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Jets-Browns Game (1 Viewer)
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footballman_696969
Footballguy
How does Stallworth look?
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Caught a couple short passes on the first drive.Braylon with a sick catch on the TDcurrently in weather delay
AtomicDogg97
Footballguy
Well this sucks.
That TD catch by Braylon was insane.
That TD catch by Braylon was insane.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Why aren't the NY games airing in the NYC area?
Al Toon's Mole
Footballguy
Can't get the game out west, how did the starting D unit look? 3-4 successful?
Gholston?? Pace??
TIA
Gholston?? Pace??
TIA
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
I was actually more impressed with another catch Clowney made where he went way up to get it while getting hit in the back. Some Jets fans were touting him as a sleeper last night, now I'm starting to pay a little attention.
Reaper
Footballguy
Other than Jenkins, Harris is the key to this defense and he didn't play....Gholston will take time... They looked like they have a lot of work to do IMO... But, completely expected at this point. Cleveland offense should be ahead of them.Stuckey and Clowney showing Jets WR depth.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Browns' 2TE sets are going to be very dangerous this year with Martin Rucker teamed with Winslow.
duece2626
Footballguy
NYCGangGreen
Footballguy
That sound was Clowney's stock blowing up!
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Reaper
Footballguy
DreamyHow's Favre look?
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awesomeness
Guest
Fair to say Ratliff and Clowney cemented their spots on the roster.That sound was Clowney's stock blowing up!
I am a Jets fan and have to say I am embarrased I do not know who Brett Ratliff is. Was he on the practice squad last year? Any chance he makes the roster of 53? I can't see the game so I do not know whether Clowney is making him look good or if he looks good on his own, but would love to hear some about him from those watching.That sound was Clowney's stock blowing up!
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Browns are going to be forced to blitz a lot this year. The DBs are garbage.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
yes, practice squad last year. He had some character issues in college, but Mangini gave him a chance. He's looking good tonight and has a good chance at sticking as the #3 qb. Ainge would have to go on IR/PS.I am a Jets fan and have to say I am embarrased I do not know who Brett Ratliff is. Was he on the practice squad last year? Any chance he makes the roster of 53? I can't see the game so I do not know whether Clowney is making him look good or if he looks good on his own, but would love to hear some about him from those watching.That sound was Clowney's stock blowing up!
NYCGangGreen
Footballguy
Jets have plenty of options at KR/PRLowery, Miller, Washington...
Should be pretty good S/T squad this year!
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Dorsey really sucks bad.....
as if we didn't already know
as if we didn't already know
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Their starters were fine.
chris1969
Footballguy
I was actually extremely impressed with the Browns for the first pre-season game. We dominated the first half even though our starters on offense and defense on played 1 series a piece. Mangina obviously wanted to win the first pre-season game and made sure our second stringers played their 1st stringers and our 3rd stringers played their 2nd's ect... We pretty much owned them with some exceptions. (Basically 3 big plays)Our depth at DB sucks as much as we thought it did. Clowney was faster than any 3rd stringer we could put on the field and probably faster than any second stringer.Lowery had a great run on a punt return, but our coverage unit was in place on that play. Lowery made a great first decision and got a couple of really good blocks. Other than that play, our special teams units dominated.I knew the Jets would be a good test, because they have rebuilt their o-line in a similar fashion as we did and are now focusing on the d-line, the same as we are.I knew we had a ton of depth at TE, but had no idea it was 5 or 6 deep.I was pleasantly surprised on how well some WR's I'd previously written off performed.I'm pretty sure my paper boy could do well returning punts and kicks for the Browns. It's pretty nice averaging your starts from the 40.Clowney isn't as good as the Brown's back-up DB's were bad. (Note to Phil, you need to get another DB)As far as Dorsey looked, I think he looked better than most 3rd string QB's given the pressure he was under. Man-boobies was blitzing every play and the camp fodder we had playing o-line at the time, couldn't pick up the blitzes. Also the young receivers dropped balls they should have caught. Dorsey had 2 bad plays when he forced a pass in 2 different desperate situations. Both of those were intercepted. Other than that, he played a great game. Quinn played a great game too. DA played good, but it's hard to analyze a QB that only throws 5 passes in a game.Once I start thinking about all the starters that didn't play in this game, I'm really stoked about the Brown's starters.The Jets made a good decision to get Favre, as QB seemed the weakest spot.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
How did Travis Wilson look ?
Crennel has been raving about him.
Is he looking like a cemented #3 ?
Crennel has been raving about him.
Is he looking like a cemented #3 ?
Captain Quinoa
Footballguy
Made a nice snag on a high, hard throw from Quinn on a quick slant for a first down. Caught a nice low throw down the seam for a 15-20 yard pick up. Don't remember any drops. That's all I recall off hand.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
I still can't believe they traded Bodden AND a 3rd for underachieving Shaun Rogers. Bodden is a very good corner.
Reaper
Footballguy
Nice "Mangina" touch....Anyway... That was pretty much a trial by fire for the Jets Defense and it's new players and to me THE KEY to the defense MLB David Harris didn't play..... Cleveland was actually one of the better offenses in the league last year, NO..... IMO, they Should have dominated - The Jets defense has A LOT of work to do....Gholston especially - He's basically changing positions, learning to cover and looked real lost at times.I don't think it was ManginI looking to win as much as letting guys like Gholston see as much action at NFL speed and getting guys on the field together for the 1st time....
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
Rogers has been anything but underachieving so far in camp and while Bodden is a decent CB, both Wright and McDonald have the ability to be just as good. In Wright's case, probably better.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Rogers always looks good for short periods of time. But eventually, his attitude goes in the tank along with his effort. He always plays great for half the games. This does not even factor in his conditioning. He is a classic underachiever and I don't see that changing. I also think you are underrating Bodden. I don't think either of those corners will be as good.
Fallerjw
Footballguy
I thought he looked solid. I think the Browns have the options to be sick on offense this year:Braylon with Wilson opposite, Stallworth in the slot, and Winslow at TE with Lewis in the backfield. How do you guard that?
Fallerjw
Footballguy
Bodden is VERY good, and underappreciated. It was clear that the Brown's front office's first priority was improving the defensive line. I feel like they did that. They may have gave up some value in the deal, but they still accomplished their first priority. We won't know if the move was worth it or not until the season is over.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Did Hubbard get any time at WR for the Browns?
obxlegends
Footballguy
Hubbard was 2 catches for 49 yards with most of that coming on a nice 44 yarder.
Fallerjw
Footballguy
He did have a nice catch, but also missed opportunities to make some nice plays in the last minute of the game.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
Well, he caught all of th eballs playing catch on the sidelines.jabarony said:How's Favre look?
Annoying thing about last night was that we had three games on (2 local, ESPN) and none the rest of the weekend. 
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
Thanks. I pretty much gave up on Wilson and picked up Hubbard in a dynasty league. Wondering if that will work out or if Wilson will finally have the light go on.
daveR
Footballguy
This & that...
The NY Bretts should be overvalued next week.
Wilson could make the Browns roster but probably will never be a significant contributor.
The sick TD catch by BE shows the chemistry he and Anderson have.
Browns CBs had better stay healthy. That applies to most positions. I didn't see much depth. RBs looked deep enough.
I was expecting more from the Browns defense. Aside from snuffing the 4th & 1, I didn't see much.
Stallworth was used underneath a lot. That surprised me. I was expecting them to go downfield more frequently.
Gholston looks like a rookie so far.
Of the four starting units, the only one that stood out at all was the Browns offense, and then only a little.
Jamaal Lewis looked very good.
Clowney beat a couple of bad defenders. I don't have any idea what the safeties were thinking.
Syndrick Steptoe is no Josh Cribbs.
There are a boatload of third-stringers I never heard of, and now I know why!
The NY Bretts should be overvalued next week.
Wilson could make the Browns roster but probably will never be a significant contributor.
The sick TD catch by BE shows the chemistry he and Anderson have.
Browns CBs had better stay healthy. That applies to most positions. I didn't see much depth. RBs looked deep enough.
I was expecting more from the Browns defense. Aside from snuffing the 4th & 1, I didn't see much.
Stallworth was used underneath a lot. That surprised me. I was expecting them to go downfield more frequently.
Gholston looks like a rookie so far.
Of the four starting units, the only one that stood out at all was the Browns offense, and then only a little.
Jamaal Lewis looked very good.
Clowney beat a couple of bad defenders. I don't have any idea what the safeties were thinking.
Syndrick Steptoe is no Josh Cribbs.
There are a boatload of third-stringers I never heard of, and now I know why!
amnesiac
beer is good
i was impressed with the progress Wilson has made. i think he'll make the roster.barring injury though, he's the 3rd WR, 4th receiving option behind Winslow, so now, probably not a major contributor, but definitely valuable depth at this point, with Jurevicous likely starting on PUP.
kaa
Footballguy
I concede the point that Rogers is a risk. On the other hand, some personality types are only motivated to perform if they play for a winner (see Randy Moss). Rogers did lead the NFL in tackles among all defensive linemen as a rookie (when he presumably was motivated). If the Browns are in the mix for a playoff spot, he might not get bored. I realize this isn't the ideal personality type, but it does mean such a player can be productive in the right environment. 2008 should tell us if indeed this is the problem with Rogers.Anthony Borbely said:
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
It's on STO right now. I missed this part of the game last night- Dorsey's first series- where and he and Rucker connected 2 times - Rucker was open both times and got some rac yards. The first one Dorsey was scrambling to his right and threw across his body to his left finding Rucker crossing left. The 2nd Rucker just slanted left, got behind the lb, in front of the safety and Dorsey hit him in stride for a big gain. Looked good to me on those plays.edit: Rucker dropped one that hit him right in his hands on the next series.
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MCguidance
Footballguy
It's amazing how differently we see the game. Just quickly, I think Clowney is that fast, and would beat most first stringers. Speed is his forte, route running (curls, outs, etc) are a different story. Second, Dorsey did look that bad - especially for being a veteran in this league. No offense, but Brett Ratliffe looked better than him. Pressed for time, so that's all for now.chris1969 said:
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I Tivo'd this game and I'm just getting around to watching it now.
Ian Eagle's interview with Joe Namath in the 2nd quarter... did he sound drunk to anyone else?
Ian Eagle's interview with Joe Namath in the 2nd quarter... did he sound drunk to anyone else?
chris1969
Footballguy
I agree on the speed of Clowney, but the Brown's back-ups made him look like T.O. Let's wait a couple of more weeks to crown him. As far as Ratliff looking better than Dorsey, you might want to re-watch the game and subtract 2 of Clowney's catches. For a guy that played almost the entire game, Dorsey had similar numbers. And he was blitzed every play by Mangina and The RB's in the Browns backfield didn't get the memo that they were supposed to block blitzers. Also the 4th string recievers missed the memo that they were supposed to catch the balls that hit them in the hands. I agree that we watched 2 different games, but I was happy because Dorsey didn't look stupid and your happy because you think Clowney is T.O. Which one of us do you think will be disappointed in the next pre-season game?
