Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Then don't get paidF that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
God, I hate youThen don't get paidF that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Why should your employer pay you not to work just because the State has drafted you into involuntary servitude?F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Because it's your duty as an American citizen, Commie!Clear enough?Why should your employer pay you not to work just because the State has drafted you into involuntary servitude?F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Because the employer is part of the state and has gained quite a bit of benefits from the state (in the form of tax breaks) to do business there. The employer has a civic duty just as individuals do.Why should your employer pay you not to work just because the State has drafted you into involuntary servitude?F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
It's not a civic duty. If it were, the "citizen" would be free to decline.Because the employer is part of the state and has gained quite a bit of benefits from the state (in the form of tax breaks) to do business there. The employer has a civic duty just as individuals do.Why should your employer pay you not to work just because the State has drafted you into involuntary servitude?F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Do you understand what the word "duty" means? Is something you have to do, not something you can decide to do if you don't feel like it. It's part of living in a civilized society.It's not a civic duty. If it were, the "citizen" would be free to decline.Because the employer is part of the state and has gained quite a bit of benefits from the state (in the form of tax breaks) to do business there. The employer has a civic duty just as individuals do.Why should your employer pay you not to work just because the State has drafted you into involuntary servitude?F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
No, it's just another form of the State's force over the civilians in its particular tax jurisdiction.
It's a responsibility of a citizen. If businesses are looked at as citizens, as has been the view of the Supreme Court, then it is also their responsibility to do what is necessary of a citizen to fulfill that responsibility.It's not a civic duty. If it were, the "citizen" would be free to decline.
No, it's just another form of the State's force over the civilians in its particular tax jurisdiction.
We must obey laws or pay consequences. Good citizenship for adults also means serving on jury duty and paying taxes. Responsibilities: As an adult, being an informed citizen about our government and community is an important responsibility. Voting in elections is just one responsibility of all good citizens.
LOL at the "camping trip" excuse.Seriously...funny.Recently got a summons for grand jury. One week a month for 3 months. I don't think there's any interviewing, you pretty much are doing it. However I did have a camping trip scheduled for my first week, so wondering if they would defer it.
Anyone every done grand jury? This is county, not federal.
I've gotten an entire panel struck b/c one guy said this and the majority agreed with him. And it wasn't a joke or an excuse.Leviathan said:The worst excuse that I've ever heard during the jury selection process:Scoresman said:I've always wanted to serve on a jury for the
experience, but my company does not pay me so I try to get out of any summons however I can.
Closest I've gotten was the interview phase for alternate jury. They filled the last spot right before me. Funniest excuse I've seen was when
someone's grandma came in for her grandson because she said he had to go to work. The judge laughed out loud at that one.![]()
"All Mexicans should be deported." BAM! See ya later. No joke.
I haven't done it, but have read hundreds of transcripts. It's an easy gig.Recently got a summons for grand jury. One week a month for 3 months. I don't think there's any interviewing, you pretty much are doing it.
However I did have a camping trip scheduled for
my first week, so wondering if they would defer it.
Anyone every done grand jury? This is county, not federal.
You're pretty cool, BeavisIt's not a civic duty. If it were, the "citizen" would be free to decline.Because the employer is part of the state and has gained quite a bit of benefits from the state (in the form of tax breaks) to do business there. The employer has a civic duty just as individuals do.Why should your employer pay you not to work just because the State has drafted you into involuntary servitude?F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
No, it's just another form of the State's force over the civilians in its particular tax jurisdiction.
And you're a judge, terribleI've literally forgotten or blown off the last few - don't feel good about it.
Your fellow jurors?I've literally forgotten or blown off the last few - don't feel good about it.
I'm a NJ state employee and I wouldn't want my fate decided by 12 fellow government employees. There are some good ones but most of them, in my opinion, are idiots (especially the managers and political appointees).How about only Govt employees or volunteers?Pretty bad idea. Make it a law that employers have to pay wage/salary for people on jury duty (up to a limit, I suppose). If someone is self employed then the county/Feds pick it up.I've heard the idea of professional jurors being thrown around on occasion, but there are a whole lot of problems with that.LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, HIPPYWhile I agree with you in principal take this week and next weeks pay check, cash them and then burn the cash. Plenty of people out there get paid time off to do it, let them. Fat kid on a smartie if I was one of those. Since I'm not there isn't a set of opposing lawyers on the planet who would both want me sitting there.I've probably been called 7 or 8 times and never been on a jury. Never even been directly questioned during Gwar Dear.
Oh, and anybody that EVADES jury duty is a french crotch wash bag. We enjoy a crapton of rights as US citizens. Stepping up every couple of years to do your part is important as hell.
Hey, Shuke, long time. I just served as the foreman for the Campbell Co. Grand Jury last fall. You don't have to actually sit in on the trials, just listen to the evidence from the prosecution and vote on whether it should continue to trial or not.Recently got a summons for grand jury. One week a month for 3 months. I don't think there's any interviewing, you pretty much are doing it. However I did have a camping trip scheduled for my first week, so wondering if they would defer it.
Anyone every done grand jury? This is county, not federal.
I solve your problem and this is how you treat me?God, I hate youThen don't get paidF that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Hey buddy.Hey, Shuke, long time. I just served as the foreman for the Campbell Co. Grand Jury last fall. You don't have to actually sit in on the trials, just listen to the evidence from the prosecution and vote on whether it should continue to trial or not.Recently got a summons for grand jury. One week a month for 3 months. I don't think there's any interviewing, you pretty much are doing it. However I did have a camping trip scheduled for my first week, so wondering if they would defer it.
Anyone every done grand jury? This is county, not federal.
They're real good about letting you off for vacation. There's usually at least two extra jurors that can fill in. Just let them know ahead of time.
In ten weeks we heard nearly 300 cases - all felonies (hint - don't volunteer to be foreman. You have to swear in the cop for every case. It gets old fast).
At least 85-90% of the trials involved heroin abuse or theft to buy heroin. Cincinnati/Northern KY is ground zero for heroin in the Midwest. ("Come to the All-Star Game! Free dime bag with every ticket!").
All in all, it was fascinating look at our court system, the good guys and the bad guys. Very sad, funny and amazing at the same time. I'll follow up with some stories later.
Also used in high profile cases like Micheal Brown where the grand jury was the ones that decided not to charge the cop that shot him. That way its not the DA's fault he wasn't charged, it was the juries fault.Shuke, simple checks and balances. The grand jury is the citizens' gatekeeper to ensure the prosecutor's office isn't going overboard.
I'm many states, the state can go the route of a preliminary hearing where probable cause is determined by a judge instead of a grand jury.
This. We just review the cases. Sometimes additional evidence is turned up. We can also recommend dropping some, if not all, of the charges.Shuke, simple checks and balances. The grand jury is the citizens' gatekeeper to ensure the prosecutor's office isn't going overboard.
I'm many states, the state can go the route of a preliminary hearing where probable cause is determined by a judge instead of a grand jury.
I could not imagine being away from work for 10 weeks.Got a letter for the first time at the beginning of this year. It was for a semi-high profile murder case lasted around 10 weeks. Much of the evidence was circumstancial, but we felt it was strong enough to convict in the first degree. Dude actually looked at us and said we were wrong after the verdict was read. I wish I had dodged the entire thing now, I keep having to answer questions about the time I spend/ have spent on this message board.
I canI could not imagine being away from work for 10 weeks.Got a letter for the first time at the beginning of this year. It was for a semi-high profile murder case lasted around 10 weeks. Much of the evidence was circumstancial, but we felt it was strong enough to convict in the first degree. Dude actually looked at us and said we were wrong after the verdict was read. I wish I had dodged the entire thing now, I keep having to answer questions about the time I spend/ have spent on this message board.
I've always liked the idea of the pool coming from people on unemployment 1st and then go into regular population.F that! If you only get two weeks of vacation a year, and you get a summons to appear for two weeks, you're actually saying that it makes sense to use those vacation days for jury duty ? No way. I think employers should be required to provide full pay for time lost due to jury duty.Use vacationNot getting paid for the time lost would definitely change the way I feel about serving jury duty.
Classy bunch of folks.[SIZE=medium]These junkies buy their stuff in an area of Cincy called Over-the-Rhine. They want to get out of downtown so they cross the river to Kentucky and shoot up there. The cops pick them off constantly and easily, passed out in the parking lots of supermarkets and liquor stores or weaving down the road. Easy felony case.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]One couple pulled off at a gas station. The chick went inside and was so obviously stoned the cops were called. The one that made the arrest said “it wasn’t hard to tell who was with her; he was standing in the parking lot with the gas pump in his hand. He just couldn’t figure out which car to put it in.”[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Another guy passed out in the car while waiting to make a left turn at one of the most congested intersections in town. Fortunately, he had his foot on the brake. The cop walked up from behind, reached over and put the truck into park, and turned off the engine.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]We had multiple instances of women being pulled over (often with children in the car), being told that they were going to jail and would be searched, and asked if they had anything to declare. “No.” Sure enough, upon getting to jail, syringes were found to be inserted where they shouldn’t be.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]Some guy posted a disparaging Facebook comment about a woman. She marched over to his house, called him out on the lawn, and stabbed him. This stuff does actually happen.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]There’s a sleazy motel right across from the stadiums that the cops stake out all the time. Ran the plate on a pickup parked there, found a warrant outstanding, and went to the guy’s room. He answered the door, plastered, and they saw meth paraphernalia on the table (only meth case we had). They entered the room and then went back into the bathroom after hearing noises. Found two more guys in the shower together. The ‘Three Musketeers’ were total strangers that had met online somehow and decided to get together in the big city and have a little party.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]The cops spotted two known felons sneaking through a neighborhood with bolt cutters in hand. The stalked them to a warehouse that they had broken into. After being arrested, they were asked why they picked this warehouse. “We heard there was pot stored there”.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=medium]One bright spark bought a new suit at Goodwill in order to rob the bank right across the street from where he lived. Of course, after reviewing the video tape, it took about five minutes to run him down. They found him hiding in a garage behind some drywall panels. His new suit was stuffed into the ceiling tiles with the Goodwill receipt still in it.[/SIZE]
At least in my area they use driver's license registration now and not voter registration, bigger pool of jurors and also doesn't discourage voter registration.Strangely, I've never been called once despite living in the same small town for the last 16 years and pointlessly maintaining my voter registration the whole time.
Eh, as a criminal attorney I appreciate those who ##### out on jury duty. I wouldn't want somebody's fate in their hands.You people who #### out call yourselves Americans? Jfc, it's the least you could do. Notebook updated.
Plus, summers off.I canI could not imagine being away from work for 10 weeks.Got a letter for the first time at the beginning of this year. It was for a semi-high profile murder case lasted around 10 weeks. Much of the evidence was circumstancial, but we felt it was strong enough to convict in the first degree. Dude actually looked at us and said we were wrong after the verdict was read. I wish I had dodged the entire thing now, I keep having to answer questions about the time I spend/ have spent on this message board.