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Hoss_Cartwright said:
Don't let fantasy football ruin your Sunday. Keep your laptop closed until the end of your favorite team's game. You will find out your fantasy scores in due time and you can enjoy your favorite team on the field without the destractions. As much as I love fantasy football, and you guys know how much that is, I never let fantasy football get in the way of Colt games. Now if you don't have a favorite team and fantasy football is your life, then have at it ;)
I used to think like this, and wonder why fans are losing that special aspect of football by letting pretend teams get in the way of being a "real" fan. But as time has gone on, I can see both sides.The NFL is a business and your favorite team doesn't care about you except to the extent that you give them money. They're a business like Sears or Burger King. They have products they want you to buy and they charge as much as they think they can get away with. They hire employees and run their business as profitably as possible. Nothing wrong with that; that's capitalism. But I don't see people getting fanatical over Sears or talking about "loyalty" toward their favorite fast-food restaurant. A Packers fan would never wear a Vikings jersey unless they lost a bet. But one of their most famous players ever proudly wears it. Thurman Thomas had no problem going to the Dolphins. The Chargers couldn't get rid of Tomlinson fast enough. There's basically no loyalty in football EXCEPT when it comes to fans. They're expected to pay for tickets (and PSLs), clothing and whatever else the league can sell you. They don't give you anything. You can watch the games on TV as long as your fellow fans pony up the money to sit in the stadium (probably built with your tax dollars) and pay $10 for a beer. Now, the economics of the game are based on supply and demand so I'm not complaining about prices. But I am saying that fans should feel loyalty to themselves above any company. If you enjoy their product by playing fantasy football, have at it. You don't owe your hometown or favorite team anything. You don't have to support them if they don't put a competitive product on the field. You probably work hard enough to spend your Sundays any way you want. Yes, it's wonderful to hear stories of children growing up with a favorite team and passing that on to their children. But today, that team is as likely to abandon that child (or threaten to move to a new city if they don't get what they want) as the child is to move on to other entertainment. Yes, I love football. But I'm a realist. The NFL shows you NO loyalty. The teams show you NO loyalty. The players have NO loyalty to the teams, and vice-versa. It's a business that creates millionaires and billionaires. That's really what it is today. So if you want to spend your Sundays in the stadium or watching your hometown team's games with your family, I applaud you. Wear the gear you paid for and have a great time. But if you want to spend that time following a team YOU created to enjoy football the way YOU want... I think that's great, too. People don't just wake up and become fair-weather fans. There are fair-weather teams and fair-weather players, and over time they create fair-weather fans. You owe your family your loyalty, your attention and your emotion. You owe your favorite team whatever you choose to give them at that particular moment-- and nothing more.
 
To all those that say their real team is more important than their fantasy team, would you rather your fantasy team go undefeated or your NFL team?For me, its my fantasy team and not even close. Years of bragging rights.
NFL team and it's not even close. I would quit fantasy football altogether if I started caring about fantasy football this much. There are plenty of other forms of gambling out there.
speaking of gambling if you add weekly picks in the mix and it gets even more crazy.
 
Root, root root for the UNIFORM is something I did when I was kid to an extent, but as an aduly, I will never understand WHY ANYONE WOULD? I quit watching the NFL after they used scab players in the '87 strike, the most ridiculous thing a pro sports league could ever do. Plus, when Dan Fouts was out, the Chargers of Babe Laufenberg showed that rooting for the UNIFORM was just ridiculous.

IMO if one identifies with his favorite team because of their style of play or organizational excellence or a sense of community identy, I could understand. But for ME, MY players are so much more important.

 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Don't let fantasy football ruin your Sunday. Keep your laptop closed until the end of your favorite team's game. You will find out your fantasy scores in due time and you can enjoy your favorite team on the field without the destractions. As much as I love fantasy football, and you guys know how much that is, I never let fantasy football get in the way of Colt games. Now if you don't have a favorite team and fantasy football is your life, then have at it :)
I used to think like this, and wonder why fans are losing that special aspect of football by letting pretend teams get in the way of being a "real" fan. But as time has gone on, I can see both sides.The NFL is a business and your favorite team doesn't care about you except to the extent that you give them money. They're a business like Sears or Burger King. They have products they want you to buy and they charge as much as they think they can get away with. They hire employees and run their business as profitably as possible. Nothing wrong with that; that's capitalism. But I don't see people getting fanatical over Sears or talking about "loyalty" toward their favorite fast-food restaurant. A Packers fan would never wear a Vikings jersey unless they lost a bet. But one of their most famous players ever proudly wears it. Thurman Thomas had no problem going to the Dolphins. The Chargers couldn't get rid of Tomlinson fast enough. There's basically no loyalty in football EXCEPT when it comes to fans. They're expected to pay for tickets (and PSLs), clothing and whatever else the league can sell you. They don't give you anything. You can watch the games on TV as long as your fellow fans pony up the money to sit in the stadium (probably built with your tax dollars) and pay $10 for a beer. Now, the economics of the game are based on supply and demand so I'm not complaining about prices. But I am saying that fans should feel loyalty to themselves above any company. If you enjoy their product by playing fantasy football, have at it. You don't owe your hometown or favorite team anything. You don't have to support them if they don't put a competitive product on the field. You probably work hard enough to spend your Sundays any way you want. Yes, it's wonderful to hear stories of children growing up with a favorite team and passing that on to their children. But today, that team is as likely to abandon that child (or threaten to move to a new city if they don't get what they want) as the child is to move on to other entertainment. Yes, I love football. But I'm a realist. The NFL shows you NO loyalty. The teams show you NO loyalty. The players have NO loyalty to the teams, and vice-versa. It's a business that creates millionaires and billionaires. That's really what it is today. So if you want to spend your Sundays in the stadium or watching your hometown team's games with your family, I applaud you. Wear the gear you paid for and have a great time. But if you want to spend that time following a team YOU created to enjoy football the way YOU want... I think that's great, too. People don't just wake up and become fair-weather fans. There are fair-weather teams and fair-weather players, and over time they create fair-weather fans. You owe your family your loyalty, your attention and your emotion. You owe your favorite team whatever you choose to give them at that particular moment-- and nothing more.
:goodposting:
 
SSOG said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Don't let fantasy football ruin your Sunday. Keep your laptop closed until the end of your favorite team's game. You will find out your fantasy scores in due time and you can enjoy your favorite team on the field without the destractions. As much as I love fantasy football, and you guys know how much that is, I never let fantasy football get in the way of Colt games. Now if you don't have a favorite team and fantasy football is your life, then have at it :)
To be honest, this is why I'm glad I'm in so many fantasy football leagues now. Instead of getting more obsessed about FF, it's made me less obsessed. At this point, I go into a game knowing that I've got pretty much every player going for me in one league or another, and going against me in one league or another, so rather than trying to figure out all the permutations that result in me going undefeated this week ("Shonn Greene needs to get 56-65 yards and a TD, but then they need to go for two because I'm facing Folk, and ideally Sanchez throws a Pick-2 to the other team on the conversion attempt, because I'm starting the Ravens defense..."), I simply just said "screw it". My score is going to be exactly the same at the end of the day whether I'm watching the live scoring obsessively for 8 hours or whether I'm just sitting back, having a beer, and enjoying the game.At this point, I don't even look to see who my opponent is playing in any given week. I set my lineups and then close my fantasy football league websites. I'll hang out on FBGs or Twitter discussing the games or the players, sure, but I'm rarely spending a single moment worrying about my teams. Then, after the Sunday Night game wraps up, I'll take a look at my scores and see what I need for Monday.Personally, I don't miss the constant score watching. I'm never going back.
:goodposting: I could never keep track of my various FF games on the laptop while watching the games for similar reasons; plus, it'd just put me further over the edge. (Though I finally got Red Zone this year...for commercials during my main game...yeah, that's it. :bag: )
Does it make people less of a fan to watch their FF team all day, and sporadically watch their favorite team????? Do we need to watch every snap of every game of the team we root for??? It's a personal preference...THIS IS AMERICA...we do what makes us happy.
So this makes Hoss...a socialist? :)
 
Which team has a chance of winning money for you? Your favorite team or your fantasy team? Fantasy ALWAYS takes precendence over your favorite team. If i got somebody going against my Seahawks i'll root for my fantasy player all day long. I'll root for the Seahawks if they make the playoffs. It's all about the money, baby.

 
Am I mistaken ??? Isn't this a forum for DIEHARD FF players??????
yea, but we were fans first.i guess i just have a hard time understanding how people can be more into their fantasy team and the money they make, vs. the team they follow.im also a big college football fan, and in a lot of ways prefer college to the NFL. if you went to college ( i did) and went to the football games at said college (i did) you understand the fan thing comes first.now, i never lived in an NFL city, but became a Cowboys fan as a youngster. i stick with em through thick and thin. i like to keep up with them all through the year. i have a hard time following all the other teams in the offseason. and i dont like to crunch stats. so i guess i dont really get the guys that spend hours crunching stats for fantasy. seems boring to me. i use a few stats and my gut.
 
Am I mistaken ??? Isn't this a forum for DIEHARD FF players??????
To respond, the only reason that I am a DIEHARD FF player is because I grew up as a huge fan of Larry Csonka and the Dolphins. After I joined the Army in 1984 I returned to rooting for the hometown Bills and have lived and died ever since. I have had fantasy success and have had my ego inflated over the years but I would still love nothing more than to see the Bills win the Super Bowl.
 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Don't let fantasy football ruin your Sunday. Keep your laptop closed until the end of your favorite team's game. You will find out your fantasy scores in due time and you can enjoy your favorite team on the field without the destractions. As much as I love fantasy football, and you guys know how much that is, I never let fantasy football get in the way of Colt games. Now if you don't have a favorite team and fantasy football is your life, then have at it :)
I used to think like this, and wonder why fans are losing that special aspect of football by letting pretend teams get in the way of being a "real" fan. But as time has gone on, I can see both sides.The NFL is a business and your favorite team doesn't care about you except to the extent that you give them money. They're a business like Sears or Burger King. They have products they want you to buy and they charge as much as they think they can get away with. They hire employees and run their business as profitably as possible. Nothing wrong with that; that's capitalism. But I don't see people getting fanatical over Sears or talking about "loyalty" toward their favorite fast-food restaurant. A Packers fan would never wear a Vikings jersey unless they lost a bet. But one of their most famous players ever proudly wears it. Thurman Thomas had no problem going to the Dolphins. The Chargers couldn't get rid of Tomlinson fast enough. There's basically no loyalty in football EXCEPT when it comes to fans. They're expected to pay for tickets (and PSLs), clothing and whatever else the league can sell you. They don't give you anything. You can watch the games on TV as long as your fellow fans pony up the money to sit in the stadium (probably built with your tax dollars) and pay $10 for a beer. Now, the economics of the game are based on supply and demand so I'm not complaining about prices. But I am saying that fans should feel loyalty to themselves above any company. If you enjoy their product by playing fantasy football, have at it. You don't owe your hometown or favorite team anything. You don't have to support them if they don't put a competitive product on the field. You probably work hard enough to spend your Sundays any way you want. Yes, it's wonderful to hear stories of children growing up with a favorite team and passing that on to their children. But today, that team is as likely to abandon that child (or threaten to move to a new city if they don't get what they want) as the child is to move on to other entertainment. Yes, I love football. But I'm a realist. The NFL shows you NO loyalty. The teams show you NO loyalty. The players have NO loyalty to the teams, and vice-versa. It's a business that creates millionaires and billionaires. That's really what it is today. So if you want to spend your Sundays in the stadium or watching your hometown team's games with your family, I applaud you. Wear the gear you paid for and have a great time. But if you want to spend that time following a team YOU created to enjoy football the way YOU want... I think that's great, too. People don't just wake up and become fair-weather fans. There are fair-weather teams and fair-weather players, and over time they create fair-weather fans. You owe your family your loyalty, your attention and your emotion. You owe your favorite team whatever you choose to give them at that particular moment-- and nothing more.
Very :goodposting: I've always wondered why I feel like crap after the Vikings lose and I look up and all the Vikings' players are laughing with players on the other team. Fans take losses harder than the players - why should we care more than they do??
 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Don't let fantasy football ruin your Sunday. Keep your laptop closed until the end of your favorite team's game. You will find out your fantasy scores in due time and you can enjoy your favorite team on the field without the destractions. As much as I love fantasy football, and you guys know how much that is, I never let fantasy football get in the way of Colt games. Now if you don't have a favorite team and fantasy football is your life, then have at it :shrug:
I used to think like this, and wonder why fans are losing that special aspect of football by letting pretend teams get in the way of being a "real" fan. But as time has gone on, I can see both sides.The NFL is a business and your favorite team doesn't care about you except to the extent that you give them money. They're a business like Sears or Burger King. They have products they want you to buy and they charge as much as they think they can get away with. They hire employees and run their business as profitably as possible. Nothing wrong with that; that's capitalism. But I don't see people getting fanatical over Sears or talking about "loyalty" toward their favorite fast-food restaurant. A Packers fan would never wear a Vikings jersey unless they lost a bet. But one of their most famous players ever proudly wears it. Thurman Thomas had no problem going to the Dolphins. The Chargers couldn't get rid of Tomlinson fast enough. There's basically no loyalty in football EXCEPT when it comes to fans. They're expected to pay for tickets (and PSLs), clothing and whatever else the league can sell you. They don't give you anything. You can watch the games on TV as long as your fellow fans pony up the money to sit in the stadium (probably built with your tax dollars) and pay $10 for a beer. Now, the economics of the game are based on supply and demand so I'm not complaining about prices. But I am saying that fans should feel loyalty to themselves above any company. If you enjoy their product by playing fantasy football, have at it. You don't owe your hometown or favorite team anything. You don't have to support them if they don't put a competitive product on the field. You probably work hard enough to spend your Sundays any way you want. Yes, it's wonderful to hear stories of children growing up with a favorite team and passing that on to their children. But today, that team is as likely to abandon that child (or threaten to move to a new city if they don't get what they want) as the child is to move on to other entertainment. Yes, I love football. But I'm a realist. The NFL shows you NO loyalty. The teams show you NO loyalty. The players have NO loyalty to the teams, and vice-versa. It's a business that creates millionaires and billionaires. That's really what it is today. So if you want to spend your Sundays in the stadium or watching your hometown team's games with your family, I applaud you. Wear the gear you paid for and have a great time. But if you want to spend that time following a team YOU created to enjoy football the way YOU want... I think that's great, too. People don't just wake up and become fair-weather fans. There are fair-weather teams and fair-weather players, and over time they create fair-weather fans. You owe your family your loyalty, your attention and your emotion. You owe your favorite team whatever you choose to give them at that particular moment-- and nothing more.
GREAT POSTING, GREAT REALITY CHECK. Just my own position, NO ONE was a bigger Giants fan than me when I was a kid, listening to the games on the radio if my family couldnt be in front of a tv on sundays......not intentional just how it evolved, its a business, and like the poster said they don't care about us or even about the teams they play for as much as the fans do.. To them it's their job. AGAIN TO EACH HIS OWN!!!
 
I don't think being a big fan of an NFL team is anything to pat yourself on the back for.
No. But in the end it is a competition. Without a rooting interest, the venture would seem to have very little purpose for a non-competitor.
I enjoy watching the competition as an ends to itself.
Great. Do you yell, "Yea! One of the competitors won!" when it's over?
Yes. Yes, I do.
 
Neil Beaufort Zod said:
I used to think like this, and wonder why fans are losing that special aspect of football by letting pretend teams get in the way of being a "real" fan. But as time has gone on, I can see both sides.The NFL is a business and your favorite team doesn't care about you except to the extent that you give them money. They're a business like Sears or Burger King. They have products they want you to buy and they charge as much as they think they can get away with. They hire employees and run their business as profitably as possible. Nothing wrong with that; that's capitalism. But I don't see people getting fanatical over Sears or talking about "loyalty" toward their favorite fast-food restaurant. A Packers fan would never wear a Vikings jersey unless they lost a bet. But one of their most famous players ever proudly wears it. Thurman Thomas had no problem going to the Dolphins. The Chargers couldn't get rid of Tomlinson fast enough. There's basically no loyalty in football EXCEPT when it comes to fans. They're expected to pay for tickets (and PSLs), clothing and whatever else the league can sell you. They don't give you anything. You can watch the games on TV as long as your fellow fans pony up the money to sit in the stadium (probably built with your tax dollars) and pay $10 for a beer. Now, the economics of the game are based on supply and demand so I'm not complaining about prices. But I am saying that fans should feel loyalty to themselves above any company. If you enjoy their product by playing fantasy football, have at it. You don't owe your hometown or favorite team anything. You don't have to support them if they don't put a competitive product on the field. You probably work hard enough to spend your Sundays any way you want. Yes, it's wonderful to hear stories of children growing up with a favorite team and passing that on to their children. But today, that team is as likely to abandon that child (or threaten to move to a new city if they don't get what they want) as the child is to move on to other entertainment. Yes, I love football. But I'm a realist. The NFL shows you NO loyalty. The teams show you NO loyalty. The players have NO loyalty to the teams, and vice-versa. It's a business that creates millionaires and billionaires. That's really what it is today. So if you want to spend your Sundays in the stadium or watching your hometown team's games with your family, I applaud you. Wear the gear you paid for and have a great time. But if you want to spend that time following a team YOU created to enjoy football the way YOU want... I think that's great, too. People don't just wake up and become fair-weather fans. There are fair-weather teams and fair-weather players, and over time they create fair-weather fans. You owe your family your loyalty, your attention and your emotion. You owe your favorite team whatever you choose to give them at that particular moment-- and nothing more.
QFT :goodposting:
 

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