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Jeopardy Baby, Ooooh-ooh-oooooh (2 Viewers)

TheFanatic said:
Sure they can. I read an article on Buzzfeed about a former Jeopardy champ. She said that yell cut all the time during the taping. They could just reshoot them answering the final question and have the same answers as when they put the shout out. 
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I didn't mean they can't reshoot--I meant they can't edit their FJ screens in case they alter their question. They could ask them to reshoot without the shoutout but I'd be astounded if they could edit the actual content of their FJ screen.

 
Didn't that one lady kind of do a shout out when she wrote "congratulations James" or something like that during FJ?

 
Chemical X said:
teachers tourney starts next monday, let’s see if he can win thursday and friday so we can stop watching for a bit.
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That is an interesting interruption to the proceedings. I bet they wish they could continue through as long as he wins. Teachers will be a letdown in the ratings.

 
so with the teachers tournament, does that mean we will start seeing players that have most likely seen a good portion of his run?  We still see players that havent changed their strategy yet, but i think more and more will play like the guy earlier this week.

 
PinkydaPimp said:
so with the teachers tournament, does that mean we will start seeing players that have most likely seen a good portion of his run?  We still see players that havent changed their strategy yet, but i think more and more will play like the guy earlier this week.
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we don’t know when the teachers tourney was taped.  for all we know, it may have been taped before he played and is airing now.  also, there is no strategy, he is smarter than most and quicker on the buzzer.  only strategy is to get something right and eliminate the DDs.

 
Chemical X said:
we don’t know when the teachers tourney was taped.  for all we know, it may have been taped before he played and is airing now.  also, there is no strategy, he is smarter than most and quicker on the buzzer.  only strategy is to get something right and eliminate the DDs.
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Well there is a strategy.  You need to get the DDs away from him to have a chance.  Which means not going for the top line first.  I still see people doing this.  When you have a chance you need to choose questions likely to have a DD.  Of course thats easier said than done.  but its almost a must that you have to do that against him. 

 
PinkydaPimp said:
Well there is a strategy.  You need to get the DDs away from him to have a chance.  Which means not going for the top line first.  I still see people doing this.  When you have a chance you need to choose questions likely to have a DD.  Of course thats easier said than done.  but its almost a must that you have to do that against him. 
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well, i guess what i’m saying is that the DD strategy is not exclusive to james.  the goal every game is to get the DD.   but i understand the point.

 
PinkydaPimp said:
Well there is a strategy.  You need to get the DDs away from him to have a chance.  Which means not going for the top line first.  I still see people doing this.  When you have a chance you need to choose questions likely to have a DD.  Of course thats easier said than done.  but its almost a must that you have to do that against him. 
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Yes but of course you have to get the previous question right to get the option of picking the DD. He is pummeling everybody from the start for the most part so their odds of getting it are extremely low.  

 
Capella said:
Yes but of course you have to get the previous question right to get the option of picking the DD. He is pummeling everybody from the start for the most part so their odds of getting it are extremely low.   
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oh no doubt.  but you wont have a chance at all if you don't chase the DDs and bet heavy when you get them.  The minute i see them picking the top level early i know they likely have a very slim chance. 

 
James is the man. I've become a daily watcher of Jeopardy because of him. Tomorrow is the season finale for James, then it's 2 weeks of teachers week.

Here are my general thoughts on this:

A.) The only way somebody is going to beat James is to play the same strategy as him. I don't know what the taping schedule looks like, but the fact that he keeps doing

interviews tells me he's still winning. Also, he's a sports gambler. That tells us two things:

1.) He doesn't work a 40 hour a week job. He has nothing but time to research trivia. In fact, he was probably in Scholastic Bowls in High School and the College Equivalent. He likely has decades of useless trivia in his brain. Then, you've got him going up against bookkeepers and people who practically live at their job (as most educated people do who aren't business owners). The opportunity for him to study is much larger than the field (his opponents).

2.) He's smart. Really, really smart. Nobody beats sports betting beside really, really smart people. They are able to correlate numbers into physical interactions and be smart enough to either tangibly dissect the sport with their eyes OR be able to isolate statistics that show relevant correlation OR create formulas based on past results that create MORE ACCURATE projections than Vegas super computers.

B.) The only way James will ever lose is if somebody uses his strategy against him, period. It's safe to assume that every game that goes by, the field(his opponents) are more studied on how to play against James. And therefore, are more likely to understand James' strategy and use it to his demise. Therefore, his chances of winning will decrease the longer he keeps winning (if evenby the smallest percentage) due to others being privy to the"winning strategy".

C.) However, we can't ignore the significance of the buzzer.

Each week that James plays, he only grows stronger. His dominance over the buzzer only increases the effectiveness of his strategy. By the time his opponents get into the rhythm of the game, James has already hit the Daily Double. At that point, there's a an 75 - 80% chance he doubles up. This is what is significant. He is a sports gambler. He can win when he only hits 55% of his bets. He's betting on himself and he's hitting at 75-80% and they're paying him at EVEN MONEY.

D.) James will be dethroned (if ever) by a man, not a woman.

It's a video game bias. I guarantee James and most of the men on that show, have played extensive video games. That's timing that the majority of men have in that most women don't have due to hours invested into playing video games. That's a physical reflex reaction. You don't think James was one of those kids who grinded away at sports games for hours on end?

E.) James immediately picks the highest dollar value questions

because he wants to have AS MUCH money as possible to risk once he hits his Daily Doubles. Since the other contestants are still getting used to the buzzer, it's almost a guarantee that James will hit the Daily Double. Even his opponents fluke their way into a Daily Double (it will happen eventually), they likely won't have accumulated enough cash to put James at a significant disadvantage. If he were to work his way up from the lower questions, he might only have a couple thousand dollars once he hit the daily double.

I've seen him sweep the entire $1,000 row then double up to $14,000 - $15,000 in the first round. A lead so large, he can just play defense to ice the rest of the game. If he misses the Daily Double, it's of no significant consequence because his opponents only have a couple thousand dollars at most (as they're still behind on the buzzer).

The second daily double is where he just gets greedy. He's a smart guy. He knows who he's up against, who has how much money, and what the exact risk threshold of the situation is. He knows that the key to staying alive is controlling his own destiny. If he goes into Final Jeopardy with less money than any of his opponents, he loses control. So on the second daily double, he still leaves himself enough slack to "stay ahead".

Through a combination of having nothing but free time to study, having years of bankroll management, being a genius in general, dominance over the buzzer, and winning strategy James is downright unbeatable and will be unbeatable until somebody does what he does better than him. Because he won't beat himself.

 
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Raptors409 said:
James is the man. I've become a daily watcher of Jeopardy because of him. Tomorrow is the season finale for James, then it's 2 weeks of teachers week.

Here are my general thoughts on this:

A.) The only way somebody is going to beat James is to play the same strategy as him. I don't know what the taping schedule looks like, but the fact that he keeps doing

interviews tells me he's still winning. Also, he's a sports gambler. That tells us two things:

1.) He doesn't work a 40 hour a week job. He has nothing but time to research trivia. In fact, he was probably in Scholastic Bowls in High School and the College Equivalent. He likely has decades of useless trivia in his brain. Then, you've got him going up against bookkeepers and people who practically live at their job (as most educated people do who aren't business owners). The opportunity for him to study is much larger than the field (his opponents).

2.) He's smart. Really, really smart. Nobody beats sports betting beside really, really smart people. They are able to correlate numbers into physical interactions and be smart enough to either tangibly dissect the sport with their eyes OR be able to isolate statistics that show relevant correlation OR create formulas based on past results that create MORE ACCURATE projections than Vegas super computers.

B.)  It's safe to assume that every game that goes by, the field(his opponents) are morestudied on how to play against

James. And therefore, are more likely to understand James' strategy and use it to his demise. Therefore, his chances ofwinning will decrease (if even

by the smallest percentage) due to others being privy to the"winning strategy".

C.) However, we can't ignore the significance of the buzzer.

Each week that James plays, he only grows stronger. His domiance over the buzzer only increases the effectiveness of his strategy. By the time his opponents get into the rhythm of the game, James has already hit the Daily Double. At that point, there's a an 75 - 80% chance he doubles up. This is what is significant. He is a sports gambler. He can win when he only hits 55% of his bets. He's betting on himself and he's hitting at 75-80% and they're paying him at EVEN MONEY.

D.) James will be dethroned (if ever) by a man, not a woman.

It's a video game bias. I guarantee James and most of the men on that show, have played extensive video games. That's timing that the majority of men have in that most women don't have due to hours invested into playing video games. That's a physical reflex reaction. You don't think James was one of those kids who grinded away at sports games for hours on end?

E.) James immediately picks the highest dollar value questions

because he wants to have AS MUCH money as possible to risk once he hits his Daily Doubles. Since the other contestants are still getting used to the buzzer, it's almost a guarantee that James will hit the Daily Double. Even his opponents fluke their way into a Daily Double (it will happen eventually), they likely won't have accumulated enough cash to put James at a significant disadvantage. If he were to work his way up from the lower questions, he might only have a couple thousand dollars once he hit the daily double.

I've seen him sweep the entire $1,000 row then double up to $14,000 - $15,000 in the first round. A lead so large, he can just play defense to ice the rest of the game. If he misses the Daily Double, it's of no significant consequence because his opponents only have a couple thousand dollars at most (as they're still behind on the buzzer).

The second daily double is where he just gets greedy. He's a smart guy. He knows who he's up against, who has how much money, and what the exact risk threshold of the situation is. He knows that the key to staying alive is controlling his own destiny. If he goes into Final Jeopardy with less money than any of his opponents, he loses control. So on the second daily double, he still leaves himself enough slack to "stay ahead".

Through a combination of having nothing but free time to study, having years of bankroll management, being a genius in general, dominance over the buzzer, and winning strategy James is downright unbeatable and will be unbeatable until somebody does what he does better than him. Because he won't beat himself.
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It will take something like a challenger getting 2/3 DDs and then James missing FJ for him to lose.  Any game where he doesn't have a "runaway", there's a chance he will lose if he misses FJ.  Is my scenario likely?  Obviously not but he has a long way to go before beating KJ's 73 game streak.

How many games did KJ enter FJ with less money than one (or more) challengers?

 
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Raptors409 said:
D.) James will be dethroned (if ever) by a man, not a woman.

It's a video game bias. I guarantee James and most of the men on that show, have played extensive video games. That's timing that the majority of men have in that most women don't have due to hours invested into playing video games. That's a physical reflex reaction. You don't think James was one of those kids who grinded away at sports games for hours on end?
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Jennings lost to a woman.  Not that I remember her name.  I think she only won that one game.

 
chet said:
I didn't mean they can't reshoot--I meant they can't edit their FJ screens in case they alter their question. They could ask them to reshoot without the shoutout but I'd be astounded if they could edit the actual content of their FJ screen.
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Sure they can.  Just re-shoot with the content of the screen altered.  Or just photoshop it, as someone else pointed out.

 
Jayrok said:
I think he'll pass K in winnings but he won't beat the win streak. Someone will jump ahead and he'll press and make a mistake. imo
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Yes this is pretty much my take. That many wins in a row by Ken is insane.  Beating 2 tested contenders that many days in a row is not exactly easy.  But this new guy pushes it enough to where he leaves himself just a little open to an upset.  

 
Galileo said:
Yes, but he is not permitted to write the "Hi, Mom" type thing anymore.  Producers won't allow it.  So, betting certain amounts is a way to do a "shout out" to someone in his life who is watching without doing a traditional shout out.  There was no strategic value to betting 11,381.  I think that was the amount, IIRC.  I suspect 11/3/81 is someone's birthday.  
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He did it again tonight...bet 11,381 on a DD 

 
Still astonished at the breadth of this guy's knowledge. Haven't seen him get shut out of any categories yet- seems to know something about pretty much everythimg

 
El Floppo said:
Still astonished at the breadth of this guy's knowledge. Haven't seen him get shut out of any categories yet- seems to know something about pretty much everythimg
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For a lot of Jeopardy! questions, you don't have to know the answer to get it right.  They very often put enough information in the clue that you can guess the answer even if you don't know it.

 
bcdjr1 said:
For a lot of Jeopardy! questions, you don't have to know the answer to get it right.  They very often put enough information in the clue that you can guess the answer even if you don't know it.
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That ignores my point, which isn’t about depth, but breadth of knowledge. I’ve never seen anybody be able to answer every category....even iirc, Jennings. This guy has knowledge about everything ranging from religion, to history, geography, pop culture, sports, science, literature, etc, etc...and hasn’t been shut out of a category yet. All champions I’ve seen run into a category or three where they’re clearly ignorant.

 
The questions have seemed a more easy.  I have had streaks of 7-8 correct in a row without trying. I will be a little pissed to find out this was rigged in order to get more viewers to give Alex a good send off. 

 
Courtjester said:
The questions have seemed a more easy.  I have had streaks of 7-8 correct in a row without trying. I will be a little pissed to find out this was rigged in order to get more viewers to give Alex a good send off. 
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They’ve been easier before this guy. I normally get 50% at most, but feel like I know a lot more of the answers than previous years. And as I’ve pointed out, im definitely getting dumber in my old age, so this isn’t some look at me getting smarter thing.

 
El Floppo said:
Still astonished at the breadth of this guy's knowledge. Haven't seen him get shut out of any categories yet- seems to know something about pretty much everythimg
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Out of the 264 categories in his 22 shows he's only been blanked 6 times

ETA: Jennings was blanked 8 times in his first 264 categories

 
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