Jerious Norwood (1 Viewer)

[biggamer3]

Ok Norwood is a FA after next season and he is still a youngster (will be 27 when he is a FA)

The guy has 292 career carries for 1681 yards and a not normal 5.76 career YPC.

He has also caught 75 balls in his very limited playing time in three seasons.

first he was stuck behind Dunn and now Turner.

If Atlanta was smart they would deal him to Denver or some running back starved team for a 2nd round pick before he signs the following year with another team.

I am loading up on this guy in dynasty leagues.

Tell me one reason why Norwood is not gonna be huge for fantasy when he gets his chance?

 

[SayWhat?]

Tell me one reason why Norwood is not gonna be huge for fantasy when he gets his chance?

I think the real question is how do you know that he's going to "get his chance" at having a role any more significant than he has now?

 

[bumpman]

Tell me one reason why Norwood is not gonna be huge for fantasy when he gets his chance?

I think the real question is how do you know that he's going to "get his chance" at having a role any more significant than he has now?

Correct. He really doesn't look like an everydown back. You might think he can be one, but my bet is most GMs won't. That means he won't get a large free agent deal like Turner got. Instead he will have to assess his options to join another RBBC committee or to re-sign with Atlanta, which really is a great situation for him. Turner absorbs most of the punishment during games allowing Norwood to excel as an all-around threat. Norwood was injured a couple of times in his limited role as it was this year. He won't stand up to a full time work load. Without that, I don't think you will see Norwood become an elite fantasy player. That having been said, I think Norwood can be a good RB3 next year and possibly a low-end RB2 if Atlanta takes its offense to another level.

 

[Banger]

Ok Norwood is a FA after next season and he is still a youngster (will be 27 when he is a FA)The guy has 292 career carries for 1681 yards and a not normal 5.76 career YPC.He has also caught 75 balls in his very limited playing time in three seasons.first he was stuck behind Dunn and now Turner.If Atlanta was smart they would deal him to Denver or some running back starved team for a 2nd round pick before he signs the following year with another team.I am loading up on this guy in dynasty leagues.Tell me one reason why Norwood is not gonna be huge for fantasy when he gets his chance?

He had his chance IMO when the team was in shambles, Dunn was coming off back surgery and he still couldn't get a bigger bite of the pie. I've had the same opinion of him for the last 3 seasons and this year is no different. He is what he is, a player who's best used in a limited role. I tend to watch what coaches do and say and he's had what, at least 3, I think 4 coaches that have all used him in the same exact situation. Why? They can obviously divide yards by carries and figure out he has a good ypc so why don't they use him more? They all want to win and keep their jobs yet they have this diamond that they choose to use only in limited situations. Is it possible that he blows up? Maybe. If you can get him cheap and stash him go for it but I'd temper expectations. He's a Tatum Bell IMO.

 

[Garts]

Norwood is a role player. I think his explosiveness would suffer if he was used more. He is great in his role asa guy who comes in after Turner softens up the defence.

I just don't think his body could handle a full-time pounding.

Should he be involved more.....yeah maybe....

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

The most overused phrase used in the Shark Pool is, "he's not an every down back". I'm glad to know there are so many experts here. I'm in the corner of give him a chance and let's see. Looking at his body type I just don't see why people use that against him when making statements that he's not an every down back. He's listed as 5'11" 204 at Rotoworld (wonder when that was posted), but looks bigger than that to me. His legs also look bigger than they were when he was drafted. If Steve 'f-ing' Slaton (5'10 190) can be an every down back, so can Norwood.

 

[biggamer3]

The most overused phrase used in the Shark Pool is, "he's not an every down back". I'm glad to know there are so many experts here. I'm in the corner of give him a chance and let's see. Looking at his body type I just don't see why people use that against him when making statements that he's not an every down back. He's listed as 5'11" 204 at Rotoworld (wonder when that was posted), but looks bigger than that to me. His legs also look bigger than they were when he was drafted. If Steve 'f-ing' Slaton (5'10 190) can be an every down back, so can Norwood.

That irks me as well when people say that.They were saying the same things about Tiki, Westbrook and countless others.

If the guy has the skills he can be the feature back.

Norwood has looked amazing whenever i have seen him play

 

[Avery]

The most overused phrase used in the Shark Pool is, "he's not an every down back". I'm glad to know there are so many experts here. I'm in the corner of give him a chance and let's see. Looking at his body type I just don't see why people use that against him when making statements that he's not an every down back. He's listed as 5'11" 204 at Rotoworld (wonder when that was posted), but looks bigger than that to me. His legs also look bigger than they were when he was drafted. If Steve 'f-ing' Slaton (5'10 190) can be an every down back, so can Norwood.

That irks me as well when people say that.They were saying the same things about Tiki, Westbrook and countless others.

If the guy has the skills he can be the feature back.

Norwood has looked amazing whenever i have seen him play

Not necessarily so.Some guys are great in limited roles for they can explode with full energy in a role where they are limited enough to not get worn down.

People often make the mistake that if a certain player gets Y yards on Z touches then he will get Y x 2 yards on Z x 2 touches or Y x 3 yards on Z x 3 touches.

Edit to add: Since I see you're a Giants fan, Bradshaw may be a good analogous player. He excels in a limited touch role but that doesn't necessarily mean that he can maintain that production over 20 - 30 carries over a game.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

The most overused phrase used in the Shark Pool is, "he's not an every down back". I'm glad to know there are so many experts here. I'm in the corner of give him a chance and let's see. Looking at his body type I just don't see why people use that against him when making statements that he's not an every down back. He's listed as 5'11" 204 at Rotoworld (wonder when that was posted), but looks bigger than that to me. His legs also look bigger than they were when he was drafted. If Steve 'f-ing' Slaton (5'10 190) can be an every down back, so can Norwood.

That irks me as well when people say that.They were saying the same things about Tiki, Westbrook and countless others.

If the guy has the skills he can be the feature back.

Norwood has looked amazing whenever i have seen him play

Not necessarily so.Some guys are great in limited roles for they can explode with full energy in a role where they are limited enough to not get worn down.

People often make the mistake that if a certain player gets Y yards on Z touches then he will get Y x 2 yards on Z x 2 touches or Y x 3 yards on Z x 3 touches.

Let's give Norwood a chance before putting this label on him. Who's to say that he wouldn't be effective as the main ball carrier? Or does it just sound good to use the phrase "he's not an every down back" as often as possible?

 

[Avery]

The most overused phrase used in the Shark Pool is, "he's not an every down back". I'm glad to know there are so many experts here. I'm in the corner of give him a chance and let's see. Looking at his body type I just don't see why people use that against him when making statements that he's not an every down back. He's listed as 5'11" 204 at Rotoworld (wonder when that was posted), but looks bigger than that to me. His legs also look bigger than they were when he was drafted. If Steve 'f-ing' Slaton (5'10 190) can be an every down back, so can Norwood.

That irks me as well when people say that.They were saying the same things about Tiki, Westbrook and countless others.

If the guy has the skills he can be the feature back.

Norwood has looked amazing whenever i have seen him play

Not necessarily so.Some guys are great in limited roles for they can explode with full energy in a role where they are limited enough to not get worn down.

People often make the mistake that if a certain player gets Y yards on Z touches then he will get Y x 2 yards on Z x 2 touches or Y x 3 yards on Z x 3 touches.

Let's give Norwood a chance before putting this label on him. Who's to say that he wouldn't be effective as the main ball carrier? Or does it just sound good to use the phrase "he's not an every down back" as often as possible?

He could well prove that he could be an every down back, but my point is just because he excels in a limited role doesn't necessarily mean he will have the same per touch production in a full time/expanded role as the OP seems to insinuate. Perhaps the fact that multiple NFL coaches haven't given him a bigger role says more then what we may theorize here.

 

[Banger]

The most overused phrase used in the Shark Pool is, "he's not an every down back". I'm glad to know there are so many experts here. I'm in the corner of give him a chance and let's see. Looking at his body type I just don't see why people use that against him when making statements that he's not an every down back. He's listed as 5'11" 204 at Rotoworld (wonder when that was posted), but looks bigger than that to me. His legs also look bigger than they were when he was drafted. If Steve 'f-ing' Slaton (5'10 190) can be an every down back, so can Norwood.

I don't get into the 40 times, BMI, height/weight debate but as I said above I pay attention to what the coaches say and do. I'm not saying he can't be an every down back but why hasn't he become one? He's had a number of different coaches and they've all used him in the same role. Why haven't any increased it/changed it if they thought he was something special. Maybe he's best suited for the role that he's in.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

1. He refuses to run between the tackles. No coach is going to build their offense around a guy who takes every handoff to the outside. Runners that can't sustain a rushing attack get utilized as change of pace backs.

2. He's high-cut with long legs and a sprinter's build. He won't hold up to the pounding and is already dealing with constant nagging injuries even with a limited role. Every coach Atlanta has had in Norwood's tenure has said the exact same thing.

3. For every Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber, there are hundreds of Alvin Pearmans, Tavian Banks, and John Averys -- even Kevin Faulks and Dave Meggetts.

4. Coaches know more about the game and the player than you do. They watch hundreds of hours of tape, study the permutations, know the personalities, etc. If they've determined that Norwood is "not an every down back," it's because that's what their research, experience, and Norwood's skillset has told them.

5. Norwood is a classic example of a role player. Put him in an expanded role that does not emphasize his strengths, and his production will suffer.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

1. He refuses to run between the tackles. No coach is going to build their offense around a guy who takes every handoff to the outside. Runners that can't sustain a rushing attack get utilized as change of pace backs.2. He's high-cut with long legs and a sprinter's build. He won't hold up to the pounding and is already dealing with constant nagging injuries even with a limited role. Every coach Atlanta has had in Norwood's tenure has said the exact same thing.3. For every Brian Westbrook or Tiki Barber, there are hundreds of Alvin Pearmans, Tavian Banks, and John Averys -- even Kevin Faulks and Dave Meggetts.4. Coaches know more about the game and the player than you do. They watch hundreds of hours of tape, study the permutations, know the personalities, etc. If they've determined that Norwood is "not an every down back," it's because that's what their research, experience, and Norwood's skillset has told them.5. Norwood is a classic example of a role player. Put him in an expanded role that does not emphasize his strengths, and his production will suffer.

This is a well thought out post.