Josh Gordon value with QB Hoyer injury? (1 Viewer)

[Squatch]

No worries here, Weeden doesnt have the touch Hoyer does, but he was hitting Gordon nicely on those Deep ins, outs and hooks last night. He has a huge arm. My only concern is his pocket awareness, he will kill alot of drives by taking sacks...I think his ability to hit the deepball makes it a wash though.

Yup, this is what I think. I remember watching the Browns last year and Weeden would suck, for the most part, but there would still be one or two plays where the combination of Weeden's arm and Gordon's speed would result in an opportunity for a BIG play (great for distance leagues) that could make a week. Yeah, Gordon dropped a couple (as he did last night in the Brown's first series), but Weeden really does throw a nice deep ball (the other throws? different story). But you know, at this point, neither Weeden's nor Gordon's bread'n'butter are the intermediate or short routes (to wit: how many short TDs does Gordon have in his brief career?), So, to be honest, I don't necessarily downgrade either Gordon or Cameron. Gordon may still get the big plays, but Cameron may still retain primacy in the RZ (see his results from the first couple of weeks and Gordon's lack of RZ history). If anything, maybe a slight downgrade in PPRs for both, but nothing too calamitous in non-PPRs.

 

[grateful zed]

I don't care if Ryan Leaf is their QB

not gunna happen.

 

[Soulfly3]

Im baffled though that Gordon is rarely, off memory, targeted in the RZ

I mean, he should be getting Julio/Megatron type TDs steadily. no defender is gonna outjump him w a feather to the corner of the endzone

 

[PhantomJB]

Gordon went for 50/800/5 last season with Weeden. I'd say his value is a little bit more than that this season with Weeden now that Cameron is coming on finally. I'll say Gordon finishes the season somewhere around.... 70 receptions, 900 yards, 8 TDs. Still a solid WR2. Hoyer's injury just ruins the real chances of Gordon turning into a every week WR1 this season. Keep in mind, they don't have a super tough passing schedule:

Detroit: Will have to throw all game to keep pace. And their D isn't that good.

@ Green Bay: See above

@ Kansas City: Bad matchup

Baltimore: Middle of the road offense and defense, he can beat anyone they put back there.

@ Cincy: See Baltimore

Pitt: See Baltimore

Jacksonville: Easy matchup

@ New England: You can throw on them and their offense will need to be kept up with, Gronk and hopefully Amendola should be back by then.

Chicago: See Baltimore

@ Jets: Not a great matchup, him vs Cromartie should be fun to watch actually.

@ Pitt: See Pitt

This is a good writeup but I think you might be a bit conservative on your yards.

Gordon is currently at 16/303/2 after 3 games. End of year 70/900/8 implies ROS of 52/600/6, which means a ROS average of 4.7 catches / 54.5 yards / 0.5 TD's per game.

I like the catches and TD projections but the yards imply only 11.6 ypc.

In 2012 Gordon averaged 16.1 ypc and this year he is at 16.8 ypc so let's be conservative and say 14 ypc ROS figuring in both regression and Weeden.

Now we're at 4.7 / 65.8 / 0.5 per game which extrapolates out to approx. 52/725/6 ROS and 70 / 1025 / 8 for a 14-game season.

If I did my math right, those figures pro-rate to about 80 / 1170 / 9 for a 16-game season which would have placed Gordon right around WR12 in 2012 so yes, definitely low-end WR1 / high-end WR2 and maybe even some upside.

 

[Grady Wilson]

I can thank the CBS podcast for putting Gordon on my must have list, Berry very high on him too. FBG not at all, they really whiffed on Gordon.

Whew, I was worried about that...

 

[SportsGuru311]

I do think Gordon's value will drop.