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New Jersey Drone Invasion (1 Viewer)

Senator Tim Kaine not exactly clarifying the situation …….

Sen. Tim Kaine on drones.
Kaine tells me he genuinely does NOT think the DOD, Homeland Security nor the FBI know what the drones over NJ are. Tells me if/when they find out, the DOD should make that information public.

Q- Do you think DOD has shot any down, but is keeping that information private?

Kaine- “I'm not sure I can answer that question without getting into classified information.”

Kaine on the Langley AFB drone incursion in Virginia one year ago:

“…with respect to Langley, I think they know what they are. I don't think they know whose they are.”
 
LOL. Just got a LinkedIn invite from a Director from a Chinese drone manufacturing company. Very topical.
Accept his invitation and see if you can schedule a call to pick his brain on the industry
Yeah, pretty sure it's a scam. My wife got a random text from the same person with the following message:

Hi there! Please excuse this "drone girl" for dropping by! While I can't take you to the stars and seas, I'd love to help you discover some breathtaking natural landscapes. As the Director of External Affairs, I've been so inspired by your journey and impressive profile on LinkedIn. As someone still exploring the platform, I'd be grateful for the opportunity to learn from your expertise. I hope our "drones" can bridge the distance, helping us connect, share insights, and grow together!
 
Senator Tim Kaine not exactly clarifying the situation …….

Sen. Tim Kaine on drones.
Kaine tells me he genuinely does NOT think the DOD, Homeland Security nor the FBI know what the drones over NJ are. Tells me if/when they find out, the DOD should make that information public.

Q- Do you think DOD has shot any down, but is keeping that information private?

Kaine- “I'm not sure I can answer that question without getting into classified information.”

Kaine on the Langley AFB drone incursion in Virginia one year ago:

“…with respect to Langley, I think they know what they are. I don't think they know whose they are.”
At least this little test lets us know who the compromised Congress reps are.
 

Drones are real. Drones are a genuine security issue. But what we are seeing with the New Jersey scare is not drones. All cases with sufficient information turned out not to be large drones.



Mick West claims the "drones" in New Jersey have not been drones, but when given the Date, Time and Location, he has shown them to be planes, satellites, planets, and stars.

:shrug:
 

Drones are real. Drones are a genuine security issue. But what we are seeing with the New Jersey scare is not drones. All cases with sufficient information turned out not to be large drones.



Mick West claims the "drones" in New Jersey have not been drones, but when given the Date, Time and Location, he has shown them to be planes, satellites, planets, and stars.

:shrug:
Nope. Have their been mistakes 100%

You go on flightaware or adsb tracker and their was no aircraft in my area at that time. I know the difference.
 
Senator Tim Kaine not exactly clarifying the situation …….

Sen. Tim Kaine on drones.
Kaine tells me he genuinely does NOT think the DOD, Homeland Security nor the FBI know what the drones over NJ are. Tells me if/when they find out, the DOD should make that information public.

Q- Do you think DOD has shot any down, but is keeping that information private?

Kaine- “I'm not sure I can answer that question without getting into classified information.”

Kaine on the Langley AFB drone incursion in Virginia one year ago:

“…with respect to Langley, I think they know what they are. I don't think they know whose they are.”
At least this little test lets us know who the compromised Congress reps are.
You are full into this conspiracy. I respect the determination!
 
Senator Tim Kaine not exactly clarifying the situation …….

Sen. Tim Kaine on drones.
Kaine tells me he genuinely does NOT think the DOD, Homeland Security nor the FBI know what the drones over NJ are. Tells me if/when they find out, the DOD should make that information public.

Q- Do you think DOD has shot any down, but is keeping that information private?

Kaine- “I'm not sure I can answer that question without getting into classified information.”

Kaine on the Langley AFB drone incursion in Virginia one year ago:

“…with respect to Langley, I think they know what they are. I don't think they know whose they are.”
At least this little test lets us know who the compromised Congress reps are.
You are full into this conspiracy. I respect the determination!
Is it a conspiracy though? There clearly is something going on. I think the government knows what is going on. They should say something concrete, even if it’s a half truth, because the empty space is just getting filled with ideas now. And some is going to take one down a damage property or hurt someone soon.
 
Senator Tim Kaine not exactly clarifying the situation …….

Sen. Tim Kaine on drones.
Kaine tells me he genuinely does NOT think the DOD, Homeland Security nor the FBI know what the drones over NJ are. Tells me if/when they find out, the DOD should make that information public.

Q- Do you think DOD has shot any down, but is keeping that information private?

Kaine- “I'm not sure I can answer that question without getting into classified information.”

Kaine on the Langley AFB drone incursion in Virginia one year ago:

“…with respect to Langley, I think they know what they are. I don't think they know whose they are.”
At least this little test lets us know who the compromised Congress reps are.
You are full into this conspiracy. I respect the determination!
Is it a conspiracy though? There clearly is something going on. I think the government knows what is going on. They should say something concrete, even if it’s a half truth, because the empty space is just getting filled with ideas now. And some is going to take one down a damage property or hurt someone soon.
Assuming these drone sightings are real, whatever is happening definitely qualifies as a "conspiracy" by any standard. Somebody is doing something for purposes that they won't explain and won't acknowledge, and they're trying to work together to keep the public from finding out. If that doesn't qualify as a conspiracy, what does that word even mean?

Basically your choice is between "social hysteria" and "conspiracy." There is no other alternative at this point.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I grew up in the flight path for LAX. Much the same way. Very far away, but I could see them lined up in double lines for each runway. It was pretty cool to watch as a kid.
 
Senator Tim Kaine not exactly clarifying the situation …….

Sen. Tim Kaine on drones.
Kaine tells me he genuinely does NOT think the DOD, Homeland Security nor the FBI know what the drones over NJ are. Tells me if/when they find out, the DOD should make that information public.

Q- Do you think DOD has shot any down, but is keeping that information private?

Kaine- “I'm not sure I can answer that question without getting into classified information.”

Kaine on the Langley AFB drone incursion in Virginia one year ago:

“…with respect to Langley, I think they know what they are. I don't think they know whose they are.”
At least this little test lets us know who the compromised Congress reps are.
You are full into this conspiracy. I respect the determination!
Is it a conspiracy though? There clearly is something going on. I think the government knows what is going on. They should say something concrete, even if it’s a half truth, because the empty space is just getting filled with ideas now. And some is going to take one down a damage property or hurt someone soon.
Assuming these drone sightings are real, whatever is happening definitely qualifies as a "conspiracy" by any standard. Somebody is doing something for purposes that they won't explain and won't acknowledge, and they're trying to work together to keep the public from finding out. If that doesn't qualify as a conspiracy, what does that word even mean?

Basically your choice is between "social hysteria" and "conspiracy." There is no other alternative at this point.
When John Kirby gets up on the podium and says "we have no idea what these are, but by looking at citizen images you have nothing to worry about" you know this is a massive lie. That was the worst cover job I've ever seen from a govt. official. Hysterical that anyone would bite and give that a shred of credibility.
 
Senator Tim Kaine not exactly clarifying the situation …….

Sen. Tim Kaine on drones.
Kaine tells me he genuinely does NOT think the DOD, Homeland Security nor the FBI know what the drones over NJ are. Tells me if/when they find out, the DOD should make that information public.

Q- Do you think DOD has shot any down, but is keeping that information private?

Kaine- “I'm not sure I can answer that question without getting into classified information.”

Kaine on the Langley AFB drone incursion in Virginia one year ago:

“…with respect to Langley, I think they know what they are. I don't think they know whose they are.”
At least this little test lets us know who the compromised Congress reps are.
You are full into this conspiracy. I respect the determination!
Is it a conspiracy though? There clearly is something going on. I think the government knows what is going on. They should say something concrete, even if it’s a half truth, because the empty space is just getting filled with ideas now. And some is going to take one down a damage property or hurt someone soon.
Assuming these drone sightings are real, whatever is happening definitely qualifies as a "conspiracy" by any standard. Somebody is doing something for purposes that they won't explain and won't acknowledge, and they're trying to work together to keep the public from finding out. If that doesn't qualify as a conspiracy, what does that word even mean?

Basically your choice is between "social hysteria" and "conspiracy." There is no other alternative at this point.
When John Kirby gets up on the podium and says "we have no idea what these are, but by looking at citizen images you have nothing to worry about" you know this is a massive lie. That was the worst cover job I've ever seen from a govt. official. Hysterical that anyone would bite and give that a shred of credibility.
I get that, but without getting political, all parties are basically mum on the issue. Very peculiar.

I still think it's meant to be a distraction, because this is exactly how a distraction should work. But why, and why here?
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helos and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.
 
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As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.
I was also very close to LAPD headquarters. Helicopters all the time.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yeah... I didn't bring that up to discount actual drones sightings. I think it's pretty clear there are actual drone sightings- people are dumb, but not THAT dumb to mistake every sighting.

My uninformed 2c- one of those military bases are running drills with drones, real or practice- that they don't want to fully divulge or acknowledge. Look at me chuckleheads are now adding to that with their own drones because, look at me. People are seeing both sets of these drones and also wanting/expecting to see drones, so theyre also mistaking "normal" aircraft.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yeah... I didn't bring that up to discount actual drones sightings. I think it's pretty clear there are actual drone sightings- people are dumb, but not THAT dumb to mistake every sighting.

My uninformed 2c- one of those military bases are running drills with drones, real or practice- that they don't want to fully divulge or acknowledge. Look at me chuckleheads are now adding to that with their own drones because, look at me. People are seeing both sets of these drones and also wanting/expecting to see drones, so theyre also mistaking "normal" aircraft.
There are also lots of people outside at night looking for things now who haven't been outside gazing at the night sky in years, and aren't familiar with what their sky normally looks like.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yeah... I didn't bring that up to discount actual drones sightings. I think it's pretty clear there are actual drone sightings- people are dumb, but not THAT dumb to mistake every sighting.

My uninformed 2c- one of those military bases are running drills with drones, real or practice- that they don't want to fully divulge or acknowledge. Look at me chuckleheads are now adding to that with their own drones because, look at me. People are seeing both sets of these drones and also wanting/expecting to see drones, so theyre also mistaking "normal" aircraft.
Interesting and probably true that regular people are joining in just to mess around.

I read recently how Colorado(and maybe Nebraska) went thru this four years ago. After all the "who is doing it" they seemed to settle on a military person neither confirming nor denying it was them.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yeah... I didn't bring that up to discount actual drones sightings. I think it's pretty clear there are actual drone sightings- people are dumb, but not THAT dumb to mistake every sighting.

My uninformed 2c- one of those military bases are running drills with drones, real or practice- that they don't want to fully divulge or acknowledge. Look at me chuckleheads are now adding to that with their own drones because, look at me. People are seeing both sets of these drones and also wanting/expecting to see drones, so theyre also mistaking "normal" aircraft.
There are also lots of people outside at night looking for things now who haven't been outside gazing at the night sky in years, and aren't familiar with what their sky normally looks like.
Look at mes need look at yous.
 
This entire thing just seems silly to me and is a reflection of how people feel about both parties of government. Most people just want honest real answers. We get told riddles that are said to be in our best interest. Just silly.

Side note. Years ago I was attached to a military drone unit in Iraq. This was 20 years ago and they were amazing. Fast forward 20 years and I can only imagine what the capabilities are today. I feel a large portion of the public think 200 dollar Walmart drones when the topic comes up. That's far from the case.

All my opinion of course.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yep. Same. We're under the Newark approach. My neighbor and I both use FlightAware to track planes vs. just assuming when we're looking up for things. It's pretty easy to see what's a commercial flight and what isn't. That doesn't rule out all aircraft, as a lot of private planes don't have to file flight plans...but...in this area, this close to Newark and the NY airspace, you can only fly up to a certain altitude without ATC contact. It's basically an inverted wedding cake over the airport in terms of controlled airspace - the higher you go, the further out the controlled space - so that means anything you see around where I am that isn't on FlightAware is relatively low.

I have my private pilot's license - so while I'm far from an expert in drone spotting, I've spent time in the sky at night to be able to tell what "looks" like aircraft based on lights, and at least directionally feel like I can judge altitude and speed well enough to rule out certain things.

There are things up there that are relatively low and fly too slow to be a plane, but are a bit small to be a full-on helicopter - so I'm pretty confident there are drones up there unless this is some kind of new personal hover-capable piloted craft.
 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yeah... I didn't bring that up to discount actual drones sightings. I think it's pretty clear there are actual drone sightings- people are dumb, but not THAT dumb to mistake every sighting.

My uninformed 2c- one of those military bases are running drills with drones, real or practice- that they don't want to fully divulge or acknowledge. Look at me chuckleheads are now adding to that with their own drones because, look at me. People are seeing both sets of these drones and also wanting/expecting to see drones, so theyre also mistaking "normal" aircraft.
There are also lots of people outside at night looking for things now who haven't been outside gazing at the night sky in years, and aren't familiar with what their sky normally looks like.
Look at mes need look at yous.
Don't forget about Lous
 
Wright Patterson closed Friday due to drone flyovers. And evidently the drones are back today. This is one of our biggest, most important air bases - i.e. no joke when they close the place down.

 
As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yeah... I didn't bring that up to discount actual drones sightings. I think it's pretty clear there are actual drone sightings- people are dumb, but not THAT dumb to mistake every sighting.

My uninformed 2c- one of those military bases are running drills with drones, real or practice- that they don't want to fully divulge or acknowledge. Look at me chuckleheads are now adding to that with their own drones because, look at me. People are seeing both sets of these drones and also wanting/expecting to see drones, so theyre also mistaking "normal" aircraft.
Interesting and probably true that regular people are joining in just to mess around.

I read recently how Colorado(and maybe Nebraska) went thru this four years ago. After all the "who is doing it" they seemed to settle on a military person neither confirming nor denying it was them.
I am from Nebraska, and we did indeed go through this a few years ago. My wife even witnessed a large drone driving home from work one evening. It was all over the news locally and the local authorities had no answers. Then they were gone and never spoken about again. We still don't know where they originated from or what they were doing.
 
"It is inconceivable that the federal government has no answers nor has taken any action to get to the bottom of the unidentified drones. The fecklessness of this administration was on display last year when a Chinese surveillance balloon was allowed to fly over the entire continental United States before being shot down. Such should be viewed as a threat to our nation and citizens and action is long overdue. We have recourses and assets in our arsenal to get answers, but I suppose Ukraine is more important to the White House. January 20th can’t come soon enough." -- serious words said by Pennsylvania state senator.

Who then proceeds to post a picture of a TIE fighter. :lmao:
 
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As an aside, here's a dumb point...

I grew up far away but in eyesight of the approach path to SFO, essentially looking straight down the runways (but from very far away and we couldn't see the runways). This vantage always made it seem like there was a string of lights "hovering" in the sky... Because they were flying straight at us in a lineup.

Not saying that explains the drones, but it's an element I haven't seen brought up by the covert government operatives covering things up in the articles I've read or seen posted here.
I understand all these thoughts....

I lived in the same house for 22 years. I can tell you almost every flight path/pattern in this area and when. I also work in the industry.

I also 100% know that people are mistaking helis and small aircraft for drones.

But I'm fairly confident there are actual drones and sightings.

Yeah... I didn't bring that up to discount actual drones sightings. I think it's pretty clear there are actual drone sightings- people are dumb, but not THAT dumb to mistake every sighting.

My uninformed 2c- one of those military bases are running drills with drones, real or practice- that they don't want to fully divulge or acknowledge. Look at me chuckleheads are now adding to that with their own drones because, look at me. People are seeing both sets of these drones and also wanting/expecting to see drones, so theyre also mistaking "normal" aircraft.
Interesting and probably true that regular people are joining in just to mess around.

I read recently how Colorado(and maybe Nebraska) went thru this four years ago. After all the "who is doing it" they seemed to settle on a military person neither confirming nor denying it was them.
I am from Nebraska, and we did indeed go through this a few years ago. My wife even witnessed a large drone driving home from work one evening. It was all over the news locally and the local authorities had no answers. Then they were gone and never spoken about again. We still don't know where they originated from or what they were doing.
I find this so interesting and I wonder how it relates.
If you asked me another time I would have said there's no way this could happen with today's social media and tech and we don't know what's what. Add in the FOIA organizations and...it's so surprising
 
IMO the drones are practicing scanning for gamma radiation. It's a classified program so they can't acknowledge it.

See Ukraine:

 
Ryan Graves on the WMD theory in a 15 minute clip from Rogan today. Interesting tidbit on Langley saying this was the 3rd year in a row they were there in December and were expecting the “drones”


 
Ryan Graves on the WMD theory in a 15 minute clip from Rogan today. Interesting tidbit on Langley saying this was the 3rd year in a row they were there in December and were expecting the “drones”


Just asking...but are "we" supposed to know who that is?

Why can we believe him?

Not trying to argue just have no clue who he is
 
Ryan Graves on the WMD theory in a 15 minute clip from Rogan today. Interesting tidbit on Langley saying this was the 3rd year in a row they were there in December and were expecting the “drones”


Just asking...but are "we" supposed to know who that is?

Why can we believe him?

Not trying to argue just have no clue who he is
Who are any of us, really.
 
Classified briefing with assurances that nothing “nefarious" is going on. Sure. The government has been dismissing this for days as “you are imagining things”, so why the need for a classified briefing then?
 
Ryan Graves on the WMD theory in a 15 minute clip from Rogan today. Interesting tidbit on Langley saying this was the 3rd year in a row they were there in December and were expecting the “drones”


Just asking...but are "we" supposed to know who that is?

Why can we believe him?

Not trying to argue just have no clue who he is
Who are any of us, really.
How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?
 
Ryan Graves on the WMD theory in a 15 minute clip from Rogan today. Interesting tidbit on Langley saying this was the 3rd year in a row they were there in December and were expecting the “drones”


Just asking...but are "we" supposed to know who that is?

Why can we believe him?

Not trying to argue just have no clue who he is
Who are any of us, really.
How can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?
Settle down, Schrodinger
 

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