Jodi Arias case (1 Viewer)

[lod01]

I don't think M1 is necessarily off the table. They seem to be the type to want to go through all the evidence to make sure because after all, deciding to take someone's life as a juror in there has to weigh heavy on them vs us out here.

They spoke to a juror who was on the MJ wrongful death case. I forget the cardiac doc's name. She said it doesn't mean M1 is off the table. In her situation, they spent a lot of time going through just the jury instructions to make sure they all understood it. Then even though they all thought guilty they still went through all the evidence, testimony, etc to make sure- and this guy wasn't facing a death penalty. So let alone this case. She said it's a lot of pressure and it's got to be worse for them who have to consider the death penalty.

Most folks are saying they will take their time and it'll probably be Friday for the verdict. If it goes through the weekend then that's where you worry about hung jury.

One thing to keep in mind is that they are not deciding her sentence at this point. The only thing they should be thinking about is guilt or innocence on whatever charge. Even if they find her guilty of murder 1 doesnt mean she gets the death penalty.

I can't imagine them not thinking about it even though they aren't supposed to right now. :dunno: I'd actually rather her do life in prison with no parole so she can live each minute in hell on earth rather than the easy way out.

Actually you would want death row because, with the average length being 12 years and this being such a bizarre case, she will likely spend way more than 12 years on death row with appeals.

 

[lod01]

I'd say not looking good. May be a juror or 2 holding out for a lesser charge.

I would agree. I'm guessing 1st degree is already off the table. They are trying to decide between 2nd degree and manslaughter. What a sham if I'm right.

I think it's between 1st and 2nd and there are holdouts on both ends. Ladies, we are heading towards a hung jury and ROUND 2!!!!

They said the jury can't claim mistrial that easily. Judge sends them back in and encourages them to work it out. Only if there is absolutely no way will it be hung jury. I'm sure the taxpayers including the jurors don't want to pay another million or more again so I think they will get it done, but it's going to take longer than we'd like.

It will require 2 stubborn people, 1 for M1, one for a lesser charge but it is possible.

 

[CurlyNight]

Seems it goes to automatic appeal if she gets the premed verdict. They say Nurmi has a list of all the snafus ready to go if this happens.

One is the no jury sequestration. How can you be sure all 18 people went home in AZ in a vacuum in a sense, with not seeing any tv, internet, folks around you talking- for months. I mean juror 5 was tossed for talking.

This thing won't be over for a long time. :(

 

[CurlyNight]

Verdict Reached!! To be announced 1:30 PT!

 

[Sarnoff]

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[Sarnoff]

Today's like Christmas, your birthday, Bar Mitzvah, and losing your virginity all rolled into one, isn't Curly?

 

[CurlyNight]

Today's like Christmas, your birthday, Bar Mitzvah, and losing your virginity all rolled into one, isn't Curly?

I do like seeing justice done, hopefully this case won't be like OJ and Casey Anthony. Something wrong with that?

 

[Sarnoff]

This CurlyNight person is supposedly a scammer from another site. Why is he allowed to post here at all?

It'd be hilarious if a mod banned him for a day, starting at 1:25 PT

 

[Sinn Fein]

Today's like Christmas, your birthday, Bar Mitzvah, and losing your virginity all rolled into one, isn't Curly?

I do like seeing justice done, hopefully this case won't be like OJ and Casey Anthony. Something wrong with that?

How do you know justice wasn't done in those other cases?

 

[CurlyNight]

Wow, nothing else better to say than attack. Carry on!

 

[Franknbeans]

Donald Trump getting involved and on with Nancy Disgrace right now.

finally, a voice of reason

 

[DougGlatt]

Well it took longer than I thought it would. But I've never been on a jury, so what do I know?

 

[Zow]

Seems it goes to automatic appeal if she gets the premed verdict. They say Nurmi has a list of all the snafus ready to go if this happens.

One is the no jury sequestration. How can you be sure all 18 people went home in AZ in a vacuum in a sense, with not seeing any tv, internet, folks around you talking- for months. I mean juror 5 was tossed for talking.

This thing won't be over for a long time. :(

All defendants have the constitutional right to at least one appeal. It's mandatory for death penalty cases.

 

[Zow]

"They said the jury can't claim mistrial that easily. "

A jury can't claim a mis-trial period. Only a judge can declare a mis-trial. A jury can report back they they are deadlocked/hung.

And with all due respect, myself and other lawyers told you it is not uncommon at all to expect the jury to be out for a few days. Relax, toots.

 

[Zow]

This CurlyNight person is supposedly a scammer from another site. Why is he allowed to post here at all?

It'd be hilarious if a mod banned him for a day, starting at 1:25 PT

it's a chick.

 

[CurlyNight]

Thanks Zow for your input. I am relaxed, believe it or not.

 

[moderated]

In a weird way i'm rooting for less then murder one just to get some good sound clips out of Nancy Grace.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Well it took longer than I thought it would. But I've never been on a jury, so what do I know?

I served on a capital murder jury. The actual case took about 3 weeks and we were deliberating for about 4 days. Literally within an hour everybody except for 1 person had a guilty verdict. It took 3 days of going over all the evidence to finally get the holdout to change their mind. What really slows things down is if someone has to go to the bathroom you have to stop deliberating and wait for the person to return. Plus, there is a lot of evidence to go over. I can't imagine having to review months of evidence.

Then we had another mini-trial for the capital murder portion (death or life sentence) and another deliberation. That only took a couple hours because the holdout refused to sentence to death. During the capital murder portion, evidence was presented that the defendant was already doing a life sentence for murder (and would now be doing a double life) sentence.

 

[culdeus]

it is pathetic how much air cnn is giving this. If it wasn't for cnn I'm convinced this wouldn't even make it past a 60 minutes feature.

 

[CurlyNight]

Well it took longer than I thought it would. But I've never been on a jury, so what do I know?

I served on a capital murder jury. The actual case took about 3 weeks and we were deliberating for about 4 days. Literally within an hour everybody except for 1 person had a guilty verdict. It took 3 days of going over all the evidence to finally get the holdout to change their mind. What really slows things down is if someone has to go to the bathroom you have to stop deliberating and wait for the person to return. Plus, there is a lot of evidence to go over. I can't imagine having to review months of evidence.

Then we had another mini-trial for the capital murder portion (death or life sentence) and another deliberation. That only took a couple hours because the holdout refused to sentence to death. During the capital murder portion, evidence was presented that the defendant was already doing a life sentence for murder (and would now be doing a double life) sentence.

Was there any time that after it was done that you wondered if you made the right decision- if it was a case like this where who really knows what happened but the 2 people involved, that it could go either way really?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Did they fry her yet?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Well it took longer than I thought it would. But I've never been on a jury, so what do I know?

I served on a capital murder jury. The actual case took about 3 weeks and we were deliberating for about 4 days. Literally within an hour everybody except for 1 person had a guilty verdict. It took 3 days of going over all the evidence to finally get the holdout to change their mind. What really slows things down is if someone has to go to the bathroom you have to stop deliberating and wait for the person to return. Plus, there is a lot of evidence to go over. I can't imagine having to review months of evidence.

Then we had another mini-trial for the capital murder portion (death or life sentence) and another deliberation. That only took a couple hours because the holdout refused to sentence to death. During the capital murder portion, evidence was presented that the defendant was already doing a life sentence for murder (and would now be doing a double life) sentence.

Was there any time that after it was done that you wondered if you made the right decision- if it was a case like this where who really knows what happened but the 2 people involved, that it could go either way really?

No not at all. They had 4 or 5 witnesses who all testified to the same thing. They had evidence (bullet tracking that showed the direction that the guns were fired) that corraborated the witness testimony of the events. They even had a confession by the defendant that he was at the scene and fired a weapon.

ETA: Plus, as I said before, we found out the guy was already doing life in prison so we just added on another life sentence. The guy was never getting out of jail regardless of our case.

 

[lod01]

This CurlyNight person is supposedly a scammer from another site. Why is he allowed to post here at all?

It'd be hilarious if a mod banned him for a day, starting at 1:25 PT

it's a chick.

That's what I thought. Chick on FBG boards.

 

[DougGlatt]

Well it took longer than I thought it would. But I've never been on a jury, so what do I know?

I served on a capital murder jury. The actual case took about 3 weeks and we were deliberating for about 4 days. Literally within an hour everybody except for 1 person had a guilty verdict. It took 3 days of going over all the evidence to finally get the holdout to change their mind. What really slows things down is if someone has to go to the bathroom you have to stop deliberating and wait for the person to return. Plus, there is a lot of evidence to go over. I can't imagine having to review months of evidence.

Then we had another mini-trial for the capital murder portion (death or life sentence) and another deliberation. That only took a couple hours because the holdout refused to sentence to death. During the capital murder portion, evidence was presented that the defendant was already doing a life sentence for murder (and would now be doing a double life) sentence.

So by your experience, this was pretty fast. Interesting.

I was making the assumption that most would pretty much have their mind made up by the end.

 

[NDyse10]

Here we go.

 

[Sarnoff]

This CurlyNight person is supposedly a scammer from another site. Why is he allowed to post here at all?

It'd be hilarious if a mod banned him for a day, starting at 1:25 PT

it's a chick.

Oh. Well that explains almost everything.

 

[jamny]

murder 1!

 

[Novice2]

This will soon be over.

 

[Sarnoff]

I'm just glad the victims got out of this OK.

 

[CurlyNight]

Thank God!

 

[got_nugs]

Guilty woah

 

[Kal El]

Now maybe she can vanish from the headlines.

 

[17seconds]

Damn CNN.com is slow as molasses with breaking news. Thank god for the FFA

 

[Sarnoff]

Defense should move to set aside the jury's verdict and have the judge rule directly.

 

[CurlyNight]

Almost like Jodi expected it. No real emotional breakdown.

 

[McGarnicle]

Woooohooooooo!!!!!!! Die ##### die!!!!

 

[Green and Gold]

Damn CNN.com is slow as molasses with breaking news. Thank god for the FFA

They were much quicker when they just made stuff up.

 

[lod01]

Almost like Jodi expected it. No real emotional breakdown.

If she has any sanity left in her body, how could she not expect it.

 

[DougGlatt]

Almost like Jodi expected it. No real emotional breakdown.

Seriously. Like she was expecting it.

 

[hamster_13]

I still don't agree with it. But congratulations to those adamant about m1.

 

[mad sweeney]

I still don't agree with it. But congratulations to those adamant about m1.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I'm far from picky, but you guys really think she is soooo hot?

I'd say she's in top 10 when it comes to murderers.

Yes, much hotter than Squeaky Fromme.

 

[CurlyNight]

Almost like Jodi expected it. No real emotional breakdown.

If she has any sanity left in her body, how could she not expect it.

Well she did say first no jury will ever convict me, mark my words. Then later on she guaranteed a mistrial worst case scenaro. She's narcissistic so not so surprising in that sense.

 

[NDyse10]

And let the appeals begin.

 

[DougGlatt]

At what point, if ever, does she admit what she did in complete honesty? I know anything she ever says will have to be taken as a possible lie considering she is a liar. But maybe she comes clean at some point?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

"The casting notice for "Dirty Little Secret: The Jodi Arias Story" hit the web last week, which got us thinking about who should play the role of Arias"

I'd say someone whose career needs a good jolt.

 

[CurlyNight]

I want to see if she will ever apologize to the Travis's family. I hope we can watch when the family members speak in the courtroom and she has to listen to what she really has done to everyone involved.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I hope we find out if the jury went premed because the gas can bs or simply that she killed him "3 times over". The second 2 would definitely qualify IMHO

 

[CurlyNight]

"The casting notice for "Dirty Little Secret: The Jodi Arias Story" hit the web last week, which got us thinking about who should play the role of Arias"

I'd say someone whose career needs a good jolt.

Lindsay Lohan fits the bill.

 

[jamny]

I think the daughter from the show The Americans could play Jodi as a kid.

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