What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Jared Cook's value in PPR dynasty leagues (1 Viewer)

JohnnyU said:
Toads said:
We will see I guess. Yes, I'm over valuing Cook at the present, but we both know what I'm talking about :lmao:
Oh No....another Jennings (like) thread.Hope you own these guys in every League your in.....somehow, I think your stuck with them, for better or worse, after announcing your fascinations publicly.Any other players you are high on, that aren't rostered yet? :popcorn:
Sounds like you're trying to be snotty about this, but for your information, owning backup RBs like Jennings is mostly a cheap investment. No skin off my back if he never amounts to anything. I do think he's the backup to MJD, not Karim, who you are probably pimping. As far as Cook goes I own him in 3 of 8 dynasty leagues. I like him for the future, but again, I'm not heavily invested either way. Hope that helps.
Still worth a 1st rounder?
 
JohnnyU said:
Toads said:
We will see I guess. Yes, I'm over valuing Cook at the present, but we both know what I'm talking about :thumbup:
Oh No....another Jennings (like) thread.Hope you own these guys in every League your in.....somehow, I think your stuck with them, for better or worse, after announcing your fascinations publicly.Any other players you are high on, that aren't rostered yet? :thumbup:
Sounds like you're trying to be snotty about this, but for your information, owning backup RBs like Jennings is mostly a cheap investment. No skin off my back if he never amounts to anything. I do think he's the backup to MJD, not Karim, who you are probably pimping. As far as Cook goes I own him in 3 of 8 dynasty leagues. I like him for the future, but again, I'm not heavily invested either way. Hope that helps.
Still worth a 1st rounder?
I think he has a good chance to be worth a 1st rounder in the future. No, he's not worth a 1st rounder now, but I also don't believe owners should trade him for a 2nd either. I still stand by that point.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
JohnnyU said:
As far as Cook goes I own him in 3 of 8 dynasty leagues. I like him for the future, but again, I'm not heavily invested either way. Hope that helps.
Didn't you use first round rookie picks on Cook? In multiple leagues? Correct me if i'm wrong about that. Assuming those are money leagues, I'd wager that you are the most invested person on the planet in Jared Cook. Considering he went in rounds 3 and 4 of my rookie drafts I'd say 1st round in money league would qualify as invested heavily.
 
JohnnyU said:
As far as Cook goes I own him in 3 of 8 dynasty leagues. I like him for the future, but again, I'm not heavily invested either way. Hope that helps.
Didn't you use first round rookie picks on Cook? In multiple leagues? Correct me if i'm wrong about that. Assuming those are money leagues, I'd wager that you are the most invested person on the planet in Jared Cook. Considering he went in rounds 3 and 4 of my rookie drafts I'd say 1st round in money league would qualify as invested heavily.
Blasphemy! Buy-in cost never matters, only number of shares!
 
JohnnyU said:
As far as Cook goes I own him in 3 of 8 dynasty leagues. I like him for the future, but again, I'm not heavily invested either way. Hope that helps.
Didn't you use first round rookie picks on Cook? In multiple leagues? Correct me if i'm wrong about that. Assuming those are money leagues, I'd wager that you are the most invested person on the planet in Jared Cook. Considering he went in rounds 3 and 4 of my rookie drafts I'd say 1st round in money league would qualify as invested heavily.
Blasphemy! Buy-in cost never matters, only number of shares!
No, I didn't take Cook in the 1st round in any league. Like I said I only own him in 3 leagues, but I did own him in more. Here's what I have/had invested in Cook. Not that big of an investment at all.Champagne Classic - 2.01Fantasy Legends II - 2.08Fantasy Legends III - 2.04HyperActive 1 - 2.01HyperActive III - 2.03Cook went in the 2nd rd in most rookie drafts, not 3rd or 4th, but I guess he could have went that low in some drafts, especially shallow leagues.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This thread reminds me of the guy I just tried to trade with in my dyansty league. I am looking for a half way decent back up with a little upside and I own Brandon Marshall so I reached out to the Chad Henne owner. He took him in 2008 at pick 49 in our rookie draft which is a late 5th rounder for our league.

I figured he did a little something so I need to offer a 3rd rounder for him.

His response. "Henne has massive potential and he will be worth a 1st rounder in a few years so I will need to get that to trade him"

I drafted Cook in my draft masters league last year along with Witten. I ended up losing the title by 13 pts and I had the following RB's on this team.

M-Drew, Ray Rice, Mendenhall, Charles and Maroney.

I can personally thank Cook and his 9 receptions for 74 yards for an entire season.

 
Multiple Scores said:
(Rotoworld) Titans second-year TE Jared Cook is reportedly struggling with consistency during Organized Team Activities.Analysis: Cook reportedly tends to flash in practices, but has too many drops. The No. 89 overall pick in last year's draft faces an uphill battle for regular snaps entering his second season. He's only a prospect for dynasty leagues.
I only own Cook in a couple leagues so I'm pretty neutral on him, but as far as I can tell the update above, and a slew of similar 'news' stories, was based on ONE bad drop in a single practice that followed on the March comments about inconsistency from his coach. I could be wrong, but IIRC the article that update linked to was practice report from a beat reporter that mentioned ONE drop.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This thread reminds me of the guy I just tried to trade with in my dyansty league. I am looking for a half way decent back up with a little upside and I own Brandon Marshall so I reached out to the Chad Henne owner. He took him in 2008 at pick 49 in our rookie draft which is a late 5th rounder for our league.I figured he did a little something so I need to offer a 3rd rounder for him.His response. "Henne has massive potential and he will be worth a 1st rounder in a few years so I will need to get that to trade him"I drafted Cook in my draft masters league last year along with Witten. I ended up losing the title by 13 pts and I had the following RB's on this team.M-Drew, Ray Rice, Mendenhall, Charles and Maroney.I can personally thank Cook and his 9 receptions for 74 yards for an entire season.
It's no secret TEs and WRs sometimes need time to develop. That's especially true for TEs. Cook was a rookie last year who had a monster preseason, then got hurt. He may not even do anything this year as well. Dynasty = patience, but always consider a good offer when you get it.
 
JohnnyU said:
Toads said:
We will see I guess. Yes, I'm over valuing Cook at the present, but we both know what I'm talking about :wolf:
Oh No....another Jennings (like) thread.Hope you own these guys in every League your in.....somehow, I think your stuck with them, for better or worse, after announcing your fascinations publicly.

Any other players you are high on, that aren't rostered yet?

:rolleyes:
Sounds like you're trying to be snotty about this, but for your information, owning backup RBs like Jennings is mostly a cheap investment. No skin off my back if he never amounts to anything. I do think he's the backup to MJD, not Karim, who you are probably pimping. As far as Cook goes I own him in 3 of 8 dynasty leagues. I like him for the future, but again, I'm not heavily invested either way. Hope that helps.
Still worth a 1st rounder?
never was IMO... you could get Witten for a 1st. TEs are usually sold cheaper than they should be because your usually only required 1.
 
JohnnyU said:
Toads said:
We will see I guess. Yes, I'm over valuing Cook at the present, but we both know what I'm talking about :wolf:
Oh No....another Jennings (like) thread.Hope you own these guys in every League your in.....somehow, I think your stuck with them, for better or worse, after announcing your fascinations publicly.

Any other players you are high on, that aren't rostered yet?

:rolleyes:
Sounds like you're trying to be snotty about this, but for your information, owning backup RBs like Jennings is mostly a cheap investment. No skin off my back if he never amounts to anything. I do think he's the backup to MJD, not Karim, who you are probably pimping. As far as Cook goes I own him in 3 of 8 dynasty leagues. I like him for the future, but again, I'm not heavily invested either way. Hope that helps.
Still worth a 1st rounder?
never was IMO... you could get Witten for a 1st. TEs are usually sold cheaper than they should be because your usually only required 1.
No, he's not worth a 1st (right now), but I wouldn't advise trading him for a 2nd either. I guess you could say he's a hold unless you get a good deal, which could be in a package deal.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
He isn't worth a 7th round pick right now what in the heck is he doing ? Let me tell you he is doing NOTHING.

I wasted my 22nd round start up pick on this guy.

1.75 pts in 3 games combined and this is PPR x 1.25 for a TE per catch

1st round pick ? got to be kidding me thinking he was worth a 1st round pick.

Sounds like a guy who told me Devin Thomas was worth a 1st round pick this year when I offered him a 4th round pick he laughed and said Thomas was worth a 1st.

 
He isn't worth a 7th round pick right now what in the heck is he doing ? Let me tell you he is doing NOTHING.

I wasted my 22nd round start up pick on this guy.

1.75 pts in 3 games combined and this is PPR x 1.25 for a TE per catch

1st round pick ? got to be kidding me thinking he was worth a 1st round pick.

Sounds like a guy who told me Devin Thomas was worth a 1st round pick this year when I offered him a 4th round pick he laughed and said Thomas was worth a 1st.
We all make mistakes. Also, the book isn't written on Cook or Thomas yet. Both are only 23. Shall we talk about those I was right on :loco: ? Hakeem Nicks, DeSean Jackson, JerMichael Finley, and now Jahvid Best......etc....etc. How about bums like Malcom Kelly and James Hardy? I didn't think so.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Is Cook still a hold? Or is it time to cut bait? It seems as though his learning curve has been very slow, even for a TE.

 
Is Cook still a hold? Or is it time to cut bait? It seems as though his learning curve has been very slow, even for a TE.
The OP has cut him in a league that has a roster limit of 24, so obviously not a hold there. One of my other leagues has a roster limit of 30 and if he hit the waiver wire I would probably pick him up (although I have little depth at the TE position).
 
Is Cook still a hold? Or is it time to cut bait? It seems as though his learning curve has been very slow, even for a TE.
I still have him in one league and it is getting tougher to hold. I'll give him a few more weeks maybe to see if he can work himself into the offense at all, but boy has he been nothing short of a ginormous bust so far.
 
He's worth holding if you have space. He was considered very raw coming out of college, and this is really his first year by default. If you were expecting more out of him this year, sorry. Should have been undrafted in redrafts.

 
He's worth holding if you have space. He was considered very raw coming out of college, and this is really his first year by default. If you were expecting more out of him this year, sorry. Should have been undrafted in redrafts.
I wish I could trade him right now for a 2nd round pick but since I can't I will hold on him and wait and pray
 
CBS - Titans TE Bo Scaife (groin) didn't practice again on Thursday after missing Wednesday's session. "We'll see how everybody is (Friday)," coach Jeff Fisher said. "I would expect most everybody to practice." Scaife and the Titans are preparing for Week 7 against the Eagles. The Eagles are allowing TEs to average 9.0 Fantasy points per week and have given up four touchdowns over their last three games.

As one still holding Cook and with the MASH unit the NFL has been this year, I'm hoping Cook gets the nod this weekend.

 
Like a few others I have been waiting patiently for Jared to break out in 2010. So far we haven't seen it and with the addition of Moss who knows what that will mean for their TE's. One positive is he did have two targets last game and hauled in a pass for 36 yds.

Tight end Jared Cook continued to tease Titans fans on Sunday, showing his talents on one play and dropping a catchable ball on another.Cook made just his third catch of the season during the first quarter against San Diego, cruising 36 yards up the right side on a third-and-four play. That put Tennessee at the San Diego 29, and the Titans kicked a field goal seven plays later.But Cook had a chance to make an even bigger play early in the second quarter, when he got behind the secondary. Vince Young’s pass was underthrown but the ball still hit Cook in the hands. Unfortunately for the Titans, Cook dropped the pass, a scenario the team sees in practice too often.“It’s a hard catch considering the angle, and he’s looking over one shoulder and (he was) spun around and was going to the ground and was distracted,” Fisher said. “But you like to see him make that catch. It’s good to get him involved and we’ll continue to do so.“I think from a package standpoint, we’ve had it in. Mike (Heimerdinger) is doing his best to get everyone involved, but it was good to see him make that play. It was also good to see him run by the corner on the long ball.”
Is he a good buy low for dynasty leagues with Taxi Squads?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Like a few others I have been waiting patiently for Jared to break out in 2010. So far we haven't seen it and with the addition of Moss who knows what that will mean for their TE's. One positive is he did have two targets last game and hauled in a pass for 36 yds.

Tight end Jared Cook continued to tease Titans fans on Sunday, showing his talents on one play and dropping a catchable ball on another.Cook made just his third catch of the season during the first quarter against San Diego, cruising 36 yards up the right side on a third-and-four play. That put Tennessee at the San Diego 29, and the Titans kicked a field goal seven plays later.But Cook had a chance to make an even bigger play early in the second quarter, when he got behind the secondary. Vince Young’s pass was underthrown but the ball still hit Cook in the hands. Unfortunately for the Titans, Cook dropped the pass, a scenario the team sees in practice too often.“It’s a hard catch considering the angle, and he’s looking over one shoulder and (he was) spun around and was going to the ground and was distracted,” Fisher said. “But you like to see him make that catch. It’s good to get him involved and we’ll continue to do so.“I think from a package standpoint, we’ve had it in. Mike (Heimerdinger) is doing his best to get everyone involved, but it was good to see him make that play. It was also good to see him run by the corner on the long ball.”
Is he a good buy low for dynasty leagues with Taxi Squads?
When he was at South Carolina he was a guy that really had to "heat up" sometimes to be effective. He does have not outstanding hands more like good hands. If he was in a situation like Aaron Hernandez where the team was really throwing the ball around and they could stomach a dropped pass ot two (like with Hernandez) to take advantage of the physical mismatch he creates he could really be a fine NFL player. In TEN where the TE plays a more traditional role - I don't think he really is going to do a thing.The thing I remember the most was him breaking free on a long post play late in the game against Auburn (they were in the Top 5 at the time), wide open in the end zone, everyone in the stadium sees the play, ball in the air, place is going to erupt, Gamecocks take the lead, hits him in the numbers and the ball is on the ground, game over. Gamecocks blow it again.
 
This kid is so talented, but sometimes it's a process. That said, I believe Cook could've been doing this type of thing earlier in the season. Who knows what will happen next week, but they've GOT to get make Cook their starting TE next season & get him involved in the offense.

A TE doesn't have to be a great blocker to help an offense. You see the troubles these top receiving TEs can cause a defense. Guys just like Cook who aren't great blockers, but tremendous receivers. And remember, like the WR position, TEs can take awhile to develop.

Cook reminds me of Jermichael Finley. He's going to be a stud FF TE in time, IMO.

 
I still have him in so many dynasty leagues. 3 year plan. Next year is year 3 and he will be a starter IMO. He finally is getting it.

 
I think people are warming up to Cook ;) I think he carries late 1st rd pick value in rookie drafts for sure.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I think people are warming up to Cook ;) I think he carries late 1st rd pick value in rookie drafts for sure.
Find me an owner will to pay a 1st round pick for him right now. Find me one...let alone thinking the majority of owners would.Let's not get carried away.
 
He isn't worth a 7th round pick right now what in the heck is he doing ? Let me tell you he is doing NOTHING.

I wasted my 22nd round start up pick on this guy.

1.75 pts in 3 games combined and this is PPR x 1.25 for a TE per catch

1st round pick ? got to be kidding me thinking he was worth a 1st round pick.

Sounds like a guy who told me Devin Thomas was worth a 1st round pick this year when I offered him a 4th round pick he laughed and said Thomas was worth a 1st.
We all make mistakes. Also, the book isn't written on Cook or Thomas yet. Both are only 23. Shall we talk about those I was right on :loco: ? Hakeem Nicks, DeSean Jackson, JerMichael Finley, and now Jahvid Best......etc....etc. How about bums like Malcom Kelly and James Hardy? I didn't think so.
Thomas where is he playing now ? You got a few right ? Congrats...but whoopie...I called out Moss in 1998 so what ? Best had a great season last year...for 1 game. I hated Kelly and Hardy myself so what are you doing here giving yourself a pat on the back. Your confusing dude you think your great because you called out a few players that did well a ton of people liked Nicks including myself. I loved Finely too. So what ?I don't get this post at all.

 
I think people are warming up to Cook ;) I think he carries late 1st rd pick value in rookie drafts for sure.
Assuming you have been holding onto Cook for a couple of years would you sell him now (when it seems like he is finally ready to make a contribution to your fantasy team) for another project (late 1st rd 1.08-1.12)?
 
FWIW...

In a pre-combine startup where TEs get 1.5 PPR and included rookies, Cook went between the 6th and 7th rookie picks.

In a second startup where TEs get 1.25 PPR Cook went between the 13th and 14th rookie pick.

 
I think people are warming up to Cook ;) I think he carries late 1st rd pick value in rookie drafts for sure.
Assuming you have been holding onto Cook for a couple of years would you sell him now (when it seems like he is finally ready to make a contribution to your fantasy team) for another project (late 1st rd 1.08-1.12)?
Yes, that would be foolish unless you are loaded with guys like Finley, Graham, and Gresham. Then it's probably smarter to spread yourself out a little and see if you can help other parts of your team.
 
He isn't worth a 7th round pick right now what in the heck is he doing ? Let me tell you he is doing NOTHING.

I wasted my 22nd round start up pick on this guy.

1.75 pts in 3 games combined and this is PPR x 1.25 for a TE per catch

1st round pick ? got to be kidding me thinking he was worth a 1st round pick.

Sounds like a guy who told me Devin Thomas was worth a 1st round pick this year when I offered him a 4th round pick he laughed and said Thomas was worth a 1st.
We all make mistakes. Also, the book isn't written on Cook or Thomas yet. Both are only 23. Shall we talk about those I was right on :loco: ? Hakeem Nicks, DeSean Jackson, JerMichael Finley, and now Jahvid Best......etc....etc. How about bums like Malcom Kelly and James Hardy? I didn't think so.
Thomas where is he playing now ? You got a few right ? Congrats...but whoopie...I called out Moss in 1998 so what ? Best had a great season last year...for 1 game. I hated Kelly and Hardy myself so what are you doing here giving yourself a pat on the back. Your confusing dude you think your great because you called out a few players that did well a ton of people liked Nicks including myself. I loved Finely too. So what ?I don't get this post at all.
It's what JU/Hoss/etc does.
 
He isn't worth a 7th round pick right now what in the heck is he doing ? Let me tell you he is doing NOTHING.

I wasted my 22nd round start up pick on this guy.

1.75 pts in 3 games combined and this is PPR x 1.25 for a TE per catch

1st round pick ? got to be kidding me thinking he was worth a 1st round pick.

Sounds like a guy who told me Devin Thomas was worth a 1st round pick this year when I offered him a 4th round pick he laughed and said Thomas was worth a 1st.
We all make mistakes. Also, the book isn't written on Cook or Thomas yet. Both are only 23. Shall we talk about those I was right on :loco: ? Hakeem Nicks, DeSean Jackson, JerMichael Finley, and now Jahvid Best......etc....etc. How about bums like Malcom Kelly and James Hardy? I didn't think so.
Thomas where is he playing now ? You got a few right ? Congrats...but whoopie...I called out Moss in 1998 so what ? Best had a great season last year...for 1 game. I hated Kelly and Hardy myself so what are you doing here giving yourself a pat on the back. Your confusing dude you think your great because you called out a few players that did well a ton of people liked Nicks including myself. I loved Finely too. So what ?I don't get this post at all.
Come on dude, chill. It's more about Jared Cook's value than my opinion of him. It's taken awhile but owners are finally warming up to him. He for sure carries a late 1st rd rookie draft grade IMO.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
So if you're weak at TE (I have Watson and Hernandez), and Jared Cook was available on your waiver wire and could be picked up now at any time, would you do so ASAP? I'd probably have to drop one of the following players:

Marion Barber

Bernard Scott

Danario Alexander

Mark Clayton

Ben Watson

 
So if you're weak at TE (I have Watson and Hernandez), and Jared Cook was available on your waiver wire and could be picked up now at any time, would you do so ASAP? I'd probably have to drop one of the following players:Marion BarberBernard ScottDanario AlexanderMark ClaytonBen Watson
Clayton ASAP
 
So if you're weak at TE (I have Watson and Hernandez), and Jared Cook was available on your waiver wire and could be picked up now at any time, would you do so ASAP? I'd probably have to drop one of the following players:Marion BarberBernard ScottDanario AlexanderMark ClaytonBen Watson
Forfeit your #1 pick ASAP, no matter where it is.
 
So if you're weak at TE (I have Watson and Hernandez), and Jared Cook was available on your waiver wire and could be picked up now at any time, would you do so ASAP? I'd probably have to drop one of the following players:Marion BarberBernard ScottDanario AlexanderMark ClaytonBen Watson
Forfeit your #1 pick ASAP, no matter where it is.
That's not what he asked. I could live without Watson and Barber. Alexander can't stay healthy to save his life, so I could do without him too.
 
So if you're weak at TE (I have Watson and Hernandez), and Jared Cook was available on your waiver wire and could be picked up now at any time, would you do so ASAP? I'd probably have to drop one of the following players:Marion BarberBernard ScottDanario AlexanderMark ClaytonBen Watson
Forfeit your #1 pick ASAP, no matter where it is.
That's not what he asked. I could live without Watson and Barber. Alexander can't stay healthy to save his life, so I could do without him too.
:sarcasm:
 
He isn't worth a 7th round pick right now what in the heck is he doing ? Let me tell you he is doing NOTHING.

I wasted my 22nd round start up pick on this guy.

1.75 pts in 3 games combined and this is PPR x 1.25 for a TE per catch

1st round pick ? got to be kidding me thinking he was worth a 1st round pick.

Sounds like a guy who told me Devin Thomas was worth a 1st round pick this year when I offered him a 4th round pick he laughed and said Thomas was worth a 1st.
We all make mistakes. Also, the book isn't written on Cook or Thomas yet. Both are only 23. Shall we talk about those I was right on :loco: ? Hakeem Nicks, DeSean Jackson, JerMichael Finley, and now Jahvid Best......etc....etc. How about bums like Malcom Kelly and James Hardy? I didn't think so.
Thomas where is he playing now ? You got a few right ? Congrats...but whoopie...I called out Moss in 1998 so what ? Best had a great season last year...for 1 game. I hated Kelly and Hardy myself so what are you doing here giving yourself a pat on the back. Your confusing dude you think your great because you called out a few players that did well a ton of people liked Nicks including myself. I loved Finely too. So what ?I don't get this post at all.
Come on dude, chill. It's more about Jared Cook's value than my opinion of him. It's taken awhile but owners are finally warming up to him. He for sure carries a late 1st rd rookie draft grade IMO.
I find this statement hard to believe, or having a hard time coming up with reasons where his value is suddenly going up. Has anyone actually gotten anything for Cook in recent trades? He's been on the wire of my one league all season...
 
I find this statement hard to believe, or having a hard time coming up with reasons where his value is suddenly going up. Has anyone actually gotten anything for Cook in recent trades? He's been on the wire of my one league all season...
That's crazy. Even if he's not worth a 1st, there's no reason he should be on the wire in ANY league where TE's have value.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I find this statement hard to believe, or having a hard time coming up with reasons where his value is suddenly going up. Has anyone actually gotten anything for Cook in recent trades? He's been on the wire of my one league all season...
That's crazy. Even if he's not worth a 1st, there's no reason he should be on the wire in ANY league where TE's have value.
Here's a recent trade I saw in a league involving Cook:Team A gives Cook, 2011 rookie pick 1.9Team B gives 2011 rookie pick 1.7So Cook was worth 2 spots in the rookie draft in that league.
 
I'm warming up to him. They might need to rely on him a lot if Britt never gets his head on straight

 
fwiw.... i was offered the 1.12 for cook in a 16 team league and turned it down... late 1st does seem to be his value in my leagues

 
I traded arguably the best player in the game, Chris Johnson for this year's 1.1, 1.3, James Starks and Jared Cook. I didn't have much depth so it needed to be done otherwise I felt I would be squandering his PPG around a mediocre team. Hard to do for sure but there is a great chance that those draft picks are either stud/stud or stud/good player. Couple that with the fact I like what I saw from both Starks and Cook and there's a better than decent chance one of these guys develops into a really good player.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top