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This will be the most exciting thing that's happened to the Raiders since Ray Guy kicked the ball out of bounds at the 5 yard line.Except that the Raiders will only get three or four kickoffs per game.
#6 scoring offense last season, with all offensive pieces returning this year. This league changes fast, bud. Try to keep up.
Speaking to the perspective of a niner fan, that's a lot to ask.
I know exactly what you mean, and I don't necessarily disagree. However, for every guy who gets tackled at the 12, another one may return it to the 42. I'll take the guy who will almost guarantee the other team has to go 80 yards every time.
For those who may not have seen Oakland's first preseason game, he DID kick it through the uprights on one of the kickoffs.Silly.
Zach Miller is not an offensive piece?
More kickers can. But Janikowski will do it on the regular. Spinning this as anything other than an advantage for the Raiders is incorrect.Wouldnt moving the kickoff in 5 yds make Seabass less valuable since more kickers can reach the endzone now?
Of course this will make things safer. The new rule will result in far fewer returns. Far fewer returns equals far fewer injuries on special teams.
No, you're wrong. Moving the kickoffs up off-sets the advantage that Janikowski's stronger leg gave him over most other kickers. Now his strong leg is negated, as his kickoffs will go through the endzone (still just a touchback), while the other kicker's kickoffs that would have been caught at the 5, 4, 3, 2, or 1 yard line will be likely to result in a touchback.More kickers can. But Janikowski will do it on the regular. Spinning this as anything other than an advantage for the Raiders is incorrect.Wouldnt moving the kickoff in 5 yds make Seabass less valuable since more kickers can reach the endzone now?
No, you're wrong. Moving the kickoffs up off-sets the advantage that Janikowski's stronger leg gave him over most other kickers. Now his strong leg is negated, as his kickoffs will go through the endzone (still just a touchback), while the other kicker's kickoffs that would have been caught at the 5, 4, 3, 2, or 1 yard line will be likely to result in a touchback.More kickers can. But Janikowski will do it on the regular. Spinning this as anything other than an advantage for the Raiders is incorrect.Wouldnt moving the kickoff in 5 yds make Seabass less valuable since more kickers can reach the endzone now?
Janikowski had just 29 touchbacks on 93 kickoffs in 2010, which is a 31.2% rate.
The board's Niner fans would be amused to hear me described as one of them.Wanna bet that the team runs for 4.9 yards per carry again? They were 23rd in passing offense.
Zach MillerRobert Gallery?You're right. Offensive Juggernaut.
Gallery was just another guy. Losing Miller hurts, clearly.
Kickers will learn that higher hang time means that their guys can reach a returner inside the 10 consistently. We will see by mid season many kickers trying to pin a team deep on kickoffs through high hang time. This will lead to the same number of collisions and worse field position.
So did Graham Gano. Any big leg kicker is going to get some of those.
I thought I heard they only had two returning offensive linemen. Either way, sounds like LawFitz is the one who needs to keep up.
The Raiders kicked the ball off on avg 4.75 times per game last season without including kickoffs to open halves.The most important offensive pieces in order were:
This was my first reaction, too. And I think it supports the claim that Janikowski gains value.
I would assume the idea is that gaining 5 yards on your kicks isn't equally valuable for everyone.If you have a guy that was typically kicking it to the 5 yard line then it doesn't make that big of a difference since guys will run it back from the goaline anyway. If you have a guy that typically kicked it to the goaline then it makes a bigger difference because 5 yards deep in the endzone is almost always a touchback.
there's diminishing returns here though. at some point, you can't gain any advantage by kicking it farther than everyone else.kicking it through the uprights isn't really much of an advantage if half of the league's kickers can kick it to the goalline or beyond.I don't know what the stats on touchbacks are, but it seems likely that he might go from being one of the top 2 or 3 kickers in terms of touchbacks to being one of the top 10 or so. That would indicate that his relative value has decreased as a result of the rule change.
so is he going to beat out Cundiff this year? safe to book it?
Sure.'Aaron Rudnicki said:
plenty of teams have done this already.Bills used to employ Brad Daluiso with Scott Norwood back in the Super Bowl days.
Seems especially important now. I'm sure there will still be some kickers who can't reach the end zone even from the 35.
why would it be more important now? they used to kickoff from the 35 before 1994.I don't really understand the logic you're using in this thread.
Let's step out of the world of fantasy football and pretend for a second that meaningless stats like kickoff touchbacks mattered. Now consider games going into the 4th quarter and a team that has just scored and has a FG or less lead inside 2 minutes is kicking off. To force the other team have to go at least 50 yards for a reasonable shot at a FG is nice. Very nice. A good DC can gameplan around that advantage. No last minute drama and cheap come from behind wins on sloppy kick coverage. I think anyone who has a strong footed kicker has a key strategial advantage.
Strategial? I didn't know George W. Bush used footballguys.Yes, it is better to boot it into the end zone than to have someone return it. This is not news. It is also a relatively minor effect on the overall game.
Let's use Jason Hanson as an example.In 1993, kicking off from the 35, 59% of his kickoffs resulted in a touchback.
two things:1st. ridiculously huge advantage? compared to what?
You obviously don't know any Raider fans in real life. These clowns will be engraving rings next week.
Compared, obviously, to allowing the opposing team to get a big return. Even if it's not a "big" return, wouldn't you agree that MOST times a kickoff is returned, the drive starts beyond the 20?
I don't think your question, as stated, is a fair one.Daluiso wasn't merely "one of 17 kickers to have 15 touchbacks"... he had 39 touchbacks! SeaBass and Cundiff will provide similar advantages.
Something about my post obviously amused you. Please elaborate.
