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Jason Whitlock suggests Chiefs consider trading LJ (1 Viewer)

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No one asked me, but just in case Carl Peterson and Clark Hunt would like to know where I stand: I’d consider trading Larry Johnson rather than handing him a lucrative contract extension.

Seriously. Oh, I respect what Larry Johnson has accomplished the last two years, back-to-back 1,700-yard seasons, consecutive Pro Bowl appearances and 37 touchdowns.

Larry is owed big money. He’s earned it. You could make a pretty strong argument he’s the NFL’s second-best running back after LaDainian Tomlinson.

I just wouldn’t be in a rush to be the general manager or owner who gave L.T.-type money to L.J. And I sure as heck wouldn’t want to be the coach forced to deal with L.J.’s T.O.-like behavior, especially after that behavior gets protected with close to $20 million in guaranteed bonuses.

The Chiefs have a big decision to make this offseason, and there’s no reason we should act as if reworking Larry’s contract way north is a no-brainer. It’s not.

Larry is far from the most popular player in the Chiefs’ locker room with the players. He’s aloof, moody and constantly distracted by his desire to be misunderstood and to be a member of Jay-Z’s posse.

“If they give him a huge contract, they’ll create a monster,” one Chiefs player told me this offseason. “And I told Herm that.”

Johnson, according to another teammate, can be a disruptive force in locker-room chemistry. The team’s most valuable and important player, according to a teammate, oftentimes sits in meetings text messaging friends and associates.

We all know Larry loves to make headlines with tell-all interviews. He went on HBO this season and claimed that it was easier for him to play for a black head coach because Herm Edwards knows what it’s like to, among other things, go to nightclubs in the ’hood.

Larry also finds it easier, I assume, to question the offensive strategy of a black head coach who bends over backward trying to satisfy the ego of his star running back, because L.J. had little trouble throwing Edwards and the coaching staff under the bus after Kansas City’s playoff loss.

Three years ago, when the Chargers made Tomlinson the richest running back in the history of the league with a $60 million contract and $20 million in guaranteed bonuses, here’s what the Chargers’ team president was quoted saying about L.T.:

“LaDainian represents everything you want from a player. He is our role model. Every young player should aspire to be like L.T., the way he carries himself on and off the field. He has demonstrated he can do and will do what it takes to be a winner and to be the best.”

Could Carl Peterson say that about L.J. with a straight face?

No way. (FYI: I attempted to contact Peterson and Edwards on Wednesday. They were both legitimately unavailable. Peterson, I was told, was out of town. Edwards, I was told, spent most of Wednesday in meetings with the scouting department.)

But the reasons to consider trading L.J. go deeper than just the quirks in his personality, deeper than the possibility that he might be the next T.O. or Randy Moss.

Johnson carried the ball an NFL-record 416 times last year. In the history of the league, nine running backs have accumulated 390-plus carries in a season. Only one, Eric Dickerson, continued to ascend after toting the rock that many times. Everyone else faded quickly.

Is L.J. the next Eric Dickerson, a terrific player and locker-room cancer with the Rams, Colts, Raiders and Falcons?

Or is L.J. the next Eddie George, Jamal Anderson, Terrell Davis or James Wilder?

The one thing I really respect about Johnson is his brutal honesty. He doesn’t hide who he wants to be. As soon as the season was over, he high-tailed it to New York to get to work on whatever it is he wants to do with rapper Jay-Z.

I mean, really, there were two certainties when this season ended: Tiki Barber would begin his career as a broadcaster, and Larry Johnson would be in New York working on his street cred and Roc-A-Fella hand signals.

In pursuit of a new contract, some athletes wouldn’t be nearly as truthful as L.J. They would sneak off to New York while telling everyone about their elaborate plans to rest up and begin a new training regime with their own specialist, Bay Bay McWorkout. They might even invite a television crew to tape them while they push a mobile home on a giant treadmill.

L.J. is going to skip the publicity tour. He believes he has all the leverage he needs. Tony Gonzalez will be 31 in a couple of weeks. Trent Green is still woozy. Dante Hall has fallen and can’t get up. Jared Allen is headed to jail.

L.J. is Kansas City’s lone, unblemished, in-his-prime star. Herm Edwards’ whole plan of attack falls apart without a punishing running back.

The Chiefs have to pay Larry Johnson.

No they don’t. Not if another team is willing to offer something resembling fair value (a top-12 draft pick and a defensive starter or wide receiver). You can find and develop young running backs quickly.

Finding, developing and maintaining a Super Bowl-level chemistry is a lot more elusive, especially when you have a potential T.O. or Randy Moss in your locker room.

I’m not saying the Chiefs should trade Larry Johnson. I’m saying they should consider doing it.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/s...ck/16700590.htm

 
Wow! I didn't realize he was such a distraction.

Posted February 15, by Ben MallerDigg this | Add to del.icio.usDiscuss in the Forums | Link For every reason to give RB Larry Johnson the new deal, there’s one for the Chiefs to stand pat. Johnson has three seasons remaining on his contract. A new deal would consume massive salary-cap space for years and hamper the Chiefs’ efforts to rebuild their defense. Johnson’s agent, Alvin Keels, wouldn’t discuss what Johnson is asking for. It’s reasonable to assume they are looking for something similar to the contract LaDainian Tomlinson signed with San Diego in 2004. Tomlinson’s deal guarantees him $21 million and is worth $60 million over eight seasons. About the same time, Washington’s Clinton Portis received an eight-year, $50 million contract.
 
Won't happen, but for once (maybe twice now) I agree with Whitlock.

I'm just not sure they'd get fair value for him. (Vilma! :goodposting: )

 
I glanced at the title of the post and only saw the first few words, and my mind added on the back half:

Jason Whitlock suggests ESPN is racist

Jason Whitlock - gone...

Harold Reynolds - gone...

Michael Irvin - gone...

 
As an LJ owner I wouldn't mind seeing him go to another team before Herm runs him into the ground, don't see it happening tho.

Pipedream: To the Broncos for their #21, Plummer and Ian Gold :yes:

 
As an LJ owner I wouldn't mind seeing him go to another team before Herm runs him into the ground, don't see it happening tho.

Pipedream: To the Broncos for their #21, Plummer and Ian Gold :yes:
You said it. The chances of KC sending LJ to their archrival = my chances of sleeping with Eva Langoria tonight.
 
As an LJ owner I wouldn't mind seeing him go to another team before Herm runs him into the ground, don't see it happening tho.

Pipedream: To the Broncos for their #21, Plummer and Ian Gold :unsure:
You said it. The chances of KC sending LJ to their archrival = my chances of sleeping with Eva Langoria tonight.
*Yawn... stretch...* She wasn't that good. I'll send her your way this afternoon.
 
I know, I know.. But I would venture to say that any trade posted here involving LJ will sound like a cracksmokers fantasy. Well I guess mine is really bad since KC and the Donks are division rivals :unsure:

 
As an LJ owner I wouldn't mind seeing him go to another team before Herm runs him into the ground, don't see it happening tho.

Pipedream: To the Broncos for their #21, Plummer and Ian Gold :unsure:
You said it. The chances of KC sending LJ to their archrival = my chances of sleeping with Eva Langoria tonight.
[lloyd christmas]so you're telling me there's a chance...

[/lloyd christmas]

 
As an LJ owner I wouldn't mind seeing him go to another team before Herm runs him into the ground, don't see it happening tho.

Pipedream: To the Broncos for their #21, Plummer and Ian Gold :banned:
You said it. The chances of KC sending LJ to their archrival = my chances of sleeping with Eva Langoria tonight.
[lloyd christmas]so you're telling me there's a chance...

[/lloyd christmas]
"One a million"..."Yes (pumping fist), so you are telling me there's still a chance!"Classic movie.."What's the soup du jour? uh that would be the soup of the day...ummm, I'll take that"

 
I agree with Whitlock for three reasons.

1. LJ was just run into the ground more than any other back in NFL history in a regular season.

2. LJ IS a malcontent. Between .....

his dislike of his white head coach

his publicly calling out the OC

Saying that Rivers and Gates > Green and Gonzalez

His skirmishes off the field

His being concerned with his clothing line and rappers than most around here like

His saying he doesn't identify with KC people because it is all the "Bush republican crowd"

For all those reasons, most people in this part of the country don't really like rooting for people like that. If LJ were on any other team, I would not root for him, just as I don't root for Terrell Owens.

3. KC already has too many big contracts among Surtain, Law, Gonzalez....plus we are still paying Priest, Shields, Roaf and Green.

Also a quick 4th.....precedent. I think we could get a nice package for him.

 
On the one hand:

what Larry Johnson has accomplished the last two years, back-to-back 1,700-yard seasons, consecutive Pro Bowl appearances and 37 touchdowns
L.J. is Kansas City’s lone, unblemished, in-his-prime star. Herm Edwards’ whole plan of attack falls apart without a punishing running back.
On the other hand:
oftentimes sits in meetings text messaging friends and associates.
aloof, moody and constantly distracted by his desire to be misunderstood and to be a member of Jay-Z’s posse.
If Kansas City is stupid enough to think all that adds up to a good enough reason to trade him, most other teams would love to have him. And many people would laugh out loud.
 
I glanced at the title of the post and only saw the first few words, and my mind added on the back half:Jason Whitlock suggests ESPN is racistJason Whitlock - gone...Harold Reynolds - gone...Michael Irvin - gone...
Rush Limbaugh - gone...Rob Dibble - gone...Trev Alberts - gone...What's your point, again?
 
What did Harold Reynolds do again? Was it worse than Sean Salisbury showing pictures of his genitals to people?
A lot of playful sexual harassment stuff. Basically, he was hitting on chix on the job. Not the worst thing in the world; not the smartest thing, either.He's filed a wrongful termination suit against ESPN. I'm kinda' pulling for him (disclaimer: from what I understand of the situation, which is minimal).ETA: Wow, we got here from LJ-->Whitlock-->ESPN is racist-->No, they're not-->Harold Reynolds. Man, these things take a life of their own sometimes.
 
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It might be the right thing to do and maybe a team like the Patriots, Ravens, or Colts might be able to do it. But not KC.

 
No one asked me, but just in case Carl Peterson and Clark Hunt would like to know where I stand: I’d consider trading Larry Johnson rather than handing him a lucrative contract extension.

Seriously. Oh, I respect what Larry Johnson has accomplished the last two years, back-to-back 1,700-yard seasons, consecutive Pro Bowl appearances and 37 touchdowns.

Larry is owed big money. He’s earned it. You could make a pretty strong argument he’s the NFL’s second-best running back after LaDainian Tomlinson.

I just wouldn’t be in a rush to be the general manager or owner who gave L.T.-type money to L.J. And I sure as heck wouldn’t want to be the coach forced to deal with L.J.’s T.O.-like behavior, especially after that behavior gets protected with close to $20 million in guaranteed bonuses.

The Chiefs have a big decision to make this offseason, and there’s no reason we should act as if reworking Larry’s contract way north is a no-brainer. It’s not.

Larry is far from the most popular player in the Chiefs’ locker room with the players. He’s aloof, moody and constantly distracted by his desire to be misunderstood and to be a member of Jay-Z’s posse.

“If they give him a huge contract, they’ll create a monster,” one Chiefs player told me this offseason. “And I told Herm that.”

Johnson, according to another teammate, can be a disruptive force in locker-room chemistry. The team’s most valuable and important player, according to a teammate, oftentimes sits in meetings text messaging friends and associates.

We all know Larry loves to make headlines with tell-all interviews. He went on HBO this season and claimed that it was easier for him to play for a black head coach because Herm Edwards knows what it’s like to, among other things, go to nightclubs in the ’hood.

Larry also finds it easier, I assume, to question the offensive strategy of a black head coach who bends over backward trying to satisfy the ego of his star running back, because L.J. had little trouble throwing Edwards and the coaching staff under the bus after Kansas City’s playoff loss.

Three years ago, when the Chargers made Tomlinson the richest running back in the history of the league with a $60 million contract and $20 million in guaranteed bonuses, here’s what the Chargers’ team president was quoted saying about L.T.:

“LaDainian represents everything you want from a player. He is our role model. Every young player should aspire to be like L.T., the way he carries himself on and off the field. He has demonstrated he can do and will do what it takes to be a winner and to be the best.”

Could Carl Peterson say that about L.J. with a straight face?

No way. (FYI: I attempted to contact Peterson and Edwards on Wednesday. They were both legitimately unavailable. Peterson, I was told, was out of town. Edwards, I was told, spent most of Wednesday in meetings with the scouting department.)

But the reasons to consider trading L.J. go deeper than just the quirks in his personality, deeper than the possibility that he might be the next T.O. or Randy Moss.

Johnson carried the ball an NFL-record 416 times last year. In the history of the league, nine running backs have accumulated 390-plus carries in a season. Only one, Eric Dickerson, continued to ascend after toting the rock that many times. Everyone else faded quickly.

Is L.J. the next Eric Dickerson, a terrific player and locker-room cancer with the Rams, Colts, Raiders and Falcons?

Or is L.J. the next Eddie George, Jamal Anderson, Terrell Davis or James Wilder?

The one thing I really respect about Johnson is his brutal honesty. He doesn’t hide who he wants to be. As soon as the season was over, he high-tailed it to New York to get to work on whatever it is he wants to do with rapper Jay-Z.

I mean, really, there were two certainties when this season ended: Tiki Barber would begin his career as a broadcaster, and Larry Johnson would be in New York working on his street cred and Roc-A-Fella hand signals.

In pursuit of a new contract, some athletes wouldn’t be nearly as truthful as L.J. They would sneak off to New York while telling everyone about their elaborate plans to rest up and begin a new training regime with their own specialist, Bay Bay McWorkout. They might even invite a television crew to tape them while they push a mobile home on a giant treadmill.

L.J. is going to skip the publicity tour. He believes he has all the leverage he needs. Tony Gonzalez will be 31 in a couple of weeks. Trent Green is still woozy. Dante Hall has fallen and can’t get up. Jared Allen is headed to jail.

L.J. is Kansas City’s lone, unblemished, in-his-prime star. Herm Edwards’ whole plan of attack falls apart without a punishing running back.

The Chiefs have to pay Larry Johnson.

No they don’t. Not if another team is willing to offer something resembling fair value (a top-12 draft pick and a defensive starter or wide receiver). You can find and develop young running backs quickly.

Finding, developing and maintaining a Super Bowl-level chemistry is a lot more elusive, especially when you have a potential T.O. or Randy Moss in your locker room.

I’m not saying the Chiefs should trade Larry Johnson. I’m saying they should consider doing it.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/s...ck/16700590.htm
yeah great idea..trade a guy with a lifetime 4.7 ypc/avg , who ran for 1789 yards last year, AFTER 3 of his O-linemen decided to up-n-leave', i.e., retire, one of whom is a HOF'er..he lost his starting QB on opening day.let those two sentences sink in, before you realize he STILL RUSHED FOR 1789 YARDS!!!! so you show me one RB in the history of the NFL, who lost 3/5ths of his o-line in camp, and his starting QB on opening day, and still rushed for 1789 yards, 4.7 avg, catches 41 passes for 410 yards, and scores 19 total tds..I would like to see just one RB who's accomplished those feats with all that other stuff going on...

jaysus, rb's like him don't drop out of the sky, they don't fall in your lap! trading LJ would be the single dumbest thing KC has ever done, outside of hiring Herm Edwards as HC.

just imagine what LJ is going to do with this o-line, with a few added players to it, in 2007..he should once again, be a beast..just because his TD totals dropped by a grand total of 2 tds, you want to toss him aside like yesterdays newspaper?!

Vermeil screwed with that guys head, he could have started from day 1 in KC, but had HOF'er priest holmes in front of him. He's a brilliant RB! you don't replace a guy like LJ easily..you think you can draft a better RB? sign a better RB in free agency? you think SD is going to let Turner go to KC? haha..

c'mon now..

 

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