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This guy. I like Jones' potential too but potential is all it's been so far. Very inconsistent even though he has the athletic ability to be a Boldin type guy. It won't hurt my feelings if he leaves because I think Nelson has a chance to be much more dependable. Maybe not the YAC ability that Jones has but he can move the chains and has the sneaky speed to go deep. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Ted Thompson picks a WR in the 2011 draft. They're fine with Jennings, Finley, Driver, and Nelson but Driver's going to eventually lose it and they'll need to reload the position in the future. Would love to see them get a Jordan Shipley type in the 3rd/4th round of the draft.Jordy Nelson
Jones had another terrible drop on Sunday - late in the first half on 3rd and 4, just after Jennings had dropped a td pass on 2nd down. Bob McGinn reported this to be Jones' 8th drop of the season. That sounds about right. His inconsistency is maddening, but it seems that is fixable, with maturity and hard work. The talent is there. I hope and expect that the Packers will keep him, but I'm not so certain he'll just slide into the #2 role. The McCarthy/Rodgers offense will always be one where there are 7 or 8 different receivers catching balls each game (9 on Sunday). If Finley comes back healthy, that's another big target for next season. Perhaps, purely from a fantasy perspective, it would be best for Jones to make a move.
This is an important thing to note. Finley will be back in 2011, and be a top target for Rodgers. If Jones is back with the Packers, I'd think he'll be good for about 400-600 yards and a few TDs. If Jones goes elsewhere, I think he has the talent to be a 1000 yard guy, given enough opportunity. Remember that he is catching passes from Aaron Rodgers, (at least trying to anyway). If he goes elsewhere, QB accuracy is likely to go down.
True, in all certainty, he would not benefit from a QB as good as Rodgers. But assuming he was brought in to be a teams #1 or 1b WR, the counterbalance would be a big uptick in targets from the 4-6 he gets now.It also depends on the destination. I'd be a bit wary if he went to, say, the Browns, but f he were to go to a team like the Rams, I wouldn't view that as a big downgrade with Bradford.
TBD. I'm guessing that the NFLPA wins this one and there will be a TON of players on the market.
What if a new agreement isn't signed until the summer. Does anyone know how that affects FA early this year?
I agree. Owners may feel they have the upper hand this time, but any negotiation has to have big gives and takes. To me, owners seem dead set on 18 game seasons, a lower percentage of gross revenues for the players, and a rookie wage structure. Players need to get something back and, to me, the two obvious areas are: loosened free agency (and perhaps changes to the transition/franchise designations), and better long-term healthcare/pension/benefits for players.
Not to hijack, but....the owner's contrary view of a 18 game schedule and player's health is a huge divide. I see this as the second battle in the discussions (gross revenue being #1). The current 5th year players FA is almost a gimme for union because of the (unspoken) collusion this past off season. The franchise player will be changed and the NFLPA probably has more leverage there. Back to Jones. Assuming that the 5th year players are granted UFA, that could easily put a downward pressure of current FA salaries and the revised rookie contracts compounds that more. 3 year deal and put him at 1B on a team like the Falcons/Chiefs/Bills and he should be good to go.
James Jones has been in the league four years. If it ain't fixed by now, it ain't getting fixed.Super talent. Physically gifted. Plagued by concentration lapses that lead to dropped passes and fumbles at inopportune moments.I like the guy as a person, but he is replacable.
Totally in agreement with you here. Landing with the Rams or Falcons with starters' money would be a pretty big boost for Jones value. However, he struggles catching passes from Aaron Rodgers. Going somewhere without an accurate QB could increase his drop rate. Also remember that he's been in the same offense for four years. He should know his routes and route adjustments inside and out. What is gonna happen if he goes elsewhere and needs to start thinking about terminology? Will he drop more? At this point Jones is a gamble for 2011. I'd say the chances that he is a quality fantasy starter next year are less than 25%.
Brandon Lloyd and BMW are on lines 1 and 2, respectively.
Jones has less luggage than both those receivers also.
He dropped the same exact pass a few weeks ago. Can't remember the game, but it was the same exact play. He shows flashes, then does something like that.
Would have to be a big bag of kettle chips.
I highly doubt Thompson overpays for this inconsistency.
Agreed...but not sure anyone will right now.For the right price, I want him back.There have been WRs who in the past have had drop issues and gotten over it.He makes some nice plays for sure and has the talent.Just not sure that right price will be there.And for the Troy Williamson comparison...please.So far Jones has been better than Williamson ever was.
He also had a huge drop, much like yesterday's, against the Giants. Would have sealed both games even better.
Don't worry, it happens every game. Usually at critical points - 3rd down etc.
This. Your league must have some active owners for dynasty trades at this time of year. With the Packers playing well, Jones value might not be that low. What do you think is a fair price, given all the uncertainty of what will transpire before next season?
If he could ever solve his drops, he would be a top ten NFL receiver. Runs great routes which allows him to get separation. And he can make tough catches. But the drops. Oof.His first half tonight shows how good he can be.
Lets not get carried away
That would be a great fit. Jones would creep inside my top 30 wr's if he was in a position to be a #1/#2 option in Cleveland
Obviously catching the football is pretty important receivers, so Jones will never approach top ten status, but watch him run routes on the field. Again, catching is just a little important, so Jones, likely won't ever be a top ten guy.
Except he's a TT draft pick and if there's even the slightest hint of a TT draft pick being good, he will not let him go.
I just don't know if it financially make sense. Someone is going to put in a pretty high offer for Jones, and I think the Packers priority should be in other areas. Move up Jordy Nelson and be done with it. Rodgers is one of those qbs who can make receivers better, like Philip Rivers. No need to throw a ton of $$$ at WR.
Even if Driver doesn't come back. The Packers can't afford to tie up good money in Jones. I would be fine with the starting duo of Jennings and Nelson next year. Obviously TT needs to address WR, but he does a nice job in the draft, so I am sure he can nab a solid one in the mid rounds.ookook said:
With this WR rich class I'm wondering if anyone will.
