Katrina (1 Viewer)

[Capella]

Sorry... had to.

Southern Miss game cancelled too.

I think there was another... Tulane?

Actually Southern miss was playing Tulane

Kicking off the all-new Conference USA season!!!!

 

[jplvr]

Red, I thought that was it, but I also thought I remembered some Texas team being involved too. Maybe that was the LSU game.

 

[jplvr]

Sorry... had to.

Southern Miss game cancelled too.

I think there was another... Tulane?

Actually Southern miss was playing Tulane

Kicking off the all-new Conference USA season!!!!

...and Louisville should've been a BCS team.

 

[2112]

not hard info to find...

06:21 PM CDT on Tuesday, August 30, 2005

Associated Press

LSU postponed its scheduled football game Saturday night against North Texas because of Hurricane Katrina.

"The events of yesterday and this morning have made it clear that this is not the time to play a football game," LSU athletic director Skip Bertman said Tuesday. "This is a dire situation that rivals any in the history of our state, and our priorities are on participating in recovery efforts."

LSU has canceled classes until Sept. 6.

"The scope of this tragedy is becoming more evident as time passes, and LSU's focus is on assisting in the recovery effort of our state," LSU chancellor Sean O'Keefe said. "LSU is a primary evacuation site and we are not going to conduct any activities that could deter from our mission of assisting in the recovery mission."

LSU's Carl Maddox Field House is being used a Special Needs Shelter, the Pete Maravich Assembly Center has been designated as a triage unit for medical emergencies, and the Bernie Moore Track will be used as a helicopter landing site.

The school hoped to announce the date for the postponed game in the next two to three days. LSU is ranked fifth in the country.

Also, the Tulane-Southern Mississippi game scheduled for Sunday in Hattiesburg, Miss., has been moved to the Saturday after Thanksgiving.

"We have been in contact with the administrators for both universities and we all agree that the focus of our attention should be on the continued safety of the student-athletes, coaches and the lives of those affected by this storm," Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky said. "Playing a football game is not our highest priority at this time."

Tulane's football and women's soccer teams fled New Orleans on Sunday, making a 9 1/2-hour bus ride to Jackson, Miss. They've been practicing at Jackson State.

In other changes, Nicholls State's game at Utah State on Saturday has been canceled. Nicholls State is located in Thibodaux, La.

Also, Southern University's game Saturday at McNeese State in Lake Charles, La., has been canceled,

and Jacksonville's game Thursday night at Hammond -- between New Orleans and Baton Rouge -- has been postponed indefinitely.

 

[jplvr]

I'm lazy, but thanks.

 

[shining path]

I've said it from the start that we needed to shoot the looters, but it's time to start treating this area like a war zone.

I don't even think you need to actually shoot people. Just get film of police gunning down "looters" with blanks, and let word of mouth take its course.

They're watching TV in the city?

No, but there are radios. News would get disseminated from the radio through word of mouth. Not sure it would work, but it would be a good intermediate step before authorities started gunning down looters indescriminately. I'd like to take a gun to the looters myself, but I think that kind of solution would have really dreadful long-term consequences.

 

[jplvr]

I've said it from the start that we needed to shoot the looters, but it's time to start treating this area like a war zone.

I don't even think you need to actually shoot people. Just get film of police gunning down "looters" with blanks, and let word of mouth take its course.

They're watching TV in the city?

No, but there are radios. News would get disseminated from the radio through word of mouth. Not sure it would work, but it would be a good intermediate step before authorities started gunning down looters indescriminately. I'd like to take a gun to the looters myself, but I think that kind of solution would have really dreadful long-term consequences.

I couldn't imagine the outcry if they actually started shooting looters.

 

[tri-man 47]

For the colleges and universities, it goes beyond missing games. Some of the schools (as I hear it through my midwest university) will have to close for a year. I heard that Tulane told their new students, one hour into their orientation, to pack up and go home while their parents were still there to take them - they all just had to leave the campus.

 

[aardball44]

As sad as it makes me to say this, it's going to get much worse for the folks still in New Orleans before it gets better. These people have only been without food and water for a couple of days. Imagine when the real hunger pangs kick in, and combine that with the abject despair of sitting in a toxic soup with nothing left to lose. :( Chaos. Anarchy. Bedlam. Worse. :( Cannibalism?

 

[MelvinTScupper]

As sad as it makes me to say this, it's going to get much worse for the folks still in New Orleans before it gets better. These people have only been without food and water for a couple of days. Imagine when the real hunger pangs kick in, and combine that with the abject despair of sitting in a toxic soup with nothing left to lose.

:(

Chaos. Anarchy. Bedlam. Worse.

:(

Cannibalism?

WHY DON'T THESE MORONS LEAVE?

 

[Genedoc]

As sad as it makes me to say this, it's going to get much worse for the folks still in New Orleans before it gets better. These people have only been without food and water for a couple of days. Imagine when the real hunger pangs kick in, and combine that with the abject despair of sitting in a toxic soup with nothing left to lose.

:(

Chaos. Anarchy. Bedlam. Worse.

:(

Cannibalism?

WHY DON'T THESE MORONS LEAVE?

A) HOW DO THEY GET OUT?B) WHERE DO THEY GO?

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Send all money to me...or How You Can Help Hurricane Katrina VictimsVoluntary organizations are seeking cash donations to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina in Gulf Coast states. Volunteers should not report directly to the affected areas unless directed by a voluntary agency. Self-dispatched volunteers can put themselves and others in harm’s way and hamper rescue efforts.Donate Money American Red Cross 1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English, 1-800-257-7575 Spanish Operation Blessing 1-800-436-6348 America’s Second Harvest 1-800-344-8070Donate Cash to and Volunteer Adventist Community Services 1-800-381-7171 Catholic Charities, USA 1-800-919-9338 Christian Disaster Response 941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554 Christian Reformed World Relief Committee 1-800-848-5818 Church World Service 1-800-297-1516 Convoy of Hope 417-823-8998 Lutheran Disaster Response 800-638-3522 Mennonite Disaster Service 717-859-2210 Nazarene Disaster Response 888-256-5886 Presbyterian Disaster Assistance 800-872-3283 Salvation Army 1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769) Southern Baptist Convention -- Disaster Relief 1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440 United Methodist Committee on Relief 1-800-554-8583

 

[The_Man]

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cas/

From the craigslist "casual encounters" (i.e., random sex) page for New Orleans.

My favorite is the oh-so-generous offer of the married couple from new hampshire to house a submissive bisexual female (if she provides pics).

Also, the random spam is kind of funny considering it is allegedly being sent from people in New Orleans right now.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

As sad as it makes me to say this, it's going to get much worse for the folks still in New Orleans before it gets better. These people have only been without food and water for a couple of days. Imagine when the real hunger pangs kick in, and combine that with the abject despair of sitting in a toxic soup with nothing left to lose.

:(

Chaos. Anarchy. Bedlam. Worse.

:(

Cannibalism?

WHY DON'T THESE MORONS LEAVE?

Because they can't...don't be a jerk about it.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

http://neworleans.craigslist.org/cas/

From the craigslist "casual encounters" (i.e., random sex) page for New Orleans.

My favorite is the oh-so-generous offer of the married couple from new hampshire to house a submissive bisexual female (if she provides pics).

Also, the random spam is kind of funny considering it is allegedly being sent from people in New Orleans right now.

hilarious. thanks.

 

[tri-man 47]

I read that Chris Duhon is undertaking an effort to help his hometown of Slidell.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

This link has elevation maps of the city and neighborhoods. My house is right above the "S" in Tchoupitoulas St. on the Uptown side. I've heard that my house suffered little to no damage from the wind, now it's wait and see if the water does what Katrina didn't.

Link

edit: I misread the map, I'm a few blocks over.

call me at my moms E.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Just when you think it could get worse......

In my opinion, if things break right, I would try and buy as much land around the NO area as possible. The place will come back, and they will come back strong. In 5 years, things will be back to normal.

I think at this point that is sort of nieve.The economic ramifications are tremendous here. The oil business will still be there, damaged or not. But that may be the only industry left. When do ya'll really think we will have tourist dollars again? Are any of the freshman class from Tulane & Loyola even going to consider coming back? How many residents have already, or are in the process of deciding if they ever come back other than for salvage?

The fishing industry is more than likely gone...all the shrimp boats, the oyster fisherman, etc lived in areas we haven't seen one photo from...I doubt anything near the mouth of the river even exisits anymore. The I-10 twinspan is just gone...no repair..will have to be a brand new bridge. The further puts us back at risk if we go back, not to mention what that will do to commerce.

The saints will be in San Antonio for the rest of the year, unless they can come back to play in Baton Rouge...but who will go? Forget about the Hornets..they are done in NO now.

The emotions are starting to get the best of all of my family. The wife & my mom broke down hard last night. My FIL is making plans to move his family to chicago. He has 2 homes in NO he is planning on trying to sell/abandon & hope FEMA helps out.

I am planning on staying here in Pensacola and taking it easy. There are no quick descions to be made here...I did that on Saturday by getting out ahead of the evac. traffic. We have discussed, and are probably becoming more & more resolved to not move back at this point. I know in my heart the restaurant is done. It will not make any sense to reopen at this point. It would take years to recover, and we just became profitable last year after 4 years of borrowing.

At this point, we will probably either stay in NO, move to ATL, or possibly even Chicago....... Unless Joe B. offers me a job. I'd be the perfect roving reporter traveling around the country meeting all the other FBG's and watching football for a living.

I agree that this pretty much guarantees the Saints end up in Los Angeles and that Big Oil will rebuild and continue to use the area as it makes too much geographic sense for them..However, the fishing industry will come back. We're talking about one of the oldest professions in the history of mankind and the one that routinely gets knocked around by things of this nature. It'll be back.

Sucks about your restaurant. Are there plans from the SBA to step in and help small businesses in the area?

Even if you decide to move, look on the bright side and try and use it for an opportunity for you. Maybe you can start your own restaurant somewhere now.

Maybe...Pensacola needs better food... :foodsnob:

Dude, talk about casting pearls unto swine. My family has run a restaurant for 25 years. If you can survive the beginning and get to the point where you can turn a profit, you know what you are doing and can run a restaurant almost anywhere. You know the numbers as well as I do - most restaurants fail in the first year or two. That you've made it over that hump once and gotten into the black - in a town as competative as NO, nonetheless - you should have no problem doing it again if that's what you decide. Best of luck...

To early to really consider it, but I would rule this city food wise.

I've got plenty of family to support your new place if you end up in Chicago.And my sister-in-law works for Apartments.com in Chicago. So maybe we could even find you a place, eh?

that could be good...even have my SIL as at careerbuilder.com working there. a job, a house...now i just need a reason to live in the upper midwest.

 

[urbanhack]

Tipsy, TF, Squirrels, Dome Patrol and all NO FBGs...Just wanted to say hang in there and I hope things work out for the best for all of you.I'm sending positive thoughts and vibes your way.

 

[shining path]

Send all money to me...or

How You Can Help Hurricane Katrina Victims

Voluntary organizations are seeking cash donations to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina in Gulf Coast states. Volunteers should not report directly to the affected areas unless directed by a voluntary agency. Self-dispatched volunteers can put themselves and others in harm’s way and hamper rescue efforts.

Donate Money

American Red Cross

1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English,

1-800-257-7575 Spanish

Operation Blessing

1-800-436-6348

America’s Second Harvest

1-800-344-8070

Donate Cash to and Volunteer

Adventist Community Services

1-800-381-7171

Catholic Charities, USA

1-800-919-9338

Christian Disaster Response

941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554

Christian Reformed World Relief Committee

1-800-848-5818

Church World Service

1-800-297-1516

Convoy of Hope

417-823-8998

Lutheran Disaster Response

800-638-3522

Mennonite Disaster Service

717-859-2210

Nazarene Disaster Response

888-256-5886

Presbyterian Disaster Assistance

800-872-3283

Salvation Army

1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769)

Southern Baptist Convention -- Disaster Relief

1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440

United Methodist Committee on Relief

1-800-554-8583

I'd guess that the Red Cross is the best use of money of that list. Anyone know anything about this?

 

[beefcake]

off topic, but this from a LSU board

I'm not sure if it will possible to play the ASU game in Baton Rouge in 10 days. The traffic around town is unreal, and doesn't seem fit thousands of more visitors. It's pretty chaotic around town, and I won't be surprised if they move or postpone the game. If the game is moved to Arizona, the number of LSU fans would certainly be sparse. Any other Baton Rouge people feel the same way? I could be jumping the gun, but I don't think the situation will be much better in merely 10 days.

anyways, i was trying to get the LSU/Baton Rouge pov..http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/default.asp?b=2

 

[Genedoc]

I read that Chris Duhon is undertaking an effort to help his hometown of Slidell. 

Raleigh local, Duke alum here. Chris is indeed starting up a package to help Slidell. He'll get plenty of help, too. There is a movement among the Iron Dukes to adopt Slidell and help Chris out however we can. Read more about it here: http://www.dukebasketballreport.com/alumni/index.cgi?394

 

[RedRaiders]

I think Bagger is taking up a collection for a special relief project as well

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Send all money to me...or

How You Can Help Hurricane Katrina Victims

Voluntary organizations are seeking cash donations to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina in Gulf Coast states. Volunteers should not report directly to the affected areas unless directed by a voluntary agency. Self-dispatched volunteers can put themselves and others in harm’s way and hamper rescue efforts.

Donate Money

American Red Cross

1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English,

1-800-257-7575 Spanish

Operation Blessing

1-800-436-6348

America’s Second Harvest

1-800-344-8070

Donate Cash to and Volunteer

Adventist Community Services

1-800-381-7171

Catholic Charities, USA

1-800-919-9338

Christian Disaster Response

941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554

Christian Reformed World Relief Committee

1-800-848-5818

Church World Service

1-800-297-1516

Convoy of Hope

417-823-8998

Lutheran Disaster Response

800-638-3522

Mennonite Disaster Service

717-859-2210

Nazarene Disaster Response

888-256-5886

Presbyterian Disaster Assistance

800-872-3283

Salvation Army

1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769)

Southern Baptist Convention -- Disaster Relief

1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440

United Methodist Committee on Relief

1-800-554-8583

I'd guess that the Red Cross is the best use of money of that list. Anyone know anything about this?

its from FEMA site.

 

[Drifter]

Send all money to me...or

How You Can Help Hurricane Katrina Victims

Voluntary organizations are seeking cash donations to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina in Gulf Coast states. Volunteers should not report directly to the affected areas unless directed by a voluntary agency.  Self-dispatched volunteers can put themselves and others in harm’s way and hamper rescue efforts.

Donate Money

    American Red Cross

    1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English,

    1-800-257-7575 Spanish

    Operation Blessing

    1-800-436-6348

    America’s Second Harvest

    1-800-344-8070

Donate Cash to and Volunteer

    Adventist Community Services

    1-800-381-7171

    Catholic Charities, USA

    1-800-919-9338

    Christian Disaster Response

    941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554

    Christian Reformed World Relief Committee

    1-800-848-5818

    Church World Service

    1-800-297-1516

    Convoy of Hope

    417-823-8998

    Lutheran Disaster Response

    800-638-3522

    Mennonite Disaster Service

    717-859-2210

    Nazarene Disaster Response

    888-256-5886

    Presbyterian Disaster Assistance

    800-872-3283

    Salvation Army

    1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769)

    Southern Baptist Convention -- Disaster Relief

    1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440

    United Methodist Committee on Relief

    1-800-554-8583

I'd guess that the Red Cross is the best use of money of that list. Anyone know anything about this?

I would think all these groups are going to be focused on getting food and water into the area and providing shelter. I don't mind donating to Christian groups for domestic disaster relief, I just don't care to support their prostheletyzing internationally.

 

[shadyridr]

Quick question:I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

 

[dickey moe]

Quick question:

I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

This storm was bigger and dropped more rain.

 

[Mrs. BSR]

I was watching the live feed from www.wwltv.com and they were showing where the water was so high that the houses were being lifted off their foundations and floating in the water, crashing into other houses.They just showed a guy that said he was sitting on his front porch feeding his cat and two guys came up to him with a knife and told him to give them his truck or they would kill him. :( This is all just horrible. Between the flooding and the looting, it's all so scary.

 

[Sidewinder]

I was watching the live feed from www.wwltv.com and they were showing where the water was so high that the houses were being lifted off their foundations and floating in the water, crashing into other houses.

They just showed a guy that said he was sitting on his front porch feeding his cat and two guys came up to him with a knife and told him to give them his truck or they would kill him. :(

This is all just horrible. Between the flooding and the looting, it's all so scary.

Yeah, I just watched that as well. Puts in perspective how bad the Superdome has gotten when those folks thought it safer to go out into the streets rather than stay in the Dome.

 

[culdeus]

Is operation blessing religious? I'd rather not send money to any religious group or the red cross after the 9/11 debacle. No, I'm not providing a link.

 

[aardball44]

Quick question:

I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

This storm was bigger and dropped more rain.

...and anyone unfortunate enough to still be trapped in their attics, or under the crush of lumber and muck, is toast.Plus all the craziness to come. What craziness, you ask? You don't want to know.

 

[Sidewinder]

Quick question:

I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

Camille was a smaller storm (actually area it covered) and hit an area that was much less populated.

 

[FatMax]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

Quick question:

I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

This storm was bigger and dropped more rain.

and hit more of new orleans than camille did. plus, the lake got filled by storm surge. It all boils down to just how big Katrina got.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Quick question:

I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

Storm surge was higher this time and the levys breaking in New Orleans played a large part. Also, if you have seen any interviews from Biloxi most everyone states the devastation is much greater than Camille.

 

[jplvr]

I was watching the live feed from www.wwltv.com and they were showing where the water was so high that the houses were being lifted off their foundations and floating in the water, crashing into other houses.

They just showed a guy that said he was sitting on his front porch feeding his cat and two guys came up to him with a knife and told him to give them his truck or they would kill him. :(

This is all just horrible. Between the flooding and the looting, it's all so scary.

Well, at least these reports are starting to come in on the actual news now. I was kind of hoping what my friend was telling me earlier today was rumor.

 

[culdeus]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

San Antonio probably for their first game or two so I've heard.

 

[Sidewinder]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

Alot of speculation here, but nothing definite at this point.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

probably san antonio

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

San Antonio probably for their first game or two so I've heard.

I doubt they play any games in the Superdome this season.

 

[Mrs. BSR]

If they actually do bring in the military to help keep the peace and relieve the coast guard and reserves to rescue survivors, how will they get in? Is there still roads to get in and out or will they have to come in via helicopter?

 

[FatMax]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

San Antonio probably for their first game or two so I've heard.

Does SA have large outdoor venue? I can't think of what colleges are there.

 

[Sidewinder]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

San Antonio probably for their first game or two so I've heard.

Does SA have large outdoor venue? I can't think of what colleges are there.

Alamodome. Saints played a preseason game there a couple of years ago.

 

[tipsy mcstagger]

This is the news that we didn't want to hear, but here it is anyway. :(

New Orleans mayor says thousands likely are dead

03:07 PM EDT on Wednesday, August 31, 2005

By BRETT MARTEL

Associated Press

NEW ORLEANS — The mayor said Wednesday that Hurricane Katrina probably killed thousands of people in New Orleans.

"We know there is a significant number of dead bodies in the water," and other people dead in attics, Mayor Ray Nagin said. Asked how many, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands."

The frightening estimate came as Army engineers struggled to plug New Orleans' breached levees with giant sandbags and concrete barriers, while authorities drew up plans to clear out the tens of thousands of people left in New Orleans and all but abandon the flooded-out city.

There will be a "total evacuation of the city. We have to. The city will not be functional for two or three months," Nagin said.

Most of those refugees — 15,000 to 20,000 people — were in the Superdome, which had become hot and stuffy, with broken toilets and nowhere for anyone to bathe. "It can no longer operate as a shelter of last resort," the mayor said.

Nagin estimated 50,000 to 100,000 people remained in New Orleans. He said 14,000 to 15,000 a day could be evacuated.

The frightening prediction came as Army engineers struggled to plug New Orleans' breached levees with giant sandbags and concrete barriers, while authorities drew up plans to move some 25,000 storm refugees out of the city to Houston in a huge bus convoy and all but abandon flooded-out New Orleans.

Gov. Kathleen Blanco said the situation was desperate and there was no choice but to clear out.

"The logistical problems are impossible and we have to evacuate people in shelters," the governor said. "It's becoming untenable. There's no power. It's getting more difficult to get food and water supplies in, just basic essentials."

The Pentagon, meanwhile, began mounting one of the largest search-and-rescue operations in U.S. history, sending four Navy ships to the Gulf Coast with drinking water and other emergency supplies, along with the hospital ship USNS Comfort, search helicopters and elite SEAL water-rescue teams. American Red Cross workers from across the country converged on the devastated region in the agency's biggest-ever relief operation.

The death toll from Hurricane Katrina has reached at least 110 in Mississippi alone. But Louisiana has put aside the counting of the dead to concentrate on rescuing the living, many of whom were still trapped on rooftops and in attics.

A full day after the Big Easy thought it had escaped Katrina's full fury, two levees broke and spilled water into the streets Tuesday, swamping an estimated 80 percent of the bowl-shaped, below-sea-level city, inundating miles and miles of homes and rendering much of New Orleans uninhabitable for weeks or months.

"We are looking at 12 to 16 weeks before people can come in," Nagin said on morning TV, "and the other issue that's concerning me is we have dead bodies in the water. At some point in time the dead bodies are going to start to create a serious disease issue."

With the streets awash and looters brazenly cleaning out stores, authorities planned to move at least 25,000 of New Orlean's storm refugees - most of them taking shelter in the dank and sweltering Superdome - to the Astrodome in Houston in a vast exodus by bus.

Around midday, officials with the state and the Army Corps of Engineers said the water levels between the city and Lake Pontchartrain had equalized, and water had stopped rising in New Orleans, and even appeared to be falling, at least in some places. But the danger was far from over.

The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 3,000-pound sandbags Wednesday into the 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall. But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.

Officials said they were also looking at a more audacious plan: finding a barge to plug the 500-foot hole.

"The challenge is an engineering nightmare," the governor said on TV.

As New Orleans descended deeper into chaos, hundreds of people wandered aimlessly up and down Interstate 10, pushing shopping carts, laundry racks, anything they could find to carry their belongings. Dozens of fishermen from up to 200 miles away floated in on caravans of boats to pull residents out of flooded neighborhoods.

On some of the few roads that were still passable, people waved at passing cars with empty water jugs, begging for relief. Hundreds of people appeared to have spent the night on a crippled highway.

In one east New orleans neighborhood, refugees were being loaded onto the backs of moving vans like cattle, and in one case emergency workers with a sledgehammer and an ax broke open the back of a mail truck and used it to ferry sick and elderly residents.

Police officers were asking residents to give up any guns they had before they boarded buses and trucks because police desperately needed the firepower: Some officers who had been stranded on the roof of a motel said they were being shot at overnight.

 

[whoknew]

Send all money to me...or

How You Can Help Hurricane Katrina Victims

Voluntary organizations are seeking cash donations to assist victims of Hurricane Katrina in Gulf Coast states. Volunteers should not report directly to the affected areas unless directed by a voluntary agency.  Self-dispatched volunteers can put themselves and others in harm’s way and hamper rescue efforts.

Donate Money

    American Red Cross

    1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English,

    1-800-257-7575 Spanish

    Operation Blessing

    1-800-436-6348

    America’s Second Harvest

    1-800-344-8070

Donate Cash to and Volunteer

    Adventist Community Services

    1-800-381-7171

    Catholic Charities, USA

    1-800-919-9338

    Christian Disaster Response

    941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554

    Christian Reformed World Relief Committee

    1-800-848-5818

    Church World Service

    1-800-297-1516

    Convoy of Hope

    417-823-8998

    Lutheran Disaster Response

    800-638-3522

    Mennonite Disaster Service

    717-859-2210

    Nazarene Disaster Response

    888-256-5886

    Presbyterian Disaster Assistance

    800-872-3283

    Salvation Army

    1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769)

    Southern Baptist Convention -- Disaster Relief

    1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440

    United Methodist Committee on Relief

    1-800-554-8583

I'd guess that the Red Cross is the best use of money of that list. Anyone know anything about this?

I would think all these groups are going to be focused on getting food and water into the area and providing shelter. I don't mind donating to Christian groups for domestic disaster relief, I just don't care to support their prostheletyzing internationally.

The interview I saw with the FEMA director on Monday specifically mentioned donating to the Red Cross, Salvation Army or any other religious organization that is there to help the victims.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

Is operation blessing religious? I'd rather not send money to any religious group or the red cross after the 9/11 debacle. No, I'm not providing a link.

Is your issue that the Red Cross used the money above and beyond what they felt was needed for 9/11 for other needs?

 

[jplvr]

Quick question:

I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

This storm was bigger and dropped more rain.

and hit more of new orleans than camille did. plus, the lake got filled by storm surge. It all boils down to just how big Katrina got.

And this wasn't even the "worst case scenario." I know you and everyone else that's ever lived in close proximity to NO knows this:#1 Katrina jogged to the east, not passing directly over the city. (Surely everyone following this situation knows this).

#2 The "worst case scenario" has a big storm heading straight into New Orleans on a NW track, not really passing over any land before hitting the city and basically right along the Alabama and Mississippi coasts. Heck, then it most likely heads up the Mississippi as it heads north and into the usual weather pattern turning east depositing even more rain that will eventually make it back into the city through the river.

This was far from being the one that everyone has always feared and it's STILL completely horrible.

 

[FatMax]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

San Antonio probably for their first game or two so I've heard.

Does SA have large outdoor venue? I can't think of what colleges are there.

Alamodome. Saints played a preseason game there a couple of years ago.

Hmm. Interesting. I knew it was the largest indoor NBA arena, holding 35k+ for basketball games. The thing is that they will likely have to take out the entire lower level to accomodate a football field, reducing the capacity to around 20k (just a guess). Pretty small by football standards, but I guess they probably aren't expecting a huge attendance anyway.

 

[dickey moe]

Quick question:

I just read that they think the death toll is going to be in the thousands. Meanwhile Hurricane Camille which hit basically the same area with the same power only killed 256. With the newer technology and medical breakthroughs and evacuations, my question is why?

This storm was bigger and dropped more rain.

and hit more of new orleans than camille did. plus, the lake got filled by storm surge. It all boils down to just how big Katrina got.

And this wasn't even the "worst case scenario." I know you and everyone else that's ever lived in close proximity to NO knows this:#1 Katrina jogged to the east, not passing directly over the city. (Surely everyone following this situation knows this).

#2 The "worst case scenario" has a big storm heading straight into New Orleans on a NW track, not really passing over any land before hitting the city and basically right along the Alabama and Mississippi coasts. Heck, then it most likely heads up the Mississippi as it heads north and into the usual weather pattern turning east depositing even more rain that will eventually make it back into the city through the river.

This was far from being the one that everyone has always feared and it's STILL completely horrible.

I can't imagine it being much more horrible than this -- I wonder how things would be different had the storm headed straight into New Orleans? Deeper water, more land surface area covered? More casualties I guess? :(

 

[Sidewinder]

On a lighter note, where are the Saints going to play this year?

San Antonio probably for their first game or two so I've heard.

Does SA have large outdoor venue? I can't think of what colleges are there.

Alamodome. Saints played a preseason game there a couple of years ago.

Hmm. Interesting. I knew it was the largest indoor NBA arena, holding 35k+ for basketball games. The thing is that they will likely have to take out the entire lower level to accomodate a football field, reducing the capacity to around 20k (just a guess). Pretty small by football standards, but I guess they probably aren't expecting a huge attendance anyway.

Not sure what they have to do to configure for football. They do play a college bowl game there (can't remember the name).