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(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:

 
In the meantime, mock this draft through the first 84 picks. I pulled ADP from somewhere on FBG; take it with a grain of salt due to our league lineup requirements.

Owner Selection Player Position Bye ADP Pick Pick minus ADPLAJ 1.01 LeSean McCoy RB 7 2 1 -1LAJ 2.16 Victor Cruz WR 8 39 32 -7LAJ 3.01 Julius Thomas TE 4 30 33 3LAJ 4.16 Terrance Williams WR 11 85 64 -21LAJ 5.01 Cam Newton QB 12 67 65 -2 Flap/Icon 1.02 Jamaal Charles RB 6 1 2 1Flap/Icon 2.15 Pierre Garcon WR 10 35 31 -4Flap/Icon 3.02 Roddy White WR 9 48 34 -14Flap/Icon 4.15 Emmanuel Sanders WR 4 76 63 -13Flap/Icon 5.02 Ryan Mathews RB 10 41 66 25 The Ref 1.03 Calvin Johnson WR 9 5 3 -2The Ref 2.14 Larry Fitzgerald WR 4 38 30 -8The Ref 3.03 Julian Edelman WR 10 73 35 -38The Ref 4.14 Jason Witten TE 11 66 62 -4The Ref 5.03 Alfred Morris RB 10 26 67 41 Greggity 1.04 Adrian Peterson RB 10 3 4 1Greggity 2.13 Arian Foster RB 10 16 29 13Greggity 3.04 Cordarrelle Patterson WR 10 46 36 -10Greggity 4.13 Sammy Watkins WR 9 78 61 -17Greggity 5.04 Matt Ryan QB 9 72 68 -4Greggity 5.06 Kelvin Benjamin WR 12 134 70 -64 RN 1.05 Dez Bryant WR 11 11 5 -6RN 2.12 Andre Johnson WR 10 37 28 -9RN 3.05 Wes Welker WR 4 44 37 -7RN 4.12 Shane Vereen RB 10 55 60 5RN 5.05 Reggie Wayne WR 10 92 69 -23 cosjobs 1.06 Matt Forte RB 9 4 6 2cosjobs 2.11 DeMarco Murray RB 11 13 27 14cosjobs 3.06 Doug Martin RB 7 22 38 16cosjobs 4.11 Robert Griffin III QB 10 65 59 -6 Unlucky 1.07 Demaryius Thomas WR 4 8 7 -1Unlucky 2.10 LeVeon Bell RB 12 17 26 9Unlucky 3.07 Michael Floyd WR 4 58 39 -19Unlucky 4.10 Eric Decker WR 11 83 58 -25Unlucky 5.07 Rashad Jennings RB 8 59 71 12 jon_mx 1.08 A.J. Green WR 4 12 8 -4jon_mx 2.09 Marshawn Lynch RB 4 10 25 15jon_mx 3.08 Matthew Stafford QB 9 40 40 0jon_mx 4.09 Marques Colston WR 6 77 57 -20jon_mx 5.08 Seattle Seahawks TD 4 82 72 -10 ECB 1.09 Brandon Marshall WR 9 18 9 -9ECB 2.08 Montee Ball RB 4 14 24 10ECB 3.09 Andre Ellington RB 4 32 41 9ECB 4.08 Mike Wallace WR 5 74 56 -18ECB 5.09 Chris Johnson RB 11 54 73 19 timschochet 1.10 Jimmy Graham TE 6 7 10 3timschochet 2.07 Vincent Jackson WR 7 36 23 -13timschochet 3.10 Andrew Luck QB 10 45 42 -3timschochet 4.07 Toby Gerhart RB 11 42 55 13timschochet 5.10 Mike Evans WR 7 102 74 -28 Pumpnick 1.11 Julio Jones WR 9 15 11 -4Pumpnick 2.06 Rob Gronkowski TE 10 27 22 -5Pumpnick 3.11 Percy Harvin WR 4 47 43 -4Pumpnick 4.06 Torrey Smith WR 11 63 54 -9Pumpnick 5.11 Nick Foles QB 7 61 75 14 Phrozen 1.12 Antonio Brown WR 12 25 12 -13Phrozen 2.05 Keenan Allen WR 10 34 21 -13Phrozen 3.12 Kendall Wright WR 9 79 44 -35Phrozen 4.05 Zac Stacy RB 4 28 53 25Phrozen 5.12 Riley Cooper WR 7 106 76 -30 Rikishiboy 1.13 Eddie Lacy RB 9 6 13 7Rikishiboy 2.04 Aaron Rodgers QB 9 19 20 1Rikishiboy 3.13 Michael Crabtree WR 8 43 45 2Rikishiboy 4.04 Reggie Bush RB 9 33 52 19Rikishiboy 5.13 Golden Tate WR 9 88 77 -11Rikishiboy 6.04 Greg Olsen TE 12 81 84 3 Bonzai 1.14 Jordy Nelson WR 9 24 14 -10Bonzai 2.03 Peyton Manning QB 4 9 19 10Bonzai 3.14 DeSean Jackson WR 10 50 46 -4Bonzai 4.03 C.J. Spiller RB 9 31 51 20Bonzai 5.14 Dwayne Bowe WR 6 101 78 -23Bonzai 6.03 Vernon Davis TE 8 56 83 27 Mister CIA 1.15 Randall Cobb WR 9 29 15 -14Mister CIA 2.02 Drew Brees QB 6 21 18 -3Mister CIA 3.15 Brandin Cooks WR 6 105 47 -58Mister CIA 4.02 Jeremy Maclin WR 7 69 50 -19Mister CIA 5.15 Ray Rice RB 11 60 79 19Mister CIA 6.02 Trent Richardson RB 10 52 82 30 Getzlaf15 1.16 Alshon Jeffery WR 9 23 16 -7Getzlaf15 2.01 Giovani Bernard RB 4 20 17 -3Getzlaf15 3.16 T.Y. Hilton WR 10 62 48 -14Getzlaf15 4.01 Jordan Cameron TE 4 53 49 -4Getzlaf15 5.16 Rueben Randle WR 8 122 80 -42Getzlaf15 6.01 Bishop Sankey RB 9 49 81 32
Regarding Larry Allen's assertion that White and Sanders were among the biggest reaches (relative to ADP) in the draft:

Using this chart above...

16 WR were worse pics (relative to ADP) - including one of Larry's WRs.

18 WR were better pics (relative to ADP

 
(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:
:lol: I don't think SOD means what you think it means, hillbilly ;)

 
(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:
:lol: I don't think SOD means what you think it means, hillbilly ;)
STEAL OF DA DRAFT

You guys are gonna be chokin on that adp loveeeee ;)

 
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(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:
:lol: I don't think SOD means what you think it means, hillbilly ;)
The 'O' is for Onterrio, right?

 
(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:
You know what other WR was once "the star of training camp?"

David Clowney.

 
7.13 Danny amendola wr patriots

The good

1. He is healthy now

2. other receiver has a screw in his foot

3. He has performed at a high level before

The bad

1. He will not stay healthy

2. Other receiver is back at practice

3. He did not perform last year

Basically an all or nothing pick.

 
(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:
You know what other WR was once "the star of training camp?"

David Clowney.
I kinda like playing with you FFA boys, its almost stealing.....

 
7.13 Danny amendola wr patriots

The good

1. He is healthy now

2. other receiver has a screw in his foot

3. He has performed at a high level before

The bad

1. He will not stay healthy

2. Other receiver is back at practice

3. He did not perform last year

Basically an all or nothing pick.
he just broke his leg after you drafted him

 
Just realized that I'm all in on the Jaguars and Bucs' offenses! My starting lineup will feature, and depend on, 2 players from each of these stellar powerhouses of scoring. :loco:

 
(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:
You know what other WR was once "the star of training camp?"

David Clowney.
I kinda like playing with you FFA boys, its almost stealing.....
you better hope he is an SOD when Patterson is your WR1 in a WR heavy scoring league

 
Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
What ADP universe has Lee at 104? One that averages in rookie drafts or dynasty startups, I guarantee you.

Mock draft calculator for redraft leagues with PPR:

Lee = 167

Jennings = 146

Benjamin = 112
I used MFL. You're welcome to give us the formula if it's not proprietary.
 
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(Rotoworld)ESPN Panthers reporter named first-round WR Kelvin Benjamin the star of training camp.

Analysis: It's no longer a question who is replacing Steve Smith as the No. 1 receiver in Charlotte. Benjamin has had a hiccup or two with dropped passes, but he's mostly caught everything that's come his direction. In the preseason opener against the Bills, he reeled in an acrobatic 29-yard touchdown while falling to the ground. The Panthers have a plethora of red-zone targets, including the 6-foot-5 Benjamin, Greg Olsen, and veteran Jerricho Cotchery. We've seen Benjamin's ADP soar from the middle of the 11th round to the end of the 9th the past 14 days.

SOD, Blouses...... :excited:
You know what other WR was once "the star of training camp?"

David Clowney.
I kinda like playing with you FFA boys, its almost stealing.....
you better hope he is an SOD when Patterson is your WR1 in a WR heavy scoring league
I think norv knows to get the ball in his hands :)

 
Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
What ADP universe has Lee at 104? One that averages in rookie drafts or dynasty startups, I guarantee you.

Mock draft calculator for redraft leagues with PPR:

Lee = 167

Jennings = 146

Benjamin = 112
I used MFL. You're welcome to give us the formula if it's not proprietary.
MFL's ADP is often polluted by startup dynasty and rookie drafts. Rookies are always higher than normal.

 
Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
What ADP universe has Lee at 104? One that averages in rookie drafts or dynasty startups, I guarantee you.

Mock draft calculator for redraft leagues with PPR:

Lee = 167

Jennings = 146

Benjamin = 112
I used MFL. You're welcome to give us the formula if it's not proprietary.
MFL's ADP is often polluted by startup dynasty and rookie drafts. Rookies are always higher than normal.
I saw Benjamin go at 5.10 in a recent redraft 12 teams...wasn't me who picked him either

 
Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
Larry, you're going to have to come stronger than this. Roddy is projected to score 17th among wrs, and was 17th wr taken in our draft. Sanders projected 32nd and was taken as 34th wr in our draft. Try and keep up.Eta: That Hunter pick was gross too.

 
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Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
What ADP universe has Lee at 104? One that averages in rookie drafts or dynasty startups, I guarantee you.

Mock draft calculator for redraft leagues with PPR:

Lee = 167

Jennings = 146

Benjamin = 112
I used MFL. You're welcome to give us the formula if it's not proprietary.
MFL's ADP is often polluted by startup dynasty and rookie drafts. Rookies are always higher than normal.
Do you have some process for me to write a SPAR to correct that anomaly?
 
Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
What ADP universe has Lee at 104? One that averages in rookie drafts or dynasty startups, I guarantee you.

Mock draft calculator for redraft leagues with PPR:

Lee = 167

Jennings = 146

Benjamin = 112
I used MFL. You're welcome to give us the formula if it's not proprietary.
MFL's ADP is often polluted by startup dynasty and rookie drafts. Rookies are always higher than normal.
Do you have some process for me to write a SPAR to correct that anomaly?
what's a SPAR?

 
Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
Larry, you're going to have to come stronger than this. Roddy is projected to score 17th among wrs, and was 17th wr taken in our draft. Sanders projected 32nd and was taken as 34th wr in our draft. Try and keep up.Eta: That Hunter pick was gross too.
Not in the projections I use.
 
Peens, I'll wager you $100 that Benjamin is out-performed by at least 5 wrs on the board when you selected him
That's a dumb bet. I guarantee 5 wrs will outscore Fitz or Andre after they were picked. Duh!!You guys are too caught with adp you friggin nerds!! sometimes you have to get "your guy" a bit early if you don't think he will make it back to you. So I'm fine with getting my guy a bit early.

Don't bother giving me that crap about Benjamin would have made it back to me at 6.13 tho. I know that's a crock of crap!
OKay, I'll raise it to 7 on the board outscore him. If you don't take that, its like admitting you suck

 
Tim might have taken the lead for worst pick of the draft so far. Can someone with ADP knowledge confirm this?
Nope. Lee's ADP is 104.6. Timmah took him at 106. +1.4 value.ETA - Greg Jennings was a -37 value based on ADP where he was picked.

Benjamin was a -16.

My Terrance Williams pick was a -20.

Both Roddy and Emanuel Sanders were -20s.

I think, aside from Benjamin, the Jennings, Williams, White and Sanders picks are the worst value vs. ADP. Though, most WRs are in the 0 to -10 range vs. ADP based on our league rules I assume.
What ADP universe has Lee at 104? One that averages in rookie drafts or dynasty startups, I guarantee you.

Mock draft calculator for redraft leagues with PPR:

Lee = 167

Jennings = 146

Benjamin = 112
I used MFL. You're welcome to give us the formula if it's not proprietary.
MFL's ADP is often polluted by startup dynasty and rookie drafts. Rookies are always higher than normal.
Do you have some process for me to write a SPAR to correct that anomaly?
what's a SPAR?
Software Product Anomaly Report.
 
Peens, I'll wager you $100 that Benjamin is out-performed by at least 5 wrs on the board when you selected him
That's a dumb bet. I guarantee 5 wrs will outscore Fitz or Andre after they were picked. Duh!!You guys are too caught with adp you friggin nerds!! sometimes you have to get "your guy" a bit early if you don't think he will make it back to you. So I'm fine with getting my guy a bit early.

Don't bother giving me that crap about Benjamin would have made it back to me at 6.13 tho. I know that's a crock of crap!
OKay, I'll raise it to 7 on the board outscore him. If you don't take that, its like admitting you suck
That's a suckers bet...

 

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