason is that he is good at his job.He's been extended for some reason, per Mort on Twittermortreport Chris Mortensen'Warpig said:
Horrible offensive coach. Decent defensive coach.
Now they need to get rid of Gene Smith and all will be good.
Also, Jaguars have extended contract of GM Gene Smith for another 3 years.
Now, look at those draft classes and explain to me in crayon how he is "good at his job".
Worst WR corps in the NFL. Worst QB in the NFL. Blaine Gabbert may get a little better, but he is far from an NFL QB. Crappy O-line, Crappy secondary. They overpaid for two injury prone LB's in Pozslusny and Session. He builds the team with his decisions and I don't see very many smart decisions being made on his part. The defense overachieved due to JDR's influence. JDR is a solid d-coordinator and I wouldn't have been opposed to him staying on in that capacity.
I can still hope that the new owner cuts Gene Smith loose and we find someone that can find talent.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Probably something to do with the sale of the team.
Mr. Brownstone
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As opposed to what they've done thus far?
probably to hype up the espn game monday night. seriously. why else would anyone watch that crap other than fantasy. now they get to see the new coach in action.
Shake things up. They have 9800 tix still remaining for their primetime game, besides, if im weaver, and im going to sell, I am gonna use my authority before its gone.
New owner also wanted a clean slate, but it does not explain the smith extension. That may be to have an existing presence guide the new owner through the rebuild.
New owner also wanted a clean slate, but it does not explain the smith extension. That may be to have an existing presence guide the new owner through the rebuild.
Wadsworth
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You try and make two points that contradict each other. On the one hand you say Gene Smith made poor moves on the defensive side of the ball and then you laud JDR's influence on the defense. This year JDR was told to leave Mel Tucker and the defense alone. This was the first year JDR had no say in the defensive play calling or personnel and the defense went from 28th to 4th. So I can't see how both your statements can be true. Either Gene Smith's moves had a lot to do with the huge improvement to the defense or JDR not being involved is the reason the Jags went from 28th to 4th. There is really no way both your statements can be true.JDR gets a lot of credit for the success the Jags have had on defense in some circles but the reality is that the Jags had some very good defenses when Mike Smith was the DC. When Smith left for Atlanta the defense regressed greatly until Mel Tucker was given full control of the defense this season. It might be a coincidence, as fans we rarely get the full story. But for some reason the Jaguars decided to take the defensive controls away from Del Rio and that same season the Jaguars improved 24th places in team defense.Say what?The reason is that he is good at his job.He's been extended for some reason, per Mort on Twittermortreport Chris Mortensen'Warpig said:
Horrible offensive coach. Decent defensive coach.
Now they need to get rid of Gene Smith and all will be good.
Also, Jaguars have extended contract of GM Gene Smith for another 3 years.
Now, look at those draft classes and explain to me in crayon how he is "good at his job".
Worst WR corps in the NFL. Worst QB in the NFL. Blaine Gabbert may get a little better, but he is far from an NFL QB. Crappy O-line, Crappy secondary. They overpaid for two injury prone LB's in Pozslusny and Session. He builds the team with his decisions and I don't see very many smart decisions being made on his part. The defense overachieved due to JDR's influence. JDR is a solid d-coordinator and I wouldn't have been opposed to him staying on in that capacity.
I can still hope that the new owner cuts Gene Smith loose and we find someone that can find talent.
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Wadsworth
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And I was right. Both Luke and Blaine have been way better at the vertical game this year than David would have been while on IR.Wadsworth is the guy that said they would be as good or better with Luke McNown/Gabbert instead of Garrard and hyped the great vertical passing game they were going to have with McNown at the helm.Say what?The reason is that he is good at his job.He's been extended for some reason, per Mort on Twittermortreport Chris Mortensen'Warpig said:
Horrible offensive coach. Decent defensive coach.
Now they need to get rid of Gene Smith and all will be good.
Also, Jaguars have extended contract of GM Gene Smith for another 3 years.
Now, look at those draft classes and explain to me in crayon how he is "good at his job".
Worst WR corps in the NFL. Worst QB in the NFL. Blaine Gabbert may get a little better, but he is far from an NFL QB. Crappy O-line, Crappy secondary. They overpaid for two injury prone LB's in Pozslusny and Session. He builds the team with his decisions and I don't see very many smart decisions being made on his part. The defense overachieved due to JDR's influence. JDR is a solid d-coordinator and I wouldn't have been opposed to him staying on in that capacity.
I can still hope that the new owner cuts Gene Smith loose and we find someone that can find talent.
Warpig
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I agree that Mike Smith had a lot of influence when we had good defenses. But I just can't wrap my head around JDR not being allowed to have any say in the defense since he was a defensive coach to begin with. Just doesn't seem to make sense.I'm willing to give Mel Tucker a chance to see what he has. But Gene Smith is still worthless and should go as well. Yes, JDR needed to go but I'm hoping he won't be the token fire. Hopefully Khan realizes that Gene is clueless and boots him to the curb eventually too.'Wadsworth said:You try and make two points that contradict each other. On the one hand you say Gene Smith made poor moves on the defensive side of the ball and then you laud JDR's influence on the defense. This year JDR was told to leave Mel Tucker and the defense alone. This was the first year JDR had no say in the defensive play calling or personnel and the defense went from 28th to 4th. So I can't see how both your statements can be true. Either Gene Smith's moves had a lot to do with the huge improvement to the defense or JDR not being involved is the reason the Jags went from 28th to 4th. There is really no way both your statements can be true.JDR gets a lot of credit for the success the Jags have had on defense in some circles but the reality is that the Jags had some very good defenses when Mike Smith was the DC. When Smith left for Atlanta the defense regressed greatly until Mel Tucker was given full control of the defense this season. It might be a coincidence, as fans we rarely get the full story. But for some reason the Jaguars decided to take the defensive controls away from Del Rio and that same season the Jaguars improved 24th places in team defense.Say what?The reason is that he is good at his job.He's been extended for some reason, per Mort on Twittermortreport Chris Mortensen'Warpig said:
Horrible offensive coach. Decent defensive coach.
Now they need to get rid of Gene Smith and all will be good.
Also, Jaguars have extended contract of GM Gene Smith for another 3 years.
Now, look at those draft classes and explain to me in crayon how he is "good at his job".
Worst WR corps in the NFL. Worst QB in the NFL. Blaine Gabbert may get a little better, but he is far from an NFL QB. Crappy O-line, Crappy secondary. They overpaid for two injury prone LB's in Pozslusny and Session. He builds the team with his decisions and I don't see very many smart decisions being made on his part. The defense overachieved due to JDR's influence. JDR is a solid d-coordinator and I wouldn't have been opposed to him staying on in that capacity.
I can still hope that the new owner cuts Gene Smith loose and we find someone that can find talent.
They need to bring Coughlin back. Build the team via the O-line and D-line like they did in the mid 90's. Get rid of Gabbert. He sucks and always will...he's not a football player. And nail the 2012 draft! Oops! That won't happen as long as Gene Smith is still making the personnel decisions.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Fred Taylor had some things to say as well:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/12/former-jaguars-rb-fred-taylor-on-jack-del-rio-hes-not-a-head-coach/1
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LargeMouthBass
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Jimmy Smith retiring at 36 isn't that early.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
True, but he retired before his skills were gone. He went for 70-1,023 his last year.More to the point, there don't seem to be any players showing support and a lot taking shots including at least 2 of the Jaguars 3 greatest players.
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LargeMouthBass
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You might have a point there but 2 of the Jaguars 3 greatest players doesn't really mean that much. How long have they been in the league? Regardless, not a good thing when veteran players have bad things to say about their former coach.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
Jimmy Smith was 26 when he caught his first TD pass. So while 36 isn't early, he only had a 10 year career. I think that is more what he was thinking.
Wadsworth
Footballguy
I would say Tony Boselli is third of the Jaguars top 3 and he and Jack don't get along. Tony is a lot more... political? so I don't expect similar comments from him. But he has made it clear in the past.
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