Jermichael Finley, TE, Green Bay Packers (1 Viewer)

[wiscstlatlmia]

This was more of an outlier game than a consistent performance. If you look at his past performanc, you will notice his catch to target ratio is extremely impressive. Hands is one of his strengths, not one of his weaknesses. It looked like to me the entire packers team was affected by the loss of Chad Clifton. It seems the confidence went down ten fold after the injury and lasted until the middle to late 3rd quarter. I honestly get the feeling Finley was a bit nervous about losing out on snaps, because one of his weaknesses is pass protection. The look on his face after his drops were more of nerves. The talent is no doubt there, but as long as Bulaga and Clifton are both out he will lose plays to other tight ends.

 

[cvnpoka]

so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured? not sure if serious...

 

[BigSteelThrill]

so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured? not sure if serious...

He had a less then stellar night. Not much else to see here, move along.

 

[griff321]

Vastly overrated. I'd dump him if I could but everybody in my league is watching this game and nobody's going to take him after this performance.To think I could've had Jimmy Graham two rounds later and have my TE starter for the next 5 years makes me sick.

I'd give you Dallas Clark for him Seriously, he's still a top 5 WR. Witten, Gronk, Graham, Finley, who else?

I tried to move him for hernandez in my dynasty league and the other owner informed me he values Hernandez higher than Fin. A lot of people are wary about his inconsistencies. Then there's a bigger question mark looming ominously on the horizon.

 

[D'OHtis]

People have an issue with a TE on pace for 70 catches 950+ yards 10 TD's?

JMO People had unrealistic expectations if you expected a whole lot more than that.

 

[cvnpoka]

People have an issue with a TE on pace for 70 catches 950+ yards 10 TD's?JMO People had unrealistic expectations if you expected a whole lot more than that.

4 out of his 5 games he has had 0 tds and less than 68 yards receiving. it seems that his "pace" is driven by an anomaly of a performance. even more disconcerting was dropping a trivially easy td pass today and a similarly easy conversion. the concern is that he just may not be that good of a player if he cant make those catches.

 

[griff321]

People have an issue with a TE on pace for 70 catches 950+ yards 10 TD's?JMO People had unrealistic expectations if you expected a whole lot more than that.

4 out of his 5 games he has had 0 tds and less than 68 yards receiving. it seems that his "pace" is driven by an anomaly of a performance. even more disconcerting was dropping a trivially easy td pass today and a similarly easy conversion. the concern is that he just may not be that good of a player if he cant make those catches.

If that's the actual concern then I'm not worried at all. He may be trying to press things a bit to make up for last year, but he is a beast that's not to be underestimated.There's a bigger concern, but I dare not mention it.....yet.

 

[Ghost Rider]

The problem is that Finley simply has not shown himself to be a consistent scorer. He has scored in 2 of the 9 games he has played in since his value went the roof (when everyone was salivating over him in preseason last year).

Meanwhile, since the start of 2010:

-Gronkowski has scored in 10 of 21 games.

-Gates has scored in 9 of 12.

-Witten has scored in 9 of 20.

-Dustin Keller has scored in 5 of 20.

-Jimmy Graham has scored in 7 of 17.

-Greg Olsen has scored in 8 of 21.

-Even Gonzalez (who is considered to be well past his prime) has scored in 8 of 21.

See what I mean? Finley usually puts up nice yardage and a fair amount of catches, but he needs to score on a more consistent basis before he comes close to touching even the smallest expectations that many have had for him since the start of last year. Are many of them unrealistic? Yes. But a guy with his talent should be scoring more than once every four and a half games.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

There's a bigger concern, but I dare not mention it.....yet.

Is he gonna go all Mark Chmura on us or something?You could of course be referring to his contract situation. And if I were the Packers I'd be looking at the four other tight ends on my roster and wondering exactly what Finley's worth relative to them.

 

[Deamon]

People have an issue with a TE on pace for 70 catches 950+ yards 10 TD's?JMO People had unrealistic expectations if you expected a whole lot more than that.

4 out of his 5 games he has had 0 tds and less than 68 yards receiving. it seems that his "pace" is driven by an anomaly of a performance. even more disconcerting was dropping a trivially easy td pass today and a similarly easy conversion. the concern is that he just may not be that good of a player if he cant make those catches.

True, his td 'pace' is driven by that game. However he's only put up under 50 yards in one game this season. I'm not sure what else anyone was expecting from him. I can see the TD issue, but he's still getting his fair share of looks.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured? not sure if serious...

If you watched the game and saw his facial expressions after the drops.... yes I am serious. A guy with his personality type would be worried about losing snaps because he knows hes only a receiving option. He was pressing....go back and watch

 

[SayWhat?]

so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured? not sure if serious...

If you watched the game and saw his facial expressions after the drops.... yes I am serious. A guy with his personality type would be worried about losing snaps because he knows hes only a receiving option. He was pressing....go back and watch

That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever read on these message boards, and I'm not one to call someone out like that. But c'mon. Finley was worried about losing snaps because his LT got injured so he was pressing to make plays, which resulted in numerous drops (and another near drop late in the game)? Doubt it.I'm a Finley owner and what was more disappointing to me than the drops was the fact that every time he pulled a rabbit out of his ### and actually managed to hang onto a pass, he was flexing and making exagerated first down signals. Dude had just a brutal game yet he was acting like he was making all these spectacular plays. What a clown.

 

[BobbyLayne]

so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured? not sure if serious...

If you watched the game and saw his facial expressions after the drops.... yes I am serious. A guy with his personality type would be worried about losing snaps because he knows hes only a receiving option. He was pressing....go back and watch

That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever read on these message boards, and I'm not one to call someone out like that. But c'mon. Finley was worried about losing snaps because his LT got injured so he was pressing to make plays, which resulted in numerous drops (and another near drop late in the game)? Doubt it.I'm a Finley owner and what was more disappointing to me than the drops was the fact that every time he pulled a rabbit out of his ### and actually managed to hang onto a pass, he was flexing and making exagerated first down signals. Dude had just a brutal game yet he was acting like he was making all these spectacular plays. What a clown.

RoY used to pull that crap *(still does) with the Lions losing by 3+ scores. Never realized until last night Finley was so massively insecure.

 

[Coeur de Lion]

Finley is on pace for 70 - 963 - 9 1/2; that will be good for strong TE1 status. Anyone expecting too much more was really drinking too deeply of the cool aid. Rogers is too good to force feed any one guy; he'll just continue to spread the ball around hitting whoever the defense is neglecting on a particular play. Finley, and likely all of the GB receiving weapons, will be a bit inconsistent due to this, but they'll all be solid fantasy starters over the course of the year.

Finley had two bad drops in a nationally televised game. It happens. Don't overreact.

 

[joffer]

you're nuts if you bail on this guy

and one of them wasn't a drop, it was a catch and a fumble. should've been challenged.

 

[cvnpoka]

you're nuts if you bail on this guyand one of them wasn't a drop, it was a catch and a fumble. should've been challenged.

not sure anyone hinted at bailing on him. he will be in my lineup for the rest of the year. it just seems he was a bit overdrafted for his production and ability. thats the drafters fault ofc, ie me.

 

[DoubleG]

you're nuts if you bail on this guy

and one of them wasn't a drop, it was a catch and a fumble. should've been challenged.

not sure anyone hinted at bailing on him. he will be in my lineup for the rest of the year. it just seems he was a bit overdrafted for his production and ability. thats the drafters fault ofc, ie me.

FYP. The fact is, Rodgers looks for open receivers - sometimes he finds one not named Finley. Many were(are?) expecting Finley to be "Gates-like" - until VJax came along, keep in mind who some of the other WR options were on the Chargers. The point is that the Packers have Jennings, Nelson, Driver, Cobb, Jones, etc. Finley will still put up strong TE numbers - maybe just not "Gates-like" numbers, given the talent at other receiving spots and Rodgers' comfort with simply hitting open receivers.

 

[joffer]

if I'm re-drafting today the only TE i'm taking over him is Graham

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Finley didn't exactly have a stellar night. But his hands are actually one of his greatest strengths. Stuff like that happens to everyone.

One thing to keep in mind regarding Finley is that he is still learning this offense. This may be his fourth year in the league, but he essentially redshirted his rookie year, and only played four games last year. 2009 was has been his only complete season as a starter, and even then he missed three games due to injury. I know that sounds like excuses, but to be honest, Finley isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. Its just going to take him longer than some players to put it all together.

Finley's talent is remarkable and undeniable. However, when Rodgers has so many other quality options at his disposal (options that have years of experience in this offense), he's opting not to lean on Finley as much as he could/should. If the Packers choose to resign him, I still have no doubt we are looking at a perennial difference maker at TE.

 

[Reepicheep]

Finley didn't exactly have a stellar night. But his hands are actually one of his greatest strengths. Stuff like that happens to everyone.

One thing to keep in mind regarding Finley is that he is still learning this offense. This may be his fourth year in the league, but he essentially redshirted his rookie year, and only played four games last year. 2009 was has been his only complete season as a starter, and even then he missed three games due to injury. I know that sounds like excuses, but to be honest, Finley isn't the brightest bulb on the tree. Its just going to take him longer than some players to put it all together. Finley's talent is remarkable and undeniable. However, when Rodgers has so many other quality options at his disposal (options that have years of experience in this offense), he's opting not to lean on Finley as much as he could/should. If the Packers choose to resign him, I still have no doubt we are looking at a perennial difference maker at TE.

You can say that again.

 

[two_dollars]

People have an issue with a TE on pace for 70 catches 950+ yards 10 TD's?JMO People had unrealistic expectations if you expected a whole lot more than that.

So about the same as Jason Avant who's on pace for 74/1000?

 

[hines]

Vastly overrated. I'd dump him if I could but everybody in my league is watching this game and nobody's going to take him after this performance.To think I could've had Jimmy Graham two rounds later and have my TE starter for the next 5 years makes me sick.

I'd give you Dallas Clark for him Seriously, he's still a top 5 WR. Witten, Gronk, Graham, Finley, who else?

I tried to move him for hernandez in my dynasty league and the other owner informed me he values Hernandez higher than Fin. A lot of people are wary about his inconsistencies. Then there's a bigger question mark looming ominously on the horizon.

what is the one looming?

 

[Reepicheep]

Vastly overrated. I'd dump him if I could but everybody in my league is watching this game and nobody's going to take him after this performance.To think I could've had Jimmy Graham two rounds later and have my TE starter for the next 5 years makes me sick.

I'd give you Dallas Clark for him Seriously, he's still a top 5 WR. Witten, Gronk, Graham, Finley, who else?

I tried to move him for hernandez in my dynasty league and the other owner informed me he values Hernandez higher than Fin. A lot of people are wary about his inconsistencies. Then there's a bigger question mark looming ominously on the horizon.

what is the one looming?

Contract.

 

[D'OHtis]

If Finley (TE4 in pts / TE6 in avg) is your #1 issue, you're sitting pretty good right now.

 

[JamesTheScot]

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<br>so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured?  not sure if serious...<br>

<br>If you watched the game and saw his facial expressions after the drops.... yes I am serious. A guy with his personality type would be worried about losing snaps because he knows hes only a receiving option. He was pressing....go back and watch<br>

<br><br>That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever read on these message boards, and I'm not one to call someone out like that.  But c'mon.  Finley was worried about losing snaps because his LT got injured so he was pressing to make plays, which resulted in numerous drops (and another near drop late in the game)?  Doubt it.<br><br>I'm a Finley owner and what was more disappointing to me than the drops was the fact that every time he pulled a rabbit out of his ### and actually managed to hang onto a pass, he was flexing and making exagerated first down signals.  Dude had just a brutal game yet he was acting like he was making all these spectacular plays.  What a clown.<br>

<br><br>That was bothering me as well.  When you're dropping TD balls, you look like an idiot celebrating a 1st down catch.<br><br>It was encouraging to see Rodgers go back to him after the drops, though.<br><br>What is clear though is that there is going to be week to week inconsistency in his production and that everyone who was pro-rating his first few games last year and thinking that Jennings would drop off again were wrong.  Finley plays with a smart QB that sees the whole field and the other pass catchers on the team are capable of getting open with regularity.<br>

 

[Luke Skywalker]

If Finley (TE4 in pts / TE6 in avg) is your #1 issue, you're sitting pretty good right now.

My problems with Finley is he A) is not consistent week-to-week and B) doesn't look the part. I hear a ton about this guy's talent but the production doesn't match the hype and it chaps my rear that I bought into this guy when I could've waited and got a better player. There are a lot of excuses being made for Finley right now and I just don't get it. He looks like an overrated bum to me.

 

[ChromeWeasel]

If Finley (TE4 in pts / TE6 in avg) is your #1 issue, you're sitting pretty good right now.

My problems with Finley is he A) is not consistent week-to-week and B) doesn't look the part. I hear a ton about this guy's talent but the production doesn't match the hype and it chaps my rear that I bought into this guy when I could've waited and got a better player. There are a lot of excuses being made for Finley right now and I just don't get it. He looks like an overrated bum to me.

He may be over-rated but he's not a bum. He's still a top-5 starter with top-3 potential. He just may not be living up to his draft position. Anyone that got him for a reasonable draft pick has to be pretty happy with him. It's not like he's been sitting out games due to injury or putting up tier2 numbers.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

He may be over-rated but he's not a bum. He's still a top-5 starter with top-3 potential. He just may not be living up to his draft position. Anyone that got him for a reasonable draft pick has to be pretty happy with him. It's not like he's been sitting out games due to injury or putting up tier2 numbers.

When I say he's a bum I'm not talking about his fantasy production necessarily. I'm talking about the way he carries himself. Which is not likely to endear himself to his coaches. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on some team like the Browns next year and is never heard from again.Long-term I'm not liking him and I really wish I'd gone in a different direction. But hey, that's what I get for buying into the hype. Should know better by now.

 

[joffer]

He may be over-rated but he's not a bum. He's still a top-5 starter with top-3 potential. He just may not be living up to his draft position. Anyone that got him for a reasonable draft pick has to be pretty happy with him. It's not like he's been sitting out games due to injury or putting up tier2 numbers.

When I say he's a bum I'm not talking about his fantasy production necessarily. I'm talking about the way he carries himself. Which is not likely to endear himself to his coaches. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on some team like the Browns next year and is never heard from again.Long-term I'm not liking him and I really wish I'd gone in a different direction. But hey, that's what I get for buying into the hype. Should know better by now.

because he gets over-excited after a 1st down?

 

[ChromeWeasel]

He may be over-rated but he's not a bum. He's still a top-5 starter with top-3 potential. He just may not be living up to his draft position. Anyone that got him for a reasonable draft pick has to be pretty happy with him. It's not like he's been sitting out games due to injury or putting up tier2 numbers.

When I say he's a bum I'm not talking about his fantasy production necessarily. I'm talking about the way he carries himself. Which is not likely to endear himself to his coaches. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on some team like the Browns next year and is never heard from again.Long-term I'm not liking him and I really wish I'd gone in a different direction. But hey, that's what I get for buying into the hype. Should know better by now.

Sounds like sour grapes to me. If Finley is never heard from again next year (your own words) that's going to surprise pretty much everyone watching the NFL today. He's a major talent. Any team would love to have him. The Packers just happen to have a ton of weapons and a QB capable of utilizing them. That really shouldnt surprise anyone.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

If Finley (TE4 in pts / TE6 in avg) is your #1 issue, you're sitting pretty good right now.

My problems with Finley is he A) is not consistent week-to-week and B) doesn't look the part. I hear a ton about this guy's talent but the production doesn't match the hype and it chaps my rear that I bought into this guy when I could've waited and got a better player. There are a lot of excuses being made for Finley right now and I just don't get it. He looks like an overrated bum to me.

Huh?Finley is currently on pace for 70/963/9.6

Antonio Gates' average for the last three years: 63/881/9

If your eyes are telling you he's an overrated bum, I suggest you either get glasses, or start watching football games. Finley is a beast out there. Some teams have opted to double him regularly, and others have gotten their secondary abused by him. I also think if he was on a lesser team Finley would be doing just fine beating double coverage. Rodgers doesn't have to play that game though with all his other weapons.

 

[two_dollars]

He's no Jimmy.

 

[hitchcock]

He's no Jimmy.

Yes, and Graham's clearly the No. 1 option. If you flip teams Finley's doing the same damage so it's pointless for people in here to call him a bum. Graham overeacts to big plays, too. Remember Opening Night in GB? People have such short memories in fantasy football and I think Luke Skywalker is salty because he didn't draft Graham or Gronk. Can't expect a perfect draft, bubby.

 

[sho nuff]

If Finley (TE4 in pts / TE6 in avg) is your #1 issue, you're sitting pretty good right now.

His overall ranking right now is mostly fluffed by the one big 3TD week.On a consistent game to game basis...he has not been scoring as a top 5 TE.

 

[joffer]

If Finley (TE4 in pts / TE6 in avg) is your #1 issue, you're sitting pretty good right now.

His overall ranking right now is mostly fluffed by the one big 3TD week.On a consistent game to game basis...he has not been scoring as a top 5 TE.

he pretty much single-handedly won my matchup for me that week. there aren't many TEs that can do that. If i got one week like that every four, i'm happy

 

[sho nuff]

If Finley (TE4 in pts / TE6 in avg) is your #1 issue, you're sitting pretty good right now.

His overall ranking right now is mostly fluffed by the one big 3TD week.On a consistent game to game basis...he has not been scoring as a top 5 TE.

he pretty much single-handedly won my matchup for me that week. there aren't many TEs that can do that. If i got one week like that every four, i'm happy

Im not saying its a bad thing to have.I wanted Finley going into this year, but knew I would not pay that price for him.Im happy I got stuck with Graham and Hernandez.Just saying that while that week was nice, and Im not suggesting a "take away that one week and he sucks" logic, just that his overall numbers on the year are bloated by that and the week to week consistency has not been there yet.

 

[De Novo]

so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured? not sure if serious...

If you watched the game and saw his facial expressions after the drops.... yes I am serious. A guy with his personality type would be worried about losing snaps because he knows hes only a receiving option. He was pressing....go back and watch

That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever read on these message boards, and I'm not one to call someone out like that. But c'mon. Finley was worried about losing snaps because his LT got injured so he was pressing to make plays, which resulted in numerous drops (and another near drop late in the game)? Doubt it.I'm a Finley owner and what was more disappointing to me than the drops was the fact that every time he pulled a rabbit out of his ### and actually managed to hang onto a pass, he was flexing and making exagerated first down signals. Dude had just a brutal game yet he was acting like he was making all these spectacular plays. What a clown.

I don't mind the flexing. Is he supposed to hang his head low the whole game after dropping a pass? No, you move past it and move on to the next play.

 

[sho nuff]

That and the catches he made were pretty big/key first down catches.

Not that I like the celebrating he does with those...pretty much was talking to the TV last night telling him to get back to the huddle. But he could not hear me because he had his on.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

If your eyes are telling you he's an overrated bum, I suggest you either get glasses, or start watching football games. Finley is a beast out there. Some teams have opted to double him regularly, and others have gotten their secondary abused by him.

I hear this excuse for him a lot. The Falcons had a corner on him in single coverage all night and he did jack squat.Sorry, not impressed.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

He's no Jimmy.

Or Gronk......thankfully I had an extra WR and traded for Gronk so I can try to dump this overrated bum Finley.

 

[Reepicheep]

If your eyes are telling you he's an overrated bum, I suggest you either get glasses, or start watching football games. Finley is a beast out there. Some teams have opted to double him regularly, and others have gotten their secondary abused by him.

I hear this excuse for him a lot. The Falcons had a corner on him in single coverage all night and he did jack squat.Sorry, not impressed.

Oh good grief, when did 67 yards receiving become "jack squat" for a TE? 67 yards is a "par" game for a 1000 yard season. Which has only been done by 14 players all-time. It's not an amazing game but you're being ridiculous. He had some uncharacteristic drops but also had several clutch third-and-long catches for first downs. Sheesh.

 

[SayWhat?]

so finley had 3 egregious drops bc his left tackle was injured? not sure if serious...

If you watched the game and saw his facial expressions after the drops.... yes I am serious. A guy with his personality type would be worried about losing snaps because he knows hes only a receiving option. He was pressing....go back and watch

That's one of the most ridiculous assertions I've ever read on these message boards, and I'm not one to call someone out like that. But c'mon. Finley was worried about losing snaps because his LT got injured so he was pressing to make plays, which resulted in numerous drops (and another near drop late in the game)? Doubt it.I'm a Finley owner and what was more disappointing to me than the drops was the fact that every time he pulled a rabbit out of his ### and actually managed to hang onto a pass, he was flexing and making exagerated first down signals. Dude had just a brutal game yet he was acting like he was making all these spectacular plays. What a clown.

I don't mind the flexing. Is he supposed to hang his head low the whole game after dropping a pass? No, you move past it and move on to the next play.

Who ever said that he should hang his head low after making a catch? But it's assinine that he was celebrating like he just made the worlds greatest play every time he actually held onto a pass. Ya know, hanging onto a pass like he's paid to do and wasn't doing every other time the ball hit him where it was supposed to...in the hands.Don't get me wrong, I like it when players play with emotion and fire. But there's also a time to realize that you look like a tool celebrating like that. One such time is when you're performing far below the level you should be which was the case with Finley last night. Another is when your team is getting blown out of the water and losing by 20 points in the 4th quarter. The problem is that there's some of these guys that just don't get it.

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

I worry about them keeping him in to block more during Clifton's absence. Atlanta doesn't have a great passrush, but Finley was kept in to help block their middle rush after Clifton left the game.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

I worry about them keeping him in to block more during Clifton's absence. Atlanta doesn't have a great passrush, but Finley was kept in to help block their middle rush after Clifton left the game.

Shouldn't be an issue. Bulaga should return this week at RT, which means they'll put Newhouse at LT. Newhouse has been quite good so far. If they want a TE to stay in and block, they'll put one of their other TEs in that spot. Quarless and Crabtree are much better blockers anyway. Finley is a TE in name only. He's really closer to a WR with the way the Packers use him.

 

[Darryl Talley]

I hate owning this guy.

He's like the gifted child who has to take a backseat to the low self-esteem mediocre kids.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Finley with another monster game. Good thing I benched his sorry ###.

 

[sandlotshrink]

What a disappointment!

 

[J-Dawg]

This guy is beyond frustrating to own. You don't want to bench him because he's so talented but you start him and he lays another egg. All sizzle and no substance with this guy, I'd love for him to string a couple solid games together so I can trade his sorry ###.

 

[emge]

I agree, I traded him for Jimmy Graham the day before he had the 3 TDs the other owner was happy that day...

 

[zamboni]

Unfortunately, the Packers offense is too good that Rodgers doesn't need to force the ball to him. Looks like I am going to sit him for Pettigrew from now on until he shows some consistent stats.