Jahved Best's NFL outlook (1 Viewer)

[gobrowns33]

I know the guy is pretty small, but how much of a chance does he have to be a top-ten type RB in the NFL? I think he is an amazing "college" RB and would love to land him next year in our dynasty RC draft. As of now, how high do you think he will go in a rc draft? Is his size going to limit his upside or does he have Chris johnson like potential? My opinion is he could be as successful as Chris johnson and he will be going in the top half of the first RD in 2010 rc drafts (probably in the 4-8 range). Just looking for others thoughts!

 

[Sinrman]

Best is a decent prospect. Fantasy-wise, he'll be taken #1-#3, barring injury of course. In the NFL, it's hard to say. It all depends on what teams have what picks and what their needs are.

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

The next Priest Holmes. He's a Stud.

 

[dparker713]

He's not that small. He's listed at 5' 10" and 195. So he'll probably measure at 5' 9" and 200 by the combine, which may not fit everyone's ideal but is perfectly fine.

This is my first time seeing him today, but he's already shown good burst and speed on that nice cutback run for the long TD.

 

[RebelINS]

I like his vision a lot. He's a talented RB, could end up a decent fantasy RB if he can continue his nose towards the end zone.

 

[basher]

just watching him against the MN Gophers ... the kid has speed, wiggle, and hands .... he might be perfect for the two runningback scenarios that are all the rage in the NFL atm.

 

[Balco]

He's not that small. He's listed at 5' 10" and 195. So he'll probably measure at 5' 9" and 200 by the combine, which may not fit everyone's ideal but is perfectly fine. This is my first time seeing him today, but he's already shown good burst and speed on that nice cutback run for the long TD.

Just looking at him, he is very, very skinny. I wouldn't be surprised if he is 5'9 180-185.

 

[EBF]

He's a great talent, but he's very small and he has had some trouble staying healthy. I definitely think he'll be a situational player at the next level. Somewhere in between Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson. Lots of catches. Limited rushing yards and goal line TDs.

 

[dparker713]

He's not that small. He's listed at 5' 10" and 195. So he'll probably measure at 5' 9" and 200 by the combine, which may not fit everyone's ideal but is perfectly fine. This is my first time seeing him today, but he's already shown good burst and speed on that nice cutback run for the long TD.

Just looking at him, he is very, very skinny. I wouldn't be surprised if he is 5'9 180-185.

I dont doubt he's lighter than listed, though I think he'll add weight this offseason in preparation for the draft.

 

[JohnnyU]

He's a great talent, but he's very small and he has had some trouble staying healthy. I definitely think he'll be a situational player at the next level. Somewhere in between Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson. Lots of catches. Limited rushing yards and goal line TDs.

Here we go again. This affliction you have with size is getting old.

 

[EBF]

He's a great talent, but he's very small and he has had some trouble staying healthy. I definitely think he'll be a situational player at the next level. Somewhere in between Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson. Lots of catches. Limited rushing yards and goal line TDs.

Here we go again. This affliction you have with size is getting old.

There's a reason for it. Guys who are built like Best don't carry the load at the next level. It doesn't mean he can't be a valuable player in FF leagues, but don't expect an every down back.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

He's a great talent, but he's very small and he has had some trouble staying healthy. I definitely think he'll be a situational player at the next level. Somewhere in between Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson. Lots of catches. Limited rushing yards and goal line TDs.

Here we go again. This affliction you have with size is getting old.

There's a reason for it. Guys who are built like Best don't carry the load at the next level. It doesn't mean he can't be a valuable player in FF leagues, but don't expect an every down back.

Why is this even controversial? Warrick Dunn never had a season where he scored 16ppg (PPR) despite being a ridiculously talented player. Compare that to bigger players who were also elite (LT, Fred Taylor, Edge, etc).

 

[jbz]

Best does have an injury history in college. His speed is silly though. Michael Bennett maybe? I think he's got more shakes though. I like that Fresno kid (Matthews) as a better pro RB prospect.

 

[Balco]

He's a great talent, but he's very small and he has had some trouble staying healthy. I definitely think he'll be a situational player at the next level. Somewhere in between Reggie Bush and Chris Johnson. Lots of catches. Limited rushing yards and goal line TDs.

Here we go again. This affliction you have with size is getting old.

Best is very slight.

 

[EBF]

Here are the heights/weights for all prominent NFL RBs per NFL.com:

Brandon Jacobs 6'4" 264

Jamal Lewis 5'11 245

Michael Turner 5'10" 244

Steven Jackson 6'2" 236

Jonathan Stewart 5'10" 235

Ronnie Brown 6'0" 230

Ricky Williams 5'10" 230

Larry Johnson 6'1" 230

Fred Taylor 6'1" 228

Derrick Ward 5'11" 228

Beanie Wells 6'1" 228

Cedric Benson 5'10" 225

Mike Bell 6'0" 225

Marion Barber 6'0" 222

Ryan Grant 6'1" 222

Tim Hightower 6'0" 222

LaDainian Tomlinson 5'10" 221

Clinton Portis 5'11" 221

Laurence Maroney 5'11" 220

Matt Forte 6'2" 218

Felix Jones 6'0" 218

Kevin Smith 6'1" 217

Adrian Peterson 6'1" 217

DeAngelo Williams 5'9" 217

Cadillac Williams 5'11" 217

Frank Gore 5'9" 217

Fred Jackson 6'1" 215

Marshawn Lynch 5'11" 215

Steve Slaton 5'9" 215

Pierre Thomas 5'11" 215

Joseph Addai 5'11" 214

Chester Taylor 5'11" 213

Thomas Jones 5'10" 212

Ray Rice 5'8" 210

Knowshon Moreno 5'11" 210

Darren McFadden 6'2" 210

Willie Parker 5'10" 209

Mewelde Moore 5'11" 209

Maurice Jones-Drew 5'7" 208

Julius Jones 5'10" 208

Brian Westbrook 5'10" 203

Reggie Bush 6'0" 203

Kevin Faulk 5'8" 202

Chris Johnson 5'11" 200

Leon Washington 5'8" 195

There's a pretty clear trend here. The heavier guys tend to be inferior receivers and superior power runners. The smaller guys tend to be superior receivers and inferior power runners. I would say someone like Jahvid Best is much more comparable to Reggie Bush, Chris Johnson, and Leon Washington than he is to LaDainian Tomlinson, Clinton Portis, or Adrian Peterson. He's going to be a dynamic threat who makes big plays with his speed and quickness, but he'll likely be paired with a thumper who handles most of the power running and goal line carries.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

To follow up on EBFs last post... this is as far as I've gotten trying to create some sort of measure of "true size" for NFL RBs. We can't know for sure where Best is on this list, but using the best estimates available currently you can see why his size might be a concern if his weight is 190 as Balco suggests. He'd be "smaller" than Darren Sproles:

Michael Turner 124

Jamal Lewis 121

Travis Henry 115

Rudi Johnson 113

Jonathan Stewart 110

LaMont Jordan 108

Chris Wells 107

Ronnie Brown 107

Rashard Mendenhall 107

Kevan Barlow 106

Steven Jackson 106

Cedric Benson 105

Musa Smith 105

Shonn Greene 105

Deuce McAllister 104

Fred Taylor 104

Marion Barber 103

Domanick Williams 103

Brandon Jackson 103

Maurice Jones-Drew 102

LaDainian Tomlinson 102

Larry Johnson 102

Shaun Alexander 101

Frank Gore 101

Kevin Jones 101

Clinton Portis 101

Steve Slaton 100

Andre Brown 99

DeAngelo Williams 99

Reuben Droughns 99

J.J. Arrington 98

Ryan Moats 98

Thomas Jones 98

Lamar Gordon 98

Carnell Williams 97

Ahman Green 96

Felix Jones 95

Marshawn Lynch 95

Donald Brown 93

Joseph Addai 93

Adrian Peterson 93

Edgerrin James 92

Michael Bennett 92

Ray Rice 91

Brian Westbrook 91

Knowshon Moreno 91

Matt Forte 90

Jamaal Charles 88

Reggie Bush 85

Darren McFadden 84

Chris Johnson 82

Jahvid Best (195) 81

Darren Sproles 78

Jahvid Best (190) 76

 

[dparker713]

To follow up on EBFs last post... this is as far as I've gotten trying to create some sort of measure of "true size" for NFL RBs. We can't know for sure where Best is on this list, but using the best estimates available currently you can see why his size might be a concern if his weight is 190 as Balco suggests. He'd be "smaller" than Darren Sproles:

First, he's listed at 195, not 190. And without a methodology, this might as well be you putting random numbers next to player names.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

To follow up on EBFs last post... this is as far as I've gotten trying to create some sort of measure of "true size" for NFL RBs. We can't know for sure where Best is on this list, but using the best estimates available currently you can see why his size might be a concern if his weight is 190 as Balco suggests. He'd be "smaller" than Darren Sproles:

First, he's listed at 195, not 190. And without a methodology, this might as well be you putting random numbers next to player names.

Fair enough. If the order doesn't make any sense or feel right to you, you can consider them random numbers.And I went back and put Best in at 195 and 190.

 

[Steed]

He's not that small. He's listed at 5' 10" and 195. So he'll probably measure at 5' 9" and 200 by the combine, which may not fit everyone's ideal but is perfectly fine. This is my first time seeing him today, but he's already shown good burst and speed on that nice cutback run for the long TD.

Just looking at him, he is very, very skinny. I wouldn't be surprised if he is 5'9 180-185.

I dont doubt he's lighter than listed, though I think he'll add weight this offseason in preparation for the draft.

Why would he do that when the crux of the Combine process is running a fast 40?

 

[tdmills]

While he just scored, Best didn't look as explosive. He also has a brace or some kind of wrap on his left knee. Didn't see that earlier in the game.

 

[dparker713]

He's not that small. He's listed at 5' 10" and 195. So he'll probably measure at 5' 9" and 200 by the combine, which may not fit everyone's ideal but is perfectly fine. This is my first time seeing him today, but he's already shown good burst and speed on that nice cutback run for the long TD.

Just looking at him, he is very, very skinny. I wouldn't be surprised if he is 5'9 180-185.

I dont doubt he's lighter than listed, though I think he'll add weight this offseason in preparation for the draft.

Why would he do that when the crux of the Combine process is running a fast 40?

Because there will be questions about his size predraft, so his agent will make sure he does everything he can to address that through bulking up some.

 

[Blackjacks]

I don't think he will be very good at the next level. I don't think Best is as good as Arrington or Lynch were at Cal and those 2 haven't lit it up in the pros.

I would avoid him in all rookie drafts next year unless he goes to a GREAT situation

 

[dparker713]

To follow up on EBFs last post... this is as far as I've gotten trying to create some sort of measure of "true size" for NFL RBs. We can't know for sure where Best is on this list, but using the best estimates available currently you can see why his size might be a concern if his weight is 190 as Balco suggests. He'd be "smaller" than Darren Sproles:

First, he's listed at 195, not 190. And without a methodology, this might as well be you putting random numbers next to player names.

Fair enough. If the order doesn't make any sense or feel right to you, you can consider them random numbers.And I went back and put Best in at 195 and 190.

Doesnt matter if the output makes sense to me, the question is does your methodology make sense. You've presented a list that looks to be normalized to 100, yet the output is a select group of RBs and you've not explained how height and weight are used to output a single number that is then normalized. So yeah, unless I can see the guts of your methodology, its all voodoo.

 

[identikit]

To follow up on EBFs last post... this is as far as I've gotten trying to create some sort of measure of "true size" for NFL RBs. We can't know for sure where Best is on this list, but using the best estimates available currently you can see why his size might be a concern if his weight is 190 as Balco suggests. He'd be "smaller" than Darren Sproles:

First, he's listed at 195, not 190. And without a methodology, this might as well be you putting random numbers next to player names.

Fair enough. If the order doesn't make any sense or feel right to you, you can consider them random numbers.And I went back and put Best in at 195 and 190.

Doesnt matter if the output makes sense to me, the question is does your methodology make sense. You've presented a list that looks to be normalized to 100, yet the output is a select group of RBs and you've not explained how height and weight are used to output a single number that is then normalized. So yeah, unless I can see the guts of your methodology, its all voodoo.

Not just voodoo. Secret voodoo.

 

[az_prof]

He's not that small. He's listed at 5' 10" and 195. So he'll probably measure at 5' 9" and 200 by the combine, which may not fit everyone's ideal but is perfectly fine. This is my first time seeing him today, but he's already shown good burst and speed on that nice cutback run for the long TD.

Is there a reason why you think he is bigger than listed? Don't team usually INFLATE a guy's listed size rather than deflate it?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Not just voodoo. Secret voodoo.

Exactly. No one needs to know the details about the chicken blood and goat entrails.But all you really need to do is go here, type wdcrob into the box, hit the button and all your problems will be solved.

 

[identikit]

Not just voodoo. Secret voodoo.

Exactly. No one needs to know the details about the chicken blood and goat entrails.But all you really need to do is go here, type wdcrob into the box, hit the button and all your problems will be solved.

Actually, I prefer some comic relief.A magic formula? Really?

 

[Multiple Scores]

To follow up on EBFs last post... this is as far as I've gotten trying to create some sort of measure of "true size" for NFL RBs. We can't know for sure where Best is on this list, but using the best estimates available currently you can see why his size might be a concern if his weight is 190 as Balco suggests. He'd be "smaller" than Darren Sproles:

First, he's listed at 195, not 190. And without a methodology, this might as well be you putting random numbers next to player names.

Fair enough. If the order doesn't make any sense or feel right to you, you can consider them random numbers.And I went back and put Best in at 195 and 190.

Doesnt matter if the output makes sense to me, the question is does your methodology make sense. You've presented a list that looks to be normalized to 100, yet the output is a select group of RBs and you've not explained how height and weight are used to output a single number that is then normalized. So yeah, unless I can see the guts of your methodology, its all voodoo.

What would you say if I were to say he looked good against the Pac 10, but he didn't look good against Florida, Oklahoma and Texas? What would you say to that???

 

[dparker713]

To follow up on EBFs last post... this is as far as I've gotten trying to create some sort of measure of "true size" for NFL RBs. We can't know for sure where Best is on this list, but using the best estimates available currently you can see why his size might be a concern if his weight is 190 as Balco suggests. He'd be "smaller" than Darren Sproles:

First, he's listed at 195, not 190. And without a methodology, this might as well be you putting random numbers next to player names.

Fair enough. If the order doesn't make any sense or feel right to you, you can consider them random numbers.And I went back and put Best in at 195 and 190.

Doesnt matter if the output makes sense to me, the question is does your methodology make sense. You've presented a list that looks to be normalized to 100, yet the output is a select group of RBs and you've not explained how height and weight are used to output a single number that is then normalized. So yeah, unless I can see the guts of your methodology, its all voodoo.

What would you say if I were to say he looked good against the Pac 10, but he didn't look good against Florida, Oklahoma and Texas? What would you say to that???

Fail to see how his unwillingness to post a methodology is at all relevant to that reply. And he's never played those three teams.

 

[TheFanatic]

He's not that small. He's listed at 5' 10" and 195. So he'll probably measure at 5' 9" and 200 by the combine, which may not fit everyone's ideal but is perfectly fine. This is my first time seeing him today, but he's already shown good burst and speed on that nice cutback run for the long TD.

That's not big. That's me. And I'm not big...

 

[kremenull]

I don't think he will be very good at the next level. I don't think Best is as good as Arrington or Lynch were at Cal and those 2 haven't lit it up in the pros.

I would avoid him in all rookie drafts next year unless he goes to a GREAT situation

Huh???........Were you high or intoxicated when you posted this statement?Best is miles ahead of those guys in just about every facet. Just check out his ypc (currently and also last year) as well as the 5-TD performance (a school record) vs a Big Ten school on the road.

It is simply unbelievable how guys continue to downplay what this kid is doing on a major college level yet somehow the Chris Johnsons and Kevin Smiths of the world were so great when they played against the likes of SMU and SW Texas (who cares if they really didn't play these two, their level of competition sucked in college)......

Best will be a star in the NFL, every bit as good as Chris Johnson.....if not even better as he is easily a better receiver than him already and just as explosive a runner. And the guy who believes that Best is not explosive, you're apparently fooled by TV angles, this kid is lightning quick on the field and ultra-explosive. This kid is outrunning guys to the corner who have great angles on him, do you not understand what you are witnessing? Also, check out his highlight reel from last season if you really haven't watched him play.......8.1 ypc on 190+ carries last year is RIDICULOUS!

That lateral move that he put on the Miami DB in this video is one of the best moves you or I will ever see. A full speed lateral cut and immediate acceleration afterwards. Only Barry Sanders and Gale Sayers have done it as well as that. I can't believe how many of you guys are asleep on this kid. Barry, Thurman, Westbrook, Chris Johnson, and Best, all have shown (or will show) you that it isn't the size of the player that really matters, it's the "size of player" you are.......and he is x-large, in that respect. I believe with hard work he can be a full-time RB in the NFL, and from what I've read and observed from the kid, he does work very hard.

If he has a good game vs USC and they win that game as well as the Pac-10 crown, he should win the Heisman

 

[TheWheel]

Guess what guys? You can gain weight you know. How many of those awesome RBs were the weight they are now in college?

Best could add 10 pounds and still be effective and not even lose a step.

 

[EBF]

Just watch the games. He doesn't have the power to break tackles or push the pile. That's not going to change in the NFL where everyone else is bigger, stronger, and faster. Best will be used as a speed back and pass catcher similar to how Reggie Bush is used (but he'll probably be more effective rushing the ball).

I see him as a guy who will handle 150-225 carries with 40-60 catches and return duties. A hybrid of Warrick Dunn, Leon Washington, Chris Johnson, and Reggie Bush.

 

[Brutis]

I'll take Mcnight from USC every day of the week over Jahvid.

 

[Blackjacks]

I'll take Mcnight from USC every day of the week over Jahvid.

Absolutely!!!!!!!

 

[Blackjacks]

I don't think he will be very good at the next level. I don't think Best is as good as Arrington or Lynch were at Cal and those 2 haven't lit it up in the pros.

I would avoid him in all rookie drafts next year unless he goes to a GREAT situation

Huh???........Were you high or intoxicated when you posted this statement?Best is miles ahead of those guys in just about every facet. Just check out his ypc (currently and also last year) as well as the 5-TD performance (a school record) vs a Big Ten school on the road.

It is simply unbelievable how guys continue to downplay what this kid is doing on a major college level yet somehow the Chris Johnsons and Kevin Smiths of the world were so great when they played against the likes of SMU and SW Texas (who cares if they really didn't play these two, their level of competition sucked in college)......

Best will be a star in the NFL, every bit as good as Chris Johnson.....if not even better as he is easily a better receiver than him already and just as explosive a runner. And the guy who believes that Best is not explosive, you're apparently fooled by TV angles, this kid is lightning quick on the field and ultra-explosive. This kid is outrunning guys to the corner who have great angles on him, do you not understand what you are witnessing? Also, check out his highlight reel from last season if you really haven't watched him play.......8.1 ypc on 190+ carries last year is RIDICULOUS!

A BIG TEN TEAM.........is that suppose to impress me?Minnesota is awful.

Cal has a nice offensive system going on there that works against weak inferior teams but when they play similiar talent they get crushed due to being soft.

I think Lynch was a much better prospect than Best is. He was bigger, caught the ball just as well and could move the pile and was almost as fast.

Think what you want but watch him against USC and judge his talent in that game alittle more than a bottom feeder in a overhyped conference.

I agree with the post aout Mcnight.......I would much rather have him

 

[Balco]

Just watch the games. He doesn't have the power to break tackles or push the pile. That's not going to change in the NFL where everyone else is bigger, stronger, and faster. Best will be used as a speed back and pass catcher similar to how Reggie Bush is used (but he'll probably be more effective rushing the ball).

I see him as a guy who will handle 150-225 carries with 40-60 catches and return duties. A hybrid of Warrick Dunn, Leon Washington, Chris Johnson, and Reggie Bush.

That is what I have been seeing while watching Cal games. Get him out in the open field . . . look out. But I think he is going to struggle as an inside runner in the pros. He does need to learn how to pass block if he wants to see the field at the next level. He can be an excellent role player in today's NFL, no question though, as a returner, pass catcher, and change of pace back.

 

[dparker713]

I'll take Mcnight from USC every day of the week over Jahvid.

Absolutely!!!!!!!

He needs to learn to hold onto the ball first.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Fail to see how his unwillingness to post a methodology is at all relevant to that reply. And he's never played those three teams.

How does the fact he never played them matter? You used this exact argument to trash Beanie Wells, why do facts matter?

 

[MCguidance]

Here are the heights/weights for all prominent NFL RBs per NFL.com:

Brandon Jacobs 6'4" 264

Jamal Lewis 5'11 245

Michael Turner 5'10" 244

Steven Jackson 6'2" 236

Jonathan Stewart 5'10" 235

Ronnie Brown 6'0" 230

Ricky Williams 5'10" 230

Larry Johnson 6'1" 230

Fred Taylor 6'1" 228

Derrick Ward 5'11" 228

Beanie Wells 6'1" 228

Cedric Benson 5'10" 225

Mike Bell 6'0" 225

Marion Barber 6'0" 222

Ryan Grant 6'1" 222

Tim Hightower 6'0" 222

LaDainian Tomlinson 5'10" 221

Clinton Portis 5'11" 221

Laurence Maroney 5'11" 220

Matt Forte 6'2" 218

Felix Jones 6'0" 218

Kevin Smith 6'1" 217

Adrian Peterson 6'1" 217

DeAngelo Williams 5'9" 217

Cadillac Williams 5'11" 217

Frank Gore 5'9" 217

Fred Jackson 6'1" 215

Marshawn Lynch 5'11" 215

Steve Slaton 5'9" 215

Pierre Thomas 5'11" 215

Joseph Addai 5'11" 214

Chester Taylor 5'11" 213

Thomas Jones 5'10" 212

Ray Rice 5'8" 210

Knowshon Moreno 5'11" 210

Darren McFadden 6'2" 210

Willie Parker 5'10" 209

Mewelde Moore 5'11" 209

Maurice Jones-Drew 5'7" 208

Julius Jones 5'10" 208

Brian Westbrook 5'10" 203

Reggie Bush 6'0" 203

Kevin Faulk 5'8" 202

Chris Johnson 5'11" 200

Leon Washington 5'8" 195

There's a pretty clear trend here. The heavier guys tend to be inferior receivers and superior power runners. The smaller guys tend to be superior receivers and inferior power runners. I would say someone like Jahvid Best is much more comparable to Reggie Bush, Chris Johnson, and Leon Washington than he is to LaDainian Tomlinson, Clinton Portis, or Adrian Peterson. He's going to be a dynamic threat who makes big plays with his speed and quickness, but he'll likely be paired with a thumper who handles most of the power running and goal line carries.

This is why I think Steven Jackson is a freaking beast - 235-240, runs with power, break away speed, and can catch with the best of them. Injury history aside, I think he is one of the best all around backs I've seen.

 

[dparker713]

Fail to see how his unwillingness to post a methodology is at all relevant to that reply. And he's never played those three teams.

How does the fact he never played them matter? You used this exact argument to trash Beanie Wells, why do facts matter?

This is both incorrect and pathetic. Are you Wells' agent?

 

[Multiple Scores]

Fail to see how his unwillingness to post a methodology is at all relevant to that reply. And he's never played those three teams.

How does the fact he never played them matter? You used this exact argument to trash Beanie Wells, why do facts matter?

This is both incorrect and pathetic. Are you Wells' agent?

Pathetic? Not sure if I were you'd i'd run around calling anyone pathetic when it comes to anything related to college football. Carry on

 

[FFdork]

Today was the first time I've really seen that much of him. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he sustained some kind of minor back injury during the game. After a certain point, he looked stiff when walking around between plays...thought I saw trainers checking in with him too (my apologies if this was just my imagination and/or not being familiar with his body language--just to be clear there was NO mention of him being hurt and he scored 2 or 3 more TDs after this observation, albeit against the Gophers lame D).

Also seemed to run pretty upright, which could be his style or could be related to my observation above. If it's his style, that's always a concern for NFL scouts.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'll take Mcnight from USC every day of the week over Jahvid.

Absolutely!!!!!!!

Not a chance in hell. I'm going to remind some folks again someday in the future.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Best is a late first round talent if he ups his game a bit, he is not the next AP or LT, let's keep this in perspective.

 

[az_prof]

I don't think he will be very good at the next level. I don't think Best is as good as Arrington or Lynch were at Cal and those 2 haven't lit it up in the pros.

I would avoid him in all rookie drafts next year unless he goes to a GREAT situation

Huh???........Were you high or intoxicated when you posted this statement?Best is miles ahead of those guys in just about every facet. Just check out his ypc (currently and also last year) as well as the 5-TD performance (a school record) vs a Big Ten school on the road.

It is simply unbelievable how guys continue to downplay what this kid is doing on a major college level yet somehow the Chris Johnsons and Kevin Smiths of the world were so great when they played against the likes of SMU and SW Texas (who cares if they really didn't play these two, their level of competition sucked in college)......

Best will be a star in the NFL, every bit as good as Chris Johnson.....if not even better as he is easily a better receiver than him already and just as explosive a runner. And the guy who believes that Best is not explosive, you're apparently fooled by TV angles, this kid is lightning quick on the field and ultra-explosive. This kid is outrunning guys to the corner who have great angles on him, do you not understand what you are witnessing? Also, check out his highlight reel from last season if you really haven't watched him play.......8.1 ypc on 190+ carries last year is RIDICULOUS!

Correction: MN has an awful defense. Their offense as we saw is pretty good.I wasn't that impressed by Best's speed either--for a guy who is supposed to be so great.

 

[az_prof]

Here are the heights/weights for all prominent NFL RBs per NFL.com:

Brandon Jacobs 6'4" 264

Jamal Lewis 5'11 245

Michael Turner 5'10" 244

Steven Jackson 6'2" 236

Jonathan Stewart 5'10" 235

Ronnie Brown 6'0" 230

Ricky Williams 5'10" 230

Larry Johnson 6'1" 230

Fred Taylor 6'1" 228

Derrick Ward 5'11" 228

Beanie Wells 6'1" 228

Cedric Benson 5'10" 225

Mike Bell 6'0" 225

Marion Barber 6'0" 222

Ryan Grant 6'1" 222

Tim Hightower 6'0" 222

LaDainian Tomlinson 5'10" 221

Clinton Portis 5'11" 221

Laurence Maroney 5'11" 220

Matt Forte 6'2" 218

Felix Jones 6'0" 218

Kevin Smith 6'1" 217

Adrian Peterson 6'1" 217

DeAngelo Williams 5'9" 217

Cadillac Williams 5'11" 217

Frank Gore 5'9" 217

Fred Jackson 6'1" 215

Marshawn Lynch 5'11" 215

Steve Slaton 5'9" 215

Pierre Thomas 5'11" 215

Joseph Addai 5'11" 214

Chester Taylor 5'11" 213

Thomas Jones 5'10" 212

Ray Rice 5'8" 210

Knowshon Moreno 5'11" 210

Darren McFadden 6'2" 210

Willie Parker 5'10" 209

Mewelde Moore 5'11" 209

Maurice Jones-Drew 5'7" 208

Julius Jones 5'10" 208

Brian Westbrook 5'10" 203

Reggie Bush 6'0" 203

Kevin Faulk 5'8" 202

Chris Johnson 5'11" 200

Leon Washington 5'8" 195

There's a pretty clear trend here. The heavier guys tend to be inferior receivers and superior power runners. The smaller guys tend to be superior receivers and inferior power runners. I would say someone like Jahvid Best is much more comparable to Reggie Bush, Chris Johnson, and Leon Washington than he is to LaDainian Tomlinson, Clinton Portis, or Adrian Peterson. He's going to be a dynamic threat who makes big plays with his speed and quickness, but he'll likely be paired with a thumper who handles most of the power running and goal line carries.

This is why I think Steven Jackson is a freaking beast - 235-240, runs with power, break away speed, and can catch with the best of them. Injury history aside, I think he is one of the best all around backs I've seen.

The same is true of Ronnie Brown--he is a great receiver out of the backfield as we saw a couple of years ago.

 

[thekidd2009]

I don't think best is all that good...I watched the entire game today and best looked like a gaping hole runner. He didn't look that impressive trying to make people miss and just looked like a straight speed guy to me. Just IMO.

 

[thekidd2009]

I don't think he will be very good at the next level. I don't think Best is as good as Arrington or Lynch were at Cal and those 2 haven't lit it up in the pros.

I would avoid him in all rookie drafts next year unless he goes to a GREAT situation

Huh???........Were you high or intoxicated when you posted this statement?Best is miles ahead of those guys in just about every facet. Just check out his ypc (currently and also last year) as well as the 5-TD performance (a school record) vs a Big Ten school on the road.

It is simply unbelievable how guys continue to downplay what this kid is doing on a major college level yet somehow the Chris Johnsons and Kevin Smiths of the world were so great when they played against the likes of SMU and SW Texas (who cares if they really didn't play these two, their level of competition sucked in college)......

Best will be a star in the NFL, every bit as good as Chris Johnson.....if not even better as he is easily a better receiver than him already and just as explosive a runner. And the guy who believes that Best is not explosive, you're apparently fooled by TV angles, this kid is lightning quick on the field and ultra-explosive. This kid is outrunning guys to the corner who have great angles on him, do you not understand what you are witnessing? Also, check out his highlight reel from last season if you really haven't watched him play.......8.1 ypc on 190+ carries last year is RIDICULOUS!

Your the same guy that's been hyping Terrelle Pryor as the greatest QB prospect EVER coming out, so i'll take your opinion with a grain of salt. I personally don't see him doing better than Reggie Bush at the next level.

 

[Cecil_Pooples]

I don't think he will be very good at the next level. I don't think Best is as good as Arrington or Lynch were at Cal and those 2 haven't lit it up in the pros.

I would avoid him in all rookie drafts next year unless he goes to a GREAT situation

Huh???........Were you high or intoxicated when you posted this statement?Best is miles ahead of those guys in just about every facet. Just check out his ypc (currently and also last year) as well as the 5-TD performance (a school record) vs a Big Ten school on the road.

It is simply unbelievable how guys continue to downplay what this kid is doing on a major college level yet somehow the Chris Johnsons and Kevin Smiths of the world were so great when they played against the likes of SMU and SW Texas (who cares if they really didn't play these two, their level of competition sucked in college)......

Best will be a star in the NFL, every bit as good as Chris Johnson.....if not even better as he is easily a better receiver than him already and just as explosive a runner. And the guy who believes that Best is not explosive, you're apparently fooled by TV angles, this kid is lightning quick on the field and ultra-explosive. This kid is outrunning guys to the corner who have great angles on him, do you not understand what you are witnessing? Also, check out his highlight reel from last season if you really haven't watched him play.......8.1 ypc on 190+ carries last year is RIDICULOUS!

And quite ironic he's asking someone else if they're intoxicated.