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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
He's always been a freak, but he looks more involved than ever. I think this will be a career year. Historical averages probably won't repeat.
He's now the #1 IDP regardless of position, and likely to stay there for a LONG time.
Just piling on...
Peppers is in the top 20 in two of my IDP leagues, top 10 in one, and top 5 in another.
That's before his huge day today.
That's among ALL players, QB, RB, WR, TE included.
Julius Peppers is a top 50 overall player in IDP leagues. I would argue for him in the top 30 or 40 in sack heavy leagues. I would not hesitate to take him around #50 in initial IDP dynasty drafts. I did take him in the 70s and 60s in two of my IDP dynasty leagues last year in anticipation of Peppers really living up to his endless potential. It's happening.
Peppers is in the top 20 in two of my IDP leagues, top 10 in one, and top 5 in another.
That's before his huge day today.
That's among ALL players, QB, RB, WR, TE included.
Julius Peppers is a top 50 overall player in IDP leagues. I would argue for him in the top 30 or 40 in sack heavy leagues. I would not hesitate to take him around #50 in initial IDP dynasty drafts. I did take him in the 70s and 60s in two of my IDP dynasty leagues last year in anticipation of Peppers really living up to his endless potential. It's happening.
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cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
I don't know. Of course, if we had a 20/20 draft he'd be selected where you say, but it's a little late now. Whether or not he can carry over his dominance into future years will be the huge offseason question. The talent is certainly there, but it's been there in the past too.
Islander
Footballguy
So what's changed this year that explains why he is doing so much better than in 2004 and 2005? I don't think he was bothered by injuries in the past.
The other folks on the line probably help (Jenkins and Rucker now healthy, addition of Kemoeatu). Anything else? Did Peppers train harder this past offseason?
The other folks on the line probably help (Jenkins and Rucker now healthy, addition of Kemoeatu). Anything else? Did Peppers train harder this past offseason?
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
IIRC, he has always had a bit of a "not going 100% every play" thing about him going back to UNC. Maybe someone just got through to him this offseason? I don't think it's a contract/money thing. Certainly the DTs help, but there was a play yesterday where he was flying to the sideline to put a great hit on Lewis when it looked like Lewis was going to be tackled anyway. The DB missed the tackle and Peppers nailed him. He certainly isn't dogging it when he thinks the play may be over.
peppers could be getting stronger... he split time with basketball first two years at north carolina (came out junior year & devoted last season to football), so he wasn't doing the year round strength training NFL style... plus in coming out early he has probably been maturing physically & filling out...
another reason he could be having a career year is he is getting more adept at splitting double teams & expanding his repertoire of counter moves (though i haven't seen much film of him this season or broken him down for possible reasons)...
in a 16 team league with deep rosters but tweaked scoring to make IDPs closer to value of top offensive talent, he is top 10 for any position & i think close to top 5...
another reason he could be having a career year is he is getting more adept at splitting double teams & expanding his repertoire of counter moves (though i haven't seen much film of him this season or broken him down for possible reasons)...
in a 16 team league with deep rosters but tweaked scoring to make IDPs closer to value of top offensive talent, he is top 10 for any position & i think close to top 5...
TheCommish
Footballguy
Why is Julius Peppers having a great year? Look no further than the Panthers defensive tackles. Kris Jenkins (Pro Bowl player) is back after almost two full seasons lost due to injuries, and they signed Maake Kemoeatu from the Ravens in the off-season. It's tough to double-team Peppers every play when you've got serious beef lining up next to him.
Oh, and the Panthers cornerbacks are very, very good, too.
Oh, and the Panthers cornerbacks are very, very good, too.
cracKer
Shawn Culcasi
With these two in the middle, it's baffling that their run D has been so bad (19th this year after finishing #4 in 2005)
The Gator
Footballguy
They were even giving up more then 4 ypc to that slug J.Lewis Sunday. Morgan mean that much?
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Yes. Run defense starts up front, but it's dependent on the entire front seven. The Panthers are tied for third worst in the league with 5 runs of 20 or more yards allowed. They've also had a whole bunch of 10 plus yard runs. Those plays are killing their YPC against. But their YPC against is still only 4.0. Every other team with 4 runs of 20 or more are at least 4.5 YPC against.Right now, if the line isn't doesn't finish the play, nobody else is at the point of attack. Adam Seward, Chris Draft and Na'il Diggs are nowhere near as talented as Dan Morgan and Will Witherspoon. Add the injured Shaun Williams and replacement level Colin Branch into the mix too.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
They got caught off guard by Atlanta's zone read and Minnesota's play calling in the first two weeks of the season. Since then they have pretty much stuffed four straight opponents. Right now two games is a 1/3rd of total performance, and this will even out. Carolina top 10 against the run before all is said and done, maybe top 5 again.Btw, those of you who rely on nifty features like MFL's rankings against the run and pass need to consider the internals that create the rankings this early in the season. A bad performance, quirks in the schedule, a huge play and other factors skew the rankings until the sample (#of games) gets bigger. When is the sample big enough for the rankings to be reliable? I'm not comfortable relying on them until about week 12, fwiw.
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pretender
Footballguy
Thanks for the heads up on the MFL rankings Chaos - hadn't given that much thought to the big play aspects.They got caught off guard by Atlanta's zone read and Minnesota's play calling in the first two weeks of the season. Since then they have pretty much stuffed four straight opponents. Right now two games is a 1/3rd of total performance, and this will even out. Carolina top 10 against the run before all is said and done, maybe top 5 again.Btw, those of you who rely on nifty features like MFL's rankings against the run and pass need to consider the internals that create the rankings this early in the season. A bad performance, quirks in the schedule, a huge play and other factors skew the rankings until the sample (#of games) gets bigger. When is the sample big enough for the rankings to be reliable? I'm not comfortable relying on them until about week 12, fwiw.
