Katrina (2 Viewers)

[Gatorman]

the superdome is cracking? Holy' f'n s...It was designed to withstand 200 mph winds.

 

[beefcake]

was surfing and found this interesting.

Dear Yahoo!:Why isn't New Orleans under water since it's below sea level?JohannaSt. Petersburg, FloridaDear Johanna:Strange, but true: the Big Easy is, on average, eight feet below sea level. Tall levees to the north and south keep the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain from pouring into the center of the city. And an intricate system of pumping stations and canals keep the land dry, even after heavy rainfall.Without this drainage system, much of the city would be engulfed in water. New Orleans occupies swampland created by millions of years' worth of silt deposits from the Mississippi River. As a result, the ground is wet and spongy, and prone to flooding from rainfall and hurricanes.Ironically, all the pumps, canals, and levees that work so hard to keep New Orleans above water are actually causing the city to sink at a rate of three feet per century. Some scientists predict that by the year 2100, the "City That Care Forgot" will be under water. Does New Orleans have a deep-sea Mardi Gras in its future? Scuba gear or not, it's interesting to ponder.

 

[HarryManback]

This is some scary stuff...something like this has never happened before, no one knows what do expect.

Not entirely true. There have been three documented cases of class 5 hurricanes to hit US shores - Andrew being the most recent - and sometime around the turn of the century the french quarter was flooded due to a hurricane.IIRC, class 5 hurricane Camille erased a few towns off of the Southern Texas map.

Not with winds like this, 175mph.

??I am pretty sure Camille had winds like that before it hit shore.

And we have no idea what the wids were like in the Class 5 hurricane that ripped through the south in the early 1900s.

Yes, this is a huge powerful storm, but things "like this" (you said "nothing like this") have certainly happened before both to the US and to this part of the country.

A hurricane of this magnitude (at least of yesterday) had never hit North America since hurricanes were recorded.

 

[scottybo]

Power and cable going in and out now with gusts in the mid 60's. Snowing leaves.

 

[Gatorman]

This is some scary stuff...something like this has never happened before, no one knows what do expect.

Not entirely true. There have been three documented cases of class 5 hurricanes to hit US shores - Andrew being the most recent - and sometime around the turn of the century the french quarter was flooded due to a hurricane.IIRC, class 5 hurricane Camille erased a few towns off of the Southern Texas map.

Not with winds like this, 175mph.

??I am pretty sure Camille had winds like that before it hit shore.

And we have no idea what the wids were like in the Class 5 hurricane that ripped through the south in the early 1900s.

Yes, this is a huge powerful storm, but things "like this" (you said "nothing like this") have certainly happened before both to the US and to this part of the country.

A hurricane of this magnitude (at least of yesterday) had never hit North America since hurricanes were recorded.

Incorrect. Andrew was considered a cat 4 when it hit, but information gathered after the fact made it a probable cat 5.

 

[Senor Schmutzig]

was surfing and found this interesting.

Dear Yahoo!:

Why isn't New Orleans under water since it's below sea level?

Johanna

St. Petersburg, Florida

Dear Johanna:

Strange, but true: the Big Easy is, on average, eight feet below sea level. Tall levees to the north and south keep the Mississippi River and Lake Pontchartrain from pouring into the center of the city. And an intricate system of pumping stations and canals keep the land dry, even after heavy rainfall.

Without this drainage system, much of the city would be engulfed in water. New Orleans occupies swampland created by millions of years' worth of silt deposits from the Mississippi River. As a result, the ground is wet and spongy, and prone to flooding from rainfall and hurricanes.

Ironically, all the pumps, canals, and levees that work so hard to keep New Orleans above water are actually causing the city to sink at a rate of three feet per century. Some scientists predict that by the year 2100, the "City That Care Forgot" will be under water. Does New Orleans have a deep-sea Mardi Gras in its future? Scuba gear or not, it's interesting to ponder.

Apparently a lot of the pumps used to get the water out of downtown New Orleans actually pump it back into Lake Ponchartrain. That wouldn't help things much in this case as the lake is probably going to be overflowing itself.

 

[HarryManback]

This is some scary stuff...something like this has never happened before, no one knows what do expect.

Not entirely true. There have been three documented cases of class 5 hurricanes to hit US shores - Andrew being the most recent - and sometime around the turn of the century the french quarter was flooded due to a hurricane.IIRC, class 5 hurricane Camille erased a few towns off of the Southern Texas map.

Not with winds like this, 175mph.

??I am pretty sure Camille had winds like that before it hit shore.

And we have no idea what the wids were like in the Class 5 hurricane that ripped through the south in the early 1900s.

Yes, this is a huge powerful storm, but things "like this" (you said "nothing like this") have certainly happened before both to the US and to this part of the country.

A hurricane of this magnitude (at least of yesterday) had never hit North America since hurricanes were recorded.

Incorrect. Andrew was considered a cat 4 when it hit, but information gathered after the fact made it a probable cat 5.

Nope, you're most wrong.A hurricane with the winds, and pressure that Katrina had while in the gulf had never been recorded before.

If it had hit at the predicted power that it had, it would have been something no one had seen since we started to measure and record hurricanes...I don't know why this is so hard for you all to grasp.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Just got word that my uncle managed to get out and is in Tennessee right now praying that his house is still there when he gets to go back.God Bless everyone stuck in the middle of this.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

This may have been asked before, and if so, I apologize, but I can't search the whole topic string...Is there a credible news source that has straming audio/video over the internet?Thanks, CCC

 

[HarryManback]

Did anyone else hear that it moved east and will not hit NO head on?

 

[Otis]

Updates?

 

[culdeus]

Did anyone else hear that it moved east and will not hit NO head on?

You must have just woken up. Have a cup of coffee.

 

[Early_10]

Did anyone else hear that it moved east and will not hit NO head on?

CNN still reporting "coastal Mississippi may bare brunt of storm".

 

[JaxBill]

Hurricane Katrina Intermediate Advisory Number 26b Statement as of 8:00 am CDT on August 29, 2005 ...Large and extremely dangerous category four Hurricane Katrinapounding southeastern Louisiana and southern Mississippi...A Hurricane Warning is in effect for the north central Gulf Coastfrom Morgan City Louisiana eastward to the Alabama/Floridaborder...including the city of New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain.A Tropical Storm Warning and a Hurricane Watch are in effect fromeast of the Alabama/Florida border to Destin Florida...and fromwest of Morgan City to Intracoastal City Louisiana. A Tropical Storm Warning is also in effect from Destin Floridaeastward to Indian Pass Florida...and from Intracoastal CityLouisiana westward to Cameron Louisiana. For storm information specific to your area...including possibleinland watches and warnings...please monitor products issuedby your local weather office. At 8 am CDT...1300z...the center of Hurricane Katrina was locatednear latitude 29.7 north... longitude 89.6 west or about 40 milessoutheast of New Orleans Louisiana and about 65 miles southwest ofBiloxi Mississippi. Katrina is moving toward the north near 15 mph...and a gradual turnto the north-northeast at a slightly faster forward speed isexpected over the next 24 hours. On this track...the center will bepassing just to the east of New Orleans during the next few hourswith the worst of the weather for that city occurring over the nextcouple of hours. The center is expected to move into southernMississippi later today.Maximum sustained winds are near 135 mph...with higher gusts.Katrina is an extremely dangerous category four hurricane on theSaffir-Simpson scale. Weakening is forecast as the circulationinteracts with land today. Winds affecting the upper floors ofhigh-rise buildings will be significantly stronger than those nearground level. Katrina is a very large hurricane. Hurricane force winds extendoutward up to 125 miles from the center...and tropical storm forcewinds extend outward up to 230 miles. Pascagoula Mississippi civildefense reported a wind gust to 118 mph...and Gulfport Mississippiemergency operations center reported sustained winds of 94 mph witha gust to 100 mph. Belle Chasse Louisiana...just southeast of NewOrleans...recently reported sustained winds of 76 mph with a gustto 88 mph. A little earlier...Belle Chase reported a gust to 105mph. New Orleans Lakefront Airport recently reported sustainedwinds of 69 mph with a gust to 86 mph.The minimum central pressure recently reported by an Air ForceReserve unit reconnaissance aircraft was 923 mb...27.26 inches. Coastal storm surge flooding of 18 to 22 feet above normal tidelevels...along with large and dangerous battering waves...can beexpected near and to the east of the center. Storm surge floodingof 10 to 15 feet...near the tops of the levees...is possible in thegreater New Orleans area. Significant storm surge flooding willoccur elsewhere along the central and northeastern Gulf of Mexicocoast.Rainfall totals of 5 to 10 inches...with isolated maximum amounts of15 inches...are possible along the path of Katrina across the GulfCoast and the Tennessee Valley. Rainfall totals of 4 to 8 inchesare possible across the Ohio Valley into the eastern Great Lakesregion Tuesday and Wednesday. The tornado threat ahead of Katrina continues to increase andscattered tornadoes will be possible today over southeasternLouisiana... southern Mississippi...southern Alabama...and overthe Florida Panhandle. Repeating the 8 am CDT position...29.7 N... 89.6 W. Movementtoward...north near 15 mph. Maximum sustained winds...135 mph. Minimum central pressure... 923 mb. The next advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane Center at10 am CDT. Forecaster Pasch

 

[Tremendous Upside]

What do you think is being tracked more intently, Katrina here in the FFA or Mike Anderson's new ADP in the Shark Pool?TIA, won't answer yours...

 

[Zapato]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

This may have been asked before, and if so, I apologize, but I can't search the whole topic string...Is there a credible news source that has straming audio/video over the internet?

Thanks, CCC

Bump...can anyone help me out?

 

[pantagrapher]

.. A LEVEE BREACH OCCURRED ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL CANAL AT TENNESSE STREET. 3 TO 8 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED DUE TO THE BREACH...LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO ARABI AND 9TH WARD OF NEW ORLEANS.

 

[whoknew]

This may have been asked before, and if so, I apologize, but I can't search the whole topic string...Is there a credible news source that has straming audio/video over the internet?

Thanks, CCC

Bump...can anyone help me out?

MSNBC has a local Louisiana newscast going. If you go to their webpage, there is a live video stream.

 

[HarryManback]

.. A LEVEE BREACH OCCURRED ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL CANAL AT TENNESSE STREET. 3 TO 8 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED DUE TO THE BREACH...LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO ARABI AND 9TH WARD OF NEW ORLEANS.

That's no good.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

I'm hearing that the roof to the Superdome is leaking..

 

[ColtsFreak]

This is some scary stuff...something like this has never happened before, no one knows what do expect.

Not entirely true. There have been three documented cases of class 5 hurricanes to hit US shores - Andrew being the most recent - and sometime around the turn of the century the french quarter was flooded due to a hurricane.IIRC, class 5 hurricane Camille erased a few towns off of the Southern Texas map.

Not with winds like this, 175mph.

??I am pretty sure Camille had winds like that before it hit shore.

And we have no idea what the wids were like in the Class 5 hurricane that ripped through the south in the early 1900s.

Yes, this is a huge powerful storm, but things "like this" (you said "nothing like this") have certainly happened before both to the US and to this part of the country.

A hurricane of this magnitude (at least of yesterday) had never hit North America since hurricanes were recorded.

Incorrect. Andrew was considered a cat 4 when it hit, but information gathered after the fact made it a probable cat 5.

I stayed in a Miami University dorm building during Andrew and that #### was real scary. GB all who will encounter Katrina! Good Luck!

 

[ClownCausedChaos]

This may have been asked before, and if so, I apologize, but I can't search the whole topic string...Is there a credible news source that has straming audio/video over the internet?

Thanks, CCC

Bump...can anyone help me out?

MSNBC has a local Louisiana newscast going. If you go to their webpage, there is a live video stream.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

 

[pantagrapher]

This may have been asked before, and if so, I apologize, but I can't search the whole topic string...Is there a credible news source that has straming audio/video over the internet?

Thanks, CCC

Bump...can anyone help me out?

Here's a low-bandwidth audio feed from WWL TV news NO: LINK

 

[Otis]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

His joke was not in poor taste in any way, it was a silly joke to lighten the mood.

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage, but to compare this to the catastrophic, violent loss of human life in 9/11 is absurd.

 

[660]

People are stupid

 

[Yankee23Fan]

The MSNBC link has unconfirmed reports that the Industrial Canal levees have been breached and the first floor of Jefferson Hospital is flooded.Unconfirmed.

 

[JaxBill]

Shepherd Smith reported that Emrgency Management says that power to the New Orleans pumps are out. An apartment building has collapsed in Harvey, LA trapping 10 people.

 

[Ignoramus]

This may have been asked before, and if so, I apologize, but I can't search the whole topic string...Is there a credible news source that has straming audio/video over the internet?

Thanks, CCC

Bump...can anyone help me out?

Check the first post; WWL and WDSU both have live feeds.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Beau-Rivage (sp?) Casino has flooding on the 2nd floor.

 

[Ignoramus]

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage...

I take it you've been through a lot of hurricanes.

 

[Brock Middlebrook]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

His joke was not in poor taste in any way, it was a silly joke to lighten the mood.

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage, but to compare this to the catastrophic, violent loss of human life in 9/11 is absurd.

I'm not so sure that it won't be like 9/11

 

[pantagrapher]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

His joke was not in poor taste in any way, it was a silly joke to lighten the mood.

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage, but to compare this to the catastrophic, violent loss of human life in 9/11 is absurd.

I'm not so sure that it won't be like 9/11

OK, let's move on.

 

[Drifter]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

His joke was not in poor taste in any way, it was a silly joke to lighten the mood.

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage, but to compare this to the catastrophic, violent loss of human life in 9/11 is absurd.

I'm not so sure that it won't be like 9/11

Let's not bury the deal while they're still breathing, okay? This thread has been full of people who seem to be in advance mourning, and personally, I think the defeatism more offensive than those who have come in here with attempts at humor.

 

[B-Deep]

I'm not so sure that it won't be like 9/11

OK, I think we should stop this argument before it starts. No one is going to come out of an argument between which is worse feeling better about having argued either side.

 

[saintsfan]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

His joke was not in poor taste in any way, it was a silly joke to lighten the mood.

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage, but to compare this to the catastrophic, violent loss of human life in 9/11 is absurd.

You're right. 9-11 killed 3,000 Had this storm hit to the west of New Orleans, 30,000 people probably would have died.Apparently, you know nothing about the power of hurricanes.

Think before you open your trap.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

His joke was not in poor taste in any way, it was a silly joke to lighten the mood.

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage, but to compare this to the catastrophic, violent loss of human life in 9/11 is absurd.

I'm not so sure that it won't be like 9/11

In the horror of the day....In the coming together the next few days....

In the political grandstanding, overreaction, and eventual fall out after that....

It is not the time nor the place but I can imagine that "home land security prepareness" will be questioned, I can see whether the gulf is always 91 degrees (i.e. global warming) questioned, I've already seen a senator complain about the neglect at the Federal Level for the area's infrastructure questioned, etc., etc.

I think this will be just like 9/11...

 

[Tiger Fan]

The MSNBC link has unconfirmed reports that the Industrial Canal levees have been breached and the first floor of Jefferson Hospital is flooded.

Unconfirmed.

This is confirmed.

 

[culdeus]

Sigh.....

 

[Tiger Fan]

100 windows at the Hyatt hotel blown out. That hotel is conneccted to the dome

 

[B-Deep]

In the horror of the day....

In the coming together the next few days....

In the political grandstanding, overreaction, and eventual fall out after that....

It is not the time nor the place but I can imagine that "home land security prepareness" will be questioned, I can see whether the gulf is always 91 degrees (i.e. global warming) questioned, I've already seen a senator complain about the neglect at the Federal Level for the area's infrastructure questioned, etc., etc.

I think this will be just like 9/11...

AGAIN, can we just not argue the potential of this to be as bad as 9/11. Seriously, will any of you be sitting here in a few days and thinking, "well at least I was right, 9/11 WAS worse, or Katrina WAS as bad".This is a bad road to go down, it will only cause pain to people who know people affected by 9/11 or in danger from Katrina. It's just a stupid stupid argument. Who cares which is or could be worse.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

In the horror of the day....

In the coming together the next few days....

In the political grandstanding, overreaction, and eventual fall out after that....

It is not the time nor the place but I can imagine that "home land security prepareness" will be questioned, I can see whether the gulf is always 91 degrees (i.e. global warming) questioned, I've already seen a senator complain about the neglect at the Federal Level for the area's infrastructure questioned, etc., etc.

I think this will be just like 9/11...

AGAIN, can we just not argue the potential of this to be as bad as 9/11. Seriously, will any of you be sitting here in a few days and thinking, "well at least I was right, 9/11 WAS worse, or Katrina WAS as bad".This is a bad road to go down, it will only cause pain to people who know people affected by 9/11 or in danger from Katrina. It's just a stupid stupid argument. Who cares which is or could be worse.

I know/knew people affected by 9/11. I know people in danger from Katrina. No one else needs to die or even lose property today for my point to be true. I'm not arguing body counts or propertly damage. I'm not arguing at all. I'm merely saying that the feel of today is way too similar to feel of September 11, 2001 and I fear that will be true for days to come.I won't speak for what others mean....

 

[pantagrapher]

Please cut the Katrina/9-11 BS.

 

[Ignoramus]

From WWL:

.. A LEVEE BREACH OCCURRED ALONG THE INDUSTRIAL CANAL AT TENNESSE STREET. 3 TO 8 FEET OF WATER IS EXPECTED DUE TO THE BREACH...LOCATIONS IN THE WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO ARABI AND 9TH WARD OF NEW ORLEANS.St. Bernard Parish spokesman Larry Ingargiola says the parish's two shelters at Chalmette High and St. Bernard High are suffering major damage. He said Chalmette High shelter is losing its roof, and St. Bernard High has plenty of broken windows and glass. He estimates 300-plus refugees at the two sites.

The 9th ward was expected to be hardest hit. Hopefully those people got to a safe place.

 

[Otis]

I don't understand why we don't just ask people in China where the landfall will be considering they're what, 10 hours ahead of us?

Is this supposed to be funny?

Heck, I gave it a try. Mood is so heavy and serious in this thread.

I thought it was funny. Lighten up Francis.It's a storm. Nobody died yet and nobody may die at all. There is far more crude joking on this board about bad things that have already happened.

By this same logic, it would've still been OK to joke about 9/11 as the first plane was headed towards the WTC. Good thinking here.

His joke was not in poor taste in any way, it was a silly joke to lighten the mood.

This is a rain storm and it is really unfortunate that people are probably going to sustain substantial property damage, but to compare this to the catastrophic, violent loss of human life in 9/11 is absurd.

I'm not so sure that it won't be like 9/11

Let's not bury the deal while they're still breathing, okay? This thread has been full of people who seem to be in advance mourning, and personally, I think the defeatism more offensive than those who have come in here with attempts at humor.

I couldn't possibly agree more.

I do not want to go near a debate of which catastrophe is worse, Katrina vs. 9/11, but I will say I have far, far less sympathy for the guy who lives on the coast in NO and had several days to prepare and an option to leave town but chose to stay and drown than I do for the guy busting his tail in a high rise on a normal workday when a 747 comes in through the office 10 floors down and he has to figure out whether he is better of jumping or baking.

Of course it would be a horrible, horrible tragedy if the roof of the Superdome were to collapse and kill thousands of people who did not have the means to leave, but to some posters here that kind of tragedy seems like it's almost a foregone conclusion.

I think several other people jumped on board to compare this to 9/11 above but, really, I only have it in me to respond to such hysteria once.

 

[Otis]

Had this storm hit to the west of New Orleans, 30,000 people probably would have died.

Apparently, you know nothing about the power of hurricanes.

Think before you open your trap.

Serious question - can someone explain this to me? Are there more people in that region? Could they not have been evacuated for some reason? Serious question.

 

[Ignoramus]

From WDSU's blog:

8:46 a.m.: Superdome Damage Considered Minor

The National Guard told reporters at a news conference in Baton Rouge, La., that the holes in the roof at the Superdome are only minor. A representative of the National Guard blamed the strong winds for ripping the fabric, but he said there were no structural problems with the roof, and evacuees in the affected areas were moved. -- WDSU.com Web Staff

 

[whoknew]

Had this storm hit to the west of New Orleans, 30,000 people probably would have died.

Apparently, you know nothing about the power of hurricanes.

Think before you open your trap.

Serious question - can someone explain this to me? Are there more people in that region? Could they not have been evacuated for some reason? Serious question.

I think he meant that the area that gets the worst of a hurricane is the area just north east of the eye. So, if the hurricane had come west of New Orleans, that city would have gotten the absolute worst of it.

 

[culdeus]

Had this storm hit to the west of New Orleans, 30,000 people probably would have died.

Apparently, you know nothing about the power of hurricanes.

Think before you open your trap.

Serious question - can someone explain this to me? Are there more people in that region? Could they not have been evacuated for some reason? Serious question.

The guy had been watching too much FoxNews.

 

[mojorizin's wife's dog]

Please cut the Katrina/9-11 BS.

WOW....we agree on something....