Jamaal Charles, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (2 Viewers)

[sharptongued1]

Now, the defense pretty much has to get better. They are getting a couple more guys back from injury soon and just have way too much talent on that side of the ball to be this terrible. However, if the defense gets better and the Chiefs aren't in catchup mode as much, Hillis still looks like he's going to have a big role. The OC was the guy that leaned on Hillis in Cleveland during his big year in '10. Seems like he really wants to lean on him again this year.

I believe the only starter on defense they were missing yesterday was Kendrick Lewis.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Any explainable reason for draugns o be getting more carries than charles? Wtf. Not even a charles ow ner' but just odd.

 

[chinawildman]

Any explainable reason for draugns o be getting more carries than charles? Wtf. Not even a charles ow ner' but just odd.

This is what's driving me nuts, what reason do they have to keep their best player off the field for basically an entire half? I understand Charles looked a little gimpy after getting tackled from behind, but no word so far. Do the KC press just not really care (understandably) about the chiefs?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

When he was in there just weren't any holes. Then it seemed like he was pulled due to the score. I think if this were last season, he stays in the game, but coming off an ACL injury with the score being what it was, the risk-reward wasn't there to keep him on the field.

I havent seen anything about soreness etc., and he looked great week 1.

I expect him to be a superb second half of the season guy.

 

[steelwind]

Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel revealed Monday that Jamaal Charles dealt with knee soreness in Sunday's loss, but that he's expected to be fine for Week 3.

It explains why Charles only touched the ball twice in the second half of Kansas City's blowout loss to the Bills. Although any injury for a player of Charles' caliber is disconcerting, occasional soreness is hardly a cause for alarm for a player coming off a torn ACL. Not everybody is Adrian Peterson. Charles has a mouthwatering Week 3 matchup with a Saints' run defense that's been by far the league's worst through the season's first two weeks.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

So, his injured knee is sore after getting only a couple of carries in each game? Not a good sign for Charles getting the sort of workload to make him fantasy relevant. Has to help Hillis.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Meanwhile, Hillis is fumbling away the workload that would make him fantasy relevant.

 

[Bobble Fett]

Maybe there will be more details later this week about exactly what kind of "soreness in the knee" Charles is dealing with.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I saw him on a stationary bike during the second half. Any news on this?

He's concerned about his waistline and was looking to burn off some extra points to have that chocolate smoothie after dinner.

I heard chocolate smoothies help with extremity soreness.

 

[therush]

When he was in there just weren't any holes. Then it seemed like he was pulled due to the score. I think if this were last season, he stays in the game, but coming off an ACL injury with the score being what it was, the risk-reward wasn't there to keep him on the field.I havent seen anything about soreness etc., and he looked great week 1.I expect him to be a superb second half of the season guy.

Chiefs have an amazing week 13-16 schedule.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Maybe there will be more details later this week about exactly what kind of "soreness in the knee" Charles is dealing with.

It was confirmed today by the coaching staff that the soreness is in the same knee that he blew out last year.

 

[shader]

Charles is in the same boat that Peterson is in, and Kenny Britt for that matter. These guys are still recovering from ACL injuries. The coaches aren't going to play them in meaningless situations. If the Vikings were getting blown out, you guys really think Peterson would be out there? As it is, Peterson has been getting a much lower workload than normal.

Same with Charles. If the game was tight, I bet he would have played.

It will take some time. Hopefully both will be back to full strength by mid-season. We will see.

 

[ponchsox]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

You know, maybe. But the Saints have enough talent to blow this game open in the first quarter, leaving KC to play catchup and relegating the second half to garbage time. If that happens, they probably will rest Charles again. And, honestly, the Saints putting a bunch of early points on the KC defense seems like a pretty likely scenario right now.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

You know, maybe. But the Saints have enough talent to blow this game open in the first quarter, leaving KC to play catchup and relegating the second half to garbage time. If that happens, they probably will rest Charles again. And, honestly, the Saints putting a bunch of early points on the KC defense seems like a pretty likely scenario right now.

I am worried about the same thing. We could see a part II of this whole situation. I think I am going to sit him for a less than stellar option this week.

 

[DevilintheDetail]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

You know, maybe. But the Saints have enough talent to blow this game open in the first quarter, leaving KC to play catchup and relegating the second half to garbage time. If that happens, they probably will rest Charles again. And, honestly, the Saints putting a bunch of early points on the KC defense seems like a pretty likely scenario right now.

I am worried about the same thing. We could see a part II of this whole situation. I think I am going to sit him for a less than stellar option this week.

I think if you step really far back and look at the rest of the Chiefs season, we might actually end up seeing very little of Charles this year. They are probably going to be 0-3 after next week. The team hasn't even been competitive so far. If the defense doesn't come together very quickly, the Chiefs could be out of playoff contention by week 7 or 8. Charles' knee is already acting up with a very light workload. Once the season is toast, why would you play your recovering franchise RB at all? I'd probably just sit him and let him heal up completely for next year. They don't have anything invested in Hillis (he's on a 1 year contract), so there's no harm in giving him a lot of meaningless carries.I don't own Charles, but if I did, I would be terrified of that scenario. And it seems reasonably likely to materialize.

 

[pwtrash]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

You know, maybe. But the Saints have enough talent to blow this game open in the first quarter, leaving KC to play catchup and relegating the second half to garbage time. If that happens, they probably will rest Charles again. And, honestly, the Saints putting a bunch of early points on the KC defense seems like a pretty likely scenario right now.

I am worried about the same thing. We could see a part II of this whole situation. I think I am going to sit him for a less than stellar option this week.

I think if you step really far back and look at the rest of the Chiefs season, we might actually end up seeing very little of Charles this year. They are probably going to be 0-3 after next week. The team hasn't even been competitive so far. If the defense doesn't come together very quickly, the Chiefs could be out of playoff contention by week 7 or 8. Charles' knee is already acting up with a very light workload. Once the season is toast, why would you play your recovering franchise RB at all? I'd probably just sit him and let him heal up completely for next year. They don't have anything invested in Hillis (he's on a 1 year contract), so there's no harm in giving him a lot of meaningless carries.I don't own Charles, but if I did, I would be terrified of that scenario. And it seems reasonably likely to materialize.

As a Charles owner, I was going to post my skepticism that there is an easy way out of this, but you articulated it better.Saints are coming into this game as a must-win and with a chip. I'm not worried about their run defense - it's their pass offense that worries me. If the Bills could go 21-0 in the first...

 

[sporthenry]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

You know, maybe. But the Saints have enough talent to blow this game open in the first quarter, leaving KC to play catchup and relegating the second half to garbage time. If that happens, they probably will rest Charles again. And, honestly, the Saints putting a bunch of early points on the KC defense seems like a pretty likely scenario right now.

I am worried about the same thing. We could see a part II of this whole situation. I think I am going to sit him for a less than stellar option this week.

I think if you step really far back and look at the rest of the Chiefs season, we might actually end up seeing very little of Charles this year. They are probably going to be 0-3 after next week. The team hasn't even been competitive so far. If the defense doesn't come together very quickly, the Chiefs could be out of playoff contention by week 7 or 8. Charles' knee is already acting up with a very light workload. Once the season is toast, why would you play your recovering franchise RB at all? I'd probably just sit him and let him heal up completely for next year. They don't have anything invested in Hillis (he's on a 1 year contract), so there's no harm in giving him a lot of meaningless carries.I don't own Charles, but if I did, I would be terrified of that scenario. And it seems reasonably likely to materialize.

I often thought like this but the NFL rarely thinks like this. It makes sense from a franchise standpoint to do this b/c he is your future value but you fail to take several things into account. One the current head coaches have to win now. They don't look to the future and Charles health years from now b/c they might not be there. So I guess the GM/owners could shut him down but that sends a terrible message to the fans/players that you are giving up. And additionally, Charles is exciting and might sell some tickets throughout the year. I've worried about this scenario many times but can you cite many times when this happened? Heck, if this was how things happened, Adrian Peterson would be shut down every year around Nov./Dec.

 

[packersfan]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

You know, maybe. But the Saints have enough talent to blow this game open in the first quarter, leaving KC to play catchup and relegating the second half to garbage time. If that happens, they probably will rest Charles again. And, honestly, the Saints putting a bunch of early points on the KC defense seems like a pretty likely scenario right now.

I am worried about the same thing. We could see a part II of this whole situation. I think I am going to sit him for a less than stellar option this week.

I think if you step really far back and look at the rest of the Chiefs season, we might actually end up seeing very little of Charles this year. They are probably going to be 0-3 after next week. The team hasn't even been competitive so far. If the defense doesn't come together very quickly, the Chiefs could be out of playoff contention by week 7 or 8. Charles' knee is already acting up with a very light workload. Once the season is toast, why would you play your recovering franchise RB at all? I'd probably just sit him and let him heal up completely for next year. They don't have anything invested in Hillis (he's on a 1 year contract), so there's no harm in giving him a lot of meaningless carries.I don't own Charles, but if I did, I would be terrified of that scenario. And it seems reasonably likely to materialize.

I often thought like this but the NFL rarely thinks like this. It makes sense from a franchise standpoint to do this b/c he is your future value but you fail to take several things into account. One the current head coaches have to win now. They don't look to the future and Charles health years from now b/c they might not be there. So I guess the GM/owners could shut him down but that sends a terrible message to the fans/players that you are giving up. And additionally, Charles is exciting and might sell some tickets throughout the year. I've worried about this scenario many times but can you cite many times when this happened? Heck, if this was how things happened, Adrian Peterson would be shut down every year around Nov./Dec.

Agreed. I think there's a 0% chance Charles gets shut down unless he's seriously injured. Maybe it happens in Week 16 or 17 but even then I think it will take a serious injury for Charles to be shut down. I don't think Charles owners or Chiefs' fans should worry about this scenario coming to fruition. It seems highly unrealistic.

 

[sporthenry]

Charles should run wild on the Saints next week

You know, maybe. But the Saints have enough talent to blow this game open in the first quarter, leaving KC to play catchup and relegating the second half to garbage time. If that happens, they probably will rest Charles again. And, honestly, the Saints putting a bunch of early points on the KC defense seems like a pretty likely scenario right now.

I am worried about the same thing. We could see a part II of this whole situation. I think I am going to sit him for a less than stellar option this week.

I think if you step really far back and look at the rest of the Chiefs season, we might actually end up seeing very little of Charles this year. They are probably going to be 0-3 after next week. The team hasn't even been competitive so far. If the defense doesn't come together very quickly, the Chiefs could be out of playoff contention by week 7 or 8. Charles' knee is already acting up with a very light workload. Once the season is toast, why would you play your recovering franchise RB at all? I'd probably just sit him and let him heal up completely for next year. They don't have anything invested in Hillis (he's on a 1 year contract), so there's no harm in giving him a lot of meaningless carries.I don't own Charles, but if I did, I would be terrified of that scenario. And it seems reasonably likely to materialize.

I often thought like this but the NFL rarely thinks like this. It makes sense from a franchise standpoint to do this b/c he is your future value but you fail to take several things into account. One the current head coaches have to win now. They don't look to the future and Charles health years from now b/c they might not be there. So I guess the GM/owners could shut him down but that sends a terrible message to the fans/players that you are giving up. And additionally, Charles is exciting and might sell some tickets throughout the year. I've worried about this scenario many times but can you cite many times when this happened? Heck, if this was how things happened, Adrian Peterson would be shut down every year around Nov./Dec.

Agreed. I think there's a 0% chance Charles gets shut down unless he's seriously injured. Maybe it happens in Week 16 or 17 but even then I think it will take a serious injury for Charles to be shut down. I don't think Charles owners or Chiefs' fans should worry about this scenario coming to fruition. It seems highly unrealistic.

Heck, it often seems it is the other way around. Injured RB getting worked into the rotation but by the end of the year, this team will want to see what they have on offense. They will want to see if J. Charles is the same Charles or do they have to sign/draft another RB. Also want to see what they have on the O-line, if Cassel can pass the ball with a true RB, etc. Heck, most of these guys on terrible teams dominate the playoffs. I'll probably stop starting him automatically until he gets consistent work he'll be an RB2/RB3 type for now.

 

[Garrett]

Buy low. Buy right now.

The biggest question about Charles was his explosiveness and big play ability after the injury, and I think he showed he still has that in week one. Pushing him in the 2nd half of a game that was not going very well as at all is a risk that makes no sense.

The biggest concern should be Hillis; he should be all over these opportunities and he is not making use of them.

 

[therush]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?

Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

 

[the spanker]

Hillis will be fine. He's the GL RB and will be used to lighten Charles load no matter what. But if this sorness persists, hillis does have a grand opportunity to be a great RB2, even low-end 1, going forward.

 

[lbouchard]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Charles CJDMC so farForte pending sprain

 

[sporthenry]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Its way too early. Or should we label A-Rod and Brady as busts who are 14 and 15th QBs behind Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Matt Cassel, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes, they still put up decent numbers but it is all about marginal value. You could have used that first round pick to take Graham or Rice or even Adrian Peterson who is 15th overall according to Yahoo. Heck Calvin is a bust using this.

 

[therush]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Its way too early. Or should we label A-Rod and Brady as busts who are 14 and 15th QBs behind Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Matt Cassel, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes, they still put up decent numbers but it is all about marginal value. You could have used that first round pick to take Graham or Rice or even Adrian Peterson who is 15th overall according to Yahoo. Heck Calvin is a bust using this.

I read a quote sometime over the past few weeks with this data. The thing about top QBs is their bust rate is significantly lower. Sure, you could have drafted Peyton Manning early last year or Vick in the first last year but those are outliers. Are these the signs of the high bust rate we see at the top of the RB position (the toughest position to get top notch production out of)?Or does CJ bounce back like he did last year and Charles regains his carries?

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Buy low. Buy right now.

The biggest question about Charles was his explosiveness and big play ability after the injury, and I think he showed he still has that in week one. Pushing him in the 2nd half of a game that was not going very well as at all is a risk that makes no sense.

The biggest concern should be Hillis; he should be all over these opportunities and he is not making use of them.

If Charles plays as his pre-ACL tear level, it is hard to imagine another coaching staff putting Charles on the bench much for an inferior back.

 

[sporthenry]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Its way too early. Or should we label A-Rod and Brady as busts who are 14 and 15th QBs behind Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Matt Cassel, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes, they still put up decent numbers but it is all about marginal value. You could have used that first round pick to take Graham or Rice or even Adrian Peterson who is 15th overall according to Yahoo. Heck Calvin is a bust using this.

I read a quote sometime over the past few weeks with this data. The thing about top QBs is their bust rate is significantly lower. Sure, you could have drafted Peyton Manning early last year or Vick in the first last year but those are outliers. Are these the signs of the high bust rate we see at the top of the RB position (the toughest position to get top notch production out of)?Or does CJ bounce back like he did last year and Charles regains his carries?

Statistically, I know QB's and TE's are more consistent than RB's. I believe you are thinking about Matt Berry as he championed this strategy this year. The problem with this is that this year you had an abnormally high amount of QBs in the first round b/c of last year's production. So if you go with regression to the mean (and what we are seeing so far), the QB numbers won't be nearly as high as they were last year and while I think those 4 QBs end up in the top 10 of QBs are they going to give you the marginal value of selecting them 5-6 rounds before Rivers or Ryan? And the thing too with the statistics is that you say 4 out of 10 RBs end up outside the top 10 so you can hedge your bets and just not draft an RB in round 1 but you will lose value. And statistics are all fun and good but they are relatively meaningless when dealing with just 1 sample size which is what you are doing with a first round RB draft pick.

 

[rickyg]

Don't mean to be insensitive to Charles' owners but...this is exactly why I avoided charles and drafted Payton Hillis in every league I am in. Like I have maintained, Charles May very well explode this season in an astonishing return to full health and fantasy godliness. But if you wanted him you had to use a second round pick. I let others take that risk and drafted his backup (a great rb inhis own rt) 4 rounds later. I'd rather take the risk that Charles will return to fantasy stardom relegating Hillis to a 5 carry per game backup than spending a 2nd rd pick on a guy coming off an acl tear only to watch him get reinjured or have other related injuries or be kept on a snap count (only to watch his backup blow up).

That said Hillis is doing everything he can to mess up his opportunity so I wouldn't worry too much about it Charles owners lol.

 

[Air Stich]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Its way too early. Or should we label A-Rod and Brady as busts who are 14 and 15th QBs behind Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Matt Cassel, and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Yes, they still put up decent numbers but it is all about marginal value. You could have used that first round pick to take Graham or Rice or even Adrian Peterson who is 15th overall according to Yahoo. Heck Calvin is a bust using this.

I read a quote sometime over the past few weeks with this data. The thing about top QBs is their bust rate is significantly lower. Sure, you could have drafted Peyton Manning early last year or Vick in the first last year but those are outliers. Are these the signs of the high bust rate we see at the top of the RB position (the toughest position to get top notch production out of)?Or does CJ bounce back like he did last year and Charles regains his carries?

Charles didn't go in the 1st round in any of my 10 leagues. I don't think he went any higher than 15th. That said, it looks like both CJ and Charles are gonna underperform their ADPs. Both will likely have a couple big games, but I don't think they will lead teams to the Championship.

 

[hines]

why are people acting like this is a reason he will underperform his ADP and gloating that they stayed away. he had a knee flareup in a blowout so they held him out, that's all. he's still their best back and will be the one getting the ball the most in important situations when he's healthy and all indications are his knee will be fine now

 

[sporthenry]

Don't mean to be insensitive to Charles' owners but...this is exactly why I avoided charles and drafted Payton Hillis in every league I am in. Like I have maintained, Charles May very well explode this season in an astonishing return to full health and fantasy godliness. But if you wanted him you had to use a second round pick. I let others take that risk and drafted his backup (a great rb inhis own rt) 4 rounds later. I'd rather take the risk that Charles will return to fantasy stardom relegating Hillis to a 5 carry per game backup than spending a 2nd rd pick on a guy coming off an acl tear only to watch him get reinjured or have other related injuries or be kept on a snap count (only to watch his backup blow up). That said Hillis is doing everything he can to mess up his opportunity so I wouldn't worry too much about it Charles owners lol.

Well that is why I avoided Hillis in all of my leagues b/c he is a bum. So instead I could use that pick on someone like Ridley, Frank Gore, A. Brown, BJGE,etc. It goes both ways. The two leagues I have Charles in were actually auction leagues where people undervalued him and that is fine. I will probably bench him until he gets back to workhorse but as long as I can weather the storm, he'll be rolling in the playoffs for RB2 value.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I'm a fan of JC, but a flare up in a surgically repaired knee is indeed a concern. I'm buying Hillis wherever possible.

 

[jurb26]

I'm a fan of JC, but a flare up in a surgically repaired knee is indeed a concern. I'm buying Hillis wherever possible.

Agreed. This is a worst case for me (and I'm sure many JC owners). He's got a juicy matchup vs. NO this week but now I've got no idea what to expect out of him as far as touches. This should be a game where you don't even have to think about starting him. No I/we do. If I bench him it will be for Ingram, which isn't exactly lighting things up either.Going to have to try and pay close attention to this all week leading up to the game. Even then, you never know if he will have another "flare up" during the game.

 

[sandlotshrink]

If I were a JC owner, I would be very worried due to soreness in the surgically repaired knee. Perhaps normal, perhaps it's not. As a Hillis owner, I am concerned about his inability to step up AND the presence of Shaun Draughn. If JC has to be shut down for a while, do we envision it becoming a Hillis run game or an RBBC with Draughn?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Looks like it's time to put some offers in for Charles.

 

[steelwind]

Well I supposed we can use more negative posts in this thread. No just kidding. I'm actually going to offer some optimism. Why? Because the Shark Pool has been infested with negativity. Here's what I've gathered from all the websites FBG, CBS, Roto Experts, ESPN and Sirius XM Fantasy Football. Soreness in the knee after surgery is expected. Even Adrian Peterson has soreness in his knee. You just haven't heard them say anything about it. The fact that JC was ready to come back in tells me that he's fine. KC was getting blown out so they held him out. And this is the biggest concern. It's not the knee that JC owners should be worried about. It's the KC defense. If the game is competitive then JC will be in there. Here is where there exists a little boom or bust factor. I'm downgrading JC to a RB2 with upside if the KC defense fixes itself.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

What's more concerning is that the chiefs have show they will sit charles for draughns when they are down 2-3 scores. This teams sucks. That scenario is fairly likely on a week to week basis.

 

[packersfan]

What's more concerning is that the chiefs have show they will sit charles for draughns when they are down 2-3 scores.

As a Charles owner what bothers me right now is how he's being used, not that he's experiencing what in all probability is routine soreness given the injury he suffered. He looked damn good in the preseason and in Week 1. I'm not worried at this time about his knee. What I want to see from the Chiefs is a more intelligent approach in terms of how they are going to utilize him.

 

[steelwind]

What's more concerning is that the chiefs have show they will sit charles for draughns when they are down 2-3 scores.

As a Charles owner what bothers me right now is how he's being used, not that he's experiencing what in all probability is routine soreness given the injury he suffered. He looked damn good in the preseason and in Week 1. I'm not worried at this time about his knee. What I want to see from the Chiefs is a more intelligent approach in terms of how they are going to utilize him.

I agree with you there. It looks like they are taking it easy on him at the start of the season.

 

[Thumper]

I'm very nervous about Charles health as well as the way he is being used. Add to that the fact KC is getting blown out of every game and one can't be blamed for not feeling good about Chales going forward.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

What's more concerning is that the chiefs have show they will sit charles for draughns when they are down 2-3 scores.

As a Charles owner what bothers me right now is how he's being used, not that he's experiencing what in all probability is routine soreness given the injury he suffered. He looked damn good in the preseason and in Week 1. I'm not worried at this time about his knee. What I want to see from the Chiefs is a more intelligent approach in terms of how they are going to utilize him.

I agree with you there. It looks like they are taking it easy on him at the start of the season.

I think it's the second half of the season where Charles is going to pay off. Spot starter for now. Stud starter beginning week 6-8.

 

[Abstract]

As a Chiefs fan and a Charles owner I'm not worried about Charles yet. The KC Star reported today that Charles practically begged to go back into the game but Grandpa Crennel wouldn't let him. As was mentioned earlier, Charles is going to be an excellent back for the 2nd part of the season and if you can buy low on him now I advise you do it. The soreness is typical. I fully expect Charles to have a HUGE game against the Saints this weekend.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

As a Chiefs fan and a Charles owner I'm not worried about Charles yet. The KC Star reported today that Charles practically begged to go back into the game but Grandpa Crennel wouldn't let him. As was mentioned earlier, Charles is going to be an excellent back for the 2nd part of the season and if you can buy low on him now I advise you do it. The soreness is typical. I fully expect Charles to have a HUGE game against the Saints this weekend.

 

[Bad_Mo]

Chiefs coach Romeo Crennel revealed Monday that Jamaal Charles dealt with knee soreness in Sunday's loss, but that he's expected to be fine for Week 3.

It explains why Charles only touched the ball twice in the second half of Kansas City's blowout loss to the Bills. Although any injury for a player of Charles' caliber is disconcerting, occasional soreness is hardly a cause for alarm for a player coming off a torn ACL. Not everybody is Adrian Peterson. Charles has a mouthwatering Week 3 matchup with a Saints' run defense that's been by far the league's worst through the season's first two weeks.

If only they used the term "tasty"...

 

[CalBear]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Charles wasn't a first-round RB. More like late second round.

 

[jackdubl]

As a Chiefs fan and a Charles owner I'm not worried about Charles yet. The KC Star reported today that Charles practically begged to go back into the game but Grandpa Crennel wouldn't let him. As was mentioned earlier, Charles is going to be an excellent back for the 2nd part of the season and if you can buy low on him now I advise you do it. The soreness is typical. I fully expect Charles to have a HUGE game against the Saints this weekend.

Don't need a link if you watched the game. Standing behind your head coach for an hour, in uniform, with helmet, bouncing like an excited child = he wanted to come back in the game.

 

[NCPanthersFan]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Charles wasn't a first-round RB. More like late second round.

6th round here. I did not participate in a singe draft where he went in the 1st two rounds.

 

[therush]

What's the number? 4.5 of the top 10 or first round RBs end up busting?Are we seeing the first two in Charles and CJ?

Charles wasn't a first-round RB. More like late second round.

6th round here. I did not participate in a singe draft where he went in the 1st two rounds.

Wow. He went in first 2 rounds in every single one of mine. I think it was 4.5 of the top 12 ranked RBs because I remember the number 33% so that would be accurate. FosterRiceMcCoyC. JohnsonMcFaddenForteCharlesPetersonMatthewsMurrayMJD?CJ, McFadden, Forte, Charles?Also, if they're not playing him in blowouts id be pretty intimidated about going into NO after they've gone opened the season 0-2. If you think the Bills can put up points watch out...

 

[Abstract]

As a Chiefs fan and a Charles owner I'm not worried about Charles yet. The KC Star reported today that Charles practically begged to go back into the game but Grandpa Crennel wouldn't let him. As was mentioned earlier, Charles is going to be an excellent back for the 2nd part of the season and if you can buy low on him now I advise you do it. The soreness is typical. I fully expect Charles to have a HUGE game against the Saints this weekend.

Here you go....http://www.kansascity.com/2012/09/17/3819851/crennel-says-chiefs-charles-has.html#storylink=misearch