Jay Cutler wont vaccinate kids because of autism (1 Viewer)

[joffer]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies.

Sure thing Jenny. Nice ####

 

[datonn]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

 

[one time]

People should have the ability to choose for themselves.

Schools should also have requirements to get ALL vaccinations to attend. Non-vaccinated should be either home schooled or brought up in schools of only children without prior vaccinations.

Lastly, if someone's unvaccinated child gets a vaccinated child sick, the parent should get brought up on charges. Granted it is impossible to prove, but it would be nice in a perfect world.

And yes, because your vaccinated does not mean you are 100% prevented. Immunity wanes over time and some people's systems don't develop an adequate response to the vaccines no matter how many times they are vaccinated. My titers show I'm not protected from chicken pox (Even though I have had it twice + received multiple upon multiple vaccinations) and another vaccinated disease.

 

[Josie Maran]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

Do the math, genius.

But 30,000 is a lot! Vaccinations should be outlawed!!!

 

[Josie Maran]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies.

Comparing vaccinations to soda. Genius!

 

[one time]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

As someone with a medical background that performs immunizations on a regular basis and has attended multiple classes + lectures, and read lots of vaccination material:

 

[mr. furley]

man, this thread is loaded with crazy people. it's fascinating.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

Apparently neither have you...aside from Infowars or some other mouthbreather blog. Go play on the freeway.

 

[Galileo]

Vaccine ingredient list from the CDC... http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/B/excipient-table-2.pdf

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

That's cute. You still look like a moron for trusting what the scientists tell you instead of doing a little research yourself. Carry on though. It's entertaining watching some of you make donkeys of yourself.

 

[Henry Ford]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

I'm trying to do the math - that's 3900 cases out of how many total vaccinations?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

Apparently neither have you...aside from Infowars or some other mouthbreather blog. Go play on the freeway.

LOL

I don't understand how some of you guys can tie your own shoes in the morning. I'm out of this thread. You crazies can have it.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

Apparently neither have you...aside from Infowars or some other mouthbreather blog. Go play on the freeway.

LOL

I don't understand how some of you guys can tie your own shoes in the morning. I'm out of this thread. You crazies can have it.

And good luck to you and your caregiver on your velcro.

 

[Henry Ford]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

That's cute. You still look like a moron for trusting what the scientists tell you instead of doing a little research yourself. Carry on though. It's entertaining watching some of you make donkeys of yourself.

Oh, wow. Didn't realize you were doing research yourself. How many people are in your study? Is it double blind?

 

[Christo]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

That's cute. You still look like a moron for trusting what the scientists tell you instead of doing a little research yourself. Carry on though. It's entertaining watching some of you make donkeys of yourself.

He looks like a moron? You're saying people who work as cashiers at Wal-Mart or drive a UPS truck 9-5 should just "do a little research" themselves rather than trusting some silly scientists when it comes to vaccinations? Just where do you think they are going to do this research? Set up a little lab in the basement?

 

[mr. furley]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

I'm trying to do the math - that's 3900 cases out of how many total vaccinations?

i believe 4000. so you can understand the dangers here.

 

[Christo]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

Apparently neither have you...aside from Infowars or some other mouthbreather blog. Go play on the freeway.

LOL

I don't understand how some of you guys can tie your own shoes in the morning. I'm out of this thread. You crazies can have it.

Says the guy who wants everyone to do their own vaccine research.

 

[mr. furley]

LOL

I don't understand how some of you guys can tie your own shoes in the morning. I'm out of this thread. You crazies can have it.

Says the guy who wants everyone to do their own vaccine research.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Hey I did some vaccine research:

People that don't need to have their kids vaccinated face a 99.9% chance of being morons.

 

[datonn]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

That's cute. You still look like a moron for trusting what the scientists tell you instead of doing a little research yourself. Carry on though. It's entertaining watching some of you make donkeys of yourself.

You're absolutely right. I went to the doctor last week, to see if I had broken a bone in my arm, and the X-ray technician who reviewed my X-rays said no broken bones, but my doctor said I still needed an MRI to check for strains/tears in my tendon. But what the #### do they know after years of medical school and years of treating patients? I should just order about 50 textbooks and enroll in medical school...since you KNOW "science" isn't to be trusted. Or better yet, my pastor knows this podiatrist who happens to be a Christian, who says it's ALL a lie...the devil's tricks, embedding lies in the images on my x-rays, to punish me for having impure sexual thoughts about women in college. Who am I kidding?! Every day of my life since I turned about 12-13.

Serious question, Ramblin Wreck: who out there do you trust to provide you with truthful information and have our (collective) best interests in mind? You post as if you've conducted years of research every time you've bought *any* items in a grocery store. Or personally baby-sat the petroleum from Canada, to the refineries, to your local gas station to make sure that what's going in your vehicle isn't watered-down or full of rainbow-colored unicorn ####. Why, I'm sure you even conducted background checks and extensive research to make absolutely sure Joe and David aren't misusing your personal information in any way before participating in the FFA! Since, you know, you're ENLIGHTENED...and obviously 18-times smarter and more responsible than the rest of us.

 

[joffer]

Wait, did you know some vaccines have aluminum in them....ALUMINUM!!,!!,!,

They're injecting soda cans into your kids! Wake up sheeple!

 

[datonn]

Wait, did you know some vaccines have aluminum in them....ALUMINUM!!,!!,!,

They're injecting soda cans into your kids! Wake up sheeple!

I heard that while Dear Leader is personally ordering the injecting of "liberal" into our children before they enter school (so they're better prepared to have a successful brainwashing), they also secretly prepare other more-experimental next-gen medications where they inject something called "placebo" into a handful of the participants. Now, I don't know what this "placebo" is...but I can only imagine that it has something to do with turning said recipients gay...so they'll vote Democrat in future elections. I read it on the innerwebs...so it's GOTTA be true!

 

[General Malaise]

Wait, we have a Jenny McCarthy on this board. F me....I thought we were better than this.

 

[Kal El]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies.

Equating a scientific breakthrough that has saved quite literally countless lives to a sugary drink probably isn't the best argument to make. That being said, looking into the ingredient list shows nothing of real concern. The presence of formaldehyde is undesired, but I know it's a good preservative, and is likely in such small doses that there aren't any ill effects.

 

[Mister Martie]

A lot of stupid up in here.

More than a lot. Scary amount of stupid in here

It seems like most of the stupid is coming from you now.

 

[General Malaise]

Anti vaccine parents are on par with those whack job parents that refuse medical treatment for their kids for religious reasons. Courts have ruled unfavorably on the latter....time to take the decision away from the former.

 

[Mister Martie]

LOL

I don't understand how some of you guys can tie your own shoes in the morning. I'm out of this thread. You crazies can have it.

Says the guy who wants everyone to do their own vaccine research.

If there was only a group of professionals who have researched this stuff and could advise us...

 

[timschochet]

Wait, we have a Jenny McCarthy on this board. F me....I thought we were better than this.

Betcha anything he doesn't look like her, though.

 

[peaces]

what's his position regarding insulin?

 

[Henry Ford]

Wait, did you know some vaccines have aluminum in them....ALUMINUM!!,!!,!,

They're injecting soda cans into your kids! Wake up sheeple!

Wait til someone starts talking about propelyne glycol and antifreeze.

 

[Carolina Hustler]

Hey I did some vaccine research:

People that don't need to have their kids vaccinated face a 99.9% chance of being morons.

So what you're saying is, you didn't need to have your kids vaccinated?

 

[Frostillicus]

Outside of a real, serious medical reason not vaccinating your kids is so bizarre. Yes I've researched. I don't get you people.

 

[DrJ]

This thread is becoming horrible.

 

[Eminence]

Look at Cutler, guy has superior genes. His kids are probably gonna be fine. If he has a son, he's probably going to be alto be a Pro Bowler one day.

Why is this even public knowledge? Leave Jay alone.

 

[Nugget]

Is it okay to have some of the vaccines spread out? Should an 8 week old be given 6 shots at the same time? If there is a reaction, how do you know which one caused it?

2 month shot recommendation:

DTaP

Hepatitis B

Hib

PCV

Polio

Rotavirus

 

[Henry Ford]

Is it okay to have some of the vaccines spread out? Should an 8 week old be given 6 shots at the same time? If there is a reaction, how do you know which one caused it?

2 month shot recommendation:

DTaP

Hepatitis B

Hib

PCV

Polio

Rotavirus

Vaccine schedule shifting isn't in remotely the same league as not vaccinating.

 

[jon_mx]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

Do the math, genius.

But 30,000 is a lot! Vaccinations should be outlawed!!!

Considering there are now only a few hundred cases of measles a year, in a selfish way Culter is playing the odds and making the right call.

 

[matuski]

If the vaccines work, you shouldn't have to worry about catching it from someone who was not vaccinated, no?

It's your choice of what to put in your childrens bodies. It's also your responsibility to know what is in it. I understand the concept of vaccines, but when there are known toxins, heavy metals etc. added in them that seemingly have no practical use, they lose credibility in my mind. Of course your doctors won't tell you about that. They don't know, or they don't care.

Doctors will gladly talk to you about it, if you have trust issues with your doc, find another one? Or as you yourself put it, take responsibility yourself to learn:

Vaccine ingredients

Mercury/Thimerosol in vaccines

For Ramblin Wreck.. indeed do your own research.

We have heard from the nuts they don't trust their own doctors, and now the FDA.

So take it from the CDC. This is getting ridiculous.

 

[Henry Ford]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

Do the math, genius.

But 30,000 is a lot! Vaccinations should be outlawed!!!

Considering there are now only a few hundred cases of measles a year, in a selfish way Culter is playing the odds and making the right call.

If there were only one vaccine and only one disease, this might be true.

 

[Zasada]

I came into this thread expecting universal mockery of Cutler for his idiocy, only to find there are some here that agree with him. Wow. I often tell my wife that the guys (and some girls) who frequent this board feel like they're in my peer group -- reasonably well-educated, career folks. Intelligent. Today I'm reminded that there is no IQ test for participation in this forum. Or at least my failure to recognize trolling when it occurs is becoming acute.

 

[jon_mx]

Isn't Vanderbilt supposed to be the smart SEC school?

That's kind of like being the fastest white sprinter.

Christo, what's your take on this vaccination issue?

I don't have kids so I don't care.

Fair enough, I don't have kids and don't care much about anything. However, that doesn't prevent me from thinking about things and forming an intelligent opinion. The anti-science trend here just baffles me.

Nothing anti-science about this. Outside of the fact that a bunch of so called "evolutionists" don't really understand how evolution works.

Where does scientific research suggest we should avoid vaccines because they increase the odds of autism? I'm pretty sure scientific consensus is to vaccinate your kid almost in every case.

About 30,000 cases of adverse reactions to vaccines have been reported annually to the federal government since 1990, with 13% classified as serious, meaning associated with permanent disability, hospitalization, life-threatening illness, or death. According to the CDC, infants (children less than one year old) are at greatest risk for adverse medical events from vaccination including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome.

Do the math, genius.

But 30,000 is a lot! Vaccinations should be outlawed!!!

Considering there are now only a few hundred cases of measles a year, in a selfish way Culter is playing the odds and making the right call.

If there were only one vaccine and only one disease, this might be true.

It might be true still. With each vaccination there reaches a point where the diminishing returns of increasing the compliance rate is exceeded by the negative impact of the side effects. Of course that assumes that almost all other people take the vaccination and your risk of exposure is low. If you increase your exposure by going overseas or something, then you better get your shots.

 

[Freelove]

I came into this thread expecting universal mockery of Cutler for his idiocy, only to find there are some here that agree with him. Wow. I often tell my wife that the guys (and some girls) who frequent this board feel like they're in my peer group -- reasonably well-educated, career folks. Intelligent. Today I'm reminded that there is no IQ test for participation in this forum. Or at least my failure to recognize trolling when it occurs is becoming acute.

The difficulty lies in the fact that the bolded and the italicized go less hand-in-hand than you'd want them to.

The world has a surplus of the former, a surfeit of the latter, and a whole parade of dum-dums who are nonetheless convinced some absolute correlation between the two has made their thoughts worthy of broadcast.

 

[Brony]

I think there should be something in science called the "reindeer effect." I don't know what it would be, but I think it'd be good to hear someone say, "Gentlemen, what we have here is a terrifying example of the reindeer effect."

 

[joffer]

This thread is becoming horrible.

stop posting. it'll get better

 

[Chaka]

There were less than 500 cases of measles last year, and the odds of dying from it are less than 1 in 1000. You have a much better shot at getting lost on a flight leaving Malaysia. Yeah he should probably give his kids the shot, but the risks of either choice is slim to none.

How many of those cases were in vaccinated children?

 

[Chaka]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

That's cute. You still look like a moron for trusting what the scientists tell you instead of doing a little research yourself. Carry on though. It's entertaining watching some of you make donkeys of yourself.

What research are you doing exactly (or reading about)? Where are the double blind, peer reviewed studies that say vaccinations are harmful? I would have no problem with your point except for the fact that the only research you have to support your opinion is completely devoid of any actual research.

What you are doing to form your opinion is reading other peoples opinions and stating them as fact, what the pro vaccination crowd is using to form their opinions is actual peer reviewed scientific research.

How can you not see the difference?

 

[Mr. Cross]

Leviticus:19:19

Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee.

 

[datonn]

Looking at this thread, I simply don't understand how people could say that they want to have their children be subjected to various diseases that should have been eradicated years ago, then act surprised that people think they're not particularly intelligent. I get that not all vaccines are totally effective, but I'd rather have a 20% chance of getting sick than almost 100% if I wasn't vaccinated, and I certainly don't to run the risk of losing my children to an otherwise highly preventable disease.

That's because you obviously haven't done any research into what else is in the vaccines and the effects that stuff can have on children especially when given in close proximity to each other, or else you'd agree with me.

The FDA allows us to sell soda. That doesn't mean that stuff is good for the human body but parents still pour down their own holes and their kids holes like it's water. People who don't agree with me really don't spend much time researching what they put into their bodies or their children's bodies, or else they'd agree with me.

Fixed that for you, Ramblin Wreck. Happy to help!

That's cute. You still look like a moron for trusting what the scientists tell you instead of doing a little research yourself. Carry on though. It's entertaining watching some of you make donkeys of yourself.

What research are you doing exactly (or reading about)? Where are the double blind, peer reviewed studies that say vaccinations are harmful? I would have no problem with your point except for the fact that the only research you have to support your opinion is completely devoid of any actual research.

What you are doing to form your opinion is reading other peoples opinions and stating them as fact, what the pro vaccination crowd is using to form their opinions is actual peer reviewed scientific research.

How can you not see the difference?

Chaka, if Ramblin Wreck is busy spending years personally researching every single thing he puts into his body and/or what his children put into their bodies, even the air he/they breathe, then he's FAR too important/busy, distracted and diversified to understand concepts such as double blind, peer-reviewed studies. I'm surprised he has time to post in this forum at all...since if it were me? Conducting detailed research on everything that my girls, wife and I consume? I'd need about 10,000 clones. And how could I even trust said clones will get it right...since, you know, it wasn't me who compiled the research and formed the opinions?

In all seriousness, what would be great is if people spent a little bit of time researching what they put into their brains. No longer confusing sound bytes, agendas, and opinions as truth. But my faith in humanity is at an all-time low in that regard.

 

[Mr. Cross]

The United States was founded on Christian principals and it is against God's will to vaccine.

 

[ClownCausedChaos2]

Leviticus:19:19

Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee.

Austin 3:16 says I just whooped your ###.