I agree. He isn't very talented. He's clearly benefiting from being in a Martz system. But if he can at least get to the point where he can do well when the matchup is right that would be huge because his second-half schedule is loaded with great matchups.The sad thing is, O'Sullivan will put up good numbers this week and only delay the agony by creating the temporary illusion that he's actually a good QB.
At this point I'd rather see what Shaun Hill could do with those matchups. But I guess it's not going to happen unless O'Sullivan puts up a stinker against one of the upcoming cupcakes.I agree. He isn't very talented. He's clearly benefiting from being in a Martz system. But if he can at least get to the point where he can do well when the matchup is right that would be huge because his second-half schedule is loaded with great matchups.The sad thing is, O'Sullivan will put up good numbers this week and only delay the agony by creating the temporary illusion that he's actually a good QB.
I do. Have Hasselback as my backup to Cutler. Seeing Hass deal with his and other injuries I picked up JTO just in case. Now I'm picking up Hill just in case my just in case gets benched.If you need to start him this week, I'd go with him even though it's been an adventure for him lately.
Don't have the links handy, but I was reading an article from SF that was quoting the coaching staff (Nolan on his way out as well as Martz) stating how Hill COULDNT get the ball downfield like Sullivan can and that was a big reason Sullivan has the gig.dlptown said:local ticket holder. I like JTO, but he just doesn't have the arm to get the ball down the field like Hill does- albeit, Hill doesn't come close to being able to keep plays alive by scrambling like JTO though............ should prove interesting- I believe it will be Martz's call though.
I couldn't disagree more. He's getting killed out there with no protection. The Giants were in the backfield as soon as he dropped back on nearly every play. I think he'll play better this weekpackersfan said:I agree. He isn't very talented. He's clearly benefiting from being in a Martz system. But if he can at least get to the point where he can do well when the matchup is right that would be huge because his second-half schedule is loaded with great matchups.TommyGilmore said:The sad thing is, O'Sullivan will put up good numbers this week and only delay the agony by creating the temporary illusion that he's actually a good QB.
This is totally wrong. Hill has a weak arm and is a game manager. O'Sullivan will never be compared to Favre in arm strength, but he has show good ability to throw a deep ball. When he actually mke a decision before being blown up from behind... His issue is holding onto the ball for too long.dlptown said:local ticket holder. I like JTO, but he just doesn't have the arm to get the ball down the field like Hill does- albeit, Hill doesn't come close to being able to keep plays alive by scrambling like JTO though............ should prove interesting- I believe it will be Martz's call though.
That's part of the Martz equation, though. I think being in a Martz system has added anywhere from 50-75 yards a game to O'Sullivan's production. He is really an awful QB. His passes are often horribly inaccurate, he makes terrible decisions with the ball and he's a turnover magnet. I think Martz's system is helping him immensely. Put him in another system and he'd be a No. 3 QB. He just isn't very good.I couldn't disagree more. He's getting killed out there with no protection.packersfan said:I agree. He isn't very talented. He's clearly benefiting from being in a Martz system. But if he can at least get to the point where he can do well when the matchup is right that would be huge because his second-half schedule is loaded with great matchups.TommyGilmore said:The sad thing is, O'Sullivan will put up good numbers this week and only delay the agony by creating the temporary illusion that he's actually a good QB.
I thought Hill had a stronger arm, perhaps my mistake. However, on TV watching JTO is one thing, but when you are at the game and watching McNabb throw darts down the field, and then have JTO throw 40 yard wobblers that prevents them from stretching the field, it is another. I like him but it will prove interesting to see if he keeps the job. Regardless, the 49ers still need a QB of the future.This is totally wrong. Hill has a weak arm and is a game manager. O'Sullivan will never be compared to Favre in arm strength, but he has show good ability to throw a deep ball. When he actually mke a decision before being blown up from behind... His issue is holding onto the ball for too long.local ticket holder. I like JTO, but he just doesn't have the arm to get the ball down the field like Hill does- albeit, Hill doesn't come close to being able to keep plays alive by scrambling like JTO though............ should prove interesting- I believe it will be Martz's call though.