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Nice try...right back at you. The stats...1... Week 1 @SDG 26 carriesSure lets count the time he was in for one play and benched because his ankle was still sore.Even if you use 12 games he still averaged 80 yards per game. LT2 averaged 91.5 this season. 80 is a lot closer to the elite than the 65 an average back gets.Sorry to bring you back to reality, but these are not borderline elite fantasy numbers, and I'd argue they aren't even significantly better than average:Using decimal scoring:Uh, last time I checked 958 yards in 11 games is significantly better than average and border line elite. Nice try though.
0-5 points: 2 times
5-10 points: 5 times
10-15 points: 1 time
15-20 points: 2 times
20 + points: 2 times
That's 7 times out of 12 games he was under 10 points.
By the way, he's played in 12 games, not 11.
Nice try though.
In rushing YARDS.. I know Jordan is a stud.. I backed him all offseason due to his high opportunity to get receiving yards..han round 2. How many clubs did not clearly have a starting RB entering 2005?
I could agree with BGP here as well. I don't feel JJ is seriously challenged by Barber but I could see him slipping as far as the third round.
I think Jones will average 20 carries a game next year. If he manages to shake the Fragile Fred tag and Dallas can shore up the o-line look out.
Uh, L.Jordan is #6 in my league standard scoring. Did I miss something?
And the guy could have several more weeks of pure mediocrity and you still wouldn't hop off his jock. Heck, you give ME enough carries and I'll piece together some yardage. To say JJ is elite because he gets loads of carries is ridiculous. If those number of carries are split between him and Barber next year he'll be no better than average. No matter how he turns out in the future, he was a complete bust this year. Bigtime is the only 'maroon' around these parts.Well whoopdee doo doo. You aren't impressed. Big Surprise there!The guy could come out and score three TD's and have 250 yards and you'd still be singing the "he's just average," song. Sheesh,what a maroon.
I take it back, JJ is not an average back...Point being?This thread is discussing the fact that Julius Jones had stud stats near the end of year 1, and his year 2 was non-stud like. Your data does not address the issue that he was not a stud back this year, and thus is "Willie Green" like.
And your a moron. Who knows absolutely zero about football.You just come on this board to show your ignorance and piss off people.
15 carries for 35 yards...he is a BELOW AVERAGE back.
Nice call Bigtime. I'd say this qualifies for you being o\/\/ned.
Edit: I see you are banned, too bad you won't be back to enjoy eating crow.
No one is doubting that he had a great second half of his rookie season. So did Willie Green. JJ's production (like Willie Green's) in his second season fell off substantially. Fact is that he had one nice game out of 12 and averaged less than 4 yards per carry for the year. He also broke 100 once of twelve games with 8 of 12 games having over 20 carries. There is no doubt that he did not come close to expectations.
I would respond by saying that you are not being very "excellent" to me, now are you?And your a moron. Who knows absolutely zero about football.You just come on this board to show your ignorance and piss off people.
15 carries for 35 yards...he is a BELOW AVERAGE back.
Nice call Bigtime. I'd say this qualifies for you being o\/\/ned.
Edit: I see you are banned, too bad you won't be back to enjoy eating crow.
And i am not a JJ owner , i am just tired of morons like you.
lets put the 4 YPC part under a microscope...mike anderson averaged 4.2 YPC... a whopping 3 tenths of a yard better... DAL run blocking was nowhere remotely close to what broncos RBs enjoyed...
It's almost impossible to dig up the boxscored for individual games from that far back, so IMO a better assemment would be how each player fared on average per game his first two seasons:a) Emmitt Smith 78.1b) Tony Dorsett 77.7c) Julius Jones 86.2d) Herschel Walker 58.1Now let's look at how each did per game per season, his first 3 seasons . . .a) Emmitt Smith 58.6, 97.7, 107.1b) Tony Dorsett 71.9, 82.8, 79.1c) Julius Jones 102.4, 76.4, ???d) Herschel Walker 46.1, 74.3, 94.6Jones will do whatever Jones will do next year, but 76 yards a game is around 1200 rushing yards if he stays at his pace from this year. There were 12 other RB that had that many rushing yards this season, which while solid is not spectacular like many were expecting.Jones needs to stay on the field--which is something that may be presenting as a problem for him.
This was a pretty solid call.
good point, though i'm not sure how to interpret it...JJ seemingly not as big or strong as some of the workhorse RBs turner has ridden in the past, as HC or OC (emmit smith, stephen davis, ricky wiliams, even gore for that matter)... also, he may not have had the option of a goal line back that seems to be clearly better than the principal RB (if JJ still is... they seem to have complementary skills)...* in other words, in all those other stops, the best back was also the best goal line & short yardage back... that almost certainly not the case in DAL, so if turner does get the gig, we as fantasy prognosticators will be in somewhat uncharted waters in trying to figure out how his previous tendencies will align with seemingly new circumstances? come to think of it, at times during the 06 season, gore WAS pulled at the goal line for michael robinson, with mixed success as a i recall... not sure if that experiment was aborted later in the season, but i think so... with barber clearly being better than JJ for tough inside yards (if not necessarily overall, imo, but i realize that is a hotly disputed & contested issue in the SP), its very possible barber will continue to be a TD vulture in 07, & possibly beyond, depending on status of JJ with team in the future... JJ could of course do better in 07, & maybe even much better, if turner gives him more work in non-short yardage & goal line situations...
