Jamarcus Russell = Hefty Righty? (1 Viewer)

[vandyt]

According to SI.com's Don Banks, there are "rumors" that JaMarcus Russell has ballooned to close to 300 pounds since last season ended.Russell, who coach Lane Kiffin has named the Raiders' starter, had weight issues in college. InsideBayArea.com's Jerry McDonald writes in his blog that no players have actually seen Russell this offseason, so the rumors are hard to confirm. Russell has shown the ability to drop weight quickly.

Should be interesting to see what kind of shape he shows up in for minicamp.

 

[EBF]

This guy is so screwed. I just have this sinking feeling that the Raiders will draft McFadden and the whole stinking ship will go...

 

[Burning Sensation]

This guy is so screwed. I just have this sinking feeling that the Raiders will draft McFadden and the whole stinking ship will go...

Only EBF could turn Russell gaining weight into a shot against Mcfadden.

 

[massraider]

I heard a rumor that JaMarcus weighs 220 pouinds, and is running a 3.98 40.

I haven't seen him either, but there are rumors.

 

[travdogg]

Did he eat Culpepper

 

[kaso]

"Ballooned" is an odd word to use in a rumor. The Raiders website lists him at 255. Which means he probably walks around at a bit more then that. So the 300 lb rumor would mean that he put on 45 pounds.

 

[JohnnyU]

Did he eat Culpepper

I guess that's one way to eliminate the competition.

 

[Englishteacher]

Did he eat Culpepper

I guess that's one way to eliminate the competition.

Worked for Jabba pretty well (until he got blasted).

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Did he eat Culpepper

I guess that's one way to eliminate the competition.

what competition? at the buffet table?

 

[msommer]

Does he hang with the O-Line a lot?

 

[radiohead417]

Clearly the solution is to switch him to o-line and play Gallery at QB.

 

[Englishteacher]

Clearly the solution is to switch him to o-line and play Gallery at QB.

I think Gallery actually might have been a QB in high school. I think he might have been a QB in high school, started at TE at Iowa, then moved to O Line. I could be wrong though.

 

[JohnnyU]

Did he eat Culpepper

I guess that's one way to eliminate the competition.

what competition? at the buffet table?

It was more of a metaphor.

 

[Phlash]

Didn't he balloon up before the draft? And now this? Guy doesn't know when to put the fork down methinks

 

[Sabertooth]

Jamarcus is going to be a bust of Leafian proportions. Outside of Vernon Davis, I can't think of a player who I dislike from a prospect standpoint more than I dislike Russell. Plus he's on the Raiders, so basically he is playing for a bush league team that is about 20 years behind the rest of the NFL in terms of coaching and structure.

Once again, I will avoid all Raiders, just like last year. And in reality even in a dynasty setting, I still don't want any part of this once proud franchise.

 

[Sabertooth]

Did he eat Culpepper

I guess that's one way to eliminate the competition.

Worked for Jabba pretty well (until he got blasted).

Link? I always thought Jabba got strangled by Princess Leia!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

 

[Phlash]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

 

[SuperJohn96]

Clearly the solution is to switch him to o-line and play Gallery at QB.

I think Gallery actually might have been a QB in high school. I think he might have been a QB in high school, started at TE at Iowa, then moved to O Line. I could be wrong though.

He's eating his way into his dream position of "Team Bus".

 

[GroveDiesel]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

There were TONS of scouts and draft "experts" slobbering all over themselves about Russell.

 

[phthalatemagic]

How many people does this surprise? Last year at the combine, on of of the most important days of his professional life, he looked flabby.

 

[Sabertooth]

How many people does this surprise? Last year at the combine, on of of the most important days of his professional life, he looked flabby.

Like showing up the Career Day at Harvard wearing a Raiders hoody and jorts.

 

[Phurfur]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

There were TONS of scouts and draft "experts" slobbering all over themselves about Russell.

And we all know they are always right. Actually I think the word "TONS" is a bit strong.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

There were TONS of scouts and draft "experts" slobbering all over themselves about Russell.

And we all know they are always right. Actually I think the word "TONS" is a bit strong.

I don't. Tons of people were really enamored with his big arm and senior season's performance.

 

[teamroc]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

There were TONS of scouts and draft "experts" slobbering all over themselves about Russell.

And we all know they are always right. Actually I think the word "TONS" is a bit strong.

Uh no.Russell was not largely considered a "bust". He was considered a "franchise QB". Do you follow football and the draft?

There were "tons" of people who loved Russell.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

There were TONS of scouts and draft "experts" slobbering all over themselves about Russell.

And we all know they are always right. Actually I think the word "TONS" is a bit strong.

Uh no.Russell was not largely considered a "bust". He was considered a "franchise QB". Do you follow football and the draft?

There were "tons" of people who loved Russell.

I remember many people being skeptical of Russell.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I remember many people being skeptical of Russell.

Sure there were. But there were many, many more that thought he was the best option as a franchise QB.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

Check out this photo of Quinn standing next to Russel last year. Quinn is listed at 6'3 and 233 lbs. Russel was listed at 6'5 and generously listed at 265 lbs at this time last year.http://images.nfl.com/u/photos/pl_946968.jpg

 

[vandyt]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

Check out this photo of Quinn standing next to Russel last year. Quinn is listed at 6'3 and 233 lbs. Russel was listed at 6'5 and generously listed at 265 lbs at this time last year.http://images.nfl.com/u/photos/pl_946968.jpg

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[vandyt]

I remember many people being skeptical of Russell.

Sure there were. But there were many, many more that thought he was the best option as a franchise QB.

Perhaps those that fell in love with his physical tools.For me, hes just hasn't shown the maturity or leadership ability I'd want in a 22 yr old I'm cutting a $30m check to. Had he stayed in school another year and had that season of experience under his belt, I'd have felt alot more confident about him.

 

[delusional]

i wonder how many 1st rounders we will see hold out when the raiders select them

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Last year the Browns inquired about trading up for Jamarcus and many people brought up concerns over his weight and felt he had a motivation issue. They probably were right. Here is some of the 'fat' criticism of Russell from last year.

A jab from Football Outsiders.

http://deadspin.com/sports/nfl-draft/al-da...sell-256111.php

The Oakland Raiders, with the 1st overall selection, take JaMarcus Russell, QB, LSU. Mike Tanier of Football Outsiders tells you all about it.

Russell can throw a football 60 yards while seated. That'll come in handy if he goes on a Golden Corral binge an hour before kickoff. At 265-pounds and growing like Dow Jones Industrial Average, Russell is big enough to be his own blocker, another skill that will help him in Oakland. At least the big guy's appetite keeps him out of trouble: if he goes to Vegas, it's for the buffets, not to make it rain in champagne rooms.

Russell will never be a target for the league's discipline policy unless Commissioner Clampdown adds ranch dressing to the list of controlled substances. Look, I'm not saying the kid's fat, but at LSU Pro Day, receiver Dwayne Bowe (a walking Greek status) worked out shirtless, while Russell wore a big gray kimono from the Marlon Brando consignment gallery.

But seriously folks, I'm required by law to describe Russell's arm as a "Howitzer," and I am also contractually obligated to mention that Al Davis likes the vertical passing attack, for which Russell is ideally suited. What new Raiders coach Lil' Lane Kiffen wants doesn't matter; it's just a good thing that the Raiders drafted before 1:00 PM, because Kiffen starts fussing if he misses his afternoon nap.

Russell joins a long list of young quarterbacks who developed into superstars with the Raiders. There's Andrew Walt ... uh, no, but there's Todd Marino ... um, Marques Tui ... er, Marc Wil ... eh, Billy Joe ... wait ... Ken Stabler, 35 years ago! On the bright side, though, at least Russell will get to work with a real offensive coordinator (Greg Knapp), not that Basil Fawlty guy they had last year.

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Another dig from NFL Draft Preview.http://www.footblog.com/nfl-draft-preview-...sell-011284.php

JaMarcus' worst enemy. BACK AWAY FROM THE BUFFET!

Day two of my NFL Draft previews brings us to the player that most believe will be the first name Roger Goodell EVER announces at the NFL Draft. He's strong, he's kind of agile, and he may be fat. He's JaMarcus Russell.....

... Completely Unbiased Synopsis: JaMarcus is one of those players that gets me a bit worried. He has a cannon for an arm and throws a beautiful ball but he seems to have come out of nowhere a bit. His game against Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl catapulted him to the top of the draft, but let's be real folks, that was Notre Dame. They're not exactly known for their lockdown defense. Russell reminds most people of Daunte Culpepper since he's a similar size and has a similar arm. He also seems to have a similar attitude which would not be a good thing. JaMarcus showed up to the combine overweight and didn't seem to give a damn about it. This usually throws up a red flag for me. I understand that you're actually going to work out at your pro day (which he did to rave reviews) but if you were interviewing for a multi-million dollar job with nothing else to worry about, wouldn't you make sure to show up to one stage of it in shape and ready to go? I'm not asking you to work out at the combine, but at least show up in shape. As far as his level of play in college, JaMarcus played in the SEC which means he was playing top level competition week in and week out. That being said he played pretty well most of the time, though in tough games last year against Florida, Tennessee, and Auburn, his performance dipped a bit. Don't know if that's a sign of things to come but I guess we'll see.

Where He's Headed: Hmmm, let's see. Unbelievable arm? Check. Possible attitude problem? Check. Sure sounds like an Oakland Raider to me. I really don't see any way the Raiders don't take Russell with the number one overall pick. Al Davis (who people tell me is still alive) loves a vertical passing offense and this guy has a rocket for an arm so I'm sure Davis would be drooling if he still had that ability. The only other guy I could see the Raiders taking at number one is Calvin Johnson and that may not happen even if they are able to trade Randy Moss. I'd be willing to throw down a pretty good amount of money that JaMarcus is the first one getting his name called on April 28th. If he doesn't, you can expect a lot of teams trying to trade up to number two (and swindle Matt Millen's dumb ###) to get Russell.

BOLD PREDICTION: JaMarcus goes to the Raiders, and becomes a QB who is great at times but still throws stupid interceptions that make you want to bash your head against a wall repeatedly.

I still love the kid's arm. He needs to get his butt in gear. I'd hate to see his incredible potential go down the drain.

 

[Phurfur]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

There were TONS of scouts and draft "experts" slobbering all over themselves about Russell.

And we all know they are always right. Actually I think the word "TONS" is a bit strong.

Uh no.Russell was not largely considered a "bust". He was considered a "franchise QB". Do you follow football and the draft?

There were "tons" of people who loved Russell.

Did I say he was a bust? I don't remember doing that.Yes, I remember. Before he had his big bowl game performance he was not #1 on everyone's list. One great game and everyone jumped on his band wagon. These people are like weathermen. Make a prediction, forget about it and move on.

 

[Yenrub]

The kid seems to have the arm but also some work ethic issues

How did he look when he played last season?

 

[NorrisB]

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

or CJ2 or Joe Thomas or ADP or anyone else... seriously, everyone outside of Al Davis knew this was a bust.

There were TONS of scouts and draft "experts" slobbering all over themselves about Russell.

Yeah and some user named Sigmund Bloom here was slobbering all over him as well.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Yeah and some user named Sigmund Bloom here was slobbering all over him as well.

Uh oh.

 

[JAA]

This guy is so screwed. I just have this sinking feeling that the Raiders will draft McFadden and the whole stinking ship will go...

Only EBF could turn Russell gaining weight into a shot against Mcfadden.

 

[Whiplash Inc.]

Get a grip. Let the guy play at least a season or two before calling him a bust. The whole weight thing certainly is a concern, but until he's been a full time starter for a while it's too early to rush to conclusions.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Get a grip. Let the guy play at least a season or two before calling him a bust. The whole weight thing certainly is a concern, but until he's been a full time starter for a while it's too early to rush to conclusions.

Nobody's calling him that yet. They're just saying the signs are there.

 

[jurb26]

Get a grip. Let the guy play at least a season or two before calling him a bust. The whole weight thing certainly is a concern, but until he's been a full time starter for a while it's too early to rush to conclusions.

I've never been a Russell fan, but you have to give a guy a fair shot. This reminds me of the quick judgment of Lendale White when rumors of him gaining weight surfaced and everyone had to get a shot in. White seems to be doing fine.

 

[Ripleys]

much too early to call him a bust. How about we give him a chance to play a few games on the field. I hate the Raiders as much as anyone, but silly to throw this guy under the bus (could he fit under a bus? ) this early in his career.

 

[massraider]

Get a grip. Let the guy play at least a season or two before calling him a bust. The whole weight thing certainly is a concern, but until he's been a full time starter for a while it's too early to rush to conclusions.

Nobody's calling him that yet. They're just saying the signs are there.

RUMOR OF RUSSELL WEIGHT GAIN DISPUTEDIn response to our posting of a rumor from Don Banks of SI.com that Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell is closing in on 300 pounds, a league source says that Russell isn't close to 300 pounds, and that his weight is south of 275.Russell's listed weight is 255.Last year, Russell caused a mini-stir at the Scouting Combine when he weighed in at a flabby 265 pounds. Is this a sign that he's a future stud?Is Brady Quinn's failure to beat out Derek Anderson a sign that HE may be a bust? I was told in no uncertain terms that Quinn was pro-ready. Groomed by Charlie Weis, and ready to go, right off the assembly line. A BS rumor gets started, without one confirmed sighting of this supposed flabby QB, and "the signs are there"? I need more, personally.The big concern should be that Al Davis isn't going to allow the coaching stability that any young QB needs to develop. If Kiffin goes, which I think is a matter of when, not if, then Russell could be headed down the path of young QBs that get 3 offensive coordinators in 4 years, or some such crap. Which sucks.

 

[Jous]

This guy is so screwed. I just have this sinking feeling that the Raiders will draft McFadden and the whole stinking ship will go...

Interesting, that'd be the first time I'd have seen a ship turn into a train crash!.....ZING!

 

[Novice2]

growing like Dow Jones Industrial Average,

So he is like a buck 50 now right?

 

[bcr8f]

How many people does this surprise? Last year at the combine, on of of the most important days of his professional life, he looked flabby.

You people are so gullible. No wonder George Bush is president. You'll believe anything negative.

 

[Duke1948]

Get a grip. Let the guy play at least a season or two before calling him a bust. The whole weight thing certainly is a concern, but until he's been a full time starter for a while it's too early to rush to conclusions.

I've never been a Russell fan, but you have to give a guy a fair shot. This reminds me of the quick judgment of Lendale White when rumors of him gaining weight surfaced and everyone had to get a shot in. White seems to be doing fine.

was thinking the same thing, last year this board was calling him all sorts of names, when if fact he had NOT gained the weight that was rumored.

 

[Brutis]

I would probably be a horrible GM cuz I would run it like a fantasy team. Not that I would go RB/RB in every draft but I hate the thought of a rookie QB in rd1. Percentages say they wont be worth squat for a couple of years so I would rather have the other teams draft them and grab them via FA when the growing pains are over.

 

[FUBAR]

Get a grip. Let the guy play at least a season or two before calling him a bust. The whole weight thing certainly is a concern, but until he's been a full time starter for a while it's too early to rush to conclusions.

Nobody's calling him that yet. They're just saying the signs are there.

RUMOR OF RUSSELL WEIGHT GAIN DISPUTEDIn response to our posting of a rumor from Don Banks of SI.com that Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell is closing in on 300 pounds, a league source says that Russell isn't close to 300 pounds, and that his weight is south of 275.

Russell's listed weight is 255.

Last year, Russell caused a mini-stir at the Scouting Combine when he weighed in at a flabby 265 pounds.

Is this a sign that he's a future stud?

Is Brady Quinn's failure to beat out Derek Anderson a sign that HE may be a bust?

I was told in no uncertain terms that Quinn was pro-ready. Groomed by Charlie Weis, and ready to go, right off the assembly line.

A BS rumor gets started, without one confirmed sighting of this supposed flabby QB, and "the signs are there"? I need more, personally.

The big concern should be that Al Davis isn't going to allow the coaching stability that any young QB needs to develop. If Kiffin goes, which I think is a matter of when, not if, then Russell could be headed down the path of young QBs that get 3 offensive coordinators in 4 years, or some such crap. Which sucks.

Quinn may have been ready to start early last year. Anderson played well enough to keep him on the bench.When Russell couldn't beat out Culpepper and McCown, and he's not working hard enough over the offseason, that is problematic.

Should have drafted Brady Quinn.

Check out this photo of Quinn standing next to Russel last year. Quinn is listed at 6'3 and 233 lbs. Russel was listed at 6'5 and generously listed at 265 lbs at this time last year.http://images.nfl.com/u/photos/pl_946968.jpg

In his defense, Russell gave birth a month later.

 

[bcr8f]

Get a grip. Let the guy play at least a season or two before calling him a bust. The whole weight thing certainly is a concern, but until he's been a full time starter for a while it's too early to rush to conclusions.

I've never been a Russell fan, but you have to give a guy a fair shot. This reminds me of the quick judgment of Lendale White when rumors of him gaining weight surfaced and everyone had to get a shot in. White seems to be doing fine.

was thinking the same thing, last year this board was calling him all sorts of names, when if fact he had NOT gained the weight that was rumored.

I don't know. He looked pretty chubby when running but got the jod done. Weight on a QB is less of a problem, besides Russell drops weight pretty well.