Josh Gordon- will he be the guy in CLE? (1 Viewer)

[Clifford]

Gordon only moves if this is truly a fire sale, but even in that scenario dealing him makes no sense.

I think Gordon remains a Brown and suffers through 2013 with whoever they have at QB.

 

[werdnoynek]

If I were Gordon, I would have smoked a big fat Marley doobie last night and maybe a couple of dab's to top it off...

ETA: I don't think his redraft fantasy value changes much at all with the loss of Richardson. I think he's now the best offensive weapon on the team and his targets will likely go up. In dynasty, he's a good target again to buy... new QB coming in next year and as long as his head's on straight, he will be the rook's best friend.

 

[fbelange]

Not giving him the start this week. But hopefully once Weeden comes back I can throw him in there along with Demaryius Thomas and Brandon Marshall....mmm licking my chops thinking about it

 

[Boomer1]

Whats his value in redraft - He was just dropped by an owner who picked up McGahee...This seems totally backawards to me as they will be behind EVERY game and nobody can catch the ball...

I currently have $26 FAAB on him (1/3 of my budget) but feel he'll be much like Fitz has been without a QB; servicable but nothing special in most formats...

 

[werdnoynek]

Not giving him the start this week. But hopefully once Weeden comes back I can throw him in there along with Demaryius Thomas and Brandon Marshall....mmm licking my chops thinking about it

Weeden may not be coming back... but it really shouldn't matter. Hoyer and Weeden aren't all that different.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Gordon only moves if this is truly a fire sale, but even in that scenario dealing him makes no sense.

I think Gordon remains a Brown and suffers through 2013 with whoever they have at QB.

If he could suffer like Cecil Short has done in my PPR I would be very appreciative

 

[Arwald]

C'mon Patriots!

Give Brady a weapon before the window closes!

 

[Banger]

He's got off the field issues but supreme talent so someone would take a shot at him. Value wise I doubt he could get more than a 4th but that may be ok for a franchise looking to stock up and reboot with their guys. Especially if they feel he runs a decent chance at smoking weed again and risking a one year ban. Better to get a 4th than nothing...

 

[LawFitz]

Tempted to play Gordon this week, despite the big changes at QB and RB. Chud said the reason they went with Hoyer over Campbell is that his skill set better fits the game plan they had this week. I read that to mean deep passes to Gordon. I'm expecting a ton of looks, and at least three of the deep variety. All he needs is to get a hold of one of those and his day is set as my WR3. Minny's D doesn't scare me, despite the love fest going on for them over in the Rent a D thread.

 

[REDRUM26]

Matt Waldman says Josh Gordon is the closest thing to Randy Moss we have in the NFL (based on skills and potential ceiling)

 

[Banger]

Matt Waldman says Josh Gordon is the closest thing to Randy Moss we have in the NFL (based on skills and potential ceiling)

what he did last year was pretty amazing. Out of football a year, little to no TC, crap qb and crap team and he put up some really nice numbers. Tons of talent but a 10 cent head. It sounds like they weren't happy with his offseason so there are certainly red flags, especially from a dynasty perspective, unless you can get him cheap enough where if he disappears it won't crush you.

 

[SayWhat?]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

 

[Bob Magaw]

wasn't exec lombardi highly critical of the browns spending a second on gordon when he was working for the NFL channel?

if they do trade, it may say as much or more about gordon as the browns...

they have been able to observe him since taking over, and may not like what they see, maturity and professionalism-wise...

next mistake could be one year suspension...

not trying to be a downer, hope he can turn his career around, he has elite talent (slower dre johnson?) if he can get his head on straight, but there is a lot of attendant risk for a regime that didn't draft him, and doesn't have a vested interest in him...

but with all the baggage, what would he fetch? a fourth at best, maybe fifth (or maybe conditional on playing time)?

This means they won't get anywhere close to equal value.

So trading Gordon does not make sense, and his value will be ####e unless Hoyer actually plays better than Weeden, which I doubt.

Obviously neither Weeden nor Hoyer are going to be starting next year. Anywhere. So I don't see why they wouldn't play Weeden when healthy. It's not like they'll be seeing what they have in other QBs or grooming their QB of the future.

And why not have Weeden in there to at least get Gordon some experience? I don't think they trade Gordon as his contract is really cheap and they'll need a WR next year if they land a franchise QB.

we don't really know what is going behind the scenes...

if he is guzzling syzzurp in the locker room, and looks destined to be out of the league in near future, fourth or fifth could be far more than fair value...

i tend to agree with you in the sense that he is a tremendous talent...

but we don't know how the new regime views him, and if he is in their long term plans...

if they view his attitude as toxic and potentially contagious and disruptive, they may be motivated to move him and get what they can, even if it isn't generally perceived as for "market value"...

as with richardson, they didn't draft him, don't have a vested interest in him...

 

[shader]

If they are about to draft a QB in 2014, it would make no sense to trade Josh Gordon for pennies on the dollar. Unless the Browns truly have no clue, which is obviously a possibility.

 

[Banger]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

I really disagree. I think dealing TRich hurts Gordon's value a good bit in the short term. TRich was a threat and kept extra players in the box which gives Gordon more room to roam..now with no threat that extra player will be tied to Gordon's hip. I don't think there was any illusion that Weeden was any good...the only way he kept his job going forward was to play lights out which no one expected to occur.

 

[Clifford]

Matt Waldman says Josh Gordon is the closest thing to Randy Moss we have in the NFL (based on skills and potential ceiling)

Matt is prone to outlandish comparisons. I can't count the number of nothing RBs he's compared to Adrian Peterson.

 

[Clifford]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

I really disagree. I think dealing TRich hurts Gordon's value a good bit in the short term. TRich was a threat and kept extra players in the box which gives Gordon more room to roam..now with no threat that extra player will be tied to Gordon's hip. I don't think there was any illusion that Weeden was any good...the only way he kept his job going forward was to play lights out which no one expected to occur.

Look at the NYG situation. Their receivers haven't suffered at all through two games. Cruz is top five, Nicks is top 15, and I thin even Myers is in the top 6 TEs.

Also, there is this glimmer of hope:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Brandon Weeden's sprained throwing thumb does not require surgery, and he could return as early as Week 4.
The question is if he'll be returning as the starter. The Browns are tanking the season, and GM Mike Lombardi is a long-time admirer of Sunday's fill-in starter Brian Hoyer. Weeden clearly isn't a part of Lombardi's long-term plans, and could find himself on the bench if Hoyer is something close to competent against the Vikings. There's no guarantee he will be. If the Browns are serious about at least being competitive, they'll reinstall Weeden once he's healthy. Sep 19 - 2:32 PM

So we all know the Browns are tanking, but they can't openly admit that to the fans. They have to keep insisting they are doing everything they can to win. So here are the two ways this could play out for Gordon:

Hoyer shines: If Hoyer comes out and plays better than Weeden has the first two weeks, while demonstrating a decent ability to make a wide range of throws (IOW not Matt Flynn), then Weeden likely doesn't see the starting gig again unless Hoyer severely tanks down the road. In this scenario, the impact on Gordon is neutral to good, as he gets a QB that is as good or better than Weeden

Hoyer sucks: If Hoyer sucks balls, the Browns will be forced to play Weeden to prove that they aren't intentionally tanking this season. Sure, they could dream up a fake injury, or cut him, but that would only prove that they are in fact tanking. So they are not going to keep Weeden buried on the bench if Hoyer sucks monkey balls. And they know that Weeden sucks enough to still allow them to lose consistently, so they get to appear like they are trying to win, but still get great assurances that they will lose as planned. Effect on Gordon is net neutral.

So IMO Gordon either improves a little or stays the same.

 

[cstu]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

I really disagree. I think dealing TRich hurts Gordon's value a good bit in the short term. TRich was a threat and kept extra players in the box which gives Gordon more room to roam..now with no threat that extra player will be tied to Gordon's hip. I don't think there was any illusion that Weeden was any good...the only way he kept his job going forward was to play lights out which no one expected to occur.

Look at the NYG situation. Their receivers haven't suffered at all through two games. Cruz is top five, Nicks is top 15, and I thin even Myers is in the top 6 TEs.Also, there is this glimmer of hope:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Brandon Weeden's sprained throwing thumb does not require surgery, and he could return as early as Week 4.

The question is if he'll be returning as the starter. The Browns are tanking the season, and GM Mike Lombardi is a long-time admirer of Sunday's fill-in starter Brian Hoyer. Weeden clearly isn't a part of Lombardi's long-term plans, and could find himself on the bench if Hoyer is something close to competent against the Vikings. There's no guarantee he will be. If the Browns are serious about at least being competitive, they'll reinstall Weeden once he's healthy. Sep 19 - 2:32 PM

So we all know the Browns are tanking, but they can't openly admit that to the fans. They have to keep insisting they are doing everything they can to win. So here are the two ways this could play out for Gordon:

Hoyer shines: If Hoyer comes out and plays better than Weeden has the first two weeks, while demonstrating a decent ability to make a wide range of throws (IOW not Matt Flynn), then Weeden likely doesn't see the starting gig again unless Hoyer severely tanks down the road. In this scenario, the impact on Gordon is neutral to good, as he gets a QB that is as good or better than Weeden

Hoyer sucks: If Hoyer sucks balls, the Browns will be forced to play Weeden to prove that they aren't intentionally tanking this season. Sure, they could dream up a fake injury, or cut him, but that would only prove that they are in fact tanking. So they are not going to keep Weeden buried on the bench if Hoyer sucks monkey balls. And they know that Weeden sucks enough to still allow them to lose consistently, so they get to appear like they are trying to win, but still get great assurances that they will lose as planned. Effect on Gordon is net neutral.

So IMO Gordon either improves a little or stays the same.

Look at how bad Painter had to play before the Colts switched to Orlovsky - not until they were a nice, safe 0-11. Even then Orlovsky almost blew it by not throwing INT's.

 

[LawFitz]

Suck for Teddy <> Suck for Luck

 

[Clifford]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

I really disagree. I think dealing TRich hurts Gordon's value a good bit in the short term. TRich was a threat and kept extra players in the box which gives Gordon more room to roam..now with no threat that extra player will be tied to Gordon's hip. I don't think there was any illusion that Weeden was any good...the only way he kept his job going forward was to play lights out which no one expected to occur.

Look at the NYG situation. Their receivers haven't suffered at all through two games. Cruz is top five, Nicks is top 15, and I thin even Myers is in the top 6 TEs.Also, there is this glimmer of hope:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Brandon Weeden's sprained throwing thumb does not require surgery, and he could return as early as Week 4.

The question is if he'll be returning as the starter. The Browns are tanking the season, and GM Mike Lombardi is a long-time admirer of Sunday's fill-in starter Brian Hoyer. Weeden clearly isn't a part of Lombardi's long-term plans, and could find himself on the bench if Hoyer is something close to competent against the Vikings. There's no guarantee he will be. If the Browns are serious about at least being competitive, they'll reinstall Weeden once he's healthy. Sep 19 - 2:32 PM

So we all know the Browns are tanking, but they can't openly admit that to the fans. They have to keep insisting they are doing everything they can to win. So here are the two ways this could play out for Gordon:

Hoyer shines: If Hoyer comes out and plays better than Weeden has the first two weeks, while demonstrating a decent ability to make a wide range of throws (IOW not Matt Flynn), then Weeden likely doesn't see the starting gig again unless Hoyer severely tanks down the road. In this scenario, the impact on Gordon is neutral to good, as he gets a QB that is as good or better than Weeden

Hoyer sucks: If Hoyer sucks balls, the Browns will be forced to play Weeden to prove that they aren't intentionally tanking this season. Sure, they could dream up a fake injury, or cut him, but that would only prove that they are in fact tanking. So they are not going to keep Weeden buried on the bench if Hoyer sucks monkey balls. And they know that Weeden sucks enough to still allow them to lose consistently, so they get to appear like they are trying to win, but still get great assurances that they will lose as planned. Effect on Gordon is net neutral.

So IMO Gordon either improves a little or stays the same.

Look at how bad Painter had to play before the Colts switched to Orlovsky - not until they were a nice, safe 0-11. Even then Orlovsky almost blew it by not throwing INT's.

The Colts weren't trying to prove to people that they weren't tanking the season. And the sad part was, they really weren't.

The Browns have been accused of tanking by every media outlet in existence. Hell I bet this was a topic on the View. I think if Weeden has a clean bill of health, and Hoyer sucks worse than Weeden, they put Weeden back in to placate their fanbase.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

I really disagree. I think dealing TRich hurts Gordon's value a good bit in the short term. TRich was a threat and kept extra players in the box which gives Gordon more room to roam..now with no threat that extra player will be tied to Gordon's hip. I don't think there was any illusion that Weeden was any good...the only way he kept his job going forward was to play lights out which no one expected to occur.

The Browns also lack additional receivers besides Cameron. Basically if defenses ignore the run and drop back in coverage or just all out blitz then Hoyer will have to outright burn them for doing so.

 

[Chaka]

C'mon Patriots!

Give Brady a weapon before the window closes!

2005 happened already.

 

[Banger]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

I really disagree. I think dealing TRich hurts Gordon's value a good bit in the short term. TRich was a threat and kept extra players in the box which gives Gordon more room to roam..now with no threat that extra player will be tied to Gordon's hip. I don't think there was any illusion that Weeden was any good...the only way he kept his job going forward was to play lights out which no one expected to occur.

Look at the NYG situation. Their receivers haven't suffered at all through two games. Cruz is top five, Nicks is top 15, and I thin even Myers is in the top 6 TEs.

Also, there is this glimmer of hope:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Brandon Weeden's sprained throwing thumb does not require surgery, and he could return as early as Week 4.
The question is if he'll be returning as the starter. The Browns are tanking the season, and GM Mike Lombardi is a long-time admirer of Sunday's fill-in starter Brian Hoyer. Weeden clearly isn't a part of Lombardi's long-term plans, and could find himself on the bench if Hoyer is something close to competent against the Vikings. There's no guarantee he will be. If the Browns are serious about at least being competitive, they'll reinstall Weeden once he's healthy. Sep 19 - 2:32 PM

So we all know the Browns are tanking, but they can't openly admit that to the fans. They have to keep insisting they are doing everything they can to win. So here are the two ways this could play out for Gordon:

Hoyer shines: If Hoyer comes out and plays better than Weeden has the first two weeks, while demonstrating a decent ability to make a wide range of throws (IOW not Matt Flynn), then Weeden likely doesn't see the starting gig again unless Hoyer severely tanks down the road. In this scenario, the impact on Gordon is neutral to good, as he gets a QB that is as good or better than Weeden

Hoyer sucks: If Hoyer sucks balls, the Browns will be forced to play Weeden to prove that they aren't intentionally tanking this season. Sure, they could dream up a fake injury, or cut him, but that would only prove that they are in fact tanking. So they are not going to keep Weeden buried on the bench if Hoyer sucks monkey balls. And they know that Weeden sucks enough to still allow them to lose consistently, so they get to appear like they are trying to win, but still get great assurances that they will lose as planned. Effect on Gordon is net neutral.

So IMO Gordon either improves a little or stays the same.

ya and they have Eli Manning throwing the ball, Cruz, Nicks, Randle and Meyers. A lot more good, experienced players to pass it to and a QB that is >>>>>>>any trash the Browns have. The Browns have Gordon and Cameron..that's it so throwing to Gordon in double/triple coverage should be an adventure. They just took their biggest talent and threat out of the offense...I can't see how it won't negatively impact Gordon.

Believe me, I hope it doesn't as I own Gordon in 2 of 3 leagues but where I was very hopeful to get mid WR2 production...now I'm certainly not as optimistic.

 

[cstu]

Here's some hope for Gordon owners:

Garcon had a low WR2 season in 2011 with Painter and Orlovsky.

 

[silentcoach]

This is the only hope for Gordon right now: he will get 10 targets a week.

See G.Little's 10 and 12 targets the first 2 weeks (albeit with another qb).

Production? Who knows.

 

[tdhartis]

Here's some hope for Gordon owners:

Garcon had a low WR2 season in 2011 with Painter and Orlovsky.

Is there a large enough sample size to be so sure that Hoyer isn't worse than both of them? I know Painter would be hard to beat out in terms of suckitude, but still.

 

[menobrown]

Here's some hope for Gordon owners:

Garcon had a low WR2 season in 2011 with Painter and Orlovsky.

Roddy White full on broke out when Chris Redman took over. In more recent history Shorts and Blackmon had somewhat breakout performance last year with JAG's QB's. Before his knee injury Kenny Britt basically went wild when Collins replaced Young.

Hoyer is not ideal but it's not as if he's going from Peyton to Hoyer either. Weeden was a sorry raw rookie last year and Gordon was a raw rookie who had not even played football in a year or two and he still put up over 800 yards. Don't over think this. The Browns just traded their bell cow RB and they are going to have to chunk the ball.

 

[SayWhat?]

As a Gordon dynasty owner, I couldn't be happier about the Richardson trade for Gordon's sake. It seems like they realize that they need a QB, and they're putting themselves in a position to acquire one next season. Only bodes well for Gordon, if he can stay out of trouble off the field, in my opinion. And as others have said, the Browns are going to be airing it out this year with a mediocre ground attack.

I really disagree. I think dealing TRich hurts Gordon's value a good bit in the short term. TRich was a threat and kept extra players in the box which gives Gordon more room to roam..now with no threat that extra player will be tied to Gordon's hip. I don't think there was any illusion that Weeden was any good...the only way he kept his job going forward was to play lights out which no one expected to occur.

Look at the NYG situation. Their receivers haven't suffered at all through two games. Cruz is top five, Nicks is top 15, and I thin even Myers is in the top 6 TEs.

Also, there is this glimmer of hope:

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Brandon Weeden's sprained throwing thumb does not require surgery, and he could return as early as Week 4.
The question is if he'll be returning as the starter. The Browns are tanking the season, and GM Mike Lombardi is a long-time admirer of Sunday's fill-in starter Brian Hoyer. Weeden clearly isn't a part of Lombardi's long-term plans, and could find himself on the bench if Hoyer is something close to competent against the Vikings. There's no guarantee he will be. If the Browns are serious about at least being competitive, they'll reinstall Weeden once he's healthy. Sep 19 - 2:32 PM

So we all know the Browns are tanking, but they can't openly admit that to the fans. They have to keep insisting they are doing everything they can to win. So here are the two ways this could play out for Gordon:

Hoyer shines: If Hoyer comes out and plays better than Weeden has the first two weeks, while demonstrating a decent ability to make a wide range of throws (IOW not Matt Flynn), then Weeden likely doesn't see the starting gig again unless Hoyer severely tanks down the road. In this scenario, the impact on Gordon is neutral to good, as he gets a QB that is as good or better than Weeden

Hoyer sucks: If Hoyer sucks balls, the Browns will be forced to play Weeden to prove that they aren't intentionally tanking this season. Sure, they could dream up a fake injury, or cut him, but that would only prove that they are in fact tanking. So they are not going to keep Weeden buried on the bench if Hoyer sucks monkey balls. And they know that Weeden sucks enough to still allow them to lose consistently, so they get to appear like they are trying to win, but still get great assurances that they will lose as planned. Effect on Gordon is net neutral.

So IMO Gordon either improves a little or stays the same.

ya and they have Eli Manning throwing the ball, Cruz, Nicks, Randle and Meyers. A lot more good, experienced players to pass it to and a QB that is >>>>>>>any trash the Browns have. The Browns have Gordon and Cameron..that's it so throwing to Gordon in double/triple coverage should be an adventure. They just took their biggest talent and threat out of the offense...I can't see how it won't negatively impact Gordon.

Believe me, I hope it doesn't as I own Gordon in 2 of 3 leagues but where I was very hopeful to get mid WR2 production...now I'm certainly not as optimistic.

That's exactly the point. The Browns are hoping to acquire their own version of Eli Manning. Until they do so, they'll continue to suck. I agree that removing Trent Richardson short-term may shift more defensive attention to Gordon Cameron. But long term, if they're able to acquire a true franchise QB plus adequate RB then that's a much bigger boon to the values of Gordon/Cameron than a Weeden/Richardson combo. And in the interim, Gordon and Cameron are going to be force fed because they'll have an even more mediocre ground game than they did with Richardson.

 

[Chaka]

I wouldn't be counting on him to save my fantasy season.

 

[Arwald]

Something to remember:

BB and Michael Lombardi worked together for a few years in Cleveland in the 90s. So IF Grodon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots.

 

[Biabreakable]

Mike Lombardi All other GM's.

 

[Shutout]

Something to remember:

BB and Michael Lombardi worked together for a few years in Cleveland in the 90s. So IF Grodon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots.

Can't see many teams taking a guy who is one false step from a year suspension and especially can't see the Patriots taking that risk considering the Hernandez situaiton. THat organization is leading the pack of teams that are under the microscope for taking questionable players at this point.

I don't think they move him unless there is some really cocky team out there that thinks they can be the ones to save him or have a great need at the WR position. Hmm, now that I said that, I guess the Cowboys ARE still in the NFL. maybe there is hope.

 

[Chaka]

Something to remember:

BB and Michael Lombardi worked together for a few years in Cleveland in the 90s. So IF Grodon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots.

No, if he is traded it will be to the team that makes the best offer.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Something to remember:

BB and Michael Lombardi worked together for a few years in Cleveland in the 90s. So IF Grodon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots.

No, if he is traded it will be to the team that makes the best offer.

You mean in the same way that no NFL team would have been willing to offer more than a 6th-rounder for Anquan Boldin?

NFL GM's are an old-boys club. Connections and personal influence matter more than free-market value.

 

[Chaka]

Something to remember:

BB and Michael Lombardi worked together for a few years in Cleveland in the 90s. So IF Grodon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots.

No, if he is traded it will be to the team that makes the best offer.

You mean in the same way that no NFL team would have been willing to offer more than a 6th-rounder for Anquan Boldin?

NFL GM's are an old-boys club. Connections and personal influence matter more than free-market value.

Of course it's a good old boys club but to say "If Gordon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots." is silly. As a Gordon owner I would love to see Cleveland go into full fire sale mode and send him to work with Tom Brady but I agree with those who are saying that his value is very low relative to his physical ability, which will likely preclude a trade.

And I think you could maybe, perhaps argue that the relationship between the Harbaugh brothers might just be a tad stronger than the relationship between two guys who haven't worked together since the '90s. I am not up to date on all the ins-and-outs of personal relationships among NFL GMs but I also think it is possible that Lombardi may have a few closer relationships than the one with Belichick.

 

[Banger]

I would love him to get traded to nearly any other team in the NFL.

 

[RBM]

Zero chance he gets traded

 

[LittlePhatty]

One percent chance he gets traded.

 

[tdhartis]

Zero chance he gets traded

One percent chance he gets traded.

Annnddd the actual probability of him being traded is 4%. Congratulations, LittlePhatty, you've won yourself a lightly used toaster and the crushed hopes and dreams of every Browns fan!!!

 

[ConnSKINS26]

What's this rumor posted in the Trent thread about SF moving a 3rd for him? Bogus?

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Something to remember:

BB and Michael Lombardi worked together for a few years in Cleveland in the 90s. So IF Grodon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots.

No, if he is traded it will be to the team that makes the best offer.

You mean in the same way that no NFL team would have been willing to offer more than a 6th-rounder for Anquan Boldin?

NFL GM's are an old-boys club. Connections and personal influence matter more than free-market value.

Of course it's a good old boys club but to say "If Gordon gets traded, it will be to the Patriots." is silly. As a Gordon owner I would love to see Cleveland go into full fire sale mode and send him to work with Tom Brady but I agree with those who are saying that his value is very low relative to his physical ability, which will likely preclude a trade.

You're right of course, and I wasn't trying to defend the absolute statement. But at the same time, it wouldn't surprise me if he ended up on the Pats (or more likely still, given Banner's prior working relationship, the Eagles) even if, theoretically, another NFL team might have been willing to offer marginally higher trade value.

Having said all that, I think the odds are pretty low he gets sent anywhere ... unless the Browns' QB play is so abysmal in the next few games that Gordon starts agitating publicly about it, and probably not even then.

 

[tdhartis]

What's this rumor posted in the Trent thread about SF moving a 3rd for him? Bogus?

Pure conjecture at the point. People are looking at the Browns trading T-Rich and the fact that people think the 49ers would benefit greatly from having him. I know the 49ers were one of the teams that attended his pro-day for the supplemental draft a couple years back. That being said, pure speculation with no backing as far as trading him to the 9ers specifically.

 

[Biabreakable]

Zero chance he gets traded

One percent chance he gets traded.

Annnddd the actual probability of him being traded is 4%. Congratulations, LittlePhatty, you've won yourself a lightly used toaster and the crushed hopes and dreams of every Browns fan!!!

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

If the real plot here is to score a QB keeping a primo target like Gordon would be pretty necessary for when he arrives.

 

[ratbast]

Folks' he doesn't have a contract like Richardson and won't bring crap for a pick.

 

[Drop]

I think that Weeden should be the starter. Not because he's the future. I think he sucks, but his arm talent is the best for developing the receivers that they have right now. The guys that they do have are young and relatively inexperienced so the team would be wise to keep feeding them downfield targets so they can compete and learn as much as possible.

 

[maf005]

Cleveland fielding offers for and open to trading WRs Josh Gordon and Greg Little. At least one team has made a quality offer for Gordon.

Shefter tweet

Hope it's Indy!! haha

 

[Arwald]

Whats his value if he goes to the Pats?

 

[SameSongNDance]

Yeah, I just read the same. Please trade Gordon, there's an 80% it'd be a huge upgrade.

 

[Clifford]

Through the freaking roof. WR 1 rest of the way.