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So you couldn't keep the acronym Shick going, but I can see that you were tempted.They offered 3x pay per YrsofSvc. So 10 yrs = 30 weeks pay
So you couldn't keep the acronym Shick going, but I can see that you were tempted.They offered 3x pay per YrsofSvc. So 10 yrs = 30 weeks pay
Acronym Shick is the name of my M.O.D! cover band.So you couldn't keep the acronym Shick going, but I can see that you were tempted.
Good advice. My canned response is something along the lines of, “I’m not too worried about compensation (of course I am). If this is a good fit for both of us, I’m sure compensation will work out accordingly.”@Quint
Never tell them salary. Just tell them you are looking for an opportunity that fits best for all and a chance to learn and grow within an organization. You are willing to discuss salary at time of an offer.
not sure I like the phrase 'not too worried about compensation'. i'd just leave that part out.Good advice. My canned response is something along the lines of, “I’m not too worried about compensation (of course I am). If this is a good fit for both of us, I’m sure compensation will work out accordingly.”
What employee wouldn't take this offer in this job market? Sounds like a really good deal.They offered 3x pay per YrsofSvc. So 10 yrs = 30 weeks pay
That’s fair. Point being, you want it known that most important to you is finding the right position. First and foremost, you want to receive an offer. Typically the salary can be worked out reasonably from there. Never ever state you salary demands during the interview, as there’s nothing but negative that can come from it at that stage of the process (i.e. it’s higher than employer was planning, and they eliminate you as a candidate on the spot or its less than they were planning and as a result they offer you less than they otherwise may have).not sure I like the phrase 'not too worried about compensation'. i'd just leave that part out.
Hitting someone up that's connected to the available position isn't the same as sending a cold invite to a random employee then PMing them a 4 paragraph message without even knowing if they have anything to do with the position or not.I've been hit up on Linked In by someone regarding a role we're filling on my team. We were getting poor applicants via online listings. I relayed the individual's details to my director, and they might be getting hired.
Very tempting. Somebody like me who loves their job wouldn'tWhat employee wouldn't take this offer in this job market? Sounds like a really good deal.
or you know needs a jobVery tempting. Somebody like me who loves their job wouldn't
I dunno about quickly. You essentially have more than 6 months to find something to break even. Of course, that also means the new job pays the same or more.or you know needs a job
if i was ready to retire its one thing.
to lay myself off and hope to find another job with the same pay quickly is another
right - well it assumes ive been there 10 years and not say 5.I dunno about quickly. You essentially have more than 6 months to find something to break even. Of course, that also means the new job pays the same or more.
I agree that the best standard initial responses to the salary question should be:That’s fair. Point being, you want it known that most important to you is finding the right position. First and foremost, you want to receive an offer. Typically the salary can be worked out reasonably from there. Never ever state you salary demands during the interview, as there’s nothing but negative that can come from it at that stage of the process (i.e. it’s higher than employer was planning, and they eliminate you as a candidate on the spot or its less than they were planning and as a result they offer you less than they otherwise may have).
i agree with the stock answers above. if pressed further, you might try:Nemesis said:I agree that the best standard initial responses to the salary question should be:
Also, there are so many factors/layers to answering a question about salary demands that makes it nearly impossible to answer that question on the fly
- "want to find the right position"
- "looking for an opportunity that fits best for all"
- “looking for to be fairly compensated for the role & my experience that I bring to the table. “
Direct Compensation factors to consider: Base Salary, Annual Bonus, Profit-Sharing, Benefits, or Equity
& non-compensation factors to consider: PTO, Flexibility around work hours or working remotely
So, if pressed and you feel you need to give them an answer, do you give them just Base?
@Quint Good luck with it. Please let us know how it goes.i agree with the stock answers above. if pressed further, you might try:
- "I'd be happy to discuss salary in detail once an offer is made."
- "In my research about this position, I wasn't able to locate a definitive salary band in this area. If you can give me a number, I can let you know if we're in the same range."
- "The posting didn't list a salary range, and I'd prefer not to negotiate against myself. Can you give me a rough idea what this position pays?"
(but, with the last two, you allow them to pick a number an possibly low-ball you)
i'm heading into a 4th (hopefully final) interview in about three hours tonight. i expect a compensation package will be discussed, and possibly presented. if asked directly what my salary requirements are, i'm thinking about going with, "That's a challenging question to answer without knowing the entirety of the benefits offered (e.g. Do I need to pay for a portion of the healthcare package, or is the company taking care of the whole premium?). I don't feel a negotiation needs to be an adversarial circumstance, and want to approach this discussion with the goal of both of us being satisfied with the outcome. If you would be willing to give me a range of the salary band, I would be happy to give you a more specific number."
of course, every conversation is different and at the end of the day you may just have to cave and give them your number. if the hiring entity is reputable, they'll likely understand how this can be challenging for a potential candidate and make it as easy as possible.
Good luck, gbi agree with the stock answers above. if pressed further, you might try:
- "I'd be happy to discuss salary in detail once an offer is made."
- "In my research about this position, I wasn't able to locate a definitive salary band in this area. If you can give me a number, I can let you know if we're in the same range."
- "The posting didn't list a salary range, and I'd prefer not to negotiate against myself. Can you give me a rough idea what this position pays?"
(but, with the last two, you allow them to pick a number an possibly low-ball you)
i'm heading into a 4th (hopefully final) interview in about three hours tonight. i expect a compensation package will be discussed, and possibly presented. if asked directly what my salary requirements are, i'm thinking about going with, "That's a challenging question to answer without knowing the entirety of the benefits offered (e.g. Do I need to pay for a portion of the healthcare package, or is the company taking care of the whole premium?). I don't feel a negotiation needs to be an adversarial circumstance, and want to approach this discussion with the goal of both of us being satisfied with the outcome. If you would be willing to give me a range of the salary band, I would be happy to give you a more specific number."
of course, every conversation is different and at the end of the day you may just have to cave and give them your number. if the hiring entity is reputable, they'll likely understand how this can be challenging for a potential candidate and make it as easy as possible.
Congrats! I think you’ll have lots of FBGs take you up on thatupdate:
after five interviews i was presented with an offer, accepted the next day, and began the on-boarding process at an amazing winery on 2/4/20. haven't been happier, and excited to go into work, in many years. it's a great opportunity to take my existing skill-set and apply it in a leadership role.
feel free to hit me w/ a PM if you're planning to visit Sonoma Valley and are interested in a world-class tour/tasting experience.
best wishes for everyone who still out there looking....happy to offer advice or be a sounding-board.
drink well!
Maybe you can retrieve one of your old resumes from a floppy disc somewhere.Does anyone have a good resume template for engineering? I had a nice, no frills template that i liked but lost everything when my computer crashed and can't find one I like.