Joseph Addai (1 Viewer)

[Oof!]

I agree his skillset is weak but he is still in a great position in that offense.

Yea, but for how long?Indy isn't the type of team that's constantly shuffling its personnel like Denver or Oakland, but if Addai continues to produce at this atrocious clip then you have to think Polian will look for someone who can perform better. I think I'd be looking to move Joseph if I had him in any of my dynasty leagues. He isn't an elite back, but he's valued like one.

Are bumps like this really necessary?Even though I agree with the viewpoint, I doubt this chest-thumping adds much to the Shark Pool.

Sheesh. You guys have gotten seriously uptight these days.

 

[Franknbeans]

I hereby dub thee Joseph Addaihole

 

[pizzatyme]

The Colts have seen enough of Addai to know that when a top flight RB was available they took him. By the end of the year Brown will prove them right and next season Brown will be starting. Addai is better coming off the bench against tiring competition.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Meet the fork.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Addai is the prefect example of why you draft Talent over Opp in Fantasy...

 

[packersfan]

Addai is the prefect example of why you draft Talent over Opp in Fantasy...

In the first round without a doubt. I think there can be examples in the middle or later rounds when opportunity is worth pursuing. Reuben Droughns' first season in Cleveland comes to mind. But in the first few rounds, you absolutely should go with talent in my opinion. And I agree that those owners who chased Addai last season (I was one of them) made a critical mistake of ignoring talent in favor of opportunity. That's a mistake I won't ever make again.

 

[TheFanatic]

I guess I need to man up and admit that I was wrong about Addai. I always felt the Colts needed a RB that can A) Block B) Catch C) Run. I guess they need someone who runs better than Addai. Now the question is if Addai can do anything to keep Brown off the field? If not, I think Addai just became Amp Lee....

 

[QUEZILLA]

With Arizona drafting a RB I would think it is only a matter of time that Edge gets released. I could have seen him back in Indy before they picked a RB.

 

[Traders2001]

I think it's a good thing for Addai .

Cause we will see what kind of RB he is , with Brown pushing for playing time ,

Addai will have to play his best to keep the rookie on the bench .

It can only be good for him and for the Colts . If he succeeds and has a great season ( 275 rushes - 1200 tds - 10 Rush Td and a few receiving )

Then the Colts have a nice problem next off season , what do we trade Addai for .

Cant wait til next September, and i am a Addai owner and Colts fan .

 

[Mario Kart]

I am not getting the love for Brown. Addai was drafted at the end of round one as well as Brown. Addai was injured last year and the Colts did not have a good option at backup. And, the backup, while decent, is not there anymore and they did not have one coming into this season.

If the Colts use Brown similar to how the Cowboys use their RB, good. Keep them healthy. If people think Brown is going to come in and be starting game one or even game ten without injury, I just don't see it.

 

[Otis]

I agree his skillset is weak but he is still in a great position in that offense.

Yea, but for how long?Indy isn't the type of team that's constantly shuffling its personnel like Denver or Oakland, but if Addai continues to produce at this atrocious clip then you have to think Polian will look for someone who can perform better.

I think I'd be looking to move Joseph if I had him in any of my dynasty leagues. He isn't an elite back, but he's valued like one.

Are bumps like this really necessary?Even though I agree with the viewpoint, I doubt this chest-thumping adds much to the Shark Pool.

http://cowlander.neobahumut.com/LOL%20PICT...%20Business.jpg

One of my faves.

 

[Otis]

I guess I need to man up and admit that I was wrong about Addai.

 

[Otis]

Always felt he's been overrated in fantasy circles.

Still feel this way.

Would anything change your mind?

Probably not. I've watched him play enough and he's been in the league long enough that I don't think he is going to become a dramatically different player. He's not one of the top talents in the league at RB. He's decent. He's Rudi Johnson if Rudi were on the Colts.

Lots of in this thread.

 

[thecardiackid]

While I'd much rather IND would have taken OL in the first, to help the cause, I'm not that worried about D Brown near term.

Just about every NFL team has some version of a RBBC, and varying %'ages of distribution apply. W/ Rhodes gone now, and Edge not in play, they had to get some more RB talent on the team. I don't think anyone is shocked by the move.

I'm just that Polian didn't take a OL till the 7th. (IND = RB, DT, CB, WR, DT, QB, P, OT) Seriously a freakin PUNTER before giving the O line some love? Hopefully the picked up some FA's (I don't follow the colts offseason moves closely).

I'm not sure about his contract term pending, but IND is not shy about letting 26+ish year old RBs walk (i.e. Faulk & Edge) vs. extending - so I imagine that will be the case w/ Addai as well.

And I don't think many of us (Addai owners - especailly in dynasty) have been selling or truly believe he's "elite" RB talent wise. Solid RB (Rudi Johnson comparisons OK here) - GREAT situation if the Peyton and the O line are performing. The guy just needs some decent blocking and the ability to overcome the dings ALL RBs face.

 

[djcolts]

I expect a redux of Colts 2006: the veteran (was Rhodes, now Addai) gets the starts, and gets about half the carries with a lower YPC; the rookie (was Addai, now Brown) gets the other half of the carries, with a higher YPC (because being the "changeup" will throw off the defenses and benefit the 2nd back). The big winner will be the Colts running game as a whole - it should be a lot better than last year's distaster. Better RBs, much better and healthier OL - and now I think with the DL being addressed in a major way - the D will be better at getting the opponent off the field, so there should be more offensive possessions next year. I'm very hopeful about the Colts running game now.

 

[djcolts]

While I'd much rather IND would have taken OL in the first, to help the cause, I'm not that worried about D Brown near term.Just about every NFL team has some version of a RBBC, and varying %'ages of distribution apply. W/ Rhodes gone now, and Edge not in play, they had to get some more RB talent on the team. I don't think anyone is shocked by the move.I'm just that Polian didn't take a OL till the 7th. (IND = RB, DT, CB, WR, DT, QB, P, OT) Seriously a freakin PUNTER before giving the O line some love? Hopefully the picked up some FA's (I don't follow the colts offseason moves closely).I'm not sure about his contract term pending, but IND is not shy about letting 26+ish year old RBs walk (i.e. Faulk & Edge) vs. extending - so I imagine that will be the case w/ Addai as well. And I don't think many of us (Addai owners - especailly in dynasty) have been selling or truly believe he's "elite" RB talent wise. Solid RB (Rudi Johnson comparisons OK here) - GREAT situation if the Peyton and the O line are performing. The guy just needs some decent blocking and the ability to overcome the dings ALL RBs face.

The OL will be much more than fine this year. Why?1. They drafted 3 C/G prospects last year. Give them some time to develop. Richard showed some promise in a tough spot last year - Pollak should get better. 2. Saturday played virtually on one leg last season after a pre-season knee injury. He'll play on two legs this season.3. Ryan Lilja didn't play last season. Hopefully he'll recover.4. The Colts signed two more OG prospects right before the draft - so Polian is not sitting on his hands here.5. The Colts signed a talented UDFA tackle prospect tonight (Lewis from Tenn St) - I think if he keeps his head on straight he could make the team as a backup tackle.

 

[Tigerbot Hesh]

 

[switz]

The Colts have seen enough of Addai to know that when a top flight RB was available they took him. By the end of the year Brown will prove them right and next season Brown will be starting. Addai is better coming off the bench against tiring competition.

Are you really calling Brown a top-flight RB????????????????

 

[SmokeScreen]

...he isn't that good. Since the halfway point of last season:11 games152 carries475 yards3.13 YPC

It wasn't so much him as it was the line. But he had his part to play. I think we could point to many different reasons and probably run out of fingers. Addai is NOT a full time back. He needs to have someone to share the load, because he can not take the pounding. Some people have given him a nick name, “Tap Out” because he comes out every time he takes a good clean shot. Addai is a great change of pace back. Donald Brown need to be the brawler in that scheme.

 

[EBF]

I expect a redux of Colts 2006: the veteran (was Rhodes, now Addai) gets the starts, and gets about half the carries with a lower YPC; the rookie (was Addai, now Brown) gets the other half of the carries, with a higher YPC (because being the "changeup" will throw off the defenses and benefit the 2nd back). The big winner will be the Colts running game as a whole - it should be a lot better than last year's distaster. Better RBs, much better and healthier OL - and now I think with the DL being addressed in a major way - the D will be better at getting the opponent off the field, so there should be more offensive possessions next year. I'm very hopeful about the Colts running game now.

This is about how I see it. Unless Brown turns out to be a superstar talent, neither player will be a reliable RB1 in FF leagues.

 

[switz]

I expect a redux of Colts 2006: the veteran (was Rhodes, now Addai) gets the starts, and gets about half the carries with a lower YPC; the rookie (was Addai, now Brown) gets the other half of the carries, with a higher YPC (because being the "changeup" will throw off the defenses and benefit the 2nd back). The big winner will be the Colts running game as a whole - it should be a lot better than last year's distaster. Better RBs, much better and healthier OL - and now I think with the DL being addressed in a major way - the D will be better at getting the opponent off the field, so there should be more offensive possessions next year. I'm very hopeful about the Colts running game now.

This is about how I see it. Unless Brown turns out to be a superstar talent, neither player will be a reliable RB1 in FF leagues.

I may end up being completely wrong, but I don't see Brown beating out Addai for starter, unless Addai gets hurt (which looks pretty possible LOL)Addai IMO is more talented than Brown, but is soft. Brown, I don't see him faring well against NFL defenses.So I see a mix of the two, neither being anything special FF wise... I still hold out hope that Addai is motivated enough to perform up to 1st half '07 stats.

 

[pizzatyme]

The Colts have seen enough of Addai to know that when a top flight RB was available they took him. By the end of the year Brown will prove them right and next season Brown will be starting. Addai is better coming off the bench against tiring competition.

Are you really calling Brown a top-flight RB????????????????

Yes. I have as many reasons to say he will be as you do to say he won't.Addai was a pick out of necessity and wasn't a perfect fit. He did well at the height of the passing offense's glory days. Now, he dances and dances and dances to the hole, before during, and after it closes.

I believe Polian saw 2 or 3 guys he wanted at the 1.27. Guys who he viewed as elite. Brown was one of them. I also believe I read that more than one team had Brown as their #1 RB on their draft board.

2000+ yards is nothing to sneeze at, especially when everyone knows it's coming. I like his speed throug the hole. I like his ability to make the first guy miss. And I like that I saw him squat 585 LBS.

We'll see...

 

[thecardiackid]

I expect a redux of Colts 2006: the veteran (was Rhodes, now Addai) gets the starts, and gets about half the carries with a lower YPC; the rookie (was Addai, now Brown) gets the other half of the carries, with a higher YPC (because being the "changeup" will throw off the defenses and benefit the 2nd back). The big winner will be the Colts running game as a whole - it should be a lot better than last year's distaster. Better RBs, much better and healthier OL - and now I think with the DL being addressed in a major way - the D will be better at getting the opponent off the field, so there should be more offensive possessions next year. I'm very hopeful about the Colts running game now.

This is about how I see it. Unless Brown turns out to be a superstar talent, neither player will be a reliable RB1 in FF leagues.

I may end up being completely wrong, but I don't see Brown beating out Addai for starter, unless Addai gets hurt (which looks pretty possible LOL)Addai IMO is more talented than Brown, but is soft. Brown, I don't see him faring well against NFL defenses.So I see a mix of the two, neither being anything special FF wise... I still hold out hope that Addai is motivated enough to perform up to 1st half '07 stats.

I think this calls for a :grouphug: icon.I'm hoping for a quick start for Addai, stringing together 4 or 5 nice games - so his trade value is respectable. Then move him to the Brown owner...

 

[Tanner9919]

The Colts have seen enough of Addai to know that when a top flight RB was available they took him. By the end of the year Brown will prove them right and next season Brown will be starting. Addai is better coming off the bench against tiring competition.

Are you really calling Brown a top-flight RB????????????????

Yes. I have as many reasons to say he will be as you do to say he won't.Addai was a pick out of necessity and wasn't a perfect fit. He did well at the height of the passing offense's glory days. Now, he dances and dances and dances to the hole, before during, and after it closes.

I believe Polian saw 2 or 3 guys he wanted at the 1.27. Guys who he viewed as elite. Brown was one of them. I also believe I read that more than one team had Brown as their #1 RB on their draft board.

2000+ yards is nothing to sneeze at, especially when everyone knows it's coming. I like his speed throug the hole. I like his ability to make the first guy miss. And I like that I saw him squat 585 LBS.

We'll see...

never doubt Bill Polian..the guy is almost always right on-the-money!I think it takes just one twisted ankle on Addai's behalf, for Brown to take over the starting role and never relinquish it..

Polian drafting a RB in the first round, says a lot..writing is most definitely on the wall for Addai..

Brown will likely be on everyone's top 10 'sleeper' list by the time July rolls around..

 

[Sinrj]

The Colts have seen enough of Addai to know that when a top flight RB was available they took him. By the end of the year Brown will prove them right and next season Brown will be starting. Addai is better coming off the bench against tiring competition.

Are you really calling Brown a top-flight RB????????????????

Yes. I have as many reasons to say he will be as you do to say he won't.Addai was a pick out of necessity and wasn't a perfect fit. He did well at the height of the passing offense's glory days. Now, he dances and dances and dances to the hole, before during, and after it closes.

I believe Polian saw 2 or 3 guys he wanted at the 1.27. Guys who he viewed as elite. Brown was one of them. I also believe I read that more than one team had Brown as their #1 RB on their draft board.

2000+ yards is nothing to sneeze at, especially when everyone knows it's coming. I like his speed throug the hole. I like his ability to make the first guy miss. And I like that I saw him squat 585 LBS.

We'll see...

never doubt Bill Polian..the guy is almost always right on-the-money!I think it takes just one twisted ankle on Addai's behalf, for Brown to take over the starting role and never relinquish it..

Polian drafting a RB in the first round, says a lot..writing is most definitely on the wall for Addai..

Brown will likely be on everyone's top 10 'sleeper' list by the time July rolls around..

He's the one who drafted Addai too...

 

[RockHard]

The Colts have seen enough of Addai to know that when a top flight RB was available they took him. By the end of the year Brown will prove them right and next season Brown will be starting. Addai is better coming off the bench against tiring competition.

Are you really calling Brown a top-flight RB????????????????

Yes. I have as many reasons to say he will be as you do to say he won't.Addai was a pick out of necessity and wasn't a perfect fit. He did well at the height of the passing offense's glory days. Now, he dances and dances and dances to the hole, before during, and after it closes.

I believe Polian saw 2 or 3 guys he wanted at the 1.27. Guys who he viewed as elite. Brown was one of them. I also believe I read that more than one team had Brown as their #1 RB on their draft board.

2000+ yards is nothing to sneeze at, especially when everyone knows it's coming. I like his speed throug the hole. I like his ability to make the first guy miss. And I like that I saw him squat 585 LBS.

We'll see...

never doubt Bill Polian..the guy is almost always right on-the-money!I think it takes just one twisted ankle on Addai's behalf, for Brown to take over the starting role and never relinquish it..

Polian drafting a RB in the first round, says a lot..writing is most definitely on the wall for Addai..

Brown will likely be on everyone's top 10 'sleeper' list by the time July rolls around..

Polian, Ozzie Newsome, and Pittsburgh's GM have a great batting average with 1st round picks.

 

[runner06]

While I'd much rather IND would have taken OL in the first, to help the cause, I'm not that worried about D Brown near term.Just about every NFL team has some version of a RBBC, and varying %'ages of distribution apply. W/ Rhodes gone now, and Edge not in play, they had to get some more RB talent on the team. I don't think anyone is shocked by the move.I'm just that Polian didn't take a OL till the 7th. (IND = RB, DT, CB, WR, DT, QB, P, OT) Seriously a freakin PUNTER before giving the O line some love? Hopefully the picked up some FA's (I don't follow the colts offseason moves closely).I'm not sure about his contract term pending, but IND is not shy about letting 26+ish year old RBs walk (i.e. Faulk & Edge) vs. extending - so I imagine that will be the case w/ Addai as well. And I don't think many of us (Addai owners - especailly in dynasty) have been selling or truly believe he's "elite" RB talent wise. Solid RB (Rudi Johnson comparisons OK here) - GREAT situation if the Peyton and the O line are performing. The guy just needs some decent blocking and the ability to overcome the dings ALL RBs face.

Considering the Chargers punting game was a lot of the reason why we lost to them in the playoffs this year, I'm very happy we drafted a punted. In fact, I wouldn't have minded taking our guy sooner.

 

[TheFanatic]

The Colts have seen enough of Addai to know that when a top flight RB was available they took him. By the end of the year Brown will prove them right and next season Brown will be starting. Addai is better coming off the bench against tiring competition.

Are you really calling Brown a top-flight RB????????????????

Yes. I have as many reasons to say he will be as you do to say he won't.Addai was a pick out of necessity and wasn't a perfect fit. He did well at the height of the passing offense's glory days. Now, he dances and dances and dances to the hole, before during, and after it closes.

I believe Polian saw 2 or 3 guys he wanted at the 1.27. Guys who he viewed as elite. Brown was one of them. I also believe I read that more than one team had Brown as their #1 RB on their draft board.

2000+ yards is nothing to sneeze at, especially when everyone knows it's coming. I like his speed throug the hole. I like his ability to make the first guy miss. And I like that I saw him squat 585 LBS.

We'll see...

never doubt Bill Polian..the guy is almost always right on-the-money!I think it takes just one twisted ankle on Addai's behalf, for Brown to take over the starting role and never relinquish it..

Polian drafting a RB in the first round, says a lot..writing is most definitely on the wall for Addai..

Brown will likely be on everyone's top 10 'sleeper' list by the time July rolls around..

He's the one who drafted Addai too...

Pretty circular logic there. Can't say he is right on all the time when, according to the argument here, Polian was wrong about Addai....

 

[supermark_28]

This has probably been touched on in another thread but do we have any idea how good DB is at picking up the blitz/pass rush? He might have all the talent in the world but if you whiff on a block and get Manning killed,you're riding the pine.

 

[TheFanatic]

This has probably been touched on in another thread but do we have any idea how good DB is at picking up the blitz/pass rush? He might have all the talent in the world but if you whiff on a block and get Manning killed,you're riding the pine.

Questionable at best. UConn never passed. Says a lot that the kid could go off for all those yards with no passing game, but it also means that he was never required to pass block much. I think in his last bowl game they passed 6 times the entire game. This is my argument, if the kid can't pick up the blitz he won't see the field. First time he misses a block and Manning gets drilled the guy will be on the bench and be ran through the hardest week of practice in his life. That doesn't mean he can't learn to block in minicamps and TC. But if he doesn't he will not see the field. The coaches may call a run, but Manning has veto power and the coaching staff will not risk him changing the play to a pass with the kid back there if DB can't block...

 

[switz]

This has probably been touched on in another thread but do we have any idea how good DB is at picking up the blitz/pass rush? He might have all the talent in the world but if you whiff on a block and get Manning killed,you're riding the pine.

Questionable at best. UConn never passed. Says a lot that the kid could go off for all those yards with no passing game, but it also means that he was never required to pass block much. I think in his last bowl game they passed 6 times the entire game.

It would if he wasn't playing Buffalo and Hofstra...The kid hasn't faced a decent defense yet, he hasn't been needed to pass block at all, and he reportedly isn't the smartest cookie in the jar. As a Colts fan that bleeds blue, I hope he turns into Marshall Faulk, but I doubt it. If you guys don't like Addai, you'll like Brown even less.

 

[Casting Couch]

Now with Brown out, how does this translate to Addai and his ability to put

up respectable FF numbers ? I am concerned about his low YPC, but I like the Colts offensive scheme.