Jets add years to Sanchez contract (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manning

Ultimately this merely guarantees Sanchez will be the starter in 2012 and 2013, which was going to be the case barring Manning anyway. But the timing does make you wonder. Jets were considered one of the young promising franchises just an offseason ago, but now feel like one making a lot of suspect choices.

 

[beerbarron]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manningUltimately this merely guarantees Sanchez will be the starter in 2012 and 2013, which was going to be the case barring Manning anyway. But the timing does make you wonder. Jets were considered one of the young promising franchises just an offseason ago, but now feel like one making a lot of suspect choices.

Nothing like rewarding regression.. with and extension...

 

[Workhorse]

As a Patriots fan:

 

[beerbarron]

As a Patriots fan:

Shrex is on the hot seat and done after next seasons collapse.. Then they cut sanchise, clean house and start all over again... Pats division for anohter 3/4 years...

 

[fridayfrenzy]

This is hardly a contract extension, it was more of a move to restructure and make cap room for this year.

The three years added on are non-guaranteed which means Sanchez can be cut very easily after his original deal was up (i.e after 2 years), and the new deal gives the Jets around $7 million in cap space this year.

Seems more like a way for the Jets to have the control to keep Sanchez or cut him anytime after his 2 years are up, and gives them more cap room right now.

 

[rzrback77]

This is hardly a contract extension, it was more of a move to restructure and make cap room for this year. The three years added on are non-guaranteed which means Sanchez can be cut very easily after his original deal was up (i.e after 2 years), and the new deal gives the Jets around $7 million in cap space this year.Seems more like a way for the Jets to have the control to keep Sanchez or cut him anytime after his 2 years are up, and gives them more cap room right now.

Still more than a little surprising that the JETS are committing to two more years, but agree that they are gaining some cap room.

 

[Balco]

Jets appear to be in denial with Sanchez. He is a mediocre qb who has seemingly regressed despite solid skill talent around him. What a train wreck that team has begun. And when Rex gets fired, he will leave behind a cancerous locker room, and a horrific salary cap situation.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

This is hardly a contract extension, it was more of a move to restructure and make cap room for this year. The three years added on are non-guaranteed which means Sanchez can be cut very easily after his original deal was up (i.e after 2 years), and the new deal gives the Jets around $7 million in cap space this year.Seems more like a way for the Jets to have the control to keep Sanchez or cut him anytime after his 2 years are up, and gives them more cap room right now.

Still more than a little surprising that the JETS are committing to two more years, but agree that they are gaining some cap room.

His original deal was still for two more years with a lot of guaranteed money so he wasn't going anywhere for the next two years regardless of this new contract.

 

[rzrback77]

This is hardly a contract extension, it was more of a move to restructure and make cap room for this year. The three years added on are non-guaranteed which means Sanchez can be cut very easily after his original deal was up (i.e after 2 years), and the new deal gives the Jets around $7 million in cap space this year.Seems more like a way for the Jets to have the control to keep Sanchez or cut him anytime after his 2 years are up, and gives them more cap room right now.

Still more than a little surprising that the JETS are committing to two more years, but agree that they are gaining some cap room.

His original deal was still for two more years with a lot of guaranteed money so he wasn't going anywhere for the next two years regardless of this new contract.

similar to Kevin Kolb?

 

[cstu]

Jets appear to be in denial with Sanchez. He is a mediocre qb who has seemingly regressed despite solid skill talent around him. What a train wreck that team has begun. And when Rex gets fired, he will leave behind a cancerous locker room, and a horrific salary cap situation.

He made process despite a bad OL last year. The Jets are trying to trade RT Wayne Hunter because they know he was the major reason Sanchez took so many sacks (11 sacks allowed). I don't expect Sanchez to be an elite QB but he would be a lot better with improved pass protection.

 

[Balco]

Jets appear to be in denial with Sanchez. He is a mediocre qb who has seemingly regressed despite solid skill talent around him. What a train wreck that team has begun. And when Rex gets fired, he will leave behind a cancerous locker room, and a horrific salary cap situation.

He made process despite a bad OL last year. The Jets are trying to trade RT Wayne Hunter because they know he was the major reason Sanchez took so many sacks. I don't expect Sanchez to be an elite QB but he would be a lot better with improved pass protection.

He makes boneheaded decisions, and often badly overthrows/throws a curveball his receivers.

 

[adrenaline]

Is it common opinion that he has regressed?

I haven't watched him play much but he has improved in completion %, TD % & QB rating every season. He is only 25, well before the majority of QBs reach their prime.

 

[jurb26]

Is it common opinion that he has regressed? I haven't watched him play much but he has improved in completion %, TD % & QB rating every season. He is only 25, well before the majority of QBs reach their prime.

I don't think he has really regressed. I think it's more a function of people thinking he is/was better than he really was. A lot of people fell in love with Sanchez after his rookie year because of the teams success and placed unwarranted praise on him. They NYJ made Sanchez look better than he really was back then. They aren't doing that any more and people are realizing he just isn't that good. They then assume he has gotten worse. He's just never been that good.

 

[Abraham]

IIRC he had the highest salary number this year of any QB in the league. This is just a move to get that number down. He'll need to toss 50+ total TDS in the next two seasons to keep his job.

 

[comfortably numb]

Is it common opinion that he has regressed? I haven't watched him play much but he has improved in completion %, TD % & QB rating every season. He is only 25, well before the majority of QBs reach their prime.

AFCCGAFCCGno playoffshowever you shake it, Jets fans were due to deal with this very soon.He wasn't a game changer at any point year 1 or 2, and it was disguised with the playoff success, and him actually making some good throws in clutch moments.He still is not a game changer, couldn't carry a team (didn't 2009/2010 either) on his own, RB situation got worse, O line got worse, he looked worse, Jets missed playoffs, some team turmoil, loudmouth coach= media field day.2011 were career highs inTDYdsComp %AttQB RatingandSacksSo...I think Jets have what they have had all along.Solid QB who without good running game and D will be pressured and prone to mistakes.Maybe he gets better this year, and can help carry a team without great supporting conditions.

 

[adrenaline]

Is it common opinion that he has regressed? I haven't watched him play much but he has improved in completion %, TD % & QB rating every season. He is only 25, well before the majority of QBs reach their prime.

I don't think he has really regressed. I think it's more a function of people thinking he is/was better than he really was. A lot of people fell in love with Sanchez after his rookie year because of the teams success and placed unwarranted praise on him. They NYJ made Sanchez look better than he really was back then. They aren't doing that any more and people are realizing he just isn't that good. They then assume he has gotten worse. He's just never been that good.

Well worded.

 

[adrenaline]

Is it common opinion that he has regressed?

I haven't watched him play much but he has improved in completion %, TD % & QB rating every season. He is only 25, well before the majority of QBs reach their prime.

AFCCGAFCCG

no playoffs

however you shake it, Jets fans were due to deal with this very soon.

He wasn't a game changer at any point year 1 or 2, and it was disguised with the playoff success, and him actually making some good throws in clutch moments.

He still is not a game changer, couldn't carry a team (didn't 2009/2010 either) on his own, RB situation got worse, O line got worse, he looked worse, Jets missed playoffs, some team turmoil, loudmouth coach= media field day.

2011 were career highs in

TD

Yds

Comp %

Att

QB Rating

and

Sacks

So...

I think Jets have what they have had all along.

Solid QB who without good running game and D will be pressured and prone to mistakes.

Maybe he gets better this year, and can help carry a team without great supporting conditions.

This is part of what I was getting at. I'm not sure of the odds, but he is definitely young enough that a significant improvement is far from out of the question.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

Sanchez still plays like a young QB even though he is only young by age. You have to be somewhat worried about a QB that looks like he does so frequently if he is supposed to be a franchise QB.

His biggest flaw is a combination at reading a defence and or going through his reads. He can hit a WR that is open if it is his first read, but he does not throw well when he can't get if to that first read.

Also, from the times I watched him play he does not throw well outside the numbers. I think this is partly why his WR's hated playing for him this past year. He seems to be progressing as a check down guy and a throw the ball in the middle of the field type QB. Someone you can only win with (as they have had success with that style in his first couple of seasons), but not someone who can carry an offense or hang with other high scoring teams.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manningUltimately this merely guarantees Sanchez will be the starter in 2012 and 2013, which was going to be the case barring Manning anyway. But the timing does make you wonder. Jets were considered one of the young promising franchises just an offseason ago, but now feel like one making a lot of suspect choices.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I never saw the Jets as a "young promising franchise". I saw them as a franchise that had a definite window to compete, and that's coming to a close about now. They traded draft picks, brought in FA's, and tried to make a run of it for a few years now. That's ending.

 

[TLEF316]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manningUltimately this merely guarantees Sanchez will be the starter in 2012 and 2013, which was going to be the case barring Manning anyway. But the timing does make you wonder. Jets were considered one of the young promising franchises just an offseason ago, but now feel like one making a lot of suspect choices.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I never saw the Jets as a "young promising franchise". I saw them as a franchise that had a definite window to compete, and that's coming to a close about now. They traded draft picks, brought in FA's, and tried to make a run of it for a few years now. That's ending.

I'm a fairly negative jets fan, but the window for the current group isn't closed yet. Almost all of their key players are <28 years old and under long term contracts (Revis, Mangold, Harris, Ferguson, Wilkerson, Kyle Wilson, Holmes, Keller, Cromartie, Sanchez). Not saying those guys are all great, but they're absolutely good enough to compete for a title if the rest of the roster is properly constructed. (and if sanchez improves) After this year, they'll be able to get out from under Pace and Scott's contracts (which are WAY too high for their current production level) and re-load with some more explosive LB's. The current LB core can't rush the passer and can't cover. Add in the fact that Scott is weakening at the point of attack and you've got a pretty big weak spot. Sanchez is the key. If he develops, the core group is absolutely talented enough to make a run with some decent draft picks/FA signings. They have big needs at WR, LB and Safety (and they need a new RT). They could also use an upgrade at RB.Again, not saying this is going to be a great team next year, but they DON'T need a full rebuilding job unless Sanchez is a total flop. As far as I know, they don't owe anyone any draft picks right now, so they'll have an opportunity to pick up some contributors next month.

 

[adrenaline]

Sanchez still plays like a young QB even though he is only young by age. You have to be somewhat worried about a QB that looks like he does so frequently if he is supposed to be a franchise QB.His biggest flaw is a combination at reading a defence and or going through his reads. He can hit a WR that is open if it is his first read, but he does not throw well when he can't get if to that first read.Also, from the times I watched him play he does not throw well outside the numbers. I think this is partly why his WR's hated playing for him this past year. He seems to be progressing as a check down guy and a throw the ball in the middle of the field type QB. Someone you can only win with (as they have had success with that style in his first couple of seasons), but not someone who can carry an offense or hang with other high scoring teams.

Good read.

 

[Abraham]

I was a lot more impressed with him as a passer in college. I'm frankly a little shocked that he isn't more productive in the pocket.

 

[SoCalBroncoFan]

Sanchez has played 3 years in the league. While he has never been great, he hasnt been horrible either. He has played on a playoff team in the biggest media market in the country and has not wilted under the pressure. I say give the kid a little more time to grow.

 

[matttyl]

I read somewhere this morning that in this new deal he has a $10M bonus...payable if he wins 4 Super Bowls. Are they serious with that?! 4 Super Bowl victories in the next 5 years?!

(KFFL) New York Jets QB Mark Sanchez has a $10 million escalator in his contract extension; however, he would have to win four Super Bowl titles to receive it.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

I read somewhere this morning that in this new deal he has a $10M bonus...payable if he wins 4 Super Bowls. Are they serious with that?! 4 Super Bowl victories in the next 5 years?!

(KFFL) New York Jets QB Mark Sanchez has a $10 million escalator in his contract extension; however, he would have to win four Super Bowl titles to receive it.

Andrew Brandt of National Football Post breaks down the contract details here.

 

[NYRAGE]

It was a cap savings move, nothing more. They can still cut him after a couple of years if they want...but they won't.

I'm not a huge Sanchez fan, so not trying to be a homer. Is he going to be a Brady, Brees, Rodgers type franchise QB? No. I think he will be a good QB for a long time. He's still young and doesn't have a ton of experience compared to other QBs his age.

Does he make bad reads? Yes. Does he struggle with accuracy? Yes. He's not just a game manager though. He engineered several game-winning late comebacks two seasons ago. He did perform well in the playoffs.

Sanchez has made some terrible plays. He's relatively short and has thrown a couple of game-killing INTs to d-lineman. Guess what? Even Eli Manning made some horrific repeated dumb plays. Two seasons ago, Eli made that what the hell was he doing 101 yard INT for a td where he basically flipped it up in the air from the one yard line. Hell, Eli had 25 INTs two seasons ago and now he is considered elite.

Two things that you can not discount when evaluating Sanchez and saying that he regressed: 1)Wayne Hunter was one of the worst, if not worst, Right Tackles in the league. He allowed the most hits on the QB by a RT. Even All-Pro Ferguson allowed a lot of sacks and pressures on the left hand side. Even Brady wilts under pressure. 2) Offensive coordinator Schottenheimer: the scheme was awful. Teams were consistently correctly calling out the offensive plays. The offense had no rhythm because Mr. Trixster had players motioning around for no apparent reason other than creating offensive offsides. He would have 3 receivers running routes to the same spot and usually short of the first down marker. Anyway, the point being that this wasn't exactly the GB scheme. No QB could ever flourish under this Coordinator.

One other thing: Mark gets paid like a top 7 QB. Well guess what, under the old system, any QB drafted in the top 5 was going to get a monster contract. Not much you can do about that. People criticizing the extension are just hating without realizing that the Jets are getting the benefit of this new deal with the cap savings and flexibility to dump Sanchez down the road if need be. Part of the hate stems from Rex being a loudmouth. I get that, but people need to give Sanchez more time to develop.

 

[babydemon90]

As a Patriots fan:

Shrex is on the hot seat and done after next seasons collapse.. Then they cut sanchise, clean house and start all over again... Pats division for anohter 3/4 years...

Why on earth would he be on the hot seat? One mediocre season? Tom Coughlin missed the playoffs a few times, too - good thing for the Giants they stuck with him, no?

 

[glock]

It was a cap savings move, nothing more. They can still cut him after a couple of years if they want...but they won't. I'm not a huge Sanchez fan, so not trying to be a homer. Is he going to be a Brady, Brees, Rodgers type franchise QB? No. I think he will be a good QB for a long time. He's still young and doesn't have a ton of experience compared to other QBs his age. Does he make bad reads? Yes. Does he struggle with accuracy? Yes. He's not just a game manager though. He engineered several game-winning late comebacks two seasons ago. He did perform well in the playoffs. Sanchez has made some terrible plays. He's relatively short and has thrown a couple of game-killing INTs to d-lineman. Guess what? Even Eli Manning made some horrific repeated dumb plays. Two seasons ago, Eli made that what the hell was he doing 101 yard INT for a td where he basically flipped it up in the air from the one yard line. Hell, Eli had 25 INTs two seasons ago and now he is considered elite.Two things that you can not discount when evaluating Sanchez and saying that he regressed: 1)Wayne Hunter was one of the worst, if not worst, Right Tackles in the league. He allowed the most hits on the QB by a RT. Even All-Pro Ferguson allowed a lot of sacks and pressures on the left hand side. Even Brady wilts under pressure. 2) Offensive coordinator Schottenheimer: the scheme was awful. Teams were consistently correctly calling out the offensive plays. The offense had no rhythm because Mr. Trixster had players motioning around for no apparent reason other than creating offensive offsides. He would have 3 receivers running routes to the same spot and usually short of the first down marker. Anyway, the point being that this wasn't exactly the GB scheme. No QB could ever flourish under this Coordinator. One other thing: Mark gets paid like a top 7 QB. Well guess what, under the old system, any QB drafted in the top 5 was going to get a monster contract. Not much you can do about that. People criticizing the extension are just hating without realizing that the Jets are getting the benefit of this new deal with the cap savings and flexibility to dump Sanchez down the road if need be. Part of the hate stems from Rex being a loudmouth. I get that, but people need to give Sanchez more time to develop.

Sanchez is at his best when play action works. But we need a running game for that to happen.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

AFCCGAFCCGno playoffs

To be fair, the Jets were a #6 seed each of the years they made it to the AFCCG. This year they missed the #6 seed via a tiebreaker.I wonder if the Jets had gotten that tiebreaker (or won one more game) and made an unexpected run like they did the prior two years if people would still consider them a good team. Amazing how much one game can make a difference.

 

[Reaper]

AFCCGAFCCGno playoffs

To be fair, the Jets were a #6 seed each of the years they made it to the AFCCG. This year they missed the #6 seed via a tiebreaker.I wonder if the Jets had gotten that tiebreaker (or won one more game) and made an unexpected run like they did the prior two years if people would still consider them a good team. Amazing how much one game can make a difference.

It is funny.... Also funny How the NY media goes haywire either way as well...Media buys the whole SuperBowl or Bust thing last year while ALL-In on Complete disaster this year... Me? I'm exactly where I've been watching a team that can hopefully win 10 games and make a splash - My expectations are right where they were last year at this time.... Very little has changed yet, the perception is night and day.The Giants were a complete mess in week 9 and NY media / Radio talk was firing Coughlin while lauding the Jets chances and then BAM, one play for 99 yards in their matchup changes both fates.As far as Sanchez goes - Jeez, at this point Brees was barely holding on..... Never wanted him, but, damn, the whole team collapsed so badly around him, i can't draw the same conclusions given his limited College experience and no offseason last year that others can. That said, the whole Offensive MishMash that was Brian Shottenheimer and the way they mismatched OL scheme and complicated everything is gone... Things should be a lot simpler and we should get a much better idea where Sanchez is at - as well as OL like Ducasse.

 

[Max Power]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manning

Ultimately this merely guarantees Sanchez will be the starter in 2012 and 2013, which was going to be the case barring Manning anyway. But the timing does make you wonder. Jets were considered one of the young promising franchises just an offseason ago, but now feel like one making a lot of suspect choices.

Is it me, or is adding Tebow just going to make things harder for Sanchez?

 

[cstu]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manning

Ultimately this merely guarantees Sanchez will be the starter in 2012 and 2013, which was going to be the case barring Manning anyway. But the timing does make you wonder. Jets were considered one of the young promising franchises just an offseason ago, but now feel like one making a lot of suspect choices.

Is it me, or is adding Tebow just going to make things harder for Sanchez?

If he's a good QB it won't matter. The Chargers used the #4 pick on a QB but Brees put up a Pro Bowl season.

 

[Max Power]

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/7668318/new-york-jets-extend-mark-sanchez-deal-end-pursuit-peyton-manning

Ultimately this merely guarantees Sanchez will be the starter in 2012 and 2013, which was going to be the case barring Manning anyway. But the timing does make you wonder. Jets were considered one of the young promising franchises just an offseason ago, but now feel like one making a lot of suspect choices.

Is it me, or is adding Tebow just going to make things harder for Sanchez?

If he's a good QB it won't matter. The Chargers used the #4 pick on a QB but Brees put up a Pro Bowl season.

He is a good QB in a non-conventional way. Why commit to Sanchez and then bring in a #2 that needs his own custom playbook to succeed? Do the JETS plan on forcing the same Playbook on Tebow? That didn't work out well with Denver. Or do they spend valuable practice time learning a second offense.

Then you have the issue or bringing in a very polarizing person to the most polarized locker room Heck Cromartie Already tweeted about not wanting him there...

This is not going to end well for someone. Guessing who is the hard part.