Jonathan Stewart Injury (1 Viewer)

[VikingFrog]

Joe Person (@josephperson)

8/17/11 10:40 AM

Jonathan Stewart went to tent w/ trainer. Now stretching his left leg w/ shoe off.

Joe Person (@josephperson)

8/17/11 12:04 PM

RB Jonathan Stewart aggravated his Achilles and was held out as a precaution.

Apologies if this is posted somewhere. I searched Johnathan Stewart and the last post on him was July 31st, but not sure how well the search function works on this forum.

I'm drafting tonight, so this could bump Deangelo up in my opinion. Stewart always seems to be nursing something. I know this is precautionary, but it's never good to aggravate the achilles.

Thoughts on Deangelo's upside because of this and any updates are appreciated.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

seems this has been a lingering issue for years now.

 

[Ack88]

Depends on the severity of the injury. Sounds minor to me but and earlier point is well taken: Stewart seemingly always has one issue or another. Now Dwill has issues of his own, but the upside is there, as he has demonstrated he can be elite.

IMO I think the real potential winner in this case is Goodson. Snag him in round 12 or deeper and I think, given the injury history of both Stew and Dwill, the Goodson drafter will be rewarded.

 

[ATC1]

If the trainer was stretching the achillies under the tent, the first thing that comes to mind is cramps not an injury.

 

[FavreCo]

Hmmm, I may have to hold onto Goodson as my DeAngelo handcuff now.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Hmmm, I may have to hold onto Goodson as my DeAngelo handcuff now.

Who, oddly enough, was held out of practice due to a sore achilles.Link.

 

[butcher boy]

Deangelo goes bump, bump, bump in the night.

 

[joffer]

guy must have the most sensitive achilles tendon of all time.

 

[dynastyguy1000]

btw ... searching with google.com with the syntax ..... "keyword" site:footballguys.com .... works beautifully

 

[firstseason1988]

guy must have the most sensitive achilles tendon of all time.

I have achilles probs, they suck.

 

[Sweet Love]

If Jonathan Stewart could figure out a way to run without using his feet, he could possibly be the next Barry Sanders....now do people understand why Carolina re-signed Williams? Whether this turns out to be something or not, the guy is a walking MASH unit.

 

[pantherclub]

Dwill is a steal at his current adp

 

[Captain Fantastic]

Making me long for the good ol' days of Panthers iron-man RBs like Desean Foster...

 

[todisco1]

Making me long for the good ol' days of Panthers iron-man RBs like Desean Foster...

...or Tim Biakabutuka.

 

[az_prof]

If Jonathan Stewart could figure out a way to run without using his feet, he could possibly be the next Barry Sanders....now do people understand why Carolina re-signed Williams? Whether this turns out to be something or not, the guy is a walking MASH unit.

I agree with your hypothesis--that signing DWill was a good idea given durability concerns for Stewart. But...comparing HIM to a "walking MASH unit" when he has played in 46 of 48 games in three years is a bit hyperbolic. In fact, the same could be said of Williams. Setting aside the hyperbole and slanted opinions:This is not good news for Stewart because the off season surgery was supposed to have cured his injury problems and allowed him to have his first healthy season. It should bump up Williams. It would have bumped up Goodson except he too is suffering from an Achilles injury. And I wouldn't bump anyone too much until we know more. Stewart has played well while being hurt and we don't know if this is a minor tweak or something serious yet.

 

[Mr Rodgers neighborhood]

Did everyone overlook the post about this potentially being something as minor as cramps? Fantasy players will jump ship on anyone just because something comes out in a report that isn't glowing. Calm down guys, wait for something real to come out before bumping up the injury prone DeAngelo Williams. As mentioned earlier, Stewart may have a history of nagging injuries, but rarely does he miss games.

Williams on the other hand, has missed games. Not at all bagging on Williams, but it's insanity to jump the gun this hard this quick.

 

[Bayhawks]

Did everyone overlook the post about this potentially being something as minor as cramps? Fantasy players will jump ship on anyone just because something comes out in a report that isn't glowing. Calm down guys, wait for something real to come out before bumping up the injury prone DeAngelo Williams. As mentioned earlier, Stewart may have a history of nagging injuries, but rarely does he miss games.Williams on the other hand, has missed games. Not at all bagging on Williams, but it's insanity to jump the gun this hard this quick.

OK, I don't know who Joe Person (from the original post) is, but he reported that Stewart aggravated his achilles (which he had surgery on in the offseason). Then someone in this thread offers the OPINION that maybe it was just cramps, and you're suggesting that fantasy players "will jump ship" over minor reports?It seems like the "best" information suggests Stewart aggravated his achilles, not that it was just cramps (especially when you consider that they don't keep you out of practice for cramps; they hydrate you, stretch you out, and then you get back in there).That being said, you mentioned that Stewart "doesn't miss games." While this is technically true, he has NEVER been the standard of durability, either. He has played 3 NFL seasons (48 games), and has been listed on the injury report for over 1/2 of those games. Furthermore, he has received 10 or fewer carries in 42% of the games he has managed to play in. If I had him on my FF team, I'd rather have him listed as out, so I can get another RB in who will get more than 10 carries.

 

[ATC1]

Did everyone overlook the post about this potentially being something as minor as cramps? Fantasy players will jump ship on anyone just because something comes out in a report that isn't glowing. Calm down guys, wait for something real to come out before bumping up the injury prone DeAngelo Williams. As mentioned earlier, Stewart may have a history of nagging injuries, but rarely does he miss games.Williams on the other hand, has missed games. Not at all bagging on Williams, but it's insanity to jump the gun this hard this quick.

OK, I don't know who Joe Person (from the original post) is, but he reported that Stewart aggravated his achilles (which he had surgery on in the offseason). Then someone in this thread offers the OPINION that maybe it was just cramps, and you're suggesting that fantasy players "will jump ship" over minor reports?It seems like the "best" information suggests Stewart aggravated his achilles, not that it was just cramps (especially when you consider that they don't keep you out of practice for cramps; they hydrate you, stretch you out, and then you get back in there).That being said, you mentioned that Stewart "doesn't miss games." While this is technically true, he has NEVER been the standard of durability, either. He has played 3 NFL seasons (48 games), and has been listed on the injury report for over 1/2 of those games. Furthermore, he has received 10 or fewer carries in 42% of the games he has managed to play in. If I had him on my FF team, I'd rather have him listed as out, so I can get another RB in who will get more than 10 carries.

Reports now seem to indicatethat is it soreness from the repaired achilles. I don't like media outlet's reporting what they see at practices as a major issue. When I think of a player getting stretched on the side lines, I think of tightness or cramps. In camp, they can be pretty bad if not controled. If it was a serious issue we would hear he was carted off the field and brought to the training room, he couldn't put weight on it, etc.

 

[Mr Rodgers neighborhood]

Did everyone overlook the post about this potentially being something as minor as cramps? Fantasy players will jump ship on anyone just because something comes out in a report that isn't glowing. Calm down guys, wait for something real to come out before bumping up the injury prone DeAngelo Williams. As mentioned earlier, Stewart may have a history of nagging injuries, but rarely does he miss games.Williams on the other hand, has missed games. Not at all bagging on Williams, but it's insanity to jump the gun this hard this quick.

OK, I don't know who Joe Person (from the original post) is, but he reported that Stewart aggravated his achilles (which he had surgery on in the offseason). Then someone in this thread offers the OPINION that maybe it was just cramps, and you're suggesting that fantasy players "will jump ship" over minor reports?It seems like the "best" information suggests Stewart aggravated his achilles, not that it was just cramps (especially when you consider that they don't keep you out of practice for cramps; they hydrate you, stretch you out, and then you get back in there).That being said, you mentioned that Stewart "doesn't miss games." While this is technically true, he has NEVER been the standard of durability, either. He has played 3 NFL seasons (48 games), and has been listed on the injury report for over 1/2 of those games. Furthermore, he has received 10 or fewer carries in 42% of the games he has managed to play in. If I had him on my FF team, I'd rather have him listed as out, so I can get another RB in who will get more than 10 carries.

And it was nothing more than an opinion that it was anything remotely serious. I'm suggesting that fantasy players jump ship without getting the facts. A lot of people will take a media members tweet as gospel instead of letting the truth come out.And from what I've read it was nothing more than soreness. Fact of the matter is, if it's serious, it's highly unlikely that they'll just stretch you out with a trainer. If they had any inkling that it was serious I think they'd get him to the team doctor and get everything checked out. The "best" information is whatever media outlet you want to believe. Unless it's clear that there was a major injury, I tend to let the truth come out. That was my point. Nothing more, nothing less.I also never said Stewart wasn't injury prone, and you are proving my point. Yes, he's been on the injury report a lot. But he's missed two games. That tells me nagging things don't stop him. How many games has DeAngelo missed? Out of curiousity, are you a DeAngelo Williams owner? One more thing... What difference does it make how many times a guy has been on the injury report? I think Tom Brady has been on said injury report for nearly a decade with a "shoulder".

 

[SSOG]

Reports now seem to indicatethat is it soreness from the repaired achilles. I don't like media outlet's reporting what they see at practices as a major issue. When I think of a player getting stretched on the side lines, I think of tightness or cramps. In camp, they can be pretty bad if not controled. If it was a serious issue we would hear he was carted off the field and brought to the training room, he couldn't put weight on it, etc.

This. I was extremely worried when I read the OP... until I got to the word "sidelines". Carolina has a lot of money invested in Stewart. If there was even a chance that his injury was serious, there is a 0% chance he would still be standing on the sidelines. It's the preseason- guys get carted into the locker room for a dislocated finger.

 

[Mark Wimer]

seems this has been a lingering issue for years now.

Yes, Stewart has struggled with ankle bone spurs/Achilles' tendon issues since he joined the NFL. This year was reportedly his first training camp free of ankle issues (he practiced with the team on day one of training camp for the first time in his career earlier this summer) - the fact that his ankle/Achilles' tendon is tender and flaring up again is a big reason for concern, IMO. In years past, he's been able to skip a lot of practices but play on the weekends, but now the team is installing a new offense under Rob Chudzinski. Reps are at a premium due to the lockout wrecking offseason workouts (especially for teams transitioning to new systems, like the Panthers are). This is bad news for Stewart owners, IMO. Those who want to minimize "soreness" because Stewart wasn't carted off are missing the point that he's struggled with these issues for years, and now the old injury is rearing its ugly head again. The condition may be a chronic, and worsening, issue if the guy can't go two weeks of practice without having new symptoms cropping up in the old place.