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John Clayton's offseason predictions (1 Viewer)

jeter23

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Clayton was just on Sportscenter and made his predictions about some key offseason moves. Here they are-

Edge- He said he would be leaving Indy and could end up in Miami if Ricky gets traded. This one makes no sense to me. Isn't one of the reasons behind trading Ricky to open up the full time job for Brown? Williams was in a position last year that he had to keep his mouth shut and was happy to share carries. I don't see Edge sharing with anyone.

Alexander- He said he would be staying in Seattle after drawing some interest from Childress and the Vikings.

TO- He predicts he would sign with Denver, as did Michael Irvin.

Lendale White- mentioned he thought the Cardinals would draft White in the 1st round.

 
I like all but the Edge prediction. It makes no sense as pointed out by the poster himself.

This breaks down to a) the teams most likely want him, have cap room, etc.. and b) where he himself wants to be

It is no surprise that he wants to be in Miami. I suppose if he signed a the right deal Miami would look at him. Why would Miami trade a guy like Ricky with a very low deal to acquire a guy with similar skills for a lot more money?

More likely destinations would be NE (Dillon on last legs in 2005), AZ (assuming no RB drafted), CLE (under the cap but Droughns was one of the few bright spots), PIT (let me be among the first to say FWP is not the answer).

Of the above, I think PIT doesn't have the cap, NE doesn't like to spend that much on aging stars which leaves CLE and AZ. CLE has Droughns which leads me to say AZ is the probable destination.

 
Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for. Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners? Isn't his whole deal getting the shifty speedy guys that can break it to the outside? (cough DeAngelo Williams cough)

Edge may well end up in Miami.... Ronnie Brown sucks if you didn't know.

 
Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for. Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners? Isn't his whole deal getting the shifty speedy guys that can break it to the outside? (cough DeAngelo Williams cough)

Edge may well end up in Miami.... Ronnie Brown sucks if you didn't know.
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Edge- He said he would be leaving Indy and could end up in Miami if Ricky gets traded...I don't see Edge sharing with anyone.
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Why wouldn't Edge share carries? A significant majority of posters here think Edge has too much mileage already. Wouldn't signing with a team which allows him to share the load with someone make sense for Edge's career?
 
Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for. Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners? Isn't his whole deal getting the shifty speedy guys that can break it to the outside? (cough DeAngelo Williams cough)

Edge may well end up in Miami.... Ronnie Brown sucks if you didn't know.
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Whether Brown sucks or not is debatable. But what isn't debatable is that Ricky is everything that Edge is, and doesn't have the high price tag. No nirvana for Edge in Miami.
 
Edge- He said he would be leaving Indy and could end up in Miami if Ricky gets traded...I don't see Edge sharing with anyone.
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Why wouldn't Edge share carries? A significant majority of posters here think Edge has too much mileage already. Wouldn't signing with a team which allows him to share the load with someone make sense for Edge's career?
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Why would a team with a subpar salary cap situation, an aging defense and a bad QB situation spend monster $ on a RB and than only use him in a RBBC? That really doesn't make sense.As for Edge to the Pats I don't see that happening. The Pats will make some big moves this offseason but they have Dillon on the books for big money so they won't spend the amount it would take to get Edge. They'll definetly add to the RB position but adding Edge would be investing way too much in the RB position. Also, if the Pats give out a huge deal it will probably be to extend Seymour which is far more important than adding a RB like Edge.

 
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Once the smoke clears,I would be willing to bet that Edge will be a Jaguar...................

 
Once the smoke clears,I would be willing to bet that Edge will be a Jaguar...................
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I'll drink to that. He wants to go to sunny FL, and the Dolphins are taken by Jesus Christ... err i mean Ronnie Brown ;) .
 
Edge- He said he would be leaving Indy and could end up in Miami if Ricky gets traded...I don't see Edge sharing with anyone.
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Why wouldn't Edge share carries? A significant majority of posters here think Edge has too much mileage already. Wouldn't signing with a team which allows him to share the load with someone make sense for Edge's career?
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Since people on a message board think he needs less carries, that means Edge thinks the same thing?
 
Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for.  Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners? 
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Leroy Hoard and Moe Williams were guys Green acquired via FA and the draft. He liked using the shifty guy with the N-S guy. He also had Terry Allen at one time--who had both skills in his youth...
 
Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for.  Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners?  Isn't his whole deal getting the shifty speedy guys that can break it to the outside? (cough DeAngelo Williams cough)

Edge may well end up in Miami.... Ronnie Brown sucks if you didn't know.
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Whether Brown sucks or not is debatable. But what isn't debatable is that Ricky is everything that Edge is, and doesn't have the high price tag. No nirvana for Edge in Miami.
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Someone needs a definition of debatable.
 
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Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for.  Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners?  Isn't his whole deal getting the shifty speedy guys that can break it to the outside? (cough DeAngelo Williams cough)

Edge may well end up in Miami.... Ronnie Brown sucks if you didn't know.
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Whether Brown sucks or not is debatable. But what isn't debatable is that Ricky is everything that Edge is, and doesn't have the high price tag. No nirvana for Edge in Miami.
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Someone needs a definition of debatable.
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As does someone else for anal-retentive.
 
Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for.  Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners?  Isn't his whole deal getting the shifty speedy guys that can break it to the outside? (cough DeAngelo Williams cough)

Edge may well end up in Miami.... Ronnie Brown sucks if you didn't know.
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Whether Brown sucks or not is debatable. But what isn't debatable is that Ricky is everything that Edge is, and doesn't have the high price tag. No nirvana for Edge in Miami.
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Someone needs a definition of debatable.
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As does someone else for anal-retentive.
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Just for the record. Over 5 years, 1999 to 2003, here are the totals for Ricky and Edge:Total yards from scrimmage:

Edgerrin James: 8,191

Ricky Williams: 8,160

Rushing yards:

Edgerrin James: 6,172

Ricky Williams: 6,354

YPC:

Edgerrin James: 4.1

Ricky Williams: 4.0

TD's:

James: 52

Williams: 45

In James' favor, he had an abbreviated season in 2001.

In Ricky's favor, he didn't play behind the Indy o-line, and didn't play behind a team which was an offensive machine.

In my opinion, it's about dead even between them.

 
Once the smoke clears,I would be willing to bet that Edge will be a Jaguar...................
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This makes the most sense. Edge wants to be in Florida, and Jax is the only team with a real "opening" at that position.Edge is too much of a partier down here in Miami to get the job done here without distraction. Also, Drew represents him, so he won't come cheap.

 
Once the smoke clears,I would be willing to bet that Edge will be a Jaguar...................
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I could see this, as well as him possibly going to Minnesota or Carolina for that matter.I'm a bit surprised at Clayton mentioning Miami - he should know as much as anyone that they have a ton of money already tied up in Ronnie Brown, and Saban has big plans for him.

 
Anybody that watches the Cardinals will tell you LenDale White is far from the back they are looking for.  Since when does Denny Green like North/South runners?  Isn't his whole deal getting the shifty speedy guys that can break it to the outside? (cough DeAngelo Williams cough)

Edge may well end up in Miami.... Ronnie Brown sucks if you didn't know.
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Whether Brown sucks or not is debatable. But what isn't debatable is that Ricky is everything that Edge is, and doesn't have the high price tag. No nirvana for Edge in Miami.
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Someone needs a definition of debatable.
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As does someone else for anal-retentive.
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Just for the record. Over 5 years, 1999 to 2003, here are the totals for Ricky and Edge:Total yards from scrimmage:

Edgerrin James: 8,191

Ricky Williams: 8,160

Rushing yards:

Edgerrin James: 6,172

Ricky Williams: 6,354

YPC:

Edgerrin James: 4.1

Ricky Williams: 4.0

TD's:

James: 52

Williams: 45

In James' favor, he had an abbreviated season in 2001.

In Ricky's favor, he didn't play behind the Indy o-line, and didn't play behind a team which was an offensive machine.

In my opinion, it's about dead even between them.
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I've argued this in favor of Williams before (at least in terms of finances) that Edge was not worth $8 million to Williams' $540,000 contract.Williams has averaged 109.7 total yards, 0.62 TD, and 14.7 fantasy ppg over his career.

Edge has averaged 125.7 total yards, 0.78 TD, and 17.3 fantasy ppg over his career.

Edge has had better numbers, but certainly he's not worth 15 times the money.

 
Once the smoke clears,I would be willing to bet that Edge will be a Jaguar...................
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I could see this, as well as him possibly going to Minnesota or Carolina for that matter.I'm a bit surprised at Clayton mentioning Miami - he should know as much as anyone that they have a ton of money already tied up in Ronnie Brown, and Saban has big plans for him.
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Clayton has lost his mojo IMO. His opinions on who is going where on the head coaching vacancies were just about all wrong.
 
I'm a bit surprised at Clayton mentioning Miami - he should know as much as anyone that they have a ton of money already tied up in Ronnie Brown, and Saban has big plans for him.
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I heard Clayton say that and thought he was out of his mind.I've got Zero inside info compared to Clayton but, common sense would tell me it's just ridiculous and would NEVER EVER happen.

 
In my opinion, it's about dead even between them.
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Which one is it then that is a one year suspension or retirement waiting to happen?
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Anyone who saw Mr. James on the NFL Network (with Portis & McGahee) can see first hand can see that James & Ricky may also have a lot in common aside from similar 1999-2003 stats. Ricky at least has purportedly closed that chapter of his life.
 
Once the smoke clears,I would be willing to bet that Edge will be a Jaguar...................
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:goodposting: My thoughts exactly. Miami is not the place for Edge. Ronnie Brown is a great back and he will be even better next season. I think they should hold on to Ricky, I like what they had going last year and with those two backs playing, it takes the pressure off of the young QB they will pick up.
 
I like all but the Edge prediction. It makes no sense as pointed out by the poster himself.

This breaks down to a) the teams most likely want him, have cap room, etc.. and b) where he himself wants to be

It is no surprise that he wants to be in Miami. I suppose if he signed a the right deal Miami would look at him. Why would Miami trade a guy like Ricky with a very low deal to acquire a guy with similar skills for a lot more money?

More likely destinations would be NE (Dillon on last legs in 2005), AZ (assuming no RB drafted), CLE (under the cap but Droughns was one of the few bright spots), PIT (let me be among the first to say FWP is not the answer).

Of the above, I think PIT doesn't have the cap, NE doesn't like to spend that much on aging stars which leaves CLE and AZ. CLE has Droughns which leads me to say AZ is the probable destination.
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Give that man a Ceee-Gar!! Bullseye
 
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