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jeen-yuhs: Kanye West documentary (Netflix, Feb. 16th) (1 Viewer)

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Whether you hate him or love him (I'm going to guess most here hate him), he's still a very intriguing and talented person.  

I read filming started in 2002 when Kanye was just being discovered.... then there was a number of years break (during the VMA's Taylor Swift incident period)...and then filming picked up again in 2016.    It will really show the stark dynamic of how he was always happy, smiling and positive when he first started out and then fast forward to the maniacal and bi-polarish Kanye West we know today.

I'm looking forward to this.

https://youtu.be/X3d5rT7FGLE

 
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I don't hate him, but I am definitely not a fan of his, personally. On my worst days, I think of him as an entitled, self-hyping clown. On my best, I believe he is a deeply troubled individual with mental illness. One thing that doesn't change is that I think he is immensely talented. Like, Mozart-level, genius talented. Mostly, I don't spend a lot of mental real estate on him or his ex-in-laws.

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is one of my all-time favorite albums. I am definitely in to watch a documentary, and see how my opinions change on him as a man and an artist. 

 
I'm not a fan of his (or even the genre) but I'm fascinated by people who have been able to reach his level of stardom and their background. I'll def be watching 

 
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Curious if this is produced by him, or an outside source.

He's a master self promoter...and I'm not interested in buying in to more of that tbh.

 
I don't hate him, but I am definitely not a fan of his, personally. On my worst days, I think of him as an entitled, self-hyping clown. On my best, I believe he is a deeply troubled individual with mental illness. One thing that doesn't change is that I think he is immensely talented. Like, Mozart-level, genius talented. Mostly, I don't spend a lot of mental real estate on him or his ex-in-laws.

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is one of my all-time favorite albums. I am definitely in to watch a documentary, and see how my opinions change on him as a man and an artist. 
This is about where I’m at. 

 
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Judge Smails said:
Not a fan. At all. Zero interest 
I'm sure you're not a fan of Jeffrey Dahmer either, but aren't you interested in seeing how he became who he was?

 
I'm sure you're not a fan of Jeffrey Dahmer either, but aren't you interested in seeing how he became who he was?
A narcissistic #####? Not really. 1.5 on the Offdee scale to me. I get that many people love his music and shoes. I care for his music only less than I do him as a person

 
His gospel album, Jesus is King, is honestly one of my favorite albums of all time.

I will be watching.

 
Was just reading at lunch about the Kanye/Billie Eillish thing where he's threatening on pulling out of Coachella unless Eillish apologizes to Travis Scott.

So dumb. Getting a little tired of his antics.

 
eoMMan said:
Was just reading at lunch about the Kanye/Billie Eillish thing where he's threatening on pulling out of Coachella unless Eillish apologizes to Travis Scott.

So dumb. Getting a little tired of his antics.
A little tired?

 
eoMMan said:
Was just reading at lunch about the Kanye/Billie Eillish thing where he's threatening on pulling out of Coachella unless Eillish apologizes to Travis Scott.

So dumb. Getting a little tired of his antics.
On the one hand, he is showing himself to be a misogynistic jerk again, but on the other hand, he can't stand not seeing his name in the headlines, so between this and the childish feud between him and his soon-to-be ex-wife (who appears to be just as poor of a human being as he is), he is getting what he wants. 

 
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eoMMan said:
Was just reading at lunch about the Kanye/Billie Eillish thing where he's threatening on pulling out of Coachella unless Eillish apologizes to Travis Scott.

So dumb. Getting a little tired of his antics.
Billie's answer was very graceful and high road, especially considering she's the 20 year old in this situation. 

Kanye responded by taking another shot at her, while simultaneously saying Kid Cudi won't be on his next album because he is friends with Pete Davidson.

Incredible talent, incredible tool.

 
massraider said:
Incredible talent, incredible tool
Probably a nice, pithy, four-word summation of the documentary. Perhaps I won't have to watch the doc after all. Good observation, massraider. You just saved me a few hours of time. 

 
im sure i wont watch it and then someday it will be on vice and i will be flipping around and stop on it and not turn it off and then i will watch it that is sort of how i go its like i have the fraudulent moral highground of saying i didnt watch it but then i still saw it bam score one more for the swcer take that to the bank bromigos 

 
So apparently Pete Davidson is "dating" Kim Kardashian and guess who is taking to social media to voice their displeasure.

 
Been watching his meltdown on IG for the last week. Not convinced it’s real, since it’s conveniently putting him back in the headlines before his documentary drops. 

 
So I watched it. I don't want to give away any spoilers, but it's going to be, I think, a three-part trilogy. I enjoyed the first installment. It covered Kanye from his move to New York up through to his signing with Roc-A-Fella Records. I've seen some of the footage from the A&E documentary about "Jesus Walks" but this was entirely new.

It's uncomfortable in spots, and not because he's a train wreck or anything. In fact, he seems like a normal ambitious, young dude thrust into a behind-the-scenes spotlight when what he really wants is to be a headliner, to break it big. You can see where Kanye's confidence in himself is blunted by the hip hop game and his scraping to get signed as a rapper. You can see when he gets animated that he really has something to say about his career, where it's going, and why he should be the next big thing in hip hop. 

It's interesting. It may not be everybody's cup of tea, but I'm a Kanye enthusiast at heart and remember College Dropout really well. I can remember when it was finished, how I'd purchased a copy before its release at a place called The Village in New Britain, a trip of an hour or so I made to get it. (The "Through The Wire" video was in rotation at BET before the album came out and I used to watch Rap City every day.) I was looking forward to the album and decided to give bootlegs a try. They had files off of the internet and were selling it. This was before I was into music pirating and our house didn't have a LAN connection yet because we were so far out in the woods and running cable was tough. I remember what a breath of fresh air it was. There were barely any weak tracks! Even the send-off track, which went on for about eleven minutes or so, was brilliant. 

Anyway, enough about me. It's something worth watching if you're a Kanye completist. There's nothing really that new. And you have to want to be in it for the next three hours or so, I'd imagine. It's not hagiography, either, though some of the dramatic music swells let you know the editing room is on his side. There are guest appearances by a bunch of rappers, with Mos Def, Talib Kweli, and Scarface among the most notable. The impromptu session that Kanye does with Mos Def where they do "Two Words" a cappella backstage at a New York show featuring Talib is awesome. It would have been interesting if Kanye had signed with Rawkus instead of Roc-A-Fella because Rawkus went belly up within the year or two after College Dropout. But the A&R man from Rawkus has Kanye and his future nailed. If only Rawkus management had listened to its own A&R guy, hip hop would have been entirely different. Or Kanye'd be broke. You'll know the segment when you see it. 

Cool stuff. 

 
If I'm working at Best Buy, I’m not gonna give you a free TV, cuz you watch TV the best! 

* his comment about well known rappers asking to use his beats for free cuz they feel they are the best.

 
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Finished episode 1 last night and enjoyed it.   

- Crazy that guy quit his decent job to just follow Kanye around and film him before he was really much of anything (back in 2002).   Just had a feeling he'd be big someday.   Lots of cool insider footage that never would've been captured if not for this.  (no smartphones to record everything back then)

- Some very cool footage and moments with his mom Donda.  You can now see why he was so thankful for her and ultimately dedicates his life (album names/songs) to his mom.   She was clearly very loving and supportive in all that Kanye did

- Also very cool foreshadowing multiple times of how he envisioned himself someday to be so big that he can just drop the "West" from his name and people would know who he was.  He even verbally expresses how one day he's gonna be so big he can actually cut his first name in half and just be known as "Ye".   (just this past year he officially changed his name to Ye).    Sounds very egocentric but ultimately it was the belief in himself and his talents at a young age, when he had nothing, to be able to make it reality is pretty amazing.

- Funny to see/hear him talk with his retainers in and have to pop them out all the time to be a rapper.  He had grills before grills were even a thing.   Also interesting foreshadowing to him getting in the car accident that effed up his jaw where they basically had to reconstruct his mouth anyways

- The quick moment he's walking through NYC and stops at a magazine stand to by a porn mag called "Black Tail".  He specifically says to cut the cameras and not show his addiction.   And then ultimately he ends up marrying the most famous "Tail" in the world.

 
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Just finished watching the 3rd and final episode.    Very well done, entertaining and enlightening.   For anybody that thinks this is a puff piece that spins to make Kanye look "less crazy" is wrong.   It's just a raw insight to his life as an artist (producer, rapper, fashion) and how his mind just works differently....for better or worse.

 

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