James Starks (1 Viewer)

[sho nuff]

Since he's on the PUP list, is he allowed to practice with the team? Also, does anyone have any updates on how his rehab is going. I'm getting ready to stash him in my keeper league, and I just want to make sure it's not a waste of a spot.

No he can't practice. I have a hard time believing he'll contribute this season. Next season should be fun though..

It definitely makes sense that he wouldnt play this year. The only problem i have with that is why wouldnt the Packers just IR him instead of PUP him in that was the case. Now that Grant is out, i have to assume if they can get him back on the field this year, they will.If i am not mistaken, wasnt he practing with the team during mini-camp before re-aggravating the injury?

When they put him on the PUP, Grant was fine.IMO, they PUPed him hoping to bring him in later as the #3 RB behind Grant and Jackson and work him in some (if his rehab went well and they were able to make room on the roster for him).Now, I just don't see it happening.They will already have to open up a roster spot if Harris is ready to go from the PUP...I see him getting IRed as soon as he is off of the PUP, unless they bring in another RB and decide to go with Starks as the #3 over Nance.

 

[tdhartis]

Does no one think that given how poorly BJax has played in Grant's absence, and the need for a strong physical runner with such a weak O-line, that Starks might not be given a shot at splitting carries if not the starting gig around week 10-11. This would give him around a month to practice and get acquainted, meriting that he is fully recovered from his hamstrings problem. Basically, I'm trying to get a feel as to if people think hes worth a FA pickup around week 7 if he doesn't get IR'd, and what his upside is for the end of the season/ FF playoffs.

EDIT: He is also apparently running at full speed

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39357351/sports/player_news

 

[gradin123]

Does no one think that given how poorly BJax has played in Grant's absence, and the need for a strong physical runner with such a weak O-line, that Starks might not be given a shot at splitting carries if not the starting gig around week 10-11. This would give him around a month to practice and get acquainted, meriting that he is fully recovered from his hamstrings problem. Basically, I'm trying to get a feel as to if people think hes worth a FA pickup around week 7 if he doesn't get IR'd, and what his upside is for the end of the season/ FF playoffs.

EDIT: He is also apparently running at full speed

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39357351/sports/player_news

From what I read his not a strong physical runner. He is skinny and is an injury waiting to happen. He hasn't played competitive football since 2008. He missed training camp, the preseason and hasn't even practised with the Pack. There is more to be a running back in the NFL than running full speed. Can't see how he can contribute this year. Give him a full training camp and preseason and see how he looks but throw him out to the wolves in the middle of a NFL season? Not going to happen. The Pack aren't that desperate.

 

[tdhartis]

6"2, 220lbs isn't exactly small, especially considering those were his measurements before entering the draft. I'm not dumb and am well aware being able to run full speed doesn't means that he is ready to go out there and contribute. I thought it was important because it does mean he is close to being fully recovered from his hamstring issue, which is why he is on the PUP list in the first place. Meaning he would be able to get back to practice once he is off the list.

Is it so crazy to think they would at least give him a shot at carries after a few weeks of practice to see if he could bring some improvement to the seemingly forgotten running game? He was a very talented runner when he was at Buffalo, and could have been a 2-3 round draft pick if he played his senior season at all. How is thinking he might get a shot at some sort of contribution any more crazy then the fact that Legarrette Blount received a shot at carries after only being with the Bucs for a few weeks? Have you seen the Packers running game? If this running performance continues on to week 10 and beyond, I would be in desperation mode if I were them. If they want to win a Super Bowl they can't be a one dimensional team like we all saw Monday against the Bears.

Also, there are a lot of injury prone players in this league that continue to get opportunities despite their injury history. Gore, Fred Taylor, Beanie Wells, Ahman Green, Jahvid Best, Carnell Williams, and Ryan Torain come to mind. If a guy is talented you don't not give him a chance just because there's a shot he will get injured again.

 

[gehazi]

6"2, 220lbs isn't exactly small, especially considering those were his measurements before entering the draft. I'm not dumb and am well aware being able to run full speed doesn't means that he is ready to go out there and contribute. I thought it was important because it does mean he is close to being fully recovered from his hamstring issue, which is why he is on the PUP list in the first place. Meaning he would be able to get back to practice once he is off the list. Is it so crazy to think they would at least give him a shot at carries after a few weeks of practice to see if he could bring some improvement to the seemingly forgotten running game? He was a very talented runner when he was at Buffalo, and could have been a 2-3 round draft pick if he played his senior season at all. How is thinking he might get a shot at some sort of contribution any more crazy then the fact that Legarrette Blount received a shot at carries after only being with the Bucs for a few weeks? Have you seen the Packers running game? If this running performance continues on to week 10 and beyond, I would be in desperation mode if I were them. If they want to win a Super Bowl they can't be a one dimensional team like we all saw Monday against the Bears.

If GB doesn't trade for anyone than sure, he'll get a shot if he's ever healthy. Their other options are just not very good. But Starks was not able to stay healthy in college, why would he in the pros? And he still has to answer the question of whether he can play in the NFL. A lot working against him here.

 

[footballsavvy]

Last update on him was that he's been running full speed. I'm pretty sure they didn't draft him to never use him for fear of an injury. Assuming he's up to speed on the playbook he will be immediately worked into the backfield. If he looks good he will take over most of the carries within a couple of games after returning. This is all very logical considering the current circumstances.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Does no one think that given how poorly BJax has played in Grant's absence, and the need for a strong physical runner with such a weak O-line, that Starks might not be given a shot at splitting carries if not the starting gig around week 10-11. This would give him around a month to practice and get acquainted, meriting that he is fully recovered from his hamstrings problem. Basically, I'm trying to get a feel as to if people think hes worth a FA pickup around week 7 if he doesn't get IR'd, and what his upside is for the end of the season/ FF playoffs.

EDIT: He is also apparently running at full speed

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39357351/sports/player_news

From what I read his not a strong physical runner. He is skinny and is an injury waiting to happen. He hasn't played competitive football since 2008. He missed training camp, the preseason and hasn't even practised with the Pack. There is more to be a running back in the NFL than running full speed. Can't see how he can contribute this year. Give him a full training camp and preseason and see how he looks but throw him out to the wolves in the middle of a NFL season? Not going to happen. The Pack aren't that desperate.

He participated in OTAs didn't he? I think the Pack has plans for him this year or they would have just IR'd him.

 

[tdhartis]

I believe so, and he also has been attending all running back meetings and reviewing every games film. It's obvious the guy will be rusty after so long, but I find it hard to believe considering GB's circumstances he won't at least get a shot. He was PUPed even before Grant went down. Crazier things have happened, much like Grant jumping from the third string guy to starter and top 15 FF pick in a 12 month period when given the shot after Wynn went down with injury. And guess who was the #2 back he jumped to become starter? None other than BJax. Which only solidifies to me that they don't trust him as an every down back, as if it wasn't obvious enough. I realize its a longshot, but risks like picking up Starks could be huge near the end of the season, and you don't have to give up anything for him.

 

[OPS]

I keep seeing people ask "Why didn't they just IR him if they don't have plans to use him this year?" I think the simplest explanation is that they didn't have to. They have the PUP list for a reason. Having him on the PUP list doesn't cost them an active roster spot just the same as placing him on the IR wouldn't cost them an active roster spot. There would be no logical reason to put him on the IR if they don't have to.

That being said, if he makes the active roster at any point this season, I will pick him up. I could see him getting an opportunity on Sundays if he impresses in practice.

 

[sho nuff]

I keep seeing people ask "Why didn't they just IR him if they don't have plans to use him this year?" I think the simplest explanation is that they didn't have to. They have the PUP list for a reason. Having him on the PUP list doesn't cost them an active roster spot just the same as placing him on the IR wouldn't cost them an active roster spot. There would be no logical reason to put him on the IR if they don't have to.That being said, if he makes the active roster at any point this season, I will pick him up. I could see him getting an opportunity on Sundays if he impresses in practice.

As I said...when they pup'ed him they had Grant and Jackson...they could bring him in as a 3rd back and work him in slowly if needed.Now, I don't think they have the luxury of trying an untested back in week 7 of a season.As for the poster who said he could not stay healthy in college.He had a major (and unrelated) injury that shelved him for his senior year. I have yet to read he was some injury concern the rest of his college career.

 

[That Little Voice]

I agree with tdhartis 100%. He costs next to nothing right now and has a very legitimate chance at gaining meaningful carries for a high powered offense about a month from now.

Its a long season, and for today's waivers I am considering slotting him above BJGE, Torain, Blount. I dont want to wait for people to start talking more about Starks to roster him.

Question for tdhartis and others.. where does Dmitri Nance fit in the equation? I noticed he was inactive for the Chi game.

 

[tdhartis]

I just picked up Torain as a FA once waivers cleared. No one picked up Blount, so I figure I can sit on my bench players another week while TB is on their bye before I see if anyone is under performing and worth dropping for him. I'm obviously not playing with a bunch of sharks. I wouldn't put Starks ahead of Torain and Blount this week though, they both seem to have been guaranteed carries in the upcoming weeks while Starks won't even see the practice field. If all goes according to plan, I can see how both of them perform for a week or two, then start looking at picking up Starks week 6. Unless you are playing with a bunch of sharks, I'm guessing no one will pick him up by then. If you can see from the views of many on this thread, a lot of smart fantasy players are doubting he produces or is worth a speculative pickup apparently. But I I figure by week 6 or as late as 7, more information will be out on him, and we will see what sort of role Torain has after a couple weeks.

I have mixed feelings on Nance. He is in the exact same situation Grant was in before getting the starting gig. Grant was signed off of the Giant's practice squad by GB, and jumped to #1 when injury opportunity arose. Both him and Nance were undrafted. The possibility of GB catching lightning in a bottle twice is unlikely, but I don't see anything so far that makes me think he is rosterable. He received two carries against Buffalo, and like you said, none against Chicago. My feeling at this point is that GB signed him solely because behind BJax they didn't have a single true RB, and he will just be there in case Jackson goes down. My two cents.

 

[Pipes]

I keep seeing people ask "Why didn't they just IR him if they don't have plans to use him this year?" I think the simplest explanation is that they didn't have to. They have the PUP list for a reason. Having him on the PUP list doesn't cost them an active roster spot just the same as placing him on the IR wouldn't cost them an active roster spot. There would be no logical reason to put him on the IR if they don't have to.That being said, if he makes the active roster at any point this season, I will pick him up. I could see him getting an opportunity on Sundays if he impresses in practice.

As I said...when they pup'ed him they had Grant and Jackson...they could bring him in as a 3rd back and work him in slowly if needed.Now, I don't think they have the luxury of trying an untested back in week 7 of a season.As for the poster who said he could not stay healthy in college.He had a major (and unrelated) injury that shelved him for his senior year. I have yet to read he was some injury concern the rest of his college career.

Missing an entire season due to one injury and then suffering a different injury before a meaningful NFL game sounds eerily similar to one Justin Harrell. I have no problem with giving him a shot and since he's a 6th rounder it's not a big deal if he doesn't pan out it. I just hope they aren't planning on him being the solution. Way too much risk involved for a team with Super Bowl aspirations. I hope I'm wrong on him but he just seems more like a long term project than a 2010 solution.

 

[Sammy Traveller]

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

 

[gradin123]

People who think he can significantly contribute this year are way off base IMO.

I realize running back is an easier position than some but there still is a lot more to the position than just running. Can this guy pick-up the blitz? The Pack have no idea.

I think the Pack put him on PUP instead of IR just so they could see him practice a few times this year. To expect him to jump into the starting line-up at any point this year after not playing any football for nearly 2 years is nuts.

 

[nlgb1]

I keep seeing people ask "Why didn't they just IR him if they don't have plans to use him this year?" I think the simplest explanation is that they didn't have to. They have the PUP list for a reason. Having him on the PUP list doesn't cost them an active roster spot just the same as placing him on the IR wouldn't cost them an active roster spot. There would be no logical reason to put him on the IR if they don't have to.That being said, if he makes the active roster at any point this season, I will pick him up. I could see him getting an opportunity on Sundays if he impresses in practice.

As I said...when they pup'ed him they had Grant and Jackson...they could bring him in as a 3rd back and work him in slowly if needed.Now, I don't think they have the luxury of trying an untested back in week 7 of a season.As for the poster who said he could not stay healthy in college.He had a major (and unrelated) injury that shelved him for his senior year. I have yet to read he was some injury concern the rest of his college career.

this makes no sense... so hes less likely to get a roster spot now, when the team has sustained a major injury at the RB position, than if grant had been healthy, and starks would likely not see more than 3 or 4 snaps per game? i dont think i've ever seen a stranger post on this board. not sure where youre coming from on this one

 

[sho nuff]

I keep seeing people ask "Why didn't they just IR him if they don't have plans to use him this year?" I think the simplest explanation is that they didn't have to. They have the PUP list for a reason. Having him on the PUP list doesn't cost them an active roster spot just the same as placing him on the IR wouldn't cost them an active roster spot. There would be no logical reason to put him on the IR if they don't have to.That being said, if he makes the active roster at any point this season, I will pick him up. I could see him getting an opportunity on Sundays if he impresses in practice.

As I said...when they pup'ed him they had Grant and Jackson...they could bring him in as a 3rd back and work him in slowly if needed.Now, I don't think they have the luxury of trying an untested back in week 7 of a season.As for the poster who said he could not stay healthy in college.He had a major (and unrelated) injury that shelved him for his senior year. I have yet to read he was some injury concern the rest of his college career.

this makes no sense... so hes less likely to get a roster spot now, when the team has sustained a major injury at the RB position, than if grant had been healthy, and starks would likely not see more than 3 or 4 snaps per game? i dont think i've ever seen a stranger post on this board. not sure where youre coming from on this one

Im saying I don't think they have the luxury to try out an untested back in week 7.Now, I can see them letting Nance walk and go with Starks as the 3rd guy behind Jackson and Kuhn...or behind a RB they bring in (and I think they really need to do whatever it takes for Lynch...within reason of course, so not literally what ever they can...)

 

[nlgb1]

I keep seeing people ask "Why didn't they just IR him if they don't have plans to use him this year?" I think the simplest explanation is that they didn't have to. They have the PUP list for a reason. Having him on the PUP list doesn't cost them an active roster spot just the same as placing him on the IR wouldn't cost them an active roster spot. There would be no logical reason to put him on the IR if they don't have to.That being said, if he makes the active roster at any point this season, I will pick him up. I could see him getting an opportunity on Sundays if he impresses in practice.

As I said...when they pup'ed him they had Grant and Jackson...they could bring him in as a 3rd back and work him in slowly if needed.Now, I don't think they have the luxury of trying an untested back in week 7 of a season.As for the poster who said he could not stay healthy in college.He had a major (and unrelated) injury that shelved him for his senior year. I have yet to read he was some injury concern the rest of his college career.

this makes no sense... so hes less likely to get a roster spot now, when the team has sustained a major injury at the RB position, than if grant had been healthy, and starks would likely not see more than 3 or 4 snaps per game? i dont think i've ever seen a stranger post on this board. not sure where youre coming from on this one

Im saying I don't think they have the luxury to try out an untested back in week 7.Now, I can see them letting Nance walk and go with Starks as the 3rd guy behind Jackson and Kuhn...or behind a RB they bring in (and I think they really need to do whatever it takes for Lynch...within reason of course, so not literally what ever they can...)

what do you mean they dont have the luxury? sure they do, unless theyre fine with the 2.5-3 ypc kuhn and bjax is gonna give em. sure theres more to the RB position, like pass catching and blocking, but i think to say they dont have the luxury to try a different option is just not accurate

 

[sho nuff]

what do you mean they dont have the luxury? sure they do, unless theyre fine with the 2.5-3 ypc kuhn and bjax is gonna give em. sure theres more to the RB position, like pass catching and blocking, but i think to say they dont have the luxury to try a different option is just not accurate

I don't think a team with their possibility of being a super bowl contender but that thin at RB have the luxury to hope a late round pick that has not played in a year and a half can come in and do well for them.If they had Grant and Jackson...as they did when they put him on the PUP, they had that luxury. Now without a true feature back or even competent RBBC, I don't think they do.Im not saying they don't have the luxury to try another option...I disagree that he is that option they have the luxury to try at that point in a season.

 

[Football Jones]

Starks is no sure thing to even suit up this season. I think it's pretty clear Nance will be given a shot when he gets up to speed & they seem to like him. Eerily similar to the Grant situation where he had all of 6 carries in the first 7 weeks of the 2007 season before being given 22 carries in the 8th week. And the week before his coming out party, they didn't even use him.

I say keep an eye on Nance.

 

[tdhartis]

I don't think throwing him in there for about 5 carries and seeing how he reacts is a "luxury" either. The Pack will most likely be sitting pretty come that time record wise unless they fall apart, and I don't think its that big of a risk to try him out if he can show in practice he can hold onto the rock. No one is saying that he's a lock to become the starter, but given the performance of Jackson recently I don't see how it's so ridiculous as to think he might be given the slightest of opportunities to show what he's got.

 

[nlgb1]

Starks is no sure thing to even suit up this season. I think it's pretty clear Nance will be given a shot when he gets up to speed & they seem to like him. Eerily similar to the Grant situation where he had all of 6 carries in the first 7 weeks of the 2007 season before being given 22 carries in the 8th week. And the week before his coming out party, they didn't even use him.I say keep an eye on Nance.

nance wasnt even on the active roster against chicago

 

[Kleck]

Packers have high hopes for injured trio

Harris, Bigby, Starks are making progress

By Tom Silverstein of the Journal Sentinel - 9/24/10



Green Bay — Halfway through their six-week sabbatical, the Green Bay Packers' trio of rehabbing aspirants appear ready to be declared physically able to perform.

Cornerback Al Harris, safety Atari Bigby and running back James Starks have been working off the grid since the season started, training in anonymity while their teammates prepare to play each week.

All three are aiming to be 100% healthy Oct. 18, when they are eligible to come off the physically-unable-to-perform list. None has taken part in a single snap since training camp started because of injuries that resulted in them failing their physicals, but the club thought enough of their progress to keep them around.

Should they be activated right away, their first game would be against the Minnesota Vikings at Lambeau Field on Oct. 24. They would like to provide a midseason boost to a team that has yet to hit its stride...

Of the three, Starks appears to be the closest to 100%. After aggravating a hamstring injury during the conditioning run at the start of training camp, Starks has rehabbed for almost two months and is running full speed.

The 2010 sixth-round pick attends all the running backs meetings and watches every play during practice in preparation for his return. Given Ryan Grant's season-ending injury, anything Starks could provide would be welcome.

"Basically I'm just strengthening it a little more," Starks said. "But I think I'm pretty good. I'm trying to see how much I can tolerate and make sure everything is 100%. But I'm fine right now."...

 

[BigJim®]

People who think he can significantly contribute this year are way off base IMO.

Really?

 

[Football Jones]

Starks is no sure thing to even suit up this season. I think it's pretty clear Nance will be given a shot when he gets up to speed & they seem to like him. Eerily similar to the Grant situation where he had all of 6 carries in the first 7 weeks of the 2007 season before being given 22 carries in the 8th week. And the week before his coming out party, they didn't even use him.I say keep an eye on Nance.

nance wasnt even on the active roster against chicago

I understand that. He can't be up to speed yet, though. I believe Nance will get a shot when he's ready (if they don't trade for somebody).

 

[nlgb1]

Starks is no sure thing to even suit up this season. I think it's pretty clear Nance will be given a shot when he gets up to speed & they seem to like him. Eerily similar to the Grant situation where he had all of 6 carries in the first 7 weeks of the 2007 season before being given 22 carries in the 8th week. And the week before his coming out party, they didn't even use him.I say keep an eye on Nance.

nance wasnt even on the active roster against chicago

I understand that. He can't be up to speed yet, though. I believe Nance will get a shot when he's ready (if they don't trade for somebody).

they gave him a shot against BUF. then the following week he was deactivated. sounds like pretty positive progress

 

[That Little Voice]

Packers have high hopes for injured trio

Harris, Bigby, Starks are making progress

...

Of the three, Starks appears to be the closest to 100%. After aggravating a hamstring injury during the conditioning run at the start of training camp, Starks has rehabbed for almost two months and is running full speed.

The 2010 sixth-round pick attends all the running backs meetings and watches every play during practice in preparation for his return. Given Ryan Grant's season-ending injury, anything Starks could provide would be welcome.

"Basically I'm just strengthening it a little more," Starks said. "But I think I'm pretty good. I'm trying to see how much I can tolerate and make sure everything is 100%. But I'm fine right now."...

:greatposting:Thanks for sharing.

 

[Football Jones]

Starks is no sure thing to even suit up this season. I think it's pretty clear Nance will be given a shot when he gets up to speed & they seem to like him. Eerily similar to the Grant situation where he had all of 6 carries in the first 7 weeks of the 2007 season before being given 22 carries in the 8th week. And the week before his coming out party, they didn't even use him.I say keep an eye on Nance.

nance wasnt even on the active roster against chicago

I understand that. He can't be up to speed yet, though. I believe Nance will get a shot when he's ready (if they don't trade for somebody).

they gave him a shot against BUF. then the following week he was deactivated. sounds like pretty positive progress

That could've been for any number of reasons. Nance got all of 2 carries in week 2. And like I mentioned earlier, they did virtually the exact same thing with Grant (no touches before his breakout game after getting some in previous weeks).

 

[Phase of the Game]

Since he's on the PUP list, is he allowed to practice with the team? Also, does anyone have any updates on how his rehab is going. I'm getting ready to stash him in my keeper league, and I just want to make sure it's not a waste of a spot.

No he can't practice. I have a hard time believing he'll contribute this season. Next season should be fun though..

It definitely makes sense that he wouldnt play this year. The only problem i have with that is why wouldnt the Packers just IR him instead of PUP him in that was the case. Now that Grant is out, i have to assume if they can get him back on the field this year, they will.If i am not mistaken, wasnt he practing with the team during mini-camp before re-aggravating the injury?

I see him getting IRed as soon as he is off of the PUP, unless they bring in another RB and decide to go with Starks as the #3 over Nance.

Why would the Packers put Starks on IR when he is eligible to come off the PUP if he is healthy considering the RB situation?

 

[Football Jones]

In short, I believe it's a virtual lock Nance gets a chance to show what he can do if they don't make a move. Starks isn't eligible to come off the PUP for several weeks & probably needs practice time to get his game legs under him, if he's even healthy enough to play.

 

[Flash]

In short, I believe it's a virtual lock Nance gets a chance to show what he can do if they don't make a move. Starks isn't eligible to come off the PUP for several weeks & probably needs practice time to get his game legs under him, if he's even healthy enough to play.

A reporter asked McCarthy if Nance could help them this week, and McCarthy responded "Definitely"I believe he will get a chance to show what he can do this week.

 

[gradin123]

In short, I believe it's a virtual lock Nance gets a chance to show what he can do if they don't make a move. Starks isn't eligible to come off the PUP for several weeks & probably needs practice time to get his game legs under him, if he's even healthy enough to play.

I know Grant came out of nowhere but that doesn't mean that because the Packers caught lightning in a bottle once they can do it again. I did some research on Nance and he just doesn't look that good at all. He is a guy who played a full college career without injury but simply wasn't very good at the college level. He didn't do anything significant in his 4 years at Arizona State. In his senior year (his best year) he had 795 yards rushing in 12 games and he started in 11 of those games. He averaged 4.2 yards per carry and his long on the season was 35 yards that was with 188 carries.He appearently struggled pretty bad in practice last week and that was why he was deactivated. He had 21 carries in the preseason with Atlanta for a whopping 51 yards and his long run was 9 yards. The guy doesn't seem to have any breakaway speed at all. They might give him a few looks this week but don't expect much.

 

[eakfootball]

He will be a top 10 dynasty back by the end of the 2010 season.

Do you mean top 10 rookies or overall?!?!?!?! even with the Grant injury he should only be kept in very deep dynasty leagues

 

[Phase of the Game]

In short, I believe it's a virtual lock Nance gets a chance to show what he can do if they don't make a move. Starks isn't eligible to come off the PUP for several weeks & probably needs practice time to get his game legs under him, if he's even healthy enough to play.

From the article above.."Of the three, Starks appears to be the closest to 100%. After aggravating a hamstring injury during the conditioning run at the start of training camp, Starks has rehabbed for almost two months and is running full speed."

 

[Phase of the Game]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

 

[sho nuff]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

 

[nlgb1]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

you still havent given a legitmate reason as to why

 

[Football Jones]

In short, I believe it's a virtual lock Nance gets a chance to show what he can do if they don't make a move. Starks isn't eligible to come off the PUP for several weeks & probably needs practice time to get his game legs under him, if he's even healthy enough to play.

I know Grant came out of nowhere but that doesn't mean that because the Packers caught lightning in a bottle once they can do it again. I did some research on Nance and he just doesn't look that good at all. He is a guy who played a full college career without injury but simply wasn't very good at the college level. He didn't do anything significant in his 4 years at Arizona State. In his senior year (his best year) he had 795 yards rushing in 12 games and he started in 11 of those games. He averaged 4.2 yards per carry and his long on the season was 35 yards that was with 188 carries.He appearently struggled pretty bad in practice last week and that was why he was deactivated. He had 21 carries in the preseason with Atlanta for a whopping 51 yards and his long run was 9 yards. The guy doesn't seem to have any breakaway speed at all. They might give him a few looks this week but don't expect much.

I can pretty much tell you Nance is a better prospect than his college career would indicate. Just the simple fact the Packers went out & chose him out of all the practice squad RBs in the league shows you something. There are some pretty good players on NFL practice squads, especially at RB, as evidenced by LeGarrette Blount & others. Not only that, I believe somebody with Green Bay described him as having a "strong lower half, explosive," etc.As far as Starks, I'm not saying he won't return to 100% this season, but he very well may need practice time & all that. This guy hasn't played in a long time. This is a fluid situation, but unless the Pack go get somebody, Nance is going to get a shot. He likely struggled in practice last week because he doesn't fully understand the playbook. Sounds like he's going to get some PT this week, though (according to reports).I think he's worth a roster spot based solely on getting a crack at it. It's not like he's got a ton of competition, either.

 

[Phase of the Game]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

Another example of you writing something that makes no sense and I see you have yet to explain why you think Starks is headed to IR.

 

[Eric Stratton]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

writing him off and saying it highly improbable of producing are the same thing

 

[sho nuff]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

you still havent given a legitmate reason as to why

No football for a year and a half? Which has been mentioned quite a bit.

 

[sho nuff]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

Another example of you writing something that makes no sense and I see you have yet to explain why you think Starks is headed to IR.

it doesn't make sense that a guy who has not played a game of football in a year and a half is improbable to contribute this year? Hmmm...ok. IR to keep him with the team and not risk losing him if they try putting him on the practice squad.

 

[sho nuff]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

writing him off and saying it highly improbable of producing are the same thing

Writing him off completely is saying its not going to happen...no way no how.That's not what most are saying.

 

[Phase of the Game]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

Another example of you writing something that makes no sense and I see you have yet to explain why you think Starks is headed to IR.

it doesn't make sense that a guy who has not played a game of football in a year and a half is improbable to contribute this year? Hmmm...ok. IR to keep him with the team and not risk losing him if they try putting him on the practice squad.

You are a piece of work......you claim people aren't totally writing Starks off...it's just highly improbable that he can contribute. Do you not realize that is the same thing. For example....try this sentence...."Person A is writing Starks off this year because it is highly improbable he can contribute this year since he hasn't played football in 18 months".

 

[Phase of the Game]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

writing him off and saying it highly improbable of producing are the same thing

Writing him off completely is saying its not going to happen...no way no how.That's not what most are saying.

Your double speak is out of control!

 

[Phase of the Game]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

Another example of you writing something that makes no sense and I see you have yet to explain why you think Starks is headed to IR.

IR to keep him with the team and not risk losing him if they try putting him on the practice squad.

They are not going to IR him

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Does no one think that given how poorly BJax has played in Grant's absence, and the need for a strong physical runner with such a weak O-line, that Starks might not be given a shot at splitting carries if not the starting gig around week 10-11. This would give him around a month to practice and get acquainted, meriting that he is fully recovered from his hamstrings problem. Basically, I'm trying to get a feel as to if people think hes worth a FA pickup around week 7 if he doesn't get IR'd, and what his upside is for the end of the season/ FF playoffs.

EDIT: He is also apparently running at full speed

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/39357351/sports/player_news

From what I read his not a strong physical runner. He is skinny and is an injury waiting to happen. He hasn't played competitive football since 2008. He missed training camp, the preseason and hasn't even practised with the Pack. There is more to be a running back in the NFL than running full speed. Can't see how he can contribute this year. Give him a full training camp and preseason and see how he looks but throw him out to the wolves in the middle of a NFL season? Not going to happen. The Pack aren't that desperate.

fwiw

Coach Mike McCarthy expressed faith in Brandon Jackson and John Kuhn Tuesday, saying he thought the Packers' run production was "a positive" in Monday night's game.

"I like our running backs," insisted McCarthy. "We're going to use them accordingly. I'm not trying to sell something that's not true." The Packers aren't the type of team to make a panic trade for a veteran, but the position is going to have to be addressed sooner or later. Jackson is averaging just 2.9 yards on 36 carries. Perhaps Ryan Grant wasn't just an "ordinary talent" after all.

 

[sho nuff]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

Another example of you writing something that makes no sense and I see you have yet to explain why you think Starks is headed to IR.

it doesn't make sense that a guy who has not played a game of football in a year and a half is improbable to contribute this year? Hmmm...ok. IR to keep him with the team and not risk losing him if they try putting him on the practice squad.

You are a piece of work......you claim people aren't totally writing Starks off...it's just highly improbable that he can contribute. Do you not realize that is the same thing. For example....try this sentence...."Person A is writing Starks off this year because it is highly improbable he can contribute this year since he hasn't played football in 18 months".

Only its not the same thing. And I have said that its improbable. But to you...that did not make sense.

 

[sho nuff]

I have said it before and I will say it again....If Samkon Gado can come out of nowhere to produce for the Packers I don't see why Starks should be written off already this season.

I don't think many are saying to totally write him off...its just highly improbable.

writing him off and saying it highly improbable of producing are the same thing

Writing him off completely is saying its not going to happen...no way no how.That's not what most are saying.

Your double speak is out of control!

There is no double speak in there...sorry you can't handle it.