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Jeopardy Baby, Ooooh-ooh-oooooh (4 Viewers)

brun said:
For me. T-Rex is easily the most annoying contestant I can remember from any show.
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I vote for the giggling moron earlier this year that kept winning based almost completely on luck on the Final questions.

She also was in first going into Final (thanks to weak competition) more than once and kept betting 100%.

 
High quality game today 

Game Stats:
Mattea $22,800 Coryat, 30 correct, 3 incorrect, 50.88% in first on buzzer (29/57), 2/2 on rebound attempts (on 2 rebound opportunities)
Ben $10,800 Coryat, 11 correct, 2 incorrect, 19.30% in first on buzzer (11/57), 1/1 on rebound attempts (on 2 rebound opportunities)
Christina $8,400 Coryat, 12 correct, 0 incorrect, 19.30% in first on buzzer (11/57), 1/1 on rebound attempts (on 4 rebound opportunities)
Combined Coryat Score: $42,000
Lach Trash: $8,400 (on 6 Triple Stumpers)
Coryat lost to incorrect responses (less double-correct responses): $3,600

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Season 38 Ultra-Champs

Marrea - 17 wins (current)

Amy - 40 wins

Jonathon - 11 wins

Matt - 38 games 

Mattea Roach, career statistics:
470 correct, 43 incorrect
25/30 on rebound attempts (on 69 rebound opportunities)
45.79% in first on buzzer (441/963)
21/25 on Daily Doubles (Net Earned: $47,000)
11/17 in Final Jeopardy
Average Coryat: $20,341

Amy Schneider, career statistics:
1337 correct, 77 incorrect
60/67 on rebound attempts (on 152 rebound opportunities)
52.77% in first on buzzer (1230/2331)
66/76 on Daily Doubles (Net Earned: $210,200)
28/41 in Final Jeopardy
Average Coryat: $26,946

Jonathan Fisher, career statistics:
306 correct, 38 incorrect
12/14 on rebound attempts (on 45 rebound opportunities)
44.05% in first on buzzer (300/681)
12/18 on Daily Doubles (Net Earned: $12,400)
8/12 in Final Jeopardy
Average Coryat: $20,167

Matt Amodio, career statistics:
1305 correct, 122 incorrect
55/64 on rebound attempts (on 125 rebound opportunities)
56.00% in first on buzzer (1237/2209)
76/86 on Daily Doubles (Net Earned: $304,200)
29/39 in Final Jeopardy
Average Coryat: $27,913

 
Interesting spot last night in final, where Mattea had exactly double the next closest score.  Any correct answer by her and wager >$0 secures the win...but she only bet $1.  What's the proper bet here?  IMO she'd have to assume Ben goes all-in and will end the game either tied with her or at $0, so she should bet a larger amount to try and maximixe her win if correct, but leave herself enough to stay above a potential 3rd place double up if she and Ben are both wrong.  

 
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It's almost like Mattea has visited this thread. She made sure she got in all her clichés last night. 

"Oh I don't know, if I don't make it past today this has been a great ride... maybe I should wager more here but I'll be conservative... let's go with 2000."  

"You are correct!"

"Oh I should have bet more, tee hee hee... oh well, I like this category, I think I'll close it out with 2000."   :hangover:

 
Jayrok said:
It's almost like Mattea has visited this thread. She made sure she got in all her clichés last night. 

"Oh I don't know, if I don't make it past today this has been a great ride... maybe I should wager more here but I'll be conservative... let's go with 2000."  

"You are correct!"

"Oh I should have bet more, tee hee hee... oh well, I like this category, I think I'll close it out with 2000."   :hangover:
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And that was probably one of the easier 2nd round DD clues we've seen in a long while too...the category being anatomy related kind of bounded it a bit, so you kinda knew it couldn't really be too tough a clue when she found it

 
wlwiles said:
Interesting spot last night in final, where Mattea had exactly double the next closest score.  Any correct answer by her and wager >$0 secures the win...but she only bet $1.  What's the proper bet here?  IMO she'd have to assume Ben goes all-in and will end the game either tied with her or at $0, so she should bet a larger amount to try and maximixe her win if correct, but leave herself enough to stay above a potential 3rd place double up if she and Ben are both wrong.  
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Agreed.  If she missed it she would have been $1 short. May as well try to win more money with a win.  Seems if she wasn't confident about the question, she'd bet 0 to at least ensure a tie.  I don't know the tie breaker though so I may be off base here.

 
wlwiles said:
And that was probably one of the easier 2nd round DD clues we've seen in a long while too...the category being anatomy related kind of bounded it a bit, so you kinda knew it couldn't really be too tough a clue when she found it
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To her credit, Mattea was a monster in the DJ round.  The guy in the middle was late on the buzzer that round.  She pulled a Linda Ronstadt on him.  

 
Jayrok said:
Agreed.  If she missed it she would have been $1 short. May as well try to win more money with a win.  Seems if she wasn't confident about the question, she'd bet 0 to at least ensure a tie.  I don't know the tie breaker though so I may be off base here.
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Tie breaker is a sudden death question: a second question is shown on the screen and read by the host. First to buzz in gets to answer; if they're right they win, wrong and the other person wins without having to answer. 

 
Runkle said:
Tie breaker is a sudden death question: a second question is shown on the screen and read by the host. First to buzz in gets to answer; if they're right they win, wrong and the other person wins without having to answer. 
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That's correct.

And Mattea would be extremely difficult to defeat on a speed question like that.

 
Felt like Ben knew a lot of the Qs she got but kept waiting until it came to him before trying to ring in. When you’re up against an ultra you need to just trust it’ll come to you. Amodio would ring in and slow answer all the time, which is pretty impressive skill (camera+lights+audience = pressure.)

WRT FJ wager, both r/jeopardy and the jeopardy fan.com say to always bet $1 on the slim chance 2nd place bets less than all in. 3rd place (strong player who was 12/12 on answers) had a theoretical max of $16,800. I would think 1-10399 is the better answer. I cannot imagine being in a LOCK-TIE scenario and not going all in.

Second lock-tie/$1 win for our ATF.

 
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Mrs. Rannous said:
Wow.  You are young.

Vocal fry/up talk.  (Sorry about the clip quality.)

Arthur Chu 
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Vocal fry sounds like someone playing Molly Shannon's Mary Katherine Gallagher character straight. 

I didn't have any problems with Arthur Chu, but I was definitely in the minority on the internet when his run happened. And I got the sense that production was annoyed with him because (perhaps among other reasons) he played for ties, screwing up contestant logistics (and leading to a rule change that gave us the tiebreaker question if there is a tie after FJ). It was telling that he wasn't invited back for the Team Tournament despite being more memorable than some of the people who were. 

 
Mondays game was a pretty ho-hum win for the champ, found all three DD's and then got what felt like a pretty easy FJ question, Shakespeare related without having to know it inside and out, just a general sense of what each play/story is about could lead you to the right answer. 

Still on the fence whether I like Mattea or want to see her lose.  She's got my respect for sure, 20 games now I think puts her top 5 all time.  

 
IDK. I smell some kind of Quiz Show scandal where the producers like Mattea, and purposely find the 2 dumbest people they can find and have them go against Mattea until she tops Amy’s win total.

 
Mookie Gizzy said:
IDK. I smell some kind of Quiz Show scandal where the producers like Mattea, and purposely find the 2 dumbest people they can find and have them go against Mattea until she tops Amy’s win total.
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 A 20 day CANADIAN champion that gets a FJ question about the Canadian National Anthem. I'm sure the producers were relieved that it was a runaway game and not a close match when they tossed her that softball question. 

I know Ken said (and I believe him) that the clues are chosen/assigned way ahead of time, but it couldn't be that hard for the producers to look ahead and realize "oh man this is likely a gimme clue for Mattea, how about we just switch this clue out with one scheduled for next month".  Or maybe they did and opted to leave it in since it was a runaway? 

 
wlwiles said:
 A 20 day CANADIAN champion that gets a FJ question about the Canadian National Anthem. I'm sure the producers were relieved that it was a runaway game and not a close match when they tossed her that softball question. 

I know Ken said (and I believe him) that the clues are chosen/assigned way ahead of time, but it couldn't be that hard for the producers to look ahead and realize "oh man this is likely a gimme clue for Mattea, how about we just switch this clue out with one scheduled for next month".  Or maybe they did and opted to leave it in since it was a runaway? 
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My best guess is a Jedi mind trick by a known Canadian Force named Alex Trebek.  Just think of her as a Canadian Luke Skywalker (with a nose ring). 

 
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That was a pretty funny start to the game today. Ken is sometimes cheesy, but I like his sense of humor much more than what's her name's.

 
identikit said:
She's a terrible bettor
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She's a good bettor on FJ (when it's not a runaway) but she's too timid on DDs -- and she knows it. Ken said 45% of her games haven't been runaways -- I would think in at least some of those cases, it was because she bet too conservatively on DDs. 

It will be interesting to see if she bets more aggressively in the TOC when she's facing better players. Saying that Amy would likely beat her easily suggests maybe not. 

 
Final Jeopardy! betting:
(Mattea $28,400 - Jaime $6,600 - Kelly -$2,600

Kelly’s not playing FJ, and Jaime can bet whatever bc it’s a runaway a d2ns is locked up.

Mattea can bet up $15,199 and be guaranteed to win #22

she bet zero. with a half million already banked, and no risk in betting $10K or $15K, she chose to risk nothing.

that’s not risk averse; that is not comprehending “what is risk?”

 
wlwiles said:
I know Ken said (and I believe him) that the clues are chosen/assigned way ahead of time, but it couldn't be that hard for the producers to look ahead and realize "oh man this is likely a gimme clue for Mattea, how about we just switch this clue out with one scheduled for next month".  Or maybe they did and opted to leave it in since it was a runaway? 
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I don't think "random" means what you think it means.

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
She's a good bettor.  The US CIvil War is probably not the most common subject in Canadian schools.
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She's been getting a ton of US history questions right.

She got that one right

Her betting will be her downfall at the tourney imo

 
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Pip's Invitation said:
I figured that clip was gonna surface as soon as it was mentioned on the show.
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FYI for those who aren't going to click

it's not a classic rik roll, but it is a shot of CCC (several hundred singers) singing with him

apparently anyone who wants to sing with them just shows up, events are a strength in numbers thing

not sure how they handled that when they sang at the Public here in NYC lol

 
I’m kind of surprised it took her 22 shows to mention it. Most people don’t have 21 more interesting things they did in their life than sing with Rick Astley.

 
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Pip's Invitation said:
I’m kind of surprised it took her 22 shows to mention it. Most people don’t have 21 more interesting things they did in their life than sing with Rick Astley.
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I'm not going to link it but at the end of that clip he issues a challenge to Dave Grohl

welp, there's a Smells Like Teen Spirit arrangement of that song and Rick joins Foo Fighters on stage to sing it 

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Mattea received a proclamation in Parliament from the Halifax MP (her hometown) Wednesday

has this come up yet? she was a parliamentary page. it's at least the 22nd most interesting thing about her?

 
identikit said:
Her betting will be her downfall at the tourney imo
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This is almost certainly true. I know someone will try to argue "she could change it up for the ToC", but I'm inclined to think she'll stick with what got her there. She is, statistically, a Top 5 of All Time Jeopardy Champion. You could def make an argument she is less impressive than many Super/Ultra Champs, and she has gotten very lucky on several FJs where her opponents erred in their betting, but that doesn't change the results.

However, if she did try to switch up her style, I think she would fail. I don't think there is anything harder than practicing one way and playing another, and likewise, it's very rare to see a regular season champ - in any sport - employ one style to qualify and another when it's the playoffs / championship round.

 
BobbyLayne said:
This is almost certainly true. I know someone will try to argue "she could change it up for the ToC", but I'm inclined to think she'll stick with what got her there. She is, statistically, a Top 5 of All Time Jeopardy Champion. You could def make an argument she is less impressive than many Super/Ultra Champs, and she has gotten very lucky on several FJs where her opponents erred in their betting, but that doesn't change the results.

However, if she did try to switch up her style, I think she would fail. I don't think there is anything harder than practicing one way and playing another, and likewise, it's very rare to see a regular season champ - in any sport - employ one style to qualify and another when it's the playoffs / championship round.
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Ken did it, and I expect that Amy could.  I doubt anyone else would be able to.  On the other hand, Mattea only has to change her betting, rather than her play style.  That might be doable.

 
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