Johnnymac
Footballguy
You would think even a hung jury would be a disaster in this case. Come on...
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Jodi Arias case (1 Viewer)
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identikit
Footballguy
Doubt it will be a hung jury.Very very different case than Anthony's.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
Can I get some Clifton's notes?
jamny
Footballguy
I haven't really watched much of it but decided to check it out today. They were going on forever about the camera and different poses in the shower and if she knew how to operate the camera and delete pics and who deleted pics. Mostly boring. Then he showed a pic from about 10 feet away of the guy dead in the shower and asked her to look at it. She started crying. He asked "were you crying when you shot him" "I don't remember" "were you crying when you stabbed him" "I don't remember" "were you crying when you slit his throat" "I don't remember" Then he asked her to point on the picture where she remembers standing when she saw that scene. She broke down, couldn't look at the picture, took off her glasses and the judge called a lunch recess. Should be good when it comes back.
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Aside from entertainment value, what is the point of having cameras in the courtroom?
T Bell
Footballguy
Do you really want Nancy Grace walking among us?
DougGlatt
Footballguy
She got annihilated on cross. She took the knife and gun and ditched them after the crime. She left a voice message to him after the death and an email detailing plans for the future with him and why she hadn't been around. She says she shot him 1st, but then stabbed him 12 more times and slit his throat. He was stabbed in the back of the head after being shot. Clearly not defense at that point. She fled the scene, staged the scene, cleaned up after, and lied repeatedly over and over. She is at the very least guilty of 2nd degree.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I agree. Pre-med (1st) might be hard, it seems like mainly post-murder cover up.
jamny
Footballguy
I didn't really follow the whole trial. Why was he chasing her thru the house?
Probably because she's a smoking hot 3 hole wonder.
DougGlatt
Footballguy
She said she dropped his camera while taking pictures of him in the shower. She says he lost it and screamed he was going to kill her and charged her like a linebacker.None of that really matters though. Even if he did (which we only have her word), She says she shot him in the head. No point in cutting his throat from ear to ear and stabbing him in the back and neck 12 times after that. Then deleting the pictures, cleaning up, removing the weapons, leaving a message on his machine to provide and alibi and another long email after that. She's lied to many times to believe anything she says.
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Was he chasing her or is that something only she said in her defense?
jamny
Footballguy
ah, ok...thx!I caught the testimony on the aftermath but never heard what triggered it.
Was any of that recorded somehow or just her description of what happened? I haven't really been following, but have been checking out the thread.
jamny
Footballguy
I'm not one to ask. Haven't followed much before yesterday. There is a mystery picture from the camera on the floor and there was discussion about her deleting pics.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I've seen nothing but her ever changing stories that side with her side of it. Seems like a slam dunk for at least murder 2 if the prosecution doesn't blow it.
DougGlatt
Footballguy
There were pictures taken and it looks like one was taken after the murder. Deleted, but they were recovered by the police.
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
I don't know, the fact that she went to a gas station out of state to fill up the cans so she didn't have to buy gas by his place. To turn the license plate upside down to not be picked up by any toll booths. To bring a gun with her because Travis did not own one. Mysteriously her grandparents are missing the same calibor gun. Seems like it was well planned before she even walked in the door. Then you add all teh things she did after the killing, with all the different stories she told.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Good stuff here, murder 1 is then attainable.
jamny
Footballguy
yeah, I didn't know most of that. wow.Did they ask her about the plates?Good stuff here, murder 1 is then attainable.
DougGlatt
Footballguy
Agree, good stuff. Murder 1 is doable. But at the very least she admitted to murder 2.Good stuff here, murder 1 is then attainable.
Geez, didn't know that either. This seems even more of a slam dunk than OJ/Casey Anthony and I thought both of them were guilty.yeah, I didn't know most of that. wow.Did they ask her about the plates?Good stuff here, murder 1 is then attainable.
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
yeah I think it was Day 3 of cross, and her answer was maybe some kids turned it upside down.yeah, I didn't know most of that. wow.Did they ask her about the plates?Good stuff here, murder 1 is then attainable.
Not to mention the memory loss. Basically everytime she said, "I don't remember." She could have just said, "S*** I didn't cover that up well enough did I?"
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
Is any murderer really that smart if they get caught? The other thing forgot to mention is she used a rental car instead of her car to drive to his house that night. Said her car used too much gas. There is so much against her, Murder in 2nd would be a failure of the justice system.
Tackling Dummies
Footballguy
Would not be too surprised by a death penalty conviction.
identikit
Footballguy
Watched a large part of this trial.Would not be at all surprised either.
identikit
Footballguy
Heard one of the talking heads on HLN saying that the jurors do not look at her while coming into the courtroom. Usually means they're going to vote 'guilty.'
jamny
Footballguy
I think she just freaks them out. She looks at them way too much, imo.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
'Doesn't anyone just break up anymore?'My wife today, on getting the basics of the story today for the first time.
hamster_13
Footballguy
There is still too much that doesn't add up for me. Dude is dead in his house for 5 days, the roomies have no idea? The police said they could smell rotting body before they even entered the house. Why couldn't the roomates? At least one of them went into the garage, walked right by the washing machine that had blood around it. Said nothing. We'll never know the full/real story. But we certainly aren't getting it from the stories she tells either.
Johnny Bing
Footballguy
Does it really matter the schedule of the roommates or why no one washed their clothes for 5 days? She already admitted she was the one that did it on the last day of cross examination. Her argument is it was self defense. 29 times, a slit throat, and a gun shot later she felt it was safe to stop.
CurlyNight
Footballguy
Then we have her male friend who visits her every day. He became "friends" with Jodi after she was arrested and believes it was self defense. What a dumb chit. Apparently Jodi told him that it will be a mistrial and at the next trial it will be manslaughter charge. She's so confident that it won't be a murder charge. It would be the worst misjustice if it isn't a murder charge!
CurlyNight
Footballguy
They also are pointing out that there have been jurors who look to have empathy for her. All she needs is one...... and there seems to be one who looks to be uncertain.
I almost wanted to believe her because she is fairly good looking but she's guilty as ####.She obviously planned it and while she deserves the death penalty I doubt the jury gives her it.1st degree murder is likely unless someone on the jury is a fool, which is very possible.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
I've been waiting for one of these shows to summarize it.JEEEEEEZ, was there no plea deal offered here at all?!? It is ridiculous how guilty she is. I take back what I said, no way she doesnt get convicted of at least murder 2. She's obviously a psychopath. I'm actually pissed now. I hope she fries.
she tried to plea to a murder 2 charge, prosecution said hell no.
T Bell
Footballguy
This is reading tea leaves. Some jurors' body language that's interpreted as empathy can in fact be representative of their efforts to try to understand her side out of a sense of duty as jurors. I tend to give some more credence to the averted eyes, but you just never know.
McGarnicle
Footballguy
Augh, I'm 50 minutes into Dateline and I want to fly out there and kick the living #### out of her. The stuff she made up about him looking at little boys online...just wow. I'm actually not a fan of the death penalty but I'd like to see it done to her, slowly. How sad and disgusting this is.
hamster_13
Footballguy
It matters, yes. I believe they were in on it. Remember he ran a pyramid scheme? Somebody lost money there, somebody always does. If it's the roomates, there is issues there. Remember one of her stories was two people came in? Just because she is admitting to doing it now does not mean that is what happened. There could easily be threats made to her family if she says anything other than "it was me." It's going to get REAL interesting when the other people take the stand.
Oh Em Gee on so many levels.
What "other people" are you expecting to take the stand now?
hamster_13
Footballguy
The roommates. They likely won't be up for long, but if you have been following their stories, they are just as full of holes as Jodies have been.Edit: Flores should also be called, there was some pretty terrible detective work done by him.
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