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Jared from Subway got what he deserved (1 Viewer)

So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...
Yeah, the same people that put Hertz right out of business after OJ happened.
Not entirely analogous. O.J. was in movies, had been a star RB, was doing NFL sideline stuff, etc., he was known for more than just being a Hertz spokesman. Jared was known for only one thing before this, which was his association with Subway. Not saying Subway goes out of business, but I think it has at least a short term impact on sales - we will see.

 
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So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...
I suppose the other shoe to drop would be some type of evidence that Subway management knew of Jared's proclivities.
Considering how quickly they dropped him, they had to have known something.
technically, they just suspended him initially. So if he had came up clean, he would've resumed. Now he's truly terminated.
hopefully he will be

 
So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...
Subway had nothing to do with this. Unless someone shows evidence that the company knew and/or tried to cover it up- why? Now, I don't frequent Subway often because their sandwhiches aren't all that good plus the nearest one is owned by really rude people and the two times I went in were both very bad customer service experiences.... but if I did go to Subway a lot, I would not change my behavior because this twisted SOB did things that Subway otherwise had nothing to do with.
Plus, the vast majority of Subways are franchise owned. Why hurt small business owners simply because the company they bought a franchise with had a business relationship with some twisted SOB?
I do question Subway for ever investing in such a ####ty spokesperson.
 
Jared Fogle was just charged with "travel to engage in elicit sexual conduct with minors."

Up to now, the only information in the case was that he allegedly possessed child porn, but the case is far more serious. According to the complaint, between 2010 and 2013, Fogle traveled between Indiana and NYC to engage in sexual acts with minors. The complaint says Fogle paid for sex.

The complaint says in text messages with one of the 14 minor victims, Fogle said he would accept a 16-year-old girl while stating that "the younger the girl, the better."

The complaint says he asked some of the victims to send him pictures of themselves.

The complaint says the child porn authorities found photos and videos of boys and girls. It's unclear the gender of those with whom he had sex.

Part of the case involves images Fogle received from Russell Taylor, the head of Fogle's foundation. According to the complaint, Taylor sent Fogle photos and videos from hidden cameras in Taylor's house, featuring children as young as approximately 6.

Under the plea deal, Fogle agreed to serve at least 5 years in prison and must pay restitution of $1.4 million -- $100,000 per victim. And he must register as a sex offender.

Part of Fogle's punishment ... he can't possess obscene materials, he must participate in a sexual disorders program, can't have unsupervised meetings with minors, and his computers will be subject to random checks.

Fogle turned himself into the FBI today and he's currently being processed.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/08/19/jared-fogle-underage-sex-child-pornography-charges-plea-prison/#ixzz3jGvHh3sJ
I sure hope its much more than 5 years.
Not me. I hope he suffers until he's eligible for parole and then he dies a terrible death at the hands of his fellow prisoners.
So you think an appropriate sentence for having sex with teenage girls is torture and ultimately the death penalty?
You're ### #### right I do

"Fogle said he would accept a 16-year-old girl while stating that "the younger the girl, the better."

He's a sick #### and should be terminated
I have nothing but disgust for what he appears to have done, but that's even a bit extreme for me. Besides, I'm sure he'll get his just deserts in prison.

 
Jared Fogle was just charged with "travel to engage in elicit sexual conduct with minors."

Up to now, the only information in the case was that he allegedly possessed child porn, but the case is far more serious. According to the complaint, between 2010 and 2013, Fogle traveled between Indiana and NYC to engage in sexual acts with minors. The complaint says Fogle paid for sex.

The complaint says in text messages with one of the 14 minor victims, Fogle said he would accept a 16-year-old girl while stating that "the younger the girl, the better."

The complaint says he asked some of the victims to send him pictures of themselves.

The complaint says the child porn authorities found photos and videos of boys and girls. It's unclear the gender of those with whom he had sex.

Part of the case involves images Fogle received from Russell Taylor, the head of Fogle's foundation. According to the complaint, Taylor sent Fogle photos and videos from hidden cameras in Taylor's house, featuring children as young as approximately 6.

Under the plea deal, Fogle agreed to serve at least 5 years in prison and must pay restitution of $1.4 million -- $100,000 per victim. And he must register as a sex offender.

Part of Fogle's punishment ... he can't possess obscene materials, he must participate in a sexual disorders program, can't have unsupervised meetings with minors, and his computers will be subject to random checks.

Fogle turned himself into the FBI today and he's currently being processed.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/08/19/jared-fogle-underage-sex-child-pornography-charges-plea-prison/#ixzz3jGvHh3sJ
I sure hope its much more than 5 years.
Not me. I hope he suffers until he's eligible for parole and then he dies a terrible death at the hands of his fellow prisoners.
So you think an appropriate sentence for having sex with teenage girls is torture and ultimately the death penalty?
Yes.

 
Someone referred to another victim. I wonder what happens when there's not a victim. It seems inevitable that once we get functioning sex robots that some sick ####### is going to create an underage version. How do we police that? Can someone own and have pictures of an underage sex robot. This whole line of thought seems ridiculous but it will definitely happen and I'm not sure how we as a society can deal with something like that.

 
Reading the Criminal Information, I can agree with a lot of what Henry has said about why a deal would be offered. There are multiple allegations in the Information. Some are proffered with more detail than others. The strength of some of the allegations depend on whether the source of the detail is forensic or the word of his ####bag business associate and/or a teenage prostitute. It seems clear that they can prove that he received child porn, some of it featuring very young victims. It seems clear that they can prove that he traveled to New York and had sex with a 17 year old prostitute. But a lot of the most damning allegations may come from witnesses who would be heavily attacked on the stand. The Information itself is silent as to whether they have the texts asking for younger prostitutes or whether they just have the prostitute's testimony about the texts.

So you can see why both sides might want to plead this out. There's no good result for Jared, but there are some results where the most egregious allegations are unproven.

 
So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...
I suppose the other shoe to drop would be some type of evidence that Subway management knew of Jared's proclivities.
Some post upthread (someone posts here who knew of him in college, maybe even acquainted) seem to imply that a vigorous personal background check would've turned up at minimum, a hard consenting-adult pron proclivity.

Then you get into "what's wrong with that?" ... but I dunno. You think Jared gets far with the pitchman gig if he volunteered early on info about his pron collection, the pron lending library he ran in college, etc.
honestly, "male college student has porn collection" is hardly newsworthy.
There was a little more going on that just having a stash of mags and DVDs under the bed. [jimrome] Allegedly [/jimrome]

 
Someone referred to another victim. I wonder what happens when there's not a victim. It seems inevitable that once we get functioning sex robots that some sick ####### is going to create an underage version. How do we police that? Can someone own and have pictures of an underage sex robot. This whole line of thought seems ridiculous but it will definitely happen and I'm not sure how we as a society can deal with something like that.
We've already had a SCOTUS case holding that laws criminalizing the possession of simulated child pornography are unconstitutional.

 
Someone referred to another victim. I wonder what happens when there's not a victim. It seems inevitable that once we get functioning sex robots that some sick ####### is going to create an underage version. How do we police that? Can someone own and have pictures of an underage sex robot. This whole line of thought seems ridiculous but it will definitely happen and I'm not sure how we as a society can deal with something like that.
We've already had a SCOTUS case holding that laws criminalizing the possession of simulated child pornography are unconstitutional.
Interesting - makes sense.

 
Part of the case involves images Fogle received from Russell Taylor, the head of Fogle's foundation. According to the complaint, Taylor sent Fogle photos and videos from hidden cameras in Taylor's house, featuring children as young as approximately 6.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/08/19/jared-fogle-underage-sex-child-pornography-charges-plea-prison/#ixzz3jGvHh3sJ
JESUS

#######

CHRIST

Kill'em both right now.

And only $100K??????????? They missed a digit.

 
Wow, the stuff out of the press conference. I'm a little disturbed they offered a plea deal here. If he wasn't famous he'd be looking at way more time.

Some seriously bad justice here.

 
So the head of his foundation arranged things for Jared? Was the foundation set up for this purpose alone? Hidden cameras at his house were used to show Jared his choices? This sounds like an organized child sex trafficking operation. Like Taken.

 
Well c'mon guys, this dude was a fat f*** for the first 20 years of his life. Of course he had to pay for sex, dude never developed game at a young age when he was a tub of lard. Only girls he got he got cause he had $$$. This shouldn't be totally shocking.

 
Well maybe he will become the new pitchman for the prison "where's the beef" commercial .Or more likely the catcher .Either way, I hope he suffers badly

 
[SIZE=12pt]Fogle traveled to New York City at least twice between 2010 and 2013 seeking sex with minors, and paid for sex acts twice with a girl he knew to be 17 years old. He told the girl he would "make it worth her while" if she could find him another minor to have sex with, "the younger the girl, the better," according to the indictment.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=12pt]Prosecutors said he repeatedly asked prostitutes and others to find him 14- and 15-year-olds for sex.[/SIZE]
I guess the twisted SOB didn't quite have $100K for each victim + losing his lucrative/easy job + losing his wife (half of remaining assets I assume at least) + being hated by the general public as a sicko + 5-12 years in jail + register as a sex offender + 'other conditions' in mind in making it 'worth their while'.

 
There are a lot of people to feel bad for, but man his wife. That has to be awful.
Aside from the direct victims of his predatory sexual actions....

I do feel for his wife. That sucks. BUT, I feel even more so for his children. Now my biological father would never win a father of the year award but damn, how do you reconcile the fact that your father is a sick, twisted pedophile?

I am sure there is more than $1.4 million in his estate and I am sure the wife will walk away with every single penny in assets after this in a divorce court. She can heal and move on much easier than the children.

 
I'm just casually browsing this thread...are people seriously comparing this p o s to O.J?

O.J. lost his mind and killed a couple people in the heat of the moment. I do not excuse that behavior, but molesting children is way, way worse than that. These guys are calculating how to ruin the lives of young children, and by extension, their families for nothing more than their own personal amusement.

I would love to create a television program like 'The Running Man' where dudes like this are hunted for sport by ex-victims of this type of perversion. It would be great, you would probably only have to run it for a few years before people would just decide its not worth the risk.

Win/Win for everyone involved.

 
So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...
Subway had nothing to do with this. Unless someone shows evidence that the company knew and/or tried to cover it up- why? Now, I don't frequent Subway often because their sandwhiches aren't all that good plus the nearest one is owned by really rude people and the two times I went in were both very bad customer service experiences.... but if I did go to Subway a lot, I would not change my behavior because this twisted SOB did things that Subway otherwise had nothing to do with.
Plus, the vast majority of Subways are franchise owned. Why hurt small business owners simply because the company they bought a franchise with had a business relationship with some twisted SOB?
I do question Subway for ever investing in such a ####ty spokesperson.
You gotta remember, things were rather different back then. He started working for Subway in 1999 (first tv commercial aired on Jan 1, 2000) The internet was nothing like it is now. Tabloid media was still relegated to the checkout line at grocery stores. Even if they did know about his pron rental business, at the time, he was just a guy in before and after photos for the company. And slowly they kept using him, and even after the internet and online tabloids started to come about, no one came forth to say "OMG I used to rent porn from him in college!" And even if they did, most people wouldn't care because that was several years ago.

Nowadays, when companies hire people to be their spokesman, they are doing extensive background checks to make sure there isn't anything that could hurt them. Of course, that doesn't help with what the person could do in the future.

 
So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...
Yeah, the same people that put Hertz right out of business after OJ happened.
Hertz the rental car company?

They are still around and doing well.
Ssshhhh, stop confusing people with the facts!

 
I'm just casually browsing this thread...are people seriously comparing this p o s to O.J?

O.J. lost his mind and killed a couple people in the heat of the moment. I do not excuse that behavior, but molesting children is way, way worse than that. These guys are calculating how to ruin the lives of young children, and by extension, their families for nothing more than their own personal amusement.

I would love to create a television program like 'The Running Man' where dudes like this are hunted for sport by ex-victims of this type of perversion. It would be great, you would probably only have to run it for a few years before people would just decide its not worth the risk.

Win/Win for everyone involved.
It's pretty well documented that OJ beat the #### out of Nicole for years.

 
Someone referred to another victim. I wonder what happens when there's not a victim. It seems inevitable that once we get functioning sex robots that some sick ####### is going to create an underage version. How do we police that? Can someone own and have pictures of an underage sex robot. This whole line of thought seems ridiculous but it will definitely happen and I'm not sure how we as a society can deal with something like that.
Do we want to police it? I mean obviously these people are sick, and it seems just as obvious that there will always be a certain percentage of the population that will want to do this. And no amount of prison time or public shame is enough of a deterrent, because they can't help themselves. So would it be kind of ideal to just allow them to buy underage-looking sex robots so they don't victimize actual people?

If someone from 1950 was teleported to the future and read that last sentence, they would assume civilization is just about ready to crumble.

 
I just heard something interesting a few weeks ago. The production of the Bronco stopped exclusively because of the negative relation to the OJ Simpson chase/story.

The Bronco is no more because of OJ. I had never realized that.
So are people going to stop going to Subway over this? My wife thinks so - I think she is crazy. There are lots of reasons not to go to Subway - but I can't imagine this is really one of them...
Yeah, the same people that put Hertz right out of business after OJ happened.
Do they sell broncos anymore?
:lmao: , great question.
Not sure CCC2's source (from Otis' classic cars thread)

 
I'm just casually browsing this thread...are people seriously comparing this p o s to O.J?

O.J. lost his mind and killed a couple people in the heat of the moment. I do not excuse that behavior, but molesting children is way, way worse than that.
Is "sex with a 17-year-old" the same as "molesting children"? I guess it depends on how old the guy is.

 
I'm just casually browsing this thread...are people seriously comparing this p o s to O.J?

O.J. lost his mind and killed a couple people in the heat of the moment. I do not excuse that behavior, but molesting children is way, way worse than that. These guys are calculating how to ruin the lives of young children, and by extension, their families for nothing more than their own personal amusement.

I would love to create a television program like 'The Running Man' where dudes like this are hunted for sport by ex-victims of this type of perversion. It would be great, you would probably only have to run it for a few years before people would just decide its not worth the risk.

Win/Win for everyone involved.
Oh, is that all? He KILLED two people. Until we know all the details, up to now, this guy Jared got off on looking at naked pics and having sex with 16-17 y.o.s for cash. Its possible that the 16/17 y.o.s were consenting. I'm not saying what he did wasn't disgusting and warranting some serious time, but to me, killing someone is worse than what he appears to have done.

 
I'm just casually browsing this thread...are people seriously comparing this p o s to O.J?

O.J. lost his mind and killed a couple people in the heat of the moment. I do not excuse that behavior, but molesting children is way, way worse than that.
Is "sex with a 17-year-old" the same as "molesting children"? I guess it depends on how old the guy is.
It also depends on the state. I'm assuming this wasn't NY as NY's age of consent is (or at least was) 17. I think he must have gone down to 16 if it was NY and/or he did it in other states.

 
I'm just casually browsing this thread...are people seriously comparing this p o s to O.J?

O.J. lost his mind and killed a couple people in the heat of the moment. I do not excuse that behavior, but molesting children is way, way worse than that. These guys are calculating how to ruin the lives of young children, and by extension, their families for nothing more than their own personal amusement.

I would love to create a television program like 'The Running Man' where dudes like this are hunted for sport by ex-victims of this type of perversion. It would be great, you would probably only have to run it for a few years before people would just decide its not worth the risk.

Win/Win for everyone involved.
Oh, is that all? He KILLED two people. Until we know all the details, up to now, this guy Jared got off on looking at naked pics and having sex with 16-17 y.o.s for cash. Its possible that the 16/17 y.o.s were consenting. I'm not saying what he did wasn't disgusting and warranting some serious time, but to me, killing someone is worse than what he appears to have done.
Are we sure none were younger than 16? There were 14 victims and a 16 year old was only mentioned the one time when no one younger was available...allegedily.

 
I'm just casually browsing this thread...are people seriously comparing this p o s to O.J?

O.J. lost his mind and killed a couple people in the heat of the moment. I do not excuse that behavior, but molesting children is way, way worse than that. These guys are calculating how to ruin the lives of young children, and by extension, their families for nothing more than their own personal amusement.

I would love to create a television program like 'The Running Man' where dudes like this are hunted for sport by ex-victims of this type of perversion. It would be great, you would probably only have to run it for a few years before people would just decide its not worth the risk.

Win/Win for everyone involved.
It's pretty well documented that OJ beat the #### out of Nicole for years.
Again, I do not condone wife beating, but beating up an adult who has the capability to get far away if they want to is different than looking at child porn. Little kids do not have the mental capabilities to defend themselves against this kind of crap. In many cases, they are being abused by their own parents or relatives, so they are trapped. They are being put in front of cameras and forced to do unspeakable things. People like Jared perpetuate that by seeking it out and looking at it.

 

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