Joseph Addai Injury Update (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

This was from Silva on Twitter:

FWIW: Emailer who passed along Dallas Clark's torn wrist ligaments also claimed Austin Collie out 2-6 weeks, Addai out for "awhile"

If true and if Donald Brown is healthy coming out of the bye he would get a huge boost in value. Mike Hart also becomes viable since Brown has yet to show he can stay healthy.

 

[packersfan]

Phillip Wilson interviewed Addai today and Addai mentions a timetable of possibly being out for as long as 4-5 weeks.

“Nothing torn or anything,” (Addai) said. “It’s just the nerve. That’s the biggest thing, that and getting the strength back. It could come back any time between now and four or five weeks.”

Link

 

[DoubleG]

Holy wow - does Indy have enough players to even field a team.

 

[emge]

which RB start in his place? Hart or Brown?

 

[finito]

which RB start in his place? Hart or Brown?

Brown if healthy.

 

[netnalp]

which RB start in his place? Hart or Brown?

Brown if healthy.

D. Brown if healthy then Hart. Andre Brown will need to learn the playbook before he might compete with Hart, by the time that happens either D. Brown or Addai will be healthy.

 

[packersfan]

Addai tossing 4-5 weeks out as a possible timetable is what I find most interesting about this. That seems like a rather specific time frame. Makes me wonder if he's repeating what the medical staff told him.

 

[Da Guru]

Addai tossing 4-5 weeks out as a possible timetable is what I find most interesting about this. That seems like a rather specific time frame. Makes me wonder if he's repeating what the medical staff told him.

Addai did say he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night if that helps.

 

[az_prof]

Addai tossing 4-5 weeks out as a possible timetable is what I find most interesting about this. That seems like a rather specific time frame. Makes me wonder if he's repeating what the medical staff told him.

Realistically, isn't it half of that? He has this week on the bye and then another week before their next game. That's two weeks from the injury to the next game. I agree that it is time to dust off Donald Brown, and that Hart will have value if he can't go. But I think Brown should be ready to go. He has already been out three weeks with a hammy, and now another for the bye. That seems like plenty of time to rehab a hammy.

 

[rascal]

I think this might be taken out of context:

“Nothing torn or anything,” he said. “It’s just the nerve. That’s the biggest thing, that and getting the strength back. It could come back any time between now and four or five weeks.”

 

[packersfan]

More info that confirms Addai's looking at a potential lengthy absence:

JasonLaCanfora

Joseph Addai will go for a 2nd opinion on his shoulder injury that could keep him out several weeks. Addai resting during the bye

 

[towney]

Donald Brown should be healthy after the bye is what I'm seeing and he's on most WW.

Addai owners should be grabbing him if available.

 

[coachjim]

With Addai, Clark and Collie out for a while I think that really boosts Garcon in the scheme of things.

 

[towney]

With Addai, Clark and Collie out for a while I think that really boosts Garcon in the scheme of things.

Got to wait an see on Collie injury if true. Collie injury came out of no where, was he even hurt last week?What's the speculation on his injury? With Addai I'm inclined to believe his shoulder injury is more then what's reported especially if it's nerve related (no I'm not a doctor).

 

[netnalp]

Addai tossing 4-5 weeks out as a possible timetable is what I find most interesting about this. That seems like a rather specific time frame. Makes me wonder if he's repeating what the medical staff told him.

Realistically, isn't it half of that? He has this week on the bye and then another week before their next game. That's two weeks from the injury to the next game. I agree that it is time to dust off Donald Brown, and that Hart will have value if he can't go. But I think Brown should be ready to go. He has already been out three weeks with a hammy, and now another for the bye. That seems like plenty of time to rehab a hammy.

Being on bye doesn't enhance his healing abilities.

 

[bill bates hits hard]

anyone see how addai fell? he looked in deep pain. left under assistance with a towel over his face. knew he going to miss time.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

With Addai, Clark and Collie out for a while I think that really boosts Garcon in the scheme of things.

Got to wait an see on Collie injury if true. Collie injury came out of no where, was he even hurt last week?What's the speculation on his injury? With Addai I'm inclined to believe his shoulder injury is more then what's reported especially if it's nerve related (no I'm not a doctor).

check the Collie thread they are saying foot. The same guy nailed the D.Clark thing.Addai to me was obvious he was gonna miss time after that hit

 

[purestrength]

All these recent injuries to Colts players (who have helped keep me at or near the top of several $$$ FF leagues) make me want to puke. Seriously.

 

[The_Underachiever]

He's throwing out an possible 4-5 week time frame? Everyone knows a player always assumes the best so this to me is a definite red flag. You throw in the "second opinion" and that a double whammy. If Brown is available, I would grab him now. Out of any RBs probably sitting on waivers right now, I have to think Brown has a heck of a lot of chance right now.

 

[Jene Bramel]

The 4-5 week timeframe shouldn't be considered a sure thing yet, but the admission is worrisome. It seemed clear that the injury was a pretty significant stinger after it occurred and the news that he left the stadium in a sling was a red flag that he wasn't likely to recover quickly. If the strength doesn't return quickly -- and his comments that he's still struggling to lift his arm suggests he's still significantly weak -- there's really no timetable for recovery. It could be within a week or two or a month or two. The news that he's seeing a specialist makes you wonder if there's more than just weakness on exam, i.e. evidence of longer term nerve contusion on an MRI or something else that would suggest a longer timetable. There isn't a surgical procedure or injection that speeds up the healing process of a slow-to-heal stinger, so the specialist news gives pause as well.

 

[theplayer11]

The 4-5 week timeframe shouldn't be considered a sure thing yet, but the admission is worrisome. It seemed clear that the injury was a pretty significant stinger after it occurred and the news that he left the stadium in a sling was a red flag that he wasn't likely to recover quickly. If the strength doesn't return quickly -- and his comments that he's still struggling to lift his arm suggests he's still significantly weak -- there's really no timetable for recovery. It could be within a week or two or a month or two. The news that he's seeing a specialist makes you wonder if there's more than just weakness on exam, i.e. evidence of longer term nerve contusion on an MRI or something else that would suggest a longer timetable. There isn't a surgical procedure or injection that speeds up the healing process of a slow-to-heal stinger, so the specialist news gives pause as well.

he never said 4-5 weeks...he said: "It could come back any time between now and four or five weeks.”....big difference

 

[packersfan]

The 4-5 week timeframe shouldn't be considered a sure thing yet, but the admission is worrisome. It seemed clear that the injury was a pretty significant stinger after it occurred and the news that he left the stadium in a sling was a red flag that he wasn't likely to recover quickly. If the strength doesn't return quickly -- and his comments that he's still struggling to lift his arm suggests he's still significantly weak -- there's really no timetable for recovery. It could be within a week or two or a month or two. The news that he's seeing a specialist makes you wonder if there's more than just weakness on exam, i.e. evidence of longer term nerve contusion on an MRI or something else that would suggest a longer timetable. There isn't a surgical procedure or injection that speeds up the healing process of a slow-to-heal stinger, so the specialist news gives pause as well.

he never said 4-5 weeks...he said: "It could come back any time between now and four or five weeks.”....big difference

He brought up a 4-5 week timetable without being asked. That's one red flag in my opinion because I doubt he came up with that on his own. I'm willing to wager that's a timetable he was given by the medical staff. We then have the RotoWorld source saying he's going to be out "awhile." We then have NFL Network saying he could be out "several weeks." We can conjecture on how long "awhile" or "several weeks" may be but when Addai himself is providing a possible time frame that seems to be a safe estimate in my opinion.Regardless, it doesn't look good for him for the short term. Donald Brown's stock is soaring. Of course, he needs to get healthy and stay healthy but if he can do that he may finally provide an opportunity for the Colts to see if they made the right move taking him in the first round last year.

 

[theplayer11]

again..4-5 weeks was not his time table..it was now to 4-5 weeks. We shall see.

 

[Jene Bramel]

The 4-5 week timeframe shouldn't be considered a sure thing yet, but the admission is worrisome. It seemed clear that the injury was a pretty significant stinger after it occurred and the news that he left the stadium in a sling was a red flag that he wasn't likely to recover quickly. If the strength doesn't return quickly -- and his comments that he's still struggling to lift his arm suggests he's still significantly weak -- there's really no timetable for recovery. It could be within a week or two or a month or two. The news that he's seeing a specialist makes you wonder if there's more than just weakness on exam, i.e. evidence of longer term nerve contusion on an MRI or something else that would suggest a longer timetable. There isn't a surgical procedure or injection that speeds up the healing process of a slow-to-heal stinger, so the specialist news gives pause as well.

he never said 4-5 weeks...he said: "It could come back any time between now and four or five weeks.”....big difference

Agreed. The first sentence wasn't written as clearly as it should have been. The point I'm trying to make is that I think, while there is no definite timetable, there are enough red flags here -- including the 4-5 week comment itself -- to worry that a longer estimate than day-to-day is reasonable.

 

[packersfan]

I still think Addai saying 4-5 weeks is a pretty telling statement. That's a specific time table that he offered. That leads me to believe it's a time frame he was given. Yes he could be ok when he wakes up tomorrow but it also could be an injury that doesn't heal for more than a month. That matches up with the info RotoWorld received and NFL Network reported. We'll see what the second opinion brings but there are more than enough signs at the moment to conclude Addai is going to miss some time and perhaps a large chunk of time.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

so one shoulder was already a problem and now the other is FUBAR. goodluck the rest of the year Addai owners

 

[az_prof]

Addai tossing 4-5 weeks out as a possible timetable is what I find most interesting about this. That seems like a rather specific time frame. Makes me wonder if he's repeating what the medical staff told him.

Realistically, isn't it half of that? He has this week on the bye and then another week before their next game. That's two weeks from the injury to the next game. I agree that it is time to dust off Donald Brown, and that Hart will have value if he can't go. But I think Brown should be ready to go. He has already been out three weeks with a hammy, and now another for the bye. That seems like plenty of time to rehab a hammy.

Being on bye doesn't enhance his healing abilities.

Of course not. Being on bye means that a four week absence is really two weeks. It means he is missing fewer games. I still think Addai owners would be wise to grab D. Brown is available, or Mike Hart. I wouldn't worry about A. Brown yet. He clearly was brought in to add depth because of concern about Addai.

 

[az_prof]

The 4-5 week timeframe shouldn't be considered a sure thing yet, but the admission is worrisome. It seemed clear that the injury was a pretty significant stinger after it occurred and the news that he left the stadium in a sling was a red flag that he wasn't likely to recover quickly. If the strength doesn't return quickly -- and his comments that he's still struggling to lift his arm suggests he's still significantly weak -- there's really no timetable for recovery. It could be within a week or two or a month or two. The news that he's seeing a specialist makes you wonder if there's more than just weakness on exam, i.e. evidence of longer term nerve contusion on an MRI or something else that would suggest a longer timetable. There isn't a surgical procedure or injection that speeds up the healing process of a slow-to-heal stinger, so the specialist news gives pause as well.

he never said 4-5 weeks...he said: "It could come back any time between now and four or five weeks.”....big difference

He brought up a 4-5 week timetable without being asked. That's one red flag in my opinion because I doubt he came up with that on his own. I'm willing to wager that's a timetable he was given by the medical staff. We then have the RotoWorld source saying he's going to be out "awhile." We then have NFL Network saying he could be out "several weeks." We can conjecture on how long "awhile" or "several weeks" may be but when Addai himself is providing a possible time frame that seems to be a safe estimate in my opinion.Regardless, it doesn't look good for him for the short term. Donald Brown's stock is soaring. Of course, he needs to get healthy and stay healthy but if he can do that he may finally provide an opportunity for the Colts to see if they made the right move taking him in the first round last year.

As a Brown dynasty owner, I would like to see him play for an extended period myself. If he really is a bust, better to know sooner than later so that you can move on and get him off roster. But if he really is talented and will be a player next year, then it is good to know so we don't get rid of him and stay patient.

 

[The Comedian]

I still think Addai saying 4-5 weeks is a pretty telling statement. That's a specific time table that he offered. That leads me to believe it's a time frame he was given. Yes he could be ok when he wakes up tomorrow but it also could be an injury that doesn't heal for more than a month. That matches up with the info RotoWorld received and NFL Network reported. We'll see what the second opinion brings but there are more than enough signs at the moment to conclude Addai is going to miss some time and perhaps a large chunk of time.

We get it. You really, really want Addai to be hurt.

 

[hotlanta]

The 4-5 week timeframe shouldn't be considered a sure thing yet, but the admission is worrisome. It seemed clear that the injury was a pretty significant stinger after it occurred and the news that he left the stadium in a sling was a red flag that he wasn't likely to recover quickly. If the strength doesn't return quickly -- and his comments that he's still struggling to lift his arm suggests he's still significantly weak -- there's really no timetable for recovery. It could be within a week or two or a month or two. The news that he's seeing a specialist makes you wonder if there's more than just weakness on exam, i.e. evidence of longer term nerve contusion on an MRI or something else that would suggest a longer timetable. There isn't a surgical procedure or injection that speeds up the healing process of a slow-to-heal stinger, so the specialist news gives pause as well.

he never said 4-5 weeks...he said: "It could come back any time between now and four or five weeks.”....big difference

He brought up a 4-5 week timetable without being asked. That's one red flag in my opinion because I doubt he came up with that on his own. I'm willing to wager that's a timetable he was given by the medical staff. We then have the RotoWorld source saying he's going to be out "awhile." We then have NFL Network saying he could be out "several weeks." We can conjecture on how long "awhile" or "several weeks" may be but when Addai himself is providing a possible time frame that seems to be a safe estimate in my opinion.Regardless, it doesn't look good for him for the short term. Donald Brown's stock is soaring. Of course, he needs to get healthy and stay healthy but if he can do that he may finally provide an opportunity for the Colts to see if they made the right move taking him in the first round last year.

As a Brown dynasty owner, I would like to see him play for an extended period myself. If he really is a bust, better to know sooner than later so that you can move on and get him off roster. But if he really is talented and will be a player next year, then it is good to know so we don't get rid of him and stay patient.

I think the biggest issue with Brown is his blitz pickup. I don't think that Peyton trusts him and for good reason. Yes, he led the NCAA in rushing at UCONN, but that was UCONN. I haven't seen anything at the pro level to indicate he's going to be a starting RB going forward. I think with what the Colts do with Addai being a free agent after this season will be telling.

 

[pantherclub]

Isnt Hart the big winner in all of this? Brown is not healthy and there really is not another back on the roster. I see Hart as an excellent fill in for the next few weeks.

 

[cr8f]

No feeling in the shoulder is what seems odd.

 

[gump]

Isnt Hart the big winner in all of this? Brown is not healthy and there really is not another back on the roster. I see Hart as an excellent fill in for the next few weeks.

That's what I'm wondering. All this talk about Brown and you're the first to mention Hart. Hart has looked good, and is healthy. Obviously his blitz pickup, etc won't be to Addai's level...but I also thought that was Brown's weakness.Is it a clear-cut Brown #1 and Hart #2 situation?

 

[kneeshooter]

I think the biggest issue with Brown is his blitz pickup. I don't think that Peyton trusts him and for good reason. Yes, he led the NCAA in rushing at UCONN, but that was UCONN. I haven't seen anything at the pro level to indicate he's going to be a starting RB going forward. I think with what the Colts do with Addai being a free agent after this season will be telling.

The biggest issue is that he just can't stay healthy. I think the whole "he can't pick up the blitz" excuse is overused and possibly untrue. Brown has shown he is unreliable in one area and that is staying on the field. And I don't what you've been watching but I've seen enough to lead me to believe that Brown can be a solid, productive back if he is able to take the field consistently and wins the right to the opportunity. Hopefully the next few games will show us what direction he is going.

 

[hotlanta]

I think the biggest issue with Brown is his blitz pickup. I don't think that Peyton trusts him and for good reason. Yes, he led the NCAA in rushing at UCONN, but that was UCONN. I haven't seen anything at the pro level to indicate he's going to be a starting RB going forward. I think with what the Colts do with Addai being a free agent after this season will be telling.

The biggest issue is that he just can't stay healthy. I think the whole "he can't pick up the blitz" excuse is overused and possibly untrue. Brown has shown he is unreliable in one area and that is staying on the field. And I don't what you've been watching but I've seen enough to lead me to believe that Brown can be a solid, productive back if he is able to take the field consistently and wins the right to the opportunity. Hopefully the next few games will show us what direction he is going.

Maybe so, but I would argue that his 3.6 YPC average in his career is nothing to get excited about. I didn't see him make people miss all that much, but I haven't watch all the Colts games to say for sure. With the blitz pickup think, I keep thinking about this one play. Listen to what Peyton says after this missed blitz pickup.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_k5nIpmSzg...feature=related

 

[packersfan]

I still think Addai saying 4-5 weeks is a pretty telling statement. That's a specific time table that he offered. That leads me to believe it's a time frame he was given. Yes he could be ok when he wakes up tomorrow but it also could be an injury that doesn't heal for more than a month. That matches up with the info RotoWorld received and NFL Network reported. We'll see what the second opinion brings but there are more than enough signs at the moment to conclude Addai is going to miss some time and perhaps a large chunk of time.

We get it. You really, really want Addai to be hurt.

Pretty huge swing and a miss there.

 

[packersfan]

Isnt Hart the big winner in all of this? Brown is not healthy and there really is not another back on the roster. I see Hart as an excellent fill in for the next few weeks.

That's what I'm wondering. All this talk about Brown and you're the first to mention Hart. Hart has looked good, and is healthy. Obviously his blitz pickup, etc won't be to Addai's level...but I also thought that was Brown's weakness.Is it a clear-cut Brown #1 and Hart #2 situation?

They drafted Brown in the first round with the idea at some point he'd take over for Addai. I think he's the guy who will get the first crack at the job. However, he has been extremely brittle thus far in his career so Hart definitely becomes a guy worth grabbing if Addai is out for an extended period. Brown could become the starter but it's anybody's guess whether he can stay healthy. Even if he does, the Colts may want to use Hart in order to keep Brown healthy.

 

[Menace]

Thinking of dropping S.Greene for Brown

 

[scrumptrulescent]

which RB start in his place? Hart or Brown?

Brown if healthy.

D Brown owner since 10/16

 

[shader]

Donald Brown is clearly the back to own here. I mean, yes, I would pick up Hart too, due to Brown's injury problems..

But Brown was drafted as a 1st rounder and this is his chance to show the organization what he has, get 15-20 carries and make a name for himself.

The Colts will win regardless of which RB is back there, so they'll give Brown a shot and see if he can play well and stay healthy.

Brown having a bye week is good, as he can rest up and prepare for the first start of his career.

 

[switz]

No feeling in the shoulder is what seems odd.

That's nerve damage for you. It could be as simple as a pinched nerve, which would cause numbness, and a simple massage could fix it. Or it could be more serious chronic nerve damage. If it's nerve damage due to spinal damage, or something muscular, it could go from permanent, to easily treatable, to nothing.I don't believe it's spinal damage, otherwise he would be out the season. It's probably muscularly related, and that's the 4-5 weeks maximum.

 

[switz]

I think the biggest issue with Brown is his blitz pickup. I don't think that Peyton trusts him and for good reason. Yes, he led the NCAA in rushing at UCONN, but that was UCONN. I haven't seen anything at the pro level to indicate he's going to be a starting RB going forward. I think with what the Colts do with Addai being a free agent after this season will be telling.

The biggest issue is that he just can't stay healthy. I think the whole "he can't pick up the blitz" excuse is overused and possibly untrue. Brown has shown he is unreliable in one area and that is staying on the field. And I don't what you've been watching but I've seen enough to lead me to believe that Brown can be a solid, productive back if he is able to take the field consistently and wins the right to the opportunity. Hopefully the next few games will show us what direction he is going.

For the Colts sake, I hope Brown is a great RB. From what I've seen, he's the typical guy who plays well at a small school, but isn't that great at the pro level. He is supposed to be a smart kid, but has a had a very difficult time picking up the Colts offense. He has very good speed, but doesn't seem to read plays well, or hit the right hole most of the time. He's a terrible pass blocker, and I think that's more just not recognizing what's going on on the field than a lack of willingness. Perhaps with more exposure on the field, he'll learn. But right now I wouldn't pin my hopes on him.

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

does anybody think:

a) Addai could be out for most or all of the rest of the season? any chance they IR him with an injury like this?

b) if Brown starts while Addai is out and does well, he keeps the starting gig?

 

[scrumptrulescent]

I think the biggest issue with Brown is his blitz pickup. I don't think that Peyton trusts him and for good reason. Yes, he led the NCAA in rushing at UCONN, but that was UCONN. I haven't seen anything at the pro level to indicate he's going to be a starting RB going forward. I think with what the Colts do with Addai being a free agent after this season will be telling.

The biggest issue is that he just can't stay healthy. I think the whole "he can't pick up the blitz" excuse is overused and possibly untrue. Brown has shown he is unreliable in one area and that is staying on the field. And I don't what you've been watching but I've seen enough to lead me to believe that Brown can be a solid, productive back if he is able to take the field consistently and wins the right to the opportunity. Hopefully the next few games will show us what direction he is going.

For the Colts sake, I hope Brown is a great RB. From what I've seen, he's the typical guy who plays well at a small school, but isn't that great at the pro level. He is supposed to be a smart kid, but has a had a very difficult time picking up the Colts offense. He has very good speed, but doesn't seem to read plays well, or hit the right hole most of the time. He's a terrible pass blocker, and I think that's more just not recognizing what's going on on the field than a lack of willingness. Perhaps with more exposure on the field, he'll learn. But right now I wouldn't pin my hopes on him.

Small school? They played solid D1 programs. Look at his eye popping numbers in 2008. 2008 stats

 

[gethugefast1]

When this Forum discussion is about "Brown"...is it about Donald or Andre?

Andre Brown-RB- Colts Oct. 19 - 9:57 am et

Colts claimed RB Andre Brown off waivers from the Broncos.

Brown lost one yard on two carries with the Broncos before being waived on Saturday. He'll give the Colts some depth at running back with Joseph Addai and Donald Brown both banged up.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

I think the biggest issue with Brown is his blitz pickup. I don't think that Peyton trusts him and for good reason. Yes, he led the NCAA in rushing at UCONN, but that was UCONN. I haven't seen anything at the pro level to indicate he's going to be a starting RB going forward. I think with what the Colts do with Addai being a free agent after this season will be telling.

The biggest issue is that he just can't stay healthy. I think the whole "he can't pick up the blitz" excuse is overused and possibly untrue. Brown has shown he is unreliable in one area and that is staying on the field. And I don't what you've been watching but I've seen enough to lead me to believe that Brown can be a solid, productive back if he is able to take the field consistently and wins the right to the opportunity. Hopefully the next few games will show us what direction he is going.

For the Colts sake, I hope Brown is a great RB. From what I've seen, he's the typical guy who plays well at a small school, but isn't that great at the pro level.

The Big East isn't necessarily on par with the rest of the BCS conferences, but I don't think you can label their programs as "small" schools.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Now the question is: do you spend a waiver wire pick on Brown now (wasting a roster space for 1 week), or do you wait until next week?

 

[Nicolas Cocaign]

You gotta pounce now if you want him. I'd regret it if I sat back and someone else scooped him up.

 

[Hurl Bruce]

I would think that you would want to pick up Brown this week before the Addai owner does.

I don't have Addai, but am considering dropping Tim Hightower for Brown this week.

 

[TeamDingo]

On the off chance that there might actually be a Joseph Addai Injury Update in this thread at some point in the future