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We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans. It's not a matter of dodging it anymore. It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.
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that just made my stomach hurt. :(
 
Where is superman when you need him. Could just go down there and blow the wind in a clockwise motion and stop all this.

 
Any more news on the barometric pressure?
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Just heard it in the background, MRh but it had moved a tiny bit. But still something like the 9th lowest ever recorded in the Atlantic basin or something like that. :no: J
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I thought I heard it was the 4th lowest :shrug: .
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I think that was when it was 902.
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Yeah, i think that's right. They had something on Andrew I believe, or one of the other bad hurricanes and the lowest point for it was 909. 256 people dead, 1.56 billion dollars in damage. I think that was on the weather channel.
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Cost of Andrew was approx $31 billion, I believe.
 
This is some scary stuff...something like this has never happened before, no one knows what do expect.
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Not entirely true. There have been three documented cases of class 5 hurricanes to hit US shores - Andrew being the most recent - and sometime around the turn of the century the french quarter was flooded due to a hurricane.IIRC, class 5 hurricane Camille erased a few towns off of the Southern Texas map.
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Camille hit at the Louisiana/Mississippi state line.Edit: Read this and look at the before and after pictures of some structures at the time of Camille.

 
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Any more news on the barometric pressure?
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Just heard it in the background, MRh but it had moved a tiny bit. But still something like the 9th lowest ever recorded in the Atlantic basin or something like that. :no: J
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I thought I heard it was the 4th lowest :shrug: .
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I think that was when it was 902.
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Yeah, i think that's right. They had something on Andrew I believe, or one of the other bad hurricanes and the lowest point for it was 909. 256 people dead, 1.56 billion dollars in damage. I think that was on the weather channel.
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Cost of Andrew was approx $31 billion, I believe.
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Yeah, you're right. Not sure what that number was referring to then.
 
We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans. It's not a matter of dodging it anymore. It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.
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that just made my stomach hurt. :(
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I have a serious question and don't want to bring you down if the answer isn't good... You don't have to answer. Insurance on the restaurant...?
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enough to rebuild, but probably wouldn't be cost effective until there was a city of people living in it again with tourists coming to town. Methinks this will be an incredible hardship on many small business if its as bad as andrew or worse for real.
 
We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans. It's not a matter of dodging it anymore. It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.

If it's a heart shot, what's the value, in billions, on moderately sized American city?
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I don't think there's any frame of reference for this. The Port of New Orleans and the Oil/Gas infrastructure alone has got to be representative of tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars alone. Throw in all the historic artifacts - the town was integral to the Spanish, French and British inroads to the New World and was also a central area in the Confederacy (not trying to go down a political road with that last one - but no matter your thoughts on the matter a great deal of history from that period is at risk).

Add in a few more billion for the downtown area and likely hundreds of billions for the surrounding areas of Metaire, Lakeview, Kenner, St Bernard and Plaquemines. I'm emotionally numb as I consider the possibility of all the places and things that were integral to my entire childhood and young adult life being washed away.

 
Any more news on the barometric pressure?
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Just heard it in the background, MRh but it had moved a tiny bit. But still something like the 9th lowest ever recorded in the Atlantic basin or something like that. :no: J
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I thought I heard it was the 4th lowest :shrug: .
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I think that was when it was 902.
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Yeah, i think that's right. They had something on Andrew I believe, or one of the other bad hurricanes and the lowest point for it was 909. 256 people dead, 1.56 billion dollars in damage. I think that was on the weather channel.
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Cost of Andrew was approx $31 billion, I believe.
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Yeah, you're right. Not sure what that number was referring to then.
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Sorry, stuck in my head are all sorts of hurricane trivia that I've heard throughout the day. I don't know anyone in the area, but I've been keeping such close track of this (more than usual at least) that I already know I'll be making donations to the Red Cross. It won't be easy for me right now, but these people need it more than I do. :(
 
I'm sure you'll keep us abreast of the situation and let us know if you need anything. (Please do.)

Here's promising when you get through this, I come and run up a huge bill.
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Corrected...and count me in on that too.
 
My thoughts are with these people tonight. My prayer is that the light of morning will bring with it stories of hope amidst this calamity. I hope that the human spirit will shine during the dark night. Good Luck.

 
We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans. It's not a matter of dodging it anymore. It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.
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that just made my stomach hurt. :(
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I have a serious question and don't want to bring you down if the answer isn't good... You don't have to answer. Insurance on the restaurant...?
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enough to rebuild, but probably wouldn't be cost effective until there was a city of people living in it again with tourists coming to town. Methinks this will be an incredible hardship on many small business if its as bad as andrew or worse for real.
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I'm sure you'll keep us abreast of the situation and let us know if you need anything. (Please do.)Here's promising if you get through this, I come and run up a huge bill.
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If not, look for me to open something here in Pensacola, where hurricanes never hit. :loco:
 
My thoughts are with these people tonight. My prayer is that the light of morning will bring with it stories of hope amidst this calamity. I hope that the human spirit will shine during the dark night. Good Luck.
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Roger that.
 
Well, good night. Need to get some sleep. Looks like it will be pretty bad but I'm optimistic it will fall a little short of the doom and gloom scenarios going around. Don't think there will be much loss of life considering the good precautions that have been taken and hopefully most people will still have their homes to go back to.

 
how does the low pressure affect the hurricane?  I know that low pressure is bad, but why?
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The lower the pressure, the more it draws air into it, like a big vacuum. Air flows from high pressure to low pressure. The lower the pressure, the faster the air flows and the more volume it draws in. Earlier in the thread, maybe page 6, there are some good links.
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:thumbup: If the barometric pressure is very low or drops suddenly, the storm is heading your way.

 
When the flooding starts, has anyone commented on the snakes, alligators and rats that will be swimming around in the floodwater?
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Not to mention: Fire ants,sewerage,oil and gas, and CORPSES!We bury our dead above ground here folks because the water table is so high. Coffins will pop out of the tombs. Heard it my whole life from parents and such who went through Betsy in Lafitte
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Yeah, that'll suck. I heard from my grandparents from Texas that when there was a huge hurricane from where they grew up, people had to go to their roofs to escape the flooding and when the water got up that high, they were having to fight off water moccasins and other snakes who were also seeking higher ground. The brute force of the hurricane is bad enough, add flooding and all the other extenuating circumstances and I couldn't imagine being down there right now.
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Storm surge = biggest killer in every hurricane.(edit: I grew up in Miami).

 
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Well, good night. Need to get some sleep. Looks like it will be pretty bad but I'm optimistic it will fall a little short of the doom and gloom scenarios going around. Don't think there will be much loss of life considering the good precautions that have been taken and hopefully most people will still have their homes to go back to.
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:thumbup:
 
Any more news on the barometric pressure?
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Just heard it in the background, MRh but it had moved a tiny bit. But still something like the 9th lowest ever recorded in the Atlantic basin or something like that. :no: J
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I thought I heard it was the 4th lowest :shrug: .
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I think that was when it was 902.
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Yeah, i think that's right. They had something on Andrew I believe, or one of the other bad hurricanes and the lowest point for it was 909. 256 people dead, 1.56 billion dollars in damage. I think that was on the weather channel.
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Cost of Andrew was approx $31 billion, I believe.
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Andrew was the most expensive natural disaster in the U.S. - including flooding in the midwest - to that point. Of course, you are talking b aout coastal carolinas versus coastal So. La - I know tha there are valuable pieces oif real estate and businesses all over the place, but the Carolina coast is a very well developed, and much heavier populated, area.I expect the fallout from this natural disaster to be bigger, but not by a significant degree - though I expect more lives lost and more visible damage - such as whole neighborhoods being wiped out ala Camille - I think the actual amount of loss won't be significantly bigger.

Great idea committing billions in resources to a foreign war.

/hijackoff.

 
Any more news on the barometric pressure?
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Just heard it in the background, MRh but it had moved a tiny bit. But still something like the 9th lowest ever recorded in the Atlantic basin or something like that. :no: J
Click to expand...
I thought I heard it was the 4th lowest :shrug: .
Click to expand...
I think that was when it was 902.
Click to expand...
Yeah, i think that's right. They had something on Andrew I believe, or one of the other bad hurricanes and the lowest point for it was 909. 256 people dead, 1.56 billion dollars in damage. I think that was on the weather channel.
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Cost of Andrew was approx $31 billion, I believe.
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Andrew was the most expensive natural disaster in the U.S. - including flooding in the midwest - to that point. Of course, you are talking b aout coastal carolinas versus coastal So. La - I know tha there are valuable pieces oif real estate and businesses all over the place, but the Carolina coast is a very well developed, and much heavier populated, area.I expect the fallout from this natural disaster to be bigger, but not by a significant degree - though I expect more lives lost and more visible damage - such as whole neighborhoods being wiped out ala Camille - I think the actual amount of loss won't be significantly bigger.

Great idea committing billions in resources to a foreign war.

/hijackoff.
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:snicker:
 
We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans. It's not a matter of dodging it anymore. It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.

If it's a heart shot, what's the value, in billions, on moderately sized American city?
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Remember, the damage estimate won't be from the city only it will also contain the cost of replacing the oil rigs and pipelines in the gulf of mexico.I don't want to freak people out but even if you live in South Dakota this storm will affect you

 
We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans.  It's not a matter of dodging it anymore.  It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.

If it's a heart shot, what's the value, in billions, on moderately sized American city?
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I don't think there's any frame of reference for this. The Port of New Orleans and the Oil/Gas infrastructure alone has got to be representative of tens if not hundreds of billions of dollars alone. Throw in all the historic artifacts - the town was integral to the Spanish, French and British inroads to the New World and was also a central area in the Confederacy (not trying to go down a political road with that last one - but no matter your thoughts on the matter a great deal of history from that period is at risk).

Add in a few more billion for the downtown area and likely hundreds of billions for the surrounding areas of Metaire, Lakeview, Kenner, St Bernard and Plaquemines. I'm emotionally numb as I consider the possibility of all the places and things that were integral to my entire childhood and young adult life being washed away.
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yeah - if the city is DESTROYED. I don't think they are actually predicting NO to be wiped off the map.If that happens, it is completely unprecedented.

Since much of NO is below sea level, there is a goo chance of some very long term flooding - for like months - and maybe some permanent flooding in some areas - in other words, afterr the sea surge, the Gulf of Mexico will simply pick up a few thousand feet of shoreline, thus erasing some neighborhoods, but the entire city gone? I don't think that is likely to happen.

 
I'm not sure where the palm tree that Fox News keeps showing is (looks to be right on the coast), but it's blowing pretty hard now. They're saying she'll hit NO at sunrise.

 
We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans.  It's not a matter of dodging it anymore.  It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.

If it's a heart shot, what's the value, in billions, on moderately sized American city?
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Remember, the damage estimate won't be from the city only it will also contain the cost of replacing the oil rigs and pipelines in the gulf of mexico.I don't want to freak people out but even if you live in South Dakota this storm will affect you
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I saw that report - those oil rigs and pipelines destroyed will cost everyone 30 cents a gallon for a while.A class 5 hurricane wil affect weather patterns over a huge portion of the country.

 
We can assume this will be far more costly.

To put it in perspective, the bullet has been fired at New Orleans. It's not a matter of dodging it anymore. It's about whether it's going to hit the heart or just the chest.

If it's a heart shot, what's the value, in billions, on moderately sized American city?
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Remember, the damage estimate won't be from the city only it will also contain the cost of replacing the oil rigs and pipelines in the gulf of mexico.I don't want to freak people out but even if you live in South Dakota this storm will affect you
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I saw that report - those oil rigs and pipelines destroyed will cost everyone 30 cents a gallon for a while.A class 5 hurricane wil affect weather patterns over a huge portion of the country.
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Whoever ran that report ain't BS'ingHurricane Ivan did this

http://www.viridiandesign.org/images/Ensco64.jpg

 
I've never heard the word "hunker" so much in a single day. "Hunker." If you say it enough, it sounds really funny. "Hunker."

 
Meanwhile, in other weather, Phoenix had a record maximum minimum (warmest low temp) last night of 88, and tied a record high temp of 113 today.Forecast of 112/111 for Mon/Tues. :ugh:I'd almost consider taking my chances with the hurricane, instead of this heat.

 
Meanwhile, in other weather, Phoenix had a record maximum minimum (warmest low temp) last night of 88, and tied a record high temp of 113 today.

Forecast of 112/111 for Mon/Tues. :ugh:

I'd almost consider taking my chances with the hurricane, instead of this heat.
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At least it's a dry heat :P
 
Meanwhile, in other weather, Phoenix had a record maximum minimum (warmest low temp) last night of 88, and tied a record high temp of 113 today.

Forecast of 112/111 for Mon/Tues. :ugh:

I'd almost consider taking my chances with the hurricane, instead of this heat.
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Ill trade you houses effective immediately. :(
 
I've never heard the word "hunker" so much in a single day.  "Hunker."  If you say it enough, it sounds really funny.  "Hunker."
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or contraflow. i could ### rape this word im so sick of it.
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Sounds more like an arms - purchasing agreement than a traffic flow solution.
 
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