Jerramy Stevens will be be a starting caliber TE (1 Viewer)

[m_sell31]

What kind of numbers do you expect from Stevens this season? I'm in a 14 team dynasty league, do you think he will put up numbers worthy of starting? I currently have no TE and think i can get him pretty cheap.

I believe Mili was hurt last season, and Stevens put up career numbers.

With him back does he revert back to him 04 numbers?

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I do not have a linky off hand, but I read somewhere he is still hurting from some offseason surgery or injury I think. I will look into it further when I get time.

 

[diesel7982]

There are better values at TE than Jerramy Stevens this year.

Mili won't hurt him as much as a healthy DJAX will.

 

[wannabee]

I am a Stevens owner and saw the same articles:

The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens...

Published Mon Jun 12 11:39:00 p.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens isn't likely to be ready for football until the third week of August.

Impact: That would appear to put Stevens' readiness for Week 1 in question. Considering his inconsistent career, we wouldn't reach to draft Stevens in a 12-team league if he's not 100%.

Seahawks | Stevens off crutches

Published Mon Jun 12 9:46:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Gregg Bell, of the Associated Press, reports Seattle Seahawks TE Jerramy Stevens (knee) was on the sidelines Monday, June 12, without crutches for the first time since his April 25 surgery to repair the torn meniscus cartilage in his left knee, an injury he attributed to "wear and tear." He is not yet jogging, but is encouraged by his recent advance to walking without pain. Trainers have told him he is on schedule to return to practice in the third week of August. That would put his availability for the Sept. 10 season opener at Detroit in question. "I have a long ways to go," Stevens said. "But the progress has been great. I've had no setbacks."

ETA: I agree with Diesel. I doubt the surgery will hurt as much as a healthy DJax and Burleson. I do expect more TDs, but less yards. Something like: 40 catches, 500 yds, 6 TDs

 

[m_sell31]

I am a Stevens owner and saw the same articles:

The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens...

Published Mon Jun 12 11:39:00 p.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens isn't likely to be ready for football until the third week of August.

Impact: That would appear to put Stevens' readiness for Week 1 in question. Considering his inconsistent career, we wouldn't reach to draft Stevens in a 12-team league if he's not 100%.

Seahawks | Stevens off crutches

Published Mon Jun 12 9:46:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Gregg Bell, of the Associated Press, reports Seattle Seahawks TE Jerramy Stevens (knee) was on the sidelines Monday, June 12, without crutches for the first time since his April 25 surgery to repair the torn meniscus cartilage in his left knee, an injury he attributed to "wear and tear." He is not yet jogging, but is encouraged by his recent advance to walking without pain. Trainers have told him he is on schedule to return to practice in the third week of August. That would put his availability for the Sept. 10 season opener at Detroit in question. "I have a long ways to go," Stevens said. "But the progress has been great. I've had no setbacks."

ETA: I agree with Diesel. I doubt the surgery will hurt as much as a healthy DJax and Burleson. I do expect more TDs, but less yards. Something like: 40 catches, 500 yds, 6 TDs

Sounds like he is one to avoid. Could come real cheap in the first few weeks of the season.

 

[wannabee]

By the way, here are his career stats:

+-------------------------+

| Receiving |

+----------+-----+-------------------------+

| Year TM | G | Rec Yards Y/R TD |

+----------+-----+-------------------------+

| 2002 sea | 12 | 26 252 9.7 3 |

| 2003 sea | 16 | 6 72 12.0 0 |

| 2004 sea | 16 | 31 349 11.3 3 |

| 2005 sea | 16 | 45 554 12.3 5 |

+----------+-----+-------------------------+

| TOTAL | 60 | 108 1227 11.4 11 |

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/StevJe00.htm

 

[BigRed]

There are better values at TE than Jerramy Stevens this year.

Not many IMO. Seems to me he'll be pretty cheap (I figure I can land him for $2-3 tops) and has been coming on last couple of years, despite his inconsistencies. Month-old injury reports don't bother me much either. If I can't grab one of the top TEs or a solid 2d tier guy like Cooley, it won't break my heart to have him starting for my team.

 

[diesel7982]

There are better values at TE than Jerramy Stevens this year.

Not many IMO. Seems to me he'll be pretty cheap (I figure I can land him for $2-3 tops) $2-3 out of how much? $100? $50? $500?

Hes been going as the 15th TE over at ANTsports which I think is pretty reasonable for a guy who will have a hard time topping 400/3.

and has been coming on last couple of years, despite his inconsistencies.

Not sure what you are seeing here. Had 26/252/3 in 2002, 6/72/0 in 2003, and 31/349/3 in 2004, and then a breakout last year...but the Seahawks were also starting Joey J and DJ Hackett for a good part of the season, and Itula Mili was out. No surprise that he caught more passes.

Month-old injury reports don't bother me much either.

I dont know how to address this statement.

If I can't grab one of the top TEs or a solid 2d tier guy like Cooley, it won't break my heart to have him starting for my team.

Of the 14 TEs listed ahead of him in ADP, Id rather have all 14, plus two lower guys in Troupe and Alex Smith. And possibly Jermaine Wiggins.

Stevens just has very limited upside, and alot of downside.

 

[BigRed]

$2-3 out of how much? $100? $50? $500?

I figured it was reasonable to assume $100 unless stated otherwise - maybe not

Hes been going as the 15th TE over at ANTsports which I think is pretty reasonable for a guy who will have a hard time topping 400/3.

Agree, though I'd go a little higher.

31/349/3 in 2004, and then a breakout last year...

Right. ie like I said, last couple of years. Don't get what you don't get.

but the Seahawks were also starting Joey J and DJ Hackett for a good part of the season, and Itula Mili was out. No surprise that he caught more passes.

True enough. I thought I heard Mili was on the way out though.

Of the 14 TEs listed ahead of him in ADP, Id rather have all 14, plus two lower guys in Troupe and Alex Smith. And possibly Jermaine Wiggins.

To each their own. No way do I want Smith or Wiggins over him though.

Stevens just has very limited upside, and alot of downside.

Disagree (though I may agree by the time our draft rolls around).

 

[diesel7982]

$2-3 out of how much?  $100? $50?  $500?

I figured it was reasonable to assume $100 unless stated otherwise - maybe not

Hes been going as the 15th TE over at ANTsports which I think is pretty reasonable for a guy who will have a hard time topping 400/3.

Agree, though I'd go a little higher.

31/349/3 in 2004, and then a breakout last year...

Right. ie like I said, last couple of years. Don't get what you don't get.

but the Seahawks were also starting Joey J and DJ Hackett for a good part of the season, and Itula Mili was out.  No surprise that he caught more passes. 

True enough. I thought I heard Mili was on the way out though.

Of the 14 TEs listed ahead of him in ADP, Id rather have all 14, plus two lower guys in Troupe and Alex Smith.  And possibly Jermaine Wiggins. 

To each their own. No way do I want Smith or Wiggins over him though.

Stevens just has very limited upside, and alot of downside.

Disagree (though I may agree by the time our draft rolls around).

Fair enough BR

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

I was just reading ESPN the Magazine's crappy fantasy magazine and in their mock draft section one of the "experts" claimed to know Stevens personally and said that he cancelled his wedding in the off-season, shaved his head and beard, and is totally focused on putting together a dominant season (or something to that extent).

Useless gossip aside, I expect Stevens to be a top 7-10 TE again this year. The guy flat out gets open with his great blend of size and speed. I don't think Mili will be much of a threat to steal any of Stevens thunder as he's reallly getting up their in age.

 

[diesel7982]

I was just reading ESPN the Magazine's crappy fantasy magazine and in their mock draft section one of the "experts" claimed to know Stevens personally and said that he cancelled his wedding in the off-season, shaved his head and beard, and is totally focused on putting together a dominant season (or something to that extent).

Useless gossip aside, I expect Stevens to be a top 7-10 TE again this year. The guy flat out gets open with his great blend of size and speed. I don't think Mili will be much of a threat to steal any of Stevens thunder as he's reallly getting up their in age.

This ignores the impact that the return of DJax and the addition of Burleson will have on the skew of the Seahawks WR #s. Either you are projecting the Hawks to throw for more yards than the 3600+ they had last year, or you think Djax will underperform and Burleson will at best match Jurevicius.

I personally don't count on either. And that analysis ignores the injured knee, the threat of Mili, and the fact that a guy with a problem drinking history just got divorced from his wife.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

I was just reading ESPN the Magazine's crappy fantasy magazine and in their mock draft section one of the "experts" claimed to know Stevens personally and said that he cancelled his wedding in the off-season, shaved his head and beard, and is totally focused on putting together a dominant season (or something to that extent).

Useless gossip aside, I expect Stevens to be a top 7-10 TE again this year. The guy flat out gets open with his great blend of size and speed. I don't think Mili will be much of a threat to steal any of Stevens thunder as he's reallly getting up their in age.

This ignores the impact that the return of DJax and the addition of Burleson will have on the skew of the Seahawks WR #s. Either you are projecting the Hawks to throw for more yards than the 3600+ they had last year, or you think Djax will underperform and Burleson will at best match Jurevicius.

I personally don't count on either. And that analysis ignores the injured knee, the threat of Mili, and the fact that a guy with a problem drinking history just got divorced from his wife.

The return of DJAX only makes thing easier for the rest of the Seahawks offense (Stevens included). Do I really have to point out to you how much Hasselbeck spreads the ball around? And since when has a Mike Holmgren offense ever been guilty of under-utilizing the TE position? While I'm sure Jackson will get the most touches, Burleson and Engram will thrive in the Seahawks bread and butter 3 WR sets, and Stevens will find himself open early and often. Hasselbeck will certainly not hesitate to to get him the football.

In the 9 games Stevens and Jackson played together last year (including the playoffs) Stevens had 5 TD receptions. That would suggest that Stevens is actually a greater threat to score a TD when Hasselbeck has more weapons at his disposal on offense.

I don't expect Stevens to improve much yardage-wise from the 554 yards he put up last year, but I think we will see a 2-3 TD increase from the 5 TD's (tied for 4th among TE's) he registered last year in the regular season. Part of that projected increase in TD's has to do with the fact that he should be playing with a healthy D-Jax this season (which as I already explained helps and not hurts his numbers).

The other reason is that I don't think the Shaun Alexander will have another NFL

record 28 TD's season. I think he'll have ~20 TD's this year, which means that Hasselbeck and all of his weapons in the passing game should see a nice increase in TD production this year. The Seahawks will get by just fine without Hutchinson but they most certainly will miss his dominant run blocking in goal line situations. They probably won't be quite as lopsided with their running plays to the left and I'm expecting to see more passing attempts in close. And who better to get the ball to in the red zone than your 6'7" TE?

As for Mili, he's not a threat. Period. Stevens has firmly entrenched himself as the man at TE in Seattle. The only way he gets significant playing time this year is if Stevens is hurt. But rest assured, the second Stevens gets healthy the job will go right back to him.

I'd be very surprised if he isn't a go for week 1. Hell, I think Djax's knee(s) are in worse shape than Stevens. At any rate, the injury cloud hovering over Stevens head should turn him into a great value late in a draft or on the waiver wire.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

Second-string veteran Itula Mili also missed practice. He has been bothered by an Achilles tendon injury. And emerging Ryan Hannam signed this offseason with Dallas. So tight end is Seattle's most shallow position heading into training camp, which begins the last weekend of July.

I wouldn't be surprised if Will Heller (formerly of the Bucs) ends up as Seattle's #2 TE. I don't have any faith in Mili.

 

[BoltBacker]

I really don't understand all the love Stevens is getting this offseason. He had one ho-hum season when all the other receivers on the team were riddled with injuries and it seems the concensus is he'll pretty much perform like he did last season from here on out. Not sure what that's based on....... before last year his highest yardage total was 350 and highest TD total was 3.

I'd take Troupe/Miller/Smith ahead of him in a heartbeat and imo he's somewhere in the next tier along with V.Davis/E.Johnson/Hilton/DesClark. He could slide even further if the time table for his return goes from late August to September.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

Again, I'm of the opinion that playing alongside an injury riddled group of WR's actually hurt Steven's numbers. Hell, look at the NFC title game and Super Bowl...The Seahawks finally had all of their weapons on offense together on the field at the same time and Holmgren made Stevens a HUGE part of the offense.

I also don't think you can factor in his play past last season as he wasn't a full time starter yet.

As far as Stevens getting a lot of love this off-season, I'm not seeing it. It seems as if everyone but me is down on him. At this point, he could be a late steal in a draft or even on the waiver wire.

 

[BoltBacker]

As far as Stevens getting a lot of love this off-season, I'm not seeing it. It seems as if everyone but me is down on him. At this point, he could be a late steal in a draft or even on the waiver wire.

How do you figure that? Almost everyone is predicting he'll come very, very close to last seasons yardage/TD totals and yet he's never come close to those #'s before last season.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

As far as Stevens getting a lot of love this off-season, I'm not seeing it. It seems as if everyone but me is down on him. At this point, he could be a late steal in a draft or even on the waiver wire.

How do you figure that? Almost everyone is predicting he'll come very, very close to last seasons yardage/TD totals and yet he's never come close to those #'s before last season.

Before last season the most games that he had ever started in a season was 5. So of course last year was a career year for him. He actually was on the field playing. And this year (if he's healthy), he's the unquestioned starter in Seattle.As of right now, FG's has him ranked as ~13 best fantasy TE. That's hardly a stretch, and that drafting position is certainly not giving him a lot of love.

 

[Bri]

This is like an annual thread topic and yet every year(except when he's out hurt) Milli eats into his numbers. Stevens is doomed to anger Holmgren somehow and Milli will give Mike a full tilt effort.

I avoid this like the plague

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

This is like an annual thread topic and yet every year(except when he's out hurt) Milli eats into his numbers. Stevens is doomed to anger Holmgren somehow and Milli will give Mike a full tilt effort.

I avoid this like the plague

I can't believe so many people think Mili is still a threat. The guy is washed up. He's 31 years old, he missed all of last year, he's currently being plauged by a nagging achilles tendon injury, and the numbers Stevens put up last year are better than any season Mili has ever had. The only way that he'll ever start again for the Seahawks is if Stevens is hurt.

 

[Bri]

This is like an annual thread topic and yet every year(except when he's out hurt) Milli eats into his numbers. Stevens is doomed to anger Holmgren somehow and Milli will give Mike a full tilt effort.

I avoid this like the plague

I can't believe so many people think Mili is still a threat. The guy is washed up. He's 31 years old, he missed all of last year, he's currently being plauged by a nagging achilles tendon injury, and the numbers Stevens put up last year are better than any season Mili has ever had. The only way that he'll ever start again for the Seahawks is if Stevens is hurt.

How's Stevens' health now?

 

[wannabee]

This is a month old:

Seahawks | Stevens off crutches

Published Mon Jun 12 9:46:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Gregg Bell, of the Associated Press, reports Seattle Seahawks TE Jerramy Stevens (knee) was on the sidelines Monday, June 12, without crutches for the first time since his April 25 surgery to repair the torn meniscus cartilage in his left knee, an injury he attributed to "wear and tear." He is not yet jogging, but is encouraged by his recent advance to walking without pain. Trainers have told him he is on schedule to return to practice in the third week of August. That would put his availability for the Sept. 10 season opener at Detroit in question. "I have a long ways to go," Stevens said. "But the progress has been great. I've had no setbacks."

The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens

Published Mon Jun 12 11:39:00 p.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens isn't likely to be ready for football until the third week of August.

Impact: That would appear to put Stevens' readiness for Week 1 in question. Considering his inconsistent career, we wouldn't reach to draft Stevens in a 12-team league if he's not 100%.

 

[Bri]

This is a month old:

Seahawks | Stevens off crutches

Published Mon Jun 12 9:46:00 p.m. ET 2006

(KFFL) Gregg Bell, of the Associated Press, reports Seattle Seahawks TE Jerramy Stevens (knee) was on the sidelines Monday, June 12, without crutches for the first time since his April 25 surgery to repair the torn meniscus cartilage in his left knee, an injury he attributed to "wear and tear." He is not yet jogging, but is encouraged by his recent advance to walking without pain. Trainers have told him he is on schedule to return to practice in the third week of August. That would put his availability for the Sept. 10 season opener at Detroit in question. "I have a long ways to go," Stevens said. "But the progress has been great. I've had no setbacks."

The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens

Published Mon Jun 12 11:39:00 p.m. ET 2006

(Rotoworld) The Associated Press reports Jerramy Stevens isn't likely to be ready for football until the third week of August.

Impact: That would appear to put Stevens' readiness for Week 1 in question. Considering his inconsistent career, we wouldn't reach to draft Stevens in a 12-team league if he's not 100%.

what he said

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

How is the health of TE Jerramy Stevens and DE Grant Wistrom?

“All those guys are ahead of schedule. Jerramy should be able to practice next week. Grant, a week later. Hackett has a grade one hamstring. They say two to three weeks.”

From an August 3rd premium article on scout.comhttp://story.scout.com/a.z?s=114&p=2&a...2%2f552704.html

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

The above quote was from Holmgren by the way.

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

According to Holmgren, Stevens is set to return to the practice field this Wednesday.

 

[Solidsteel Rats]

8/7/2006 2:33:00 PM et

Jerramy Stevens is expected to return to practice on Wednesday.

Stevens' rehab from knee surgery progressed ahead of schedule as training camp began. He appears likely to be ready for Week 1 and should be a solid TE2, but not a fantasy starter.

Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

 

[redman]

8/7/2006 2:33:00 PM et Jerramy Stevens is expected to return to practice on Wednesday. Stevens' rehab from knee surgery progressed ahead of schedule as training camp began. He appears likely to be ready for Week 1 and should be a solid TE2, but not a fantasy starter. Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

Sounds like he'll be dropping passes in no time at all!

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

8/7/2006 2:33:00 PM et Jerramy Stevens is expected to return to practice on Wednesday. Stevens' rehab from knee surgery progressed ahead of schedule as training camp began. He appears likely to be ready for Week 1 and should be a solid TE2, but not a fantasy starter. Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

Sounds like he'll be dropping passes in no time at all!

He saves that for the Super Bowl. He'll be just fine in the regular season.

 

[redman]

8/7/2006 2:33:00 PM et Jerramy Stevens is expected to return to practice on Wednesday. Stevens' rehab from knee surgery progressed ahead of schedule as training camp began. He appears likely to be ready for Week 1 and should be a solid TE2, but not a fantasy starter. Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

Sounds like he'll be dropping passes in no time at all!

He saves that for the Super Bowl. He'll be just fine in the regular season.

Wait a minute, I thought you said the Super Bowl was stolen from you!

 

[This_Is_Not_VRR]

8/7/2006 2:33:00 PM et

Jerramy Stevens is expected to return to practice on Wednesday.

Stevens' rehab from knee surgery progressed ahead of schedule as training camp began. He appears likely to be ready for Week 1 and should be a solid TE2, but not a fantasy starter.

Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

Sounds like he'll be dropping passes in no time at all!

He saves that for the Super Bowl. He'll be just fine in the regular season.

Wait a minute, I thought you said the Super Bowl was stolen from you!

I've never once said that. I complain about the refs in the Super Bowl because they did a horrible job of officiating the game. But I'll be the first to admit that a team doesn't deserve to win a game merely because the refs botched a bunch of calls. And despite the bad calls, they had every opportunity in the world to win the game.The only thing I take issue with is when the NFL, their refs, and fans try to maintain that it was a well officiated game. It wasn't. That stance is just as delusional as Seattle fans maintaining that the Seahawks deserved to win the game.

Hopefully this doesn't turn into another tedious Super Bowl debate. Jerramy Stevens is the topic at hand...

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

8/7/2006 2:33:00 PM et Jerramy Stevens is expected to return to practice on Wednesday. Stevens' rehab from knee surgery progressed ahead of schedule as training camp began. He appears likely to be ready for Week 1 and should be a solid TE2, but not a fantasy starter. Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

Sounds like he'll be dropping passes in no time at all!

He saves that for the Super Bowl. He'll be just fine in the regular season.

Wait a minute, I thought you said the Super Bowl was stolen from you!

Don't be a thread killer...

 

[lod2005]

Mili is washed up.

 

[BigRed]

That was my understanding/impression, although diesel's replies above have me wondering.....

Obviously he's a backup at best; the question is how bad to the backups have to get before you take him.

 

[redman]

8/7/2006 2:33:00 PM et

Jerramy Stevens is expected to return to practice on Wednesday.

Stevens' rehab from knee surgery progressed ahead of schedule as training camp began. He appears likely to be ready for Week 1 and should be a solid TE2, but not a fantasy starter.

Source: Seahawks Insider Blog

Sounds like he'll be dropping passes in no time at all!

He saves that for the Super Bowl. He'll be just fine in the regular season.

Wait a minute, I thought you said the Super Bowl was stolen from you!

Don't be a thread killer...

Relax. I was joking which the "" should have signified to you and everyone else. Stevens has been one of the most frustrating fantasy players for the last several years. After his last 6 games in 2002 when he posted some great TE numbers, people have been waiting for him to break out but it hasn't really happened. I've twice drafted him in redraft leagues thinking I was getting a steal, and I also tried to trade for him in dynasty.

He's a perfect candidate for breaking out. He's huge, athletic and fast, and he's in a very TE friendly offensive system. He also has very good talent around him in that offense. He has the potential to put up top 5 TE fantasy numbers, but he never seems to.

 

[Bri]

This is like an annual thread topic and yet every year(except when he's out hurt) Milli eats into his numbers. Stevens is doomed to anger Holmgren somehow and Milli will give Mike a full tilt effort.

I avoid this like the plague

I can't believe so many people think Mili is still a threat. The guy is washed up. He's 31 years old, he missed all of last year, he's currently being plauged by a nagging achilles tendon injury, and the numbers Stevens put up last year are better than any season Mili has ever had. The only way that he'll ever start again for the Seahawks is if Stevens is hurt.

 

[Fishnic]

out for 6 weeks according to sportsline