bulger2holt
Footballguy
What do you expect from him ? Is he #2 RB worthy , or will Morris cut too much into his production ?
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Julius Jones the rest of the year (1 Viewer)
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If he gets the chance he should produce. With that said the Hawks get back both wides and are a pass first team. Morris when back should get 10-12 carries a game and not sure what will happen at goal line but prolly not JJ. He is for sure a RB2/3 and a solid flex play for now.
All in all I need a big game from him this week! lol
my 2 cents
All in all I need a big game from him this week! lol
my 2 cents
bulger2holt
Footballguy
Roddy White and Felix Jones or
Julius Jones and Bobby Engram ?
I have been offered a trade and it's killing me. Which combo would you rather have ?
Julius Jones and Bobby Engram ?
I have been offered a trade and it's killing me. Which combo would you rather have ?
therokie0070
Footballguy
dynasty trade keeprer or anyother league keep
ckalltheway
Footballguy
In one league I traded him and Calvin Johnson for Reggie Wayne. In another I'm a little thin at RB so I'm just riding out the storm with him. Will prolly be a good flex player the rest of the year at least.
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Enforcer
Footballguy
I vote Morris will get his touches (its an opinion I've held all year). I think Jones isn't going to look good facing some tougher run defenses in the next few weeks. Even if he does, Holmgren has been very consistent in saying these two are going to share the ball. We'll see. Perhaps Jones runs away from Morris and becomes a bell cow player, but I doubt it.
Posted on ffcollective.com
https://ffcollective.com/article?id=4225&am...20starting%20RB
Holmgren strongly suggests Julius Jones will remain as starting RB Posted: 12 days 4 hours 10 minutes ago | (blogs.thenewstribune.com) | This is: a Duplicate | Offensive
Seattle Seahawks head coach Mike Holmgren strongly indicated Monday that RB Julius Jones will remain the teams' starting running back after the Week 4 bye. Holmgren said he'd lean towards using Maurice Morris as a change of pace like he did with T.J. Duckett in Week 3. Duckett had 19 touches to Julius' 23.
Fantasy Take:
Holmgren's offense isn't necessarily geared towards a lot of carries but Jones could expect close to 20 carries a week while the passing offense gets on track. Julius Jones is a fantasy RB2 with Morris as a nice change of pace guy and T.J. Duckett the wildcard.
https://ffcollective.com/article?id=4225&am...20starting%20RB
Holmgren strongly suggests Julius Jones will remain as starting RB Posted: 12 days 4 hours 10 minutes ago | (blogs.thenewstribune.com) | This is: a Duplicate | Offensive
Seattle Seahawks head coach Mike Holmgren strongly indicated Monday that RB Julius Jones will remain the teams' starting running back after the Week 4 bye. Holmgren said he'd lean towards using Maurice Morris as a change of pace like he did with T.J. Duckett in Week 3. Duckett had 19 touches to Julius' 23.
Fantasy Take:
Holmgren's offense isn't necessarily geared towards a lot of carries but Jones could expect close to 20 carries a week while the passing offense gets on track. Julius Jones is a fantasy RB2 with Morris as a nice change of pace guy and T.J. Duckett the wildcard.
Enforcer
Footballguy
Do you have a link to the original source of this information? Somehow, I'm doubting that a staff member from that ff site did an interview with Holmgren. Was it from the TNT or Seattle PI?
Enforcer
Footballguy
I try to follow the team very closely. I don't recall hearing Holmgren use the word "strongly", and I would like to see where the report is coming from. Who's interpretation is it? What did he actually say that made someone interpret is as "strongly"? I'm not so much doubting the presser took place, but I would just like to read/hear it for myself.
found it: seahawks insider
Monday, September 22nd, 2008
Mike Holmgren's Monday news conferencePosted by Frank Hughes @ 03:17:46 pm The Seahawks players will hold their own practices on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday mornings, while the coaches will have most of the week off. The players will then get the weekend off before coming back to work next week. Mike Holmgren said he would have asked the players to stay in shape during the week anyway, but they chose to practice in part because they are not quite where they want to be record-wise.
When they do come back, Holmgren said he expects to have back Sean Locklear, Deion Branch, Bobby Engram, Mo Morris, Seneca Wallace and Koren Robinson.
Of Branch, he said it is kind of like check's in the mail; he is being told he will be back, but until he sees it he will be skeptical. He talked about the only thing that will get Branch comfortable with getting hit is getting hit. There is no substitute.
[More:]
Of Locklear, Holmgren said they are in a little bit of a conundrum. Now, with Pork Chop (who is OK) playing so well, they have three players for two spots, right guard and right tackle. He said they have not figured out whether to go (L to R) Willis and Locklear, Locklear and Willis or Pork Chop and Locklear. But he really likes what Willis has been doing at right tackle, and Chop has been good as well, certainly much better than Rob Sims.
They also are in a conundrum about the return of Mo Morris, and he said he will think on that one all week as well. Julius Jones has two consecutive 100-yard games and clearly is getting it going. Holmgren does not want to mess with that. He said in the fashion that he used Duckett to spell Jones yesterday, he said he likely will do the same thing with Morris, using him to spell Jones. But, he said, Duckett earned the right to have a role with the team as well, though that role may be short-yardage and goal line guy who is scoring and getting first downs. Still, he is noodling on that.Of the run game itself, Holmgren said he would like to stay balanced in the offense even though the running game has fared so well. He does not like to be one-sided like yesterday, when they had 46 runs and 20 passes. At the same time, he sensed the offensive linemen hunkering down and getting lathered up because they were having so much success and wanted to keep it going. "I could kind of hear the drums beating," is how he phrased it.
He confirmed that Courtney Taylor had been demoted. He said that he planned to use Taylor to spell both the Z and the X spots, but then Keary was having a good day and McMullen started off the game so well that Taylor kind of fell by the wayside. He said they still like him, and he is handling his role well, but they had to go with other guys who could be productive. Imagine what happens to Taylor once Branch and Engram and Robinson are back. He will go from starting flanker to the inactive list.
Holmgren said he has not lost faith in Michael Bumpus's punt returning despite his muff. He said it was a great punt and Bumpus misjudged it but he is a good receiver of punts overall.
About their position, Holmgren said he feels that they should have one more win. They let the SF game slip away and should be 2-1. Buffalo, they just got beat. But, he said, it is early. Things will start to sort themselves out. And he feels good about where they are because they are going to start getting healthy. "The season starts all over again for us," he said. Imagine, he said, that they were talking in their meeting today about who they will have to put on the inactive list. That is a luxury they didn't appreciate before.
Monday, September 22nd, 2008
Mike Holmgren's Monday news conferencePosted by Frank Hughes @ 03:17:46 pm The Seahawks players will hold their own practices on Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday mornings, while the coaches will have most of the week off. The players will then get the weekend off before coming back to work next week. Mike Holmgren said he would have asked the players to stay in shape during the week anyway, but they chose to practice in part because they are not quite where they want to be record-wise.
When they do come back, Holmgren said he expects to have back Sean Locklear, Deion Branch, Bobby Engram, Mo Morris, Seneca Wallace and Koren Robinson.
Of Branch, he said it is kind of like check's in the mail; he is being told he will be back, but until he sees it he will be skeptical. He talked about the only thing that will get Branch comfortable with getting hit is getting hit. There is no substitute.
[More:]
Of Locklear, Holmgren said they are in a little bit of a conundrum. Now, with Pork Chop (who is OK) playing so well, they have three players for two spots, right guard and right tackle. He said they have not figured out whether to go (L to R) Willis and Locklear, Locklear and Willis or Pork Chop and Locklear. But he really likes what Willis has been doing at right tackle, and Chop has been good as well, certainly much better than Rob Sims.
They also are in a conundrum about the return of Mo Morris, and he said he will think on that one all week as well. Julius Jones has two consecutive 100-yard games and clearly is getting it going. Holmgren does not want to mess with that. He said in the fashion that he used Duckett to spell Jones yesterday, he said he likely will do the same thing with Morris, using him to spell Jones. But, he said, Duckett earned the right to have a role with the team as well, though that role may be short-yardage and goal line guy who is scoring and getting first downs. Still, he is noodling on that.Of the run game itself, Holmgren said he would like to stay balanced in the offense even though the running game has fared so well. He does not like to be one-sided like yesterday, when they had 46 runs and 20 passes. At the same time, he sensed the offensive linemen hunkering down and getting lathered up because they were having so much success and wanted to keep it going. "I could kind of hear the drums beating," is how he phrased it.
He confirmed that Courtney Taylor had been demoted. He said that he planned to use Taylor to spell both the Z and the X spots, but then Keary was having a good day and McMullen started off the game so well that Taylor kind of fell by the wayside. He said they still like him, and he is handling his role well, but they had to go with other guys who could be productive. Imagine what happens to Taylor once Branch and Engram and Robinson are back. He will go from starting flanker to the inactive list.
Holmgren said he has not lost faith in Michael Bumpus's punt returning despite his muff. He said it was a great punt and Bumpus misjudged it but he is a good receiver of punts overall.
About their position, Holmgren said he feels that they should have one more win. They let the SF game slip away and should be 2-1. Buffalo, they just got beat. But, he said, it is early. Things will start to sort themselves out. And he feels good about where they are because they are going to start getting healthy. "The season starts all over again for us," he said. Imagine, he said, that they were talking in their meeting today about who they will have to put on the inactive list. That is a luxury they didn't appreciate before.
Enforcer
Footballguy
Thanks, Butter. I appreciate you finding that. I read it earlier in the week too. The "strongly suggests" was something that came from ffcollective, not from the Frank Hughes at the TNT.
To be clear where I'm coming from, Hughes at the TNT has a tendency to throw his own opinion into his reporting a lot. Its a common complaint from Seattle fans. I know mad sweeney that posts on the FBG boards isn't happy with it either. Holmgren said, "he will think on that one all week as well." I believe everything else there is Hughes stating his opinion. That's pretty far stretch to "strongly suggests" IMO.
Thanks again.
To be clear where I'm coming from, Hughes at the TNT has a tendency to throw his own opinion into his reporting a lot. Its a common complaint from Seattle fans. I know mad sweeney that posts on the FBG boards isn't happy with it either. Holmgren said, "he will think on that one all week as well." I believe everything else there is Hughes stating his opinion. That's pretty far stretch to "strongly suggests" IMO.
Thanks again.
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Enforcer
Footballguy
Agreed. I think it is too soon. Jones posted some great numbers, but I think it was against cupcake opponents. As a fan I don't care who gets all the carries as long as we have a productive back in the backfield. My guess is that Holmgren has them share carries, but that's my guess based on what I think he's thinking. Just an opinion.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Personally, I think Julius Jones is a classic case of a "Sell High" candidate after he rushed for 130 and 140 yards in weeks 2 and 3. Everything was perfect for him, he had all the receivers out, his main threat at RB is coming back and the opponents he went up against were bottom of the barrel types on defense. We see too much of sell high type attitudes on players that do well early in the season, but I believe this one is warranted. Obviously I could be wrong but I just don't see Julius sustaining this kind of production with everyone coming back and a tougher schedule on the horizon.
harryhood
Footballguy
i took the bait but i dont think i bought him high. Chris henry, matt jones and campbell landed JJ and driver. I am optimistic, especially using him as a flex play on most weeks. passing more might help him with some running room against they quality teams they have to face.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
wondered the same thing myself. JJ has looked good, and I'm just not sure MoMo is anything more than a change-of-pace type of Rb..maybe things split 60-40%, or perhaps 65-35% in favor of JJ? but Holmgren has never been a RBBC type of guy, he'll probably stick with JJ for 17-20 carries/gm..their schedule looks soft against spotty run defenses ( NE , Miami, Rams , Cards, 49'ers). They do play against some tough run defenses in the next few weeks - NYG, Eagles, Bucs, and a game against Dallas, a team allowing 103 rush yards/gm..other than these teams, Seattle should roll against weak run defenses!If Holmgren sticks to his guns, i.e., uses 1 featured RB, JJ should easily be a top 10 RB the remainder of the season..and with the big bucks they gave him in the off-season, I can't imagine anyone BUT JJ getting the bulk of the carries for the Seahawks..
bulger2holt
Footballguy
Roddy White and Felix Jones or
Julius Jones and Bobby Engram ?
Which combo would you rather have ?
Julius Jones and Bobby Engram ?
Which combo would you rather have ?
