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Julius Jones signs with Seattle (1 Viewer)

once the terms of the contract are disclosed, we will be in a much better position to make inferences about what his prospective role will be in '08 & in the future, & by implication, that of SA...

i'm guessing JJ will have signed for at least as much as duckett...

was it jones rookie year ('05?) that he had a nearly 200 yard, 3 TD game against the seahawks, one of the best games for a RB in cowboys history...

 
reportedly 4 years for approx $3 mill per year (espn)... haven't seen breakdown on guaranteed money...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3282689

Jones agrees to four-year deal as Seahawks bolster backfield

By John Clayton

ESPN.com

Updated: March 7, 2008, 9:31 PM ET

The Seahawks reached an agreement in principle Friday night with former Cowboys running back Julius Jones, the second running back move made by the team this week.

Jones agreed to a four-year deal worth around $3 million a year. The contract is similar to the five-year, $14 million contract reached with halfback T.J. Duckett earlier this week.

With Jones and Duckett on Seattle's roster entering the season, the question is whether or not Shaun Alexander will be around. The Seahawks decided to keep Alexander until they found replacements and now they have two potential replacements.

Jones is expected to compete for the starting job. Duckett was signed to be a short-yardage back as well as a backup fullback and power back. Jones is considered a more elusive back than Duckett.

Jones' final two choices were Seattle and Detroit, although he had interest from the Bears and Eagles for potential visits next week. He had also visited with the Tennessee Titans.

 
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Great landing spot for JJ. He should get major playing time next season.I doubt the Seahawks will use a first day pick on a RB now, although it remains a slight possibility. I didn't think Stewart or Mendenhall would be available at their pick anyway.
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Agreed. I'm surprised so many people here are so down on Jones.
exactly... it looks increasingly like SA will be cut, jones should be the favorite to start over duckett, there can't have been many better destinations for him to go...i suppose for those predisposed to view him negatively, they probably wouldn't like him wherever he landed... but there is no doubt that for him to have a chance to succeed, this was one of the very best places for him to land...
 
Great landing spot for JJ. He should get major playing time next season.I doubt the Seahawks will use a first day pick on a RB now, although it remains a slight possibility. I didn't think Stewart or Mendenhall would be available at their pick anyway.
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Agreed. I'm surprised so many people here are so down on Jones.
I don't see why anyone would be high on Jones. He's done nothing to be excited about. Hits the line, falls down. 2nd and 7. Once every twenty runs, he breaks one.
 
another article, from cowboys.com... not a lot more detail, but reminder that he also had a big game against seahawks in 2006 playoffs (about 120 yards on 20 carries)... holmgren didn't sound like he wanted to stand pat with what he had last season...

nobody is suggesting jones is a HoF caliber RB... but if he starts, he could present some value at a certain point...

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=8...260E5AEF58A5EC1

Seattle Bound

Seahawks Sign Free-Agent Julius Jones to 4-Year Deal

Mickey Spagnola -

DallasCowboys.com Columnist

March 7, 2008 8:34 PM

DALLAS - One week into free agency and the inevitable has taken place.

Julius Jones' four-year career with the Dallas Cowboys is over, the 26-year-old agreeing to a free-agent contract with the Seattle Seahawks, suddenly collectors of running backs.

Jones will become the second running back the Seahawks have signed this first week of free agency, having already inked a deal earlier in the week with T.J. Duckett. And of course, the Seahawks still have veteran Shaun Alexander under contract, along with backup and third-down back Maurice Morris. Jones agreed to a four-year deal worth $12 million, the $3 million a year not a silly deal but obviously more money than the Cowboys wanted to invest in re-signing the team's leading rusher in three of the past four seasons.

The Cowboys obviously were willing to let their 2004 second-round draft choice test free agency, deciding instead to allow their four-year starter become an unrestricted free agent while committing $2.56 million on a restricted free-agency tender to reserve the right of first refusal for his backup, Marion Barber, who got his first start in the team's playoff game this past season.

Jones began making the free-agency rounds this week, first visiting Detroit on Monday and then going to Tennessee, before spending the past two days in Seattle. According to Seahawks general manager Tim Ruskell, he was bound and determined to upgrade last year's anemic running attack.

If that was the case, then all Ruskell and the Seahawks coaches and scouts needed to do was pop in tapes of Jones' performances against Seattle during his career. As a rookie, Jones went for 198 yards on 30 carries and scored three touchdowns, including the last-second game winner in a 43-39 Cowboys victory at Qwest Field. Jones also scooted for a 53-yard run in that game.

Then in the 2006 playoff game in Seattle, Jones put up 122 yards on 22 carries, and had a long of 35 in the Cowboys' 21-20 first-round loss to the Seahawks.

There is some thought in Seattle the Seahawks might be ready to shed themselves of Alexander, who has been bothered by injuries the past couple of seasons. And Duckett is more of a pounder, at 6-feet, 254 pounds likely to be used mostly in short-yardage situations.

The Seahawks were not happy with their 3.8-yard per carry average this past season, their lowest since 1999. And while heading into free agency, head coach Mike Holmgren said upgrading the rushing attack was a priority.

"That is a major offseason fix," is what Holmgren told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. "Now what does that mean? You're talking about scheme; you're talking about players. The whole deal. You've got to be able to run the ball in this league better than we ran it."

Jones' signing of the four-year deal with Seattle leaves the Cowboys with one running back under contract (Alonzo Coleman) and the right-of-first-refusal to one more, Barber, who they would receive a first- and third-round draft choice for if they chose not to matched a signed restricted free-agency offer sheet. They chose not to tender 2007 third running back Tyson Thompson a restricted free-agency tender, allowing him to become a free agent.

 
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I don't see why anyone would be high on Jones. He's done nothing to be excited about. Hits the line, falls down. 2nd and 7. Once every twenty runs, he breaks one.
ok fair point, but it's better than looking at the line, deciding you don't want to be touched, and make a B-line for the sidelines (Shaun Alexander)
 
As a Hawks fan I am comfortable with the move. Holmgren obviously wants to pass as often as possible, and a JJ/Duckett combination will be more useful than whatever Alexander has left in the tank. Now, we can focus the draft on other needs, such as tight end.

 
a blurb from clare farnsworth (excellent butler name), who is i think beat writer for hawks for sporting news... in his opinion, this deal doesn't preclude using the first round pick on RB? edit/ADD - its true $3 mil per year not a lot of money, & JJ could be complement or change of pace to more physical RBs like mendenhall/stewart (though as EBF noted, they may not be there, so it could be moot point)...

one thing that could make JJ a good fit in seattle is they like to throw to RBs... i always thought jones was good on the screen pass & at his most dangerous in space, though underutilised in that role with cowboys...

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/footbal...ives/133787.asp

More details on Jones

Although the Seahawks are not confirming that an agreement has been reached with free-agent running back Julius Jones, a source close to the situation has confirmed it to the P-I.

Also, ESPN.com is reporting that Jones is expected to sign a four-year contract worth roughly $3 million a year.

In reality, all the details in the contract have not been finalized. But that doesn't alter the fact that Jones will become a member of the Seahawks, and create a logjam at the running back position.

The obvious thought is that this signals the release of Shaun Alexander, who is coming off two injury-interrupted seasons and will turn 31 in August. But that is not necessarily the case. Not yet anyway.

Jones has been told that he will compete for the starting job, and the size of his contract does not indicate that the Seahawks are giving him the starting job.

The club still needs a back that runs harder, and that player could come in the April draft – especially if either Oregon's Jonathan Stewart or Illinois' Rashard Mendenhall fall to them with the 25th pick in the first round.

That would create a situation where the Seahawks would have their back of the future, a counterpunch runner in Jones and a bigger back to use in short-yardage situations – T.J. Duckett, who was signed Wednesday.

Posted by Clare Farnsworth at March 7, 2008 6:50 p.m.

 
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Great landing spot for JJ. He should get major playing time next season.I doubt the Seahawks will use a first day pick on a RB now, although it remains a slight possibility. I didn't think Stewart or Mendenhall would be available at their pick anyway.
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Agreed. I'm surprised so many people here are so down on Jones.
I don't see why anyone would be high on Jones. He's done nothing to be excited about. Hits the line, falls down. 2nd and 7. Once every twenty runs, he breaks one.
I don't think anyone would argue he's an LT or a Westbrook, but he gets the job done. Last year was the least amount of carries he ever got, but in the three years prior he was right around 1000 yards and a handful of TDs each year. Not studly, but good enough for an RB3/2 and the upside of an RB1. As has already been mentioned, there's not many places he could have gone that would have put him in a better situation. Alexander is on his way out. Duckett is nothing special and will be taking 2nd seat to Jones. If they thought Morris was the answer they wouldn't have gone out and signed Duckett and Jones. Jones looks to be the workhorse for 2008 seeing, IMO, ~275 carries.Lots of upside, not a ton of risk IMO.
 
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Thats alot of RB's considering how everyone seems pretty sure they will be drafting Stewart as well. lol
They know Stewart will already be gone after Denver picks. :bag:
I doubt potential stewart owners would be that excited to even see him go to seattle now to be honest. Carry the ball on 1st and 2nd down. JJ or Mo come in on 3rd downs and then see Duckett come in for the short yardage/goal line. No thanks. :bag:
 
I love this news... and i love some of the reactions to it. Assuming the Hawks dont draft a RB and let go of SA, i could easily see some owners drastically overspending on a guy like JJ. I really hope this thread stays around for awhile.

 
TheLastDispatch said:
jwb said:
TheLastDispatch said:
Brutis said:
EBF said:
Great landing spot for JJ. He should get major playing time next season.I doubt the Seahawks will use a first day pick on a RB now, although it remains a slight possibility. I didn't think Stewart or Mendenhall would be available at their pick anyway.
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Agreed. I'm surprised so many people here are so down on Jones.
I don't see why anyone would be high on Jones. He's done nothing to be excited about. Hits the line, falls down. 2nd and 7. Once every twenty runs, he breaks one.
I don't think anyone would argue he's an LT or a Westbrook, but he gets the job done. Last year was the least amount of carries he ever got, but in the three years prior he was right around 1000 yards and a handful of TDs each year. Not studly, but good enough for an RB3/2 and the upside of an RB1. As has already been mentioned, there's not many places he could have gone that would have put him in a better situation. Alexander is on his way out. Duckett is nothing special and will be taking 2nd seat to Jones. If they thought Morris was the answer they wouldn't have gone out and signed Duckett and Jones. Jones looks to be the workhorse for 2008 seeing, IMO, ~275 carries.Lots of upside, not a ton of risk IMO.
He still has to do something to earn the job, though. I'm surprised some actually think he's automatically the RB1, even if SA is cut. He could just as easily be RB3 behind Duckett and Morris if he plays like he did the past couple of seasons in Dallas.
 
I like the move. I don't beleive they'll be passing as much this year. I can't imagine SA is still on the team when the season starts, unless they renegoitate his contract. Something that Ruskell said he wouldn't do. Which means he's probably planning on cutting him outright.

The reason I say they will be better against the run is because of the additions of OG Wahle, and Solari As Offensive Line Coach. I also don't beleive they are done with the Oline. Its obvious to me, that they plan on running the ball more next year. And since they can't afford SA, with all these running back additions. I'm assuming he's gone. I also like the idea of having 2-26 yo's in the back field. They should be near the primes of thier careers. I'm also assuming Mo mo is gone or degraded to no3. He had his chance and simply could not carry the load. That being said, I must admit, the offense did look better with him in the backfield then it did with sa last year. Hopefully they can get hackett back since no one has been breaking down the doors to sign him.

 
None of these guys are that good; you have three piles of turd and three piles of turd doesn't add up to a ham sandwich. Anyone counting on any of these guys is going to be in tough luck.

 
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pinda said:
wow, you gotta think this is a solid landing place for JJ, decent line and really no competition unless SA is still considered a RB
I agree with all of that except, "decent line", and "unless SA is still considered a RB". Unless SA gets cut, he is the starter as long as Holgram is the coach. IMO it's bad for JJ owners unless SA is cut.
The writing is on the wall, close to the same thing when Turner came to Atlanta, you just new there wasn't going to be room for Warrick Dunn.Now, I'm not saying Julius Jones is Turner, so I hope the Turner brigade on here can read past the comparison in names but what I'm saying is no way SA is a future starter for Seattle.JJ is getting 3 million a year to come carry the rock. So SA will either be gone or watching most of the time. I'll be interested in your opinion on how he does somewhere else, which is where he'll be probably after June 1.
 
JohnnyU said:
pinda said:
wow, you gotta think this is a solid landing place for JJ, decent line and really no competition unless SA is still considered a RB
I agree with all of that except, "decent line", and "unless SA is still considered a RB". Unless SA gets cut, he is the starter as long as Holgram is the coach. IMO it's bad for JJ owners unless SA is cut.
The writing is on the wall, close to the same thing when Turner came to Atlanta, you just new there wasn't going to be room for Warrick Dunn.Now, I'm not saying Julius Jones is Turner, so I hope the Turner brigade on here can read past the comparison in names but what I'm saying is no way SA is a future starter for Seattle.JJ is getting 3 million a year to come carry the rock. So SA will either be gone or watching most of the time. I'll be interested in your opinion on how he does somewhere else, which is where he'll be probably after June 1.
Logic dictates that if they were happy with Alexander, they wouldn't have signed both Duckett and Jones. Not that either is necessarily an improvement, but you don't bring in 2 new players at one position when you want to keep the same guy starting. IF either were a special teams ace, I could see it, but they aren't.
 
JJ is a decent fit because he runs the draw really well and a passing team like Seattle should allow for 3 or so chances per game to hit big with one. MM will probably stick but I see the depth chart looking like Jacksonville's.

SA or a Rookie = Fred Taylor

JJ = Mo Jones Drew

Duckett = Greg Jones

MM = Alvin Pearman/Labrandon Toefield

I'll bet these contracts are worded very positively for Seattle's cap beyond 2008 and the signings give them the options they didn't have last year when one injury (or ineffective streak) made them a run-and-shoot team. They also have options on draft day and will take the best available player, and I'll bet Ruskell is praying for a big DT since he doesn't play fantasy football.

 
So with JJ leaving Dallas does this make Tyson Thompson the back-up to MBIII?If not, do they get one through the draft?
Tyson Thompson was not tender a contract and is now a FA.
Any ideas on who the Cowboys use or are you thinking a draft day back-up RB?
I have not heard any names, outside of Warrick Dunn wanting to be a Cowboy, but my guess would be some boring veteran will get signed and a draft pick will figure in the mix behind Barber
 
Am I missing something? Didn'r Adam Schefter report that S.A had been released too?

That is all the talk at the Seahawk message board.

 
Found this article in the dallas news.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.htmlhttp://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.htmlhttp://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.htmlHow's that for a bold prediction? Believe it or not, I actually have some logic to back it up.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html I wouldn't go out on a limb like this if Julius Jones, who was just a guy around these parts, signed with any other team but the Seahawks. But he's professed his love for Qwest Field's "fast track" and performed like a Pro Bowler on it.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html The best game of Jones' career came in the in Seattle his rookie season. He rushed for 198 yards and three TDs on 30 carries. The photo to the right is of him breaking a Ken Hamlin tackle on the game-winning TD.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html Jones, who was injured when the Cowboys lost in Seattle in 2006, had 112 yards on 22 carries in his only other Qwest Field appearance. His 35-yard run put the Cowboys in position to win their first playoff game in a decade, but the screwed that up.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html So Jones averages 155 yards per game at Qwest Field. Multiple that by eight, and he's a 1,240-yard back without even leaving home.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html Jones averages 63.2 yards per game in the rest of the NFL stadiums. That would figure to about 505 yards on the road.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html Add it all up -- assuming he stays healthy, which has been an issue -- and Jones would have 1,745 yards. But I'll be conservative and set the over-under at 1,700.

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/03/julius-will-rush-for-about-1700-yards-in.html
 
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Attention: Annoying Cowboys Fans (That means all of you)

Could you pretty please stop hijacking every thread. The world doesn't revolve around the Cowboys.

 
Attention: Annoying Cowboys Fans (That means all of you)Could you pretty please stop hijacking every thread. The world doesn't revolve around the Cowboys.
This thread is "Julius Jones signs with Seattle". Seems to me it is just as much about the Cowboys as it is Seattle. Who elected you thread Police?
 
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POSTED 8:21 p.m. EST, March 8, 2008JONES WILL MAKE MORE THAN ALEXANDER IN 2008Here's another piece of evidence that potentially supports the notion that the arrival of running back Julius Jones in Seattle could be the end of the road for Shaun Alexander. Per Adam Schefter of NFL Network, Jones will make $5.5 million this year. And, per NFLPA records, Alexander's base salary is scheduled to be only (only?) $4.475 million in 2008.In all, Jones' deal is for four years and $16 million. In contrast, Alexander is scheduled to earn base salaries totaling $24 million over the next four seasons, making Jones the more affordable long-term option.With T.J. Duckett also getting $4 million in guaranteed money, it's more likely than not at this point that there will be a changing of the guard at tailback in Seattle.
 
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POSTED 8:21 p.m. EST, March 8, 2008JONES WILL MAKE MORE THAN ALEXANDER IN 2008Here's another piece of evidence that potentially supports the notion that the arrival of running back Julius Jones in Seattle could be the end of the road for Shaun Alexander. Per Adam Schefter of NFL Network, Jones will make $5.5 million this year. And, per NFLPA records, Alexander's base salary is scheduled to be only (only?) $4.475 million in 2008.In all, Jones' deal is for four years and $16 million. In contrast, Alexander is scheduled to earn base salaries totaling $24 million over the next four seasons, making Jones the more affordable long-term option.With T.J. Duckett also getting $4 million in guaranteed money, it's more likely than not at this point that there will be a changing of the guard at tailback in Seattle.
Starter money?
 
So where does everyone see SA going if he gets released, someone will take a chance on him?
I have a hunch that SA could end up in either CHICAGO, TAMPA BAY or DETROIT. They all have other guys to fall back on but have been very interested in FA's this year. I think HOU drafts one of the big 3 and CLE will draft Lewis' future replacement so I don't see SA going there.?
 
Clare Farnsworth, of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, reports Seattle Seahawks RB Julius Jones is expected to compete for the team's starting running back job next season.

Frank Hughes, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports the Seattle Seahawks are expected to draft a running back in the first round of the 2008 NFL Draft.

Frank Hughes, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports the Seattle Seahawks may release RB Shaun Alexander after Sunday, June 1, so they can save more than $4 million in salary cap space.

 
Maybe the Bears will pick up SA or Morris. Either would be a huge upgrade over Benson. :goodposting:
Agree, I'll take a one footed SA over a Benson any day of the week.In fact I now have the Cedric Benson rule; If you still are on the Cedric Benson Bandwagon then I disregard anything you have to say about football.
 
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a few articles from espn, the first call jones the best bargain free agent from this class so far (i might have gone with DJ hackett, if the panthers get a emerging, starting caliber veteran for under $2 mil per year)... it is a wee, tad bit optimistic (calling SEA's RBs with jones & mo-mo one of best in league seems like a big stretch... nobody will mistake them for MIN & JAX)... the second article reminded me of another potential reason to be up on jones, which i probably neglected or didn't attend to closely enough... incoming OL coach paul solari is a highly regarded positional technician with a chance to restore some of what the seahawks OL had last in '05... SEA really seemed to miss hutchinson past few seasons, & free agent acquisition of ex-panther OG wahle should help shore up that glaring hole...

BTW, i realize many are down on jones... but opportunity is very important in fantasy football, & if alexander is cut, there won't be any RB on the roster remotely as talented as marion barber, which bodes well for him to be used a lot more than in '07 (naturally, if they draft a RB in 1st round, all bets are off on jones prospects)... i don't think he will be top 10, but could have a shot to crack the top 15... probably won't get a lot of TDs with duckett almost certain to fill role of short yardage & goal line specialist, but could get more receptions than he has in past... this could be a good match, in that SA had appalingly bad hands & they may have wanted to throw more to RB but couldn't, also in that jones' hands were probably better than he got credit for, & he was arguably under used in that capacity in DAL...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3295209

"Who's going to be the most productive free agent? Seattle running back Julius Jones. He got brushed aside in Dallas because of Marion Barber. But Jones is walking into a good situation in Seattle. He'll take the place of Shaun Alexander and be paired with Maurice Morris in a backfield that will turn out to be one of the best in the league. Jones was a 1,000-yard rusher in 2006 and will return to that level. He also will be a major contributor as a receiver out of the backfield. Jones caught 35 passes in 2005, but the Cowboys forgot about his receiving skills the last two seasons, something the Seahawks won't."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=3301266

"Sometimes the most significant offseason acquisitions never play a snap for their new NFL teams.

The New York Giants found one when they hired Philadelphia Eagles linebackers coach Steve Spagnuolo to run their defense last season.

The Seattle Seahawks think they have found one this offseason in Mike Solari, hired to coach their offensive line.

The issue for Seattle isn't whether Solari was miscast during a forgettable two-year run as the Kansas City Chiefs' offensive coordinator. The Seahawks possess a young, talented defense and a Pro Bowl quarterback in his prime. They think improved offensive line play could help them make a Super Bowl push, and they rank Solari among the most accomplished line coaches in the league.

New O-line coach Mike Solari brings an impressive resume to Seattle.

The fit was natural after the Chiefs overhauled their offensive staff, firing Solari and three others. Solari had survived three coaching changes in Kansas City for a reason.

"It was a little bit of a coup when we were able to hire him," Seattle coach Mike Holmgren said.

The Seahawks have won four consecutive NFC West titles, but their ground game has faltered in each of the last two seasons.

The dropoff was steeper than Holmgren and team president Tim Ruskell were willing to tolerate. They fired line coach Bill Laveroni, who broke into the league with Seattle in 2002 and lacked Solari's diverse résumé. They signed running backs Julius Jones and T.J. Duckett in free agency, casting doubt on Shaun Alexander's future with the team.

Solari's addition could prove pivotal as the Seahawks continue to shed the I formation identity that worked well when Alexander ran behind a dominant line in 2005.

"If you have the great line and the great runner, you can line up in the 'I' and do that," Holmgren said. "We've done that. If you get hurt, or you are inexperienced, or you make substitutions and you cannot quite be as dominant, then it becomes problematic and you have to do it with a little bit of deception and formation and things like that."

Things like … coaching.

"My job is to make sure the offensive line plays at a championship level," Solari said.

The Chiefs twice sent three offensive linemen to the Pro Bowl in the same season during Solari's nine-year run coaching the position under Marty Schottenheimer, Gunther Cunningham and **** Vermeil.

But Solari's most powerful endorsement came from the man Holmgren ranked as the greatest offensive line coach in NFL history: the late Bobb McKittrick. The iconic San Francisco 49ers assistant won five Super Bowls during 21 seasons with the team before dying of cancer in 2000. Solari coached tight ends and served as assistant offensive line coach for the 49ers from 1992 to 1996.

"I went up to visit Bobb when he was sick, and he had worked closely with Mike on George Seifert's staff," Holmgren said. "He just said Mike's a special guy and he was really very impressed with Mike early on."

McKittrick armed smaller, quicker offensive linemen with cut-blocking tactics that opponents considered dangerous, even though the approach fell within the rules.

Holmgren and Solari met twice last week, but the Seahawks do not yet know precisely how their blocking schemes will change in 2008. With Solari, who broke into the league under Tom Landry in Dallas, they have options.

"One of the first things Coach Holmgren wanted was to go look at all the game film and evaluate the offensive linemen they've had here and the backup linemen, just to get a feel," Solari said. "I did that. The thing that stands out here is the athleticism of the tackles."

Right tackle Sean Locklear is back after signing a long-term contract. Left tackle Walter Jones, 34, remains a perennial Pro Bowl choice even though shoulder injuries have limited his strength at times. A recommitment to fundamentals might extend his career, according to scouts and coaches who have watched Jones closely in recent seasons. Linemen who get out of position wind up reaching, putting additional strain on their shoulders, the thinking goes.

"The key thing you do as a coach is make sure his technique is real sharp and help him along, give some reminders, maybe go back to some previous years when he was at the top of his game," Solari said. "And again, he is at the top. He is playing at a high level. You just keep working technique with him to stay sharp, and challenge him to keep improving and keep his game at the top." Jones might be the least of Solari's worries.

Center Chris Spencer, a first-round choice in 2005, has shown promise without realizing his full potential. The team added veteran guard Mike Wahle from Carolina after Rob Sims, a once-promising draft choice, seemed to regress last season. Ray Willis is another young, athletic prospect whose development has generated more offseason excitement than in-season results.

And while Chris Gray turns 38 in June, he still might be the best option at right guard -- unless Solari can turn Sims, Willis or another prospect into starting material.

"I haven't seen him on the field with us yet," Holmgren said of Solari, "but in talking to the players and in talking to the staff, they think he's special."

Mike Sando covers the NFL for ESPN.com.

 
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Jones didnt play particularly well running bhind Dallas' line. Unless I'm mistaken, Dallas has a better line than Seatlle. Plus I still think with so many RB in this draft, I expect one to show up in Seattle.

 
SEA potentially will have a pretty good left side of their OL with jones & wahle (leonard davis of the cowboys admittedly a monster RG, a much more natural position for him than when he played OT for the cards)...

if SA is dropped, jones has a chance to get more carries now that he is out of the shadow of barber...

seahawks draft around 1.25, i think... mcfadden & mendenhall aren't likely to drop that far, imo... we'll see about stewart, with his toe issue, but i expect him to be off the board at that point, too... they may also want to use that pick on OL, DL or TE... as i noted, i agree IF SEA uses a high pick on RB obviously jones prospects suffer... but the converse is true, as well...

 
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Jones didnt play particularly well running bhind Dallas' line. Unless I'm mistaken, Dallas has a better line than Seatlle. Plus I still think with so many RB in this draft, I expect one to show up in Seattle.
:lmao: Been saying this for months as well (as I knew he wouldn't be back in Dallas & some people would be giddy over his prospects). Just never bought it. If he couldn't run behind the Dallas line, I can't see him running effectively behind any line.The one thing he has going for him is he's seemingly always ran well @ Seattle. But that's like saying Jeff Blauser killed it @ Wrigley Field......until he became a Cub.
 
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Here's a hypothetical. Say the Hawks intend on cutting Alexander. Say they opt not to draft a top RB early in the draft, draft a developmental guy in the later rounds, or don't draft a RB at all. What would you guys say to the Hawks signing Kevin Jones to a low money contract?

 
I don't know what's so hard to understand about JJ going to the Hawks. They want him to start and plan to give him a chance this year IMO... you don't give money like that to a 3rd down back or someone competing for the starting job.

Whether you agree with it or not is by the by.

 
I don't know what's so hard to understand about JJ going to the Hawks. They want him to start and plan to give him a chance this year IMO... you don't give money like that to a 3rd down back or someone competing for the starting job.Whether you agree with it or not is by the by.
I think Kevin Jones to Seattle is pretty unlikely. I was more interested in a comparison talent wise between Julius and Kevin since I have both in a keeper league and am debating whether to keep them. I don't think Julius is immune to a RBBC though and the $ they doled out to him doesn't preclude other backs being considered. Had Duckett not signed in Seattle, I think a Julius/Kevin backfield could have worked nicely. It's still not crazy impossible; compare it to Detroit's 2007 backfield:Kevin JonesTatum BellDuckettKevin Jones - Julius JonesDuckettthe differences aren't all that striking
 
Here's a hypothetical. Say the Hawks intend on cutting Alexander. Say they opt not to draft a top RB early in the draft, draft a developmental guy in the later rounds, or don't draft a RB at all. What would you guys say to the Hawks signing Kevin Jones to a low money contract?
Wouldn't he be superfluous with Julius Jones on 1st & 2nd downs, Duckett in short-yardage, and Morris on 3rd downs?There's no way Kevin Jones is going to play better than Julius Jones in 2008 after tearing his ACL so late in 2007.
 
Here's a hypothetical. Say the Hawks intend on cutting Alexander. Say they opt not to draft a top RB early in the draft, draft a developmental guy in the later rounds, or don't draft a RB at all. What would you guys say to the Hawks signing Kevin Jones to a low money contract?
Wouldn't he be superfluous with Julius Jones on 1st & 2nd downs, Duckett in short-yardage, and Morris on 3rd downs?There's no way Kevin Jones is going to play better than Julius Jones in 2008 after tearing his ACL so late in 2007.
As is said, I was more interested in a comparison talent wise between Julius and Kevin since I have both in a keeper league and am debating whether to keep them. But not necessarily. Morris wasn't guaranteed to be back with the club in 2008 either. And the Hawks already found out they don't want him as a primary ball carrier.Had the Lions cut Kevin Jones earlier would the Hawks have been in the market? I imagine you could fit both Kevin and Julius into the salary structure for an approximation of what Alexander is due to make.
 
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Here's a hypothetical. Say the Hawks intend on cutting Alexander. Say they opt not to draft a top RB early in the draft, draft a developmental guy in the later rounds, or don't draft a RB at all. What would you guys say to the Hawks signing Kevin Jones to a low money contract?
Wouldn't he be superfluous with Julius Jones on 1st & 2nd downs, Duckett in short-yardage, and Morris on 3rd downs?There's no way Kevin Jones is going to play better than Julius Jones in 2008 after tearing his ACL so late in 2007.
As is said, I was more interested in a comparison talent wise between Julius and Kevin since I have both in a keeper league and am debating whether to keep them. But not necessarily. Morris wasn't guaranteed to be back with the club in 2008 either. And the Hawks already found out they don't want him as a primary ball carrier.Had the Lions cut Kevin Jones earlier would the Hawks have been in the market? I imagine you could fit both Kevin and Julius into the salary structure for an approximation of what Alexander is due to make.
They're already paying JJ more than Alexander for 2008. To answer your question (I think), no; I don't think they would be in the market for KJ.
 

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