Jay Cutler wont vaccinate kids because of autism (1 Viewer)

[Clown Car]

My kids have most of their vaccines. But I haven't given the under 18s the mmr shot. I do not think it causes autism, but I had an auto immune reaction to it when I was 5. Spent 6 months in and out of hospitals. After I had #4 blood work showed I did not have the titers or whatever they are called and got another mmr shot. I have had this weird hive thing ever since. So for the kids, I have waited til they are leaving for college.

 

[datonn]

See, there's a secret plan to put liberal juice in vaccines and inject it into your kids

I KNEW it!

It would be interesting to see the statistics and political affiliations of those who are anti vaccine. I only know one person vehemently against vaccines, and he is a tea bagger, conspiracy theorist, NRA gun apologist, wacko.

According to PEW, 12% of those who describe themselves are very liberal believe vaccines cause autism, while 22% of very conservatives believe such. It is evenly split between parties on those who said they would get flu vaccinations.

Wow...12% of people who believe vaccines cause autism never got their GEDs, and are welfare queens and/or baby-mamas...laying around all day eating cake and drinking Coca Cola instead of looking to support themselves and their 18 kids while their "baby papas" are behind bars or drunk/high in some alley somewhere?! I had no idea...

 

[dickey moe]

I blame science.

 

[DrJ]

See, there's a secret plan to put liberal juice in vaccines and inject it into your kids

I KNEW it!

It would be interesting to see the statistics and political affiliations of those who are anti vaccine. I only know one person vehemently against vaccines, and he is a tea bagger, conspiracy theorist, NRA gun apologist, wacko.

According to PEW, 12% of those who describe themselves are very liberal believe vaccines cause autism, while 22% of very conservatives believe such. It is evenly split between parties on those who said they would get flu vaccinations.

Wow...12% of people who believe vaccines cause autism never got their GEDs, and are welfare queens and/or baby-mamas...laying around all day eating cake and drinking Coca Cola instead of looking to support themselves and their 18 kids while their "baby papas" are behind bars or drunk/high in some alley somewhere?! I had no idea...

You have it backwards. It's 12% of liberals believe vaccines cause autism, not that they make up 12% of the autism fearing population. And it's really not all that surprising. Some of these people believe they can leap tall buildings in a single bound and fear ghosts so they're not all science minded individuals.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Sounds like we have a reason to get around the old "don't root for a player to get injured" rule.

Jay Cutler, you join Ray Rice on the list.

 

[Politician Spock]

See, there's a secret plan to put liberal juice in vaccines and inject it into your kids

I KNEW it!

It would be interesting to see the statistics and political affiliations of those who are anti vaccine. I only know one person vehemently against vaccines, and he is a tea bagger, conspiracy theorist, NRA gun apologist, wacko.

According to PEW, 12% of those who describe themselves are very liberal believe vaccines cause autism, while 22% of very conservatives believe such. It is evenly split between parties on those who said they would get flu vaccinations.

Wow...12% of people who believe vaccines cause autism never got their GEDs, and are welfare queens and/or baby-mamas...laying around all day eating cake and drinking Coca Cola instead of looking to support themselves and their 18 kids while their "baby papas" are behind bars or drunk/high in some alley somewhere?! I had no idea...

You have it backwards. It's 12% of liberals believe vaccines cause autism, not that they make up 12% of the autism fearing population. And it's really not all that surprising. Some of these people believe they can leap tall buildings in a single bound and fear ghosts so they're not all science minded individuals.

Give him some slack on not understanding math.

He was vaccinated.

 

[datonn]

Claiming that vaccinations cause autism is a reckless disregard for the 9th commandment, FWIW.

Religion/Politics aside, I'm a person who believes in letting my body fight disease and infection without medication as much as is possible. I won't even take a Tylenol/Aleve to help with headaches or body aches unless I'm absolutely at my wit's end. That said, when it comes to trusting "science" or trusting the Christian Church in all matters related to health and science? I trust those in the scientific community. And if they say to vaccinate my kids, vaccinate myself, I'll do it. Without trepidation.

People make the mistake (often) of equating God to the church. God <> the church. God is truth, omnipotent, omniscient, etc. The church? Just a bunch of sinful people (like the rest of us) trying to figure it all out, as best they can. But because the church says so doesn't mean that God says so. Which is what makes this whole "science vs. religion" rift in our nation so particularly scary. Religion gets it wrong...a LOT. Science gets it wrong sometimes too, but on these types of issues?! Your average church filled to the brim with parishoners doesn't know as much as even one of the scientists studying these issues at the CDC. Yet millions put their faith in said church/parishoners...because they mistakenly think that said church/parishoners speak for God. When they don't. They're speaking for themselves...their own interpretation of what they *think* God is driving at.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

A race of SuperCutlers is an interesting concept for a TV show. AMC could pair this up with the Walking Dead and just dominate Sundays.

I thought The Walking Dead was already a show about a race of SuperCutlers.

 

[northern exposure]

Do public schools let kids in that aren't vaccinated?

I'd bet a dollar Cutler's kids don't go to public school.

Duh. Did you see the episode of The League called "The Chalupa vs The Cutlet"? That was obviously a oublic school. Next you'll be telling me that wasn't really his kid.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY THEIR CHILDREN YOU #### ###### ######.

 

[Josie Maran]

Do public schools let kids in that aren't vaccinated?

I'd bet a dollar Cutler's kids don't go to public school.

I was asking in general, not about Cutler.

 

[Mr. Cross]

Are bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit and we our made in His image. It is against His will to get vaccines.

 

[Christo]

Are bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit and we our made in His image. It is against His will to get vaccines.

Then why did he create vaccines?

 

[msommer]

Are bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit and we our made in His image. It is against His will to get vaccines.

You should be happy. There will be more room in heaven to go

 

[matuski]

Do public schools let kids in that aren't vaccinated?

I'd bet a dollar Cutler's kids don't go to public school.

I was asking in general, not about Cutler.

Wouldn't let me register 5 year old this year until he was up to date. Texas.

 

[Josie Maran]

Do public schools let kids in that aren't vaccinated?

I'd bet a dollar Cutler's kids don't go to public school.

I was asking in general, not about Cutler.

Wouldn't let me register 5 year old this year until he was up to date. Texas.

 

[jon_mx]

Do public schools let kids in that aren't vaccinated?

I'd bet a dollar Cutler's kids don't go to public school.

I was asking in general, not about Cutler.

Wouldn't let me register 5 year old this year until he was up to date. Texas.

There are ways to opt out.

 

[datonn]

Are bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit and we our made in His image. It is against His will to get vaccines.

You should be happy. There will be more room in heaven to go

I've often told my militant, narrow-minded, judgmental WASPs in my family that if heaven is (only) filled with other militant, narrow-minded, judgmental WASPs, that pretty-much sounds like hell to me. So if that's heaven? Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[jon_mx]

Are bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit and we our made in His image. It is against His will to get vaccines.

You should be happy. There will be more room in heaven to go

I've often told my militant, narrow-minded, judgmental WASPs in my family that if heaven is (only) filled with other militant, narrow-minded, judgmental WASPs, that pretty-much sounds like hell to me. So if that's heaven? Thanks, but no thanks.

I see judgmental and narrow-mindedness runs in the family.

 

[matuski]

Do public schools let kids in that aren't vaccinated?

I'd bet a dollar Cutler's kids don't go to public school.

I was asking in general, not about Cutler.

Wouldn't let me register 5 year old this year until he was up to date. Texas.

There are ways to opt out.

Would have to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic to fill that out.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY THEIR CHILDREN YOU #### ###### ######.

Yea, because the unvaccinated may infect the vaccinated...

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Are bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit and we our made in His image. It is against His will to get vaccines.

Are you asking a question or are you full of ####?

 

[sn0mm1s]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY THEIR CHILDREN YOU #### ###### ######.

Yea, because the unvaccinated may infect the vaccinated...

Yes, it is a possibility. And, as I mentioned earlier, there are very young infants/toddlers that are in the process of getting immunized that are very susceptible to getting these diseases.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY THEIR CHILDREN YOU #### ###### ######.

You shouldn't question Joe T. He knows more than he should.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Claiming that vaccinations cause autism is a reckless disregard for the 9th commandment, FWIW.

Religion/Politics aside, I'm a person who believes in letting my body fight disease and infection without medication as much as is possible. I won't even take a Tylenol/Aleve to help with headaches or body aches unless I'm absolutely at my wit's end. That said, when it comes to trusting "science" or trusting the Christian Church in all matters related to health and science? I trust those in the scientific community. And if they say to vaccinate my kids, vaccinate myself, I'll do it. Without trepidation.

 

[matuski]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY THEIR CHILDREN YOU #### ###### ######.

Yea, because the unvaccinated may infect the vaccinated...

You actually didn't know this was possible...

 

[datonn]

I keep thinking about Mr. Ham and his recent loss of his eight-year old son when I read this thread (breaks my heart, as the father of 11- and 8-year olds). How his son had a classmate who was diagnosed with whooping cough, and even though his son was deemed to not have whooping cough (autopsy inconclusive, as of yet), he was given an antibiotic as a preventative measure. And I'm sure he wasn't alone, related to other children from the infected child's class.

It makes me think about the people around this thread who have said that it's the parents' (and/or their family physician's) decision in whether to vaccinate their kids for diseases such as whooping cough. One kid in Connor's class gets whooping cough...and that news probably has a DIRECT impact on every other kid in that classroom. Every one of their kids' parents...their siblings...their friends and extended family. At minimum worrying about if their child was in close contact with someone who was in close contact with the child who had contracted whooping cough.

It's not just about us. Our actions, however seemingly minor or innocent, have ripple-effects throughout our communities. And specific to freedoms, it's not about what freedoms of ours are being "taken away." It's about our right to not have our own freedoms taken away by the unwise, selfish actions of others. About other people's right not to suffer consequences at the hand of our own unwise, selfish decisions. Everything from choosing to drive home after 1-2 too many beers and buying more house than we can afford, to whether or not we vaccinate our kids.

 

[jhib]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

That's all well and good, but the big reason he's getting slammed here isn't because they aren't getting their kids vaccinated, but because of their reasoning.

Autism shouldn't even be part of the conversation in the individual evaluation you're talking about.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY THEIR CHILDREN YOU #### ###### ######.

Yea, because the unvaccinated may infect the vaccinated...

You actually didn't know this was possible...

at you not understanding the point I was making

 

[mr. furley]

I blame science.

what good has it ever done, really

 

[rockaction]

What's unsuprisingly not bizarre about this are the typical (not a negative connotation) communitarians taking the trad comm stance while the typical individualists are taking the trad individualist stance.

This was discussed by one of the the best historians in recent memory -- he does a great job of balancing communitarian/individualist impulses. I've only read half the book (it's boring as hell, frankly) but I have read his other books and papers. I can't plug him enough, because his topics are surprisingly always relevant in today's environment. I would urge those that are interested in this to check this book. I'm not as interested, so...that's why I can't speak authoritatively. I do know that in a health crisis, the S. Ct. has ruled that people can be forced to inoculate.

Michael Willrich. Pox.

 

[jon_mx]

What's unsuprisingly not bizarre about this are the typical (not a negative connotation) communitarians taking the trad comm stance while the typical individualists are taking the trad individualist stance.

This was discussed by one of the the best historians in recent memory -- he does a great job of balancing communitarian/individualist impulses. I've only read half the book (it's boring as hell, frankly) but I have read his other books and papers. I can't plug him enough, because his topics are surprisingly always relevant in today's environment. I would urge those that are interested in this to check this book. I'm not as interested, so...that's why I can't speak authoritatively. I do know that in a health crisis, the S. Ct. has ruled that people can be forced to inoculate.

Michael Willrich. Pox.

And the balance here has worked well. I don't get all the all caps type. Our immunization program has been very successful without going all authoritarian in doing it. Seems like the best of both worlds. The value people place on freedom seems to be declining.

 

[D_House]

In addition to those kids that are too young to be vaccinated, some others that are also at risk of infection are those with immunodeficiencies, people on immunosuppressives, and people on chemotherapy.

 

[Ilov80s]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

 

[joffer]

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/19/1308169/-One-unvaccinated-child-was-patient-zero-of-a-measles-epidemic?detail=email

 

[shadyridr]

Are bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit and we our made in His image. It is against His will to get vaccines.

what His will on spelling?

 

[jon_mx]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

 

[timschochet]

To be clear, I am not "anti-vaccine."

I am "anti-" individuals who try to parent other peoples children when they could probably be doing a better job parenting their own children. I am anti any notion that "all children should be vaccinated." There are plenty of medical reasons not to vaccinate a child including mitochondrial disorders and other anti-immune disorders. Doctors will not / should not vaccinate a child who is already ill.

Vaccines do way more good than harm, but I think doctors and ultimately parents can do a better job of deciding whether their individual child should be vaccinated and when. Each child's reaction to the side effects of vaccines is different and should be evaluated on an individual basis. People spreading the "every child should be vaccinated myth" are doing a disservice to children.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT ONLY THEIR CHILDREN YOU #### ###### ######.

Yea, because the unvaccinated may infect the vaccinated...

Welcome to the party, CH! Your friends are already here.

 

[Ilov80s]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

The CDC recommends vaccinations, even for infants.

 

[Tom Skerritt]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

Also from the CDC:

We know that a disease that is apparently under control can suddenly return, because we have seen it happen, in countries like Japan, Australia, and Sweden. Here is an example from Japan. In 1974, about 80% of Japanese children were getting pertussis (whooping cough) vaccine. That year there were only 393 cases of whooping cough in the entire country, and not a single pertussis-related death. Then immunization rates began to drop, until only about 10% of children were being vaccinated. In 1979, more than 13,000 people got whooping cough and 41 died. When routine vaccination was resumed, the disease numbers dropped again.

The chances of your child getting a case of measles or chickenpox or whooping cough might be quite low today. But vaccinations are not just for protecting ourselves, and are not just for today. They also protect the people around us (some of whom may be unable to get certain vaccines, or might have failed to respond to a vaccine, or might be susceptible for other reasons). And they also protect our children’s children and their children by keeping diseases that we have almost defeated from making a comeback. What would happen if we stopped vaccinations? We could soon find ourselves battling epidemics of diseases we thought we had conquered decades ago.

 

[flapgreen]

I don't care what Cutler does with his kids.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

I don't care what Cutler does with his kids.

Well, you're 4 pages too late, bub.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

I don't care what Cutler does with his kids.

You should.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

Do the math, genius.

 

[rockaction]

Argh. Head-to-head does nothing with goal differential. It's goals for that ranks ahead of head-to-head. It goes GD, goals for, head-to head, in that order. So...the U.S. has 4, Ghana 3 (I'm assuming Portugal gets eliminated by goal differential with a 4-0 drubbing vs. Germany).

So Portugal essentially plays for pride. This doesn't bode well for a draw with Ghana. We're going to have to outscore Ghana against Germany and keep it close, way my drunk butt figures it.

That draw between Ghana and Germany was a disaster, much like the Canada/Finland OT result was for the U.S.A.

Puck luck!

But QG can do this better than me. Peace.

 

[Politician Spock]

Argh. Head-to-head does nothing with goal differential. It's goals for that ranks ahead of head-to-head. It goes GD, goals for, head-to head, in that order. So...the U.S. has 4, Ghana 3 (I'm assuming Portugal gets eliminated by goal differential with a 4-0 drubbing vs. Germany).

So Portugal essentially plays for pride. This doesn't bode well for a draw with Ghana. We're going to have to outscore Ghana against Germany and keep it close, way my drunk butt figures it.

That draw between Ghana and Germany was a disaster, much like the Canada/Finland OT result was for the U.S.A.

Puck luck!

But QG can do this better than me. Peace.

Wise words here.

/thread

 

[GoFishTN]

I think what rockaction is saying, is that if Cutler vaccinated his kids the USMNT would have won. Commie.

 

[rockaction]

Argh. Head-to-head does nothing with goal differential. It's goals for that ranks ahead of head-to-head. It goes GD, goals for, head-to head, in that order. So...the U.S. has 4, Ghana 3 (I'm assuming Portugal gets eliminated by goal differential with a 4-0 drubbing vs. Germany).

So Portugal essentially plays for pride. This doesn't bode well for a draw with Ghana. We're going to have to outscore Ghana against Germany and keep it close, way my drunk butt figures it.

That draw between Ghana and Germany was a disaster, much like the Canada/Finland OT result was for the U.S.A.

Puck luck!

But QG can do this better than me. Peace.

Wise words here.

/thread

I think what rockaction is saying, is that if Cutler vaccinated his kids the USMNT would have won. Commie.

I do my best work in the most worthwhile threads.

 

[Kal El]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies.