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Keeper Discussion (1 Viewer)

I would think it would be "XBog"...and yes he's for sure a keeper on that team.

 
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I have 18 points available to keep as many players as possible. You can keep every player for four years and everyone on my list will be in their second year (other than Matt Moore, who is in his 4th year). This is a good draft year because a lot of talent had expiring contracts at the end of last year and I have made trades to stock up on draft picks, including two first-rounders.

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

16-team H2H

Here is my list of possibilities:

Carlos Gomez 4

Yadier Molina 3

Wil Myers 3

Austin Jackson 3

Oscar Tavares 3

Dexter Fowler 3

Pedro Alvarez 2

Justin Smoak 2

Matt Moore 1 (in last year of contract)

David Robertson 1

Lance Lynn 1

Jonathon Niese 1

Nick Castellanos 1

Definitely keeping: Gomez, Molina, Myers, Alvarez, Moore - total of 13 points

That leaves 5 points left

I would appreciate any thoughts.

 
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I have 18 points available to keep as many players as possible. You can keep every player for four years and everyone on my list will be in their second year (other than Matt Moore, who is in his 4th year). This is a good draft year because a lot of talent had expiring contracts at the end of last year and I have made trades to stock up on draft picks, including two first-rounders.

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

16-team H2H

Here is my list of possibilities:

Carlos Gomez 4

Yadier Molina 3

Wil Myers 3

Austin Jackson 3

Oscar Tavares 3

Dexter Fowler 3

Pedro Alvarez 2

Justin Smoak 2

Matt Moore 1 (in last year of contract)

David Robertson 1

Lance Lynn 1

Jonathon Niese 1

Nick Castellanos 1

Definitely keeping: Gomez, Molina, Myers, Alvarez, Moore - total of 13 points

That leaves 5 points left

I would appreciate any thoughts.
Robertson and Lynn seem like strong plays.

Then since it's an average league, AJAX would be a decent keep. Castellanos is a decent long-term keep though, but I'm not sure what he'll do this year.

 
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Brandon Phillips - 2B

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP

Matt Moore - SP

Homer Bailey - SP

Rafeal Soriano -RP

 
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP
 
isn't mauer still listed as catcher?
Ahh good catch, listed as C/DH on ESPN. I assume 1B will come available after his 5th start? or is it 10. May keep him just so I can play him at C position even though he probably won't be playing there much if not at all.

 
H2H points league, cut 5 of the following

Carlos Santana

Matt Wieters

Eric Hosmer

Robinson Cano

Jason Kipnis

Elvis Andrus

Evan Longoria

Joey Bats

Desmond Jennings

Michael Bourn

Matt Moore

Jon Lester

Anibal Sanchez

Jake Peavy

 
Peavy

Wieters

Jennings

Bourn

Lester
Thanks moops, Interesting choices. Easily understand Peavy but let Lester go instead of Anibal? Have Andrus as a definite cut (have Xander minor league protected) which would let me keep Jennings who I really like.

 
Peavy

Wieters

Jennings

Bourn

Lester
Thanks moops, Interesting choices. Easily understand Peavy but let Lester go instead of Anibal? Have Andrus as a definite cut (have Xander minor league protected) which would let me keep Jennings who I really like.
I think you would be crazy to cut Anibal in favor of Lester. I would cut Jennings instead of Elvis too. Like Xander long term, but Andrus should be much better this year.
 
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Brandon Phillips - 2B

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP

Matt Moore - SP

Homer Bailey - SP

Rafeal Soriano -RP
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP
dont agree with Mauer, even if it is a two c league. Keep Phillips.
 
Please don't listen to that advice. If its a 2 C league, you keep Mauer.

ETA: If he retorts about the value of daily platooning Terry Steinbach and Mike LaValliere at the position instead, you'll know I'm right.

 
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Peavy

Wieters

Jennings

Bourn

Lester
Thanks moops, Interesting choices. Easily understand Peavy but let Lester go instead of Anibal? Have Andrus as a definite cut (have Xander minor league protected) which would let me keep Jennings who I really like.
I think you would be crazy to cut Anibal in favor of Lester. I would cut Jennings instead of Elvis too. Like Xander long term, but Andrus should be much better this year.
I'm a bit surprised by so much more love for Anibal over Lester. Changing my thinking on my pitchers now. As far as SS I never valued AL SS too much, but Elvis is probably the best one for a points league. No one keeps SS so plenty available. But we start 4 OFs and cutting Desmond leaves me with 1 OF going into the draft with not too many quality OFs in the draft. So that has me leaning DJ instead of Elvis.

well. knowing you have xander changes things. nice to know those things :)
Yea sorry about that, he doesn't factor into my decisions since he's still my ML, but should've noted that next to Elvis' name at least. Thanks for the replies.

 
Peavy

Wieters

Jennings

Bourn

Lester
Thanks moops, Interesting choices. Easily understand Peavy but let Lester go instead of Anibal? Have Andrus as a definite cut (have Xander minor league protected) which would let me keep Jennings who I really like.
I think you would be crazy to cut Anibal in favor of Lester. I would cut Jennings instead of Elvis too. Like Xander long term, but Andrus should be much better this year.
I'm a bit surprised by so much more love for Anibal over Lester. Changing my thinking on my pitchers now. As far as SS I never valued AL SS too much, but Elvis is probably the best one for a points league. No one keeps SS so plenty available. But we start 4 OFs and cutting Desmond leaves me with 1 OF going into the draft with not too many quality OFs in the draft. So that has me leaning DJ instead of Elvis.

well. knowing you have xander changes things. nice to know those things :)
Yea sorry about that, he doesn't factor into my decisions since he's still my ML, but should've noted that next to Elvis' name at least. Thanks for the replies.
Keep your best players. Don't worry about positions unless you'd have to bench a keeper.

 
Keep your best players. Don't worry about positions unless you'd have to bench a keeper.
Yea good point, honestly think Des can be better than Elvis. Plus he's one of those guys I've brought up though my "system" and it's always harder to let them go too soon. Just traded Cano for Adam Jones and a high pick so my OF improved, making more room for Elvis. :thumbup:

 
RnR said:
Please don't listen to that advice. If its a 2 C league, you keep Mauer.

ETA: If he retorts about the value of daily platooning Terry Steinbach and Mike LaValliere at the position instead, you'll know I'm right.
the only reason to keep Mauer is if you plan to trade him pre draft. His adp is not in line with his actual value. He's a one category player. Lots of alternative routes to play at catcher.
 
Billy Bats said:
MAC_32 said:
Billy Bats said:
the moops said:
Peavy

Wieters

Jennings

Bourn

Lester
Thanks moops, Interesting choices. Easily understand Peavy but let Lester go instead of Anibal? Have Andrus as a definite cut (have Xander minor league protected) which would let me keep Jennings who I really like.
I think you would be crazy to cut Anibal in favor of Lester. I would cut Jennings instead of Elvis too. Like Xander long term, but Andrus should be much better this year.
I'm a bit surprised by so much more love for Anibal over Lester. Changing my thinking on my pitchers now. As far as SS I never valued AL SS too much, but Elvis is probably the best one for a points league. No one keeps SS so plenty available. But we start 4 OFs and cutting Desmond leaves me with 1 OF going into the draft with not too many quality OFs in the draft. So that has me leaning DJ instead of Elvis.
the moops said:
well. knowing you have xander changes things. nice to know those things :)
Yea sorry about that, he doesn't factor into my decisions since he's still my ML, but should've noted that next to Elvis' name at least. Thanks for the replies.
stuff is better, more K's, goes deeper in games, more consistent. Only concern is health. I don't think Lester is in the same ballpark as Sanchez.
 
RnR said:
Please don't listen to that advice. If its a 2 C league, you keep Mauer.

ETA: If he retorts about the value of daily platooning Terry Steinbach and Mike LaValliere at the position instead, you'll know I'm right.
the only reason to keep Mauer is if you plan to trade him pre draft. His adp is not in line with his actual value. He's a one category player. Lots of alternative routes to play at catcher.
Please list the catchers that will have more R & RBI than a non-catching Mauer this season. I don't think you understand what "one-category player" means.

Also, what in the world does his ADP have to do with this decision?

ETA: There are not "lots of alternative routes to play at catcher." In fact, in his keeper league it is probably a wasteland. You can create all the threads you want here to try and frame yourself as an expert, but don't bring that weak sauce in other threads and give bad advice to innocent folks in the name of looking like some kind of magic baseball guru by "thinking outside the box." It's unbecoming... and mostly just lame.

 
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Back on topic for Mac:

Baseball Forecaster has Mauer as its most valuable fantasy catcher.

MLB.com Fantasy and Yahoo!'s panel of experts have him #2.

ESPN.com's fantasy panel has him #3.

.... Mac's favorite source of free information (Razzball.com) ranks him #12.

You figure out where his "opinion" comes from.

 
I'm in a 12 team keeper, keep 9-12 players. I have my 12 guys selected but now it comes down to having more money at the draft. I'm at $124 with 12 keepers, 7 hitters and 5 pitchers. $260 cap.

I can keep Sergio Romo for $7 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $2. I can keep Fister at $9 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $4. Keep in mind an average closer in this league goes for $12 and also that I have Jansen and Janssen as keepers already. Starting pitching can be had at a reasonable price, the top hitters go in the $40s and usually good starters can be had for $10-$15.

Would you keep or option those two? TIA.

 
stuff is better, more K's, goes deeper in games, more consistent. Only concern is health. I don't think Lester is in the same ballpark as Sanchez.
Thanks for the input. (moops included) Just now getting into keepr/draft prep so the info is appreciated.

 
I'm in a 12 team keeper, keep 9-12 players. I have my 12 guys selected but now it comes down to having more money at the draft. I'm at $124 with 12 keepers, 7 hitters and 5 pitchers. $260 cap.

I can keep Sergio Romo for $7 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $2. I can keep Fister at $9 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $4. Keep in mind an average closer in this league goes for $12 and also that I have Jansen and Janssen as keepers already. Starting pitching can be had at a reasonable price, the top hitters go in the $40s and usually good starters can be had for $10-$15.

Would you keep or option those two? TIA.
I'd probably lean to keep Romo both seasons given that info on closers. He's a decent bet to be a top 10 option both seasons. Fister is a little harder decision. Could go either way with that one.

 
dparker713 said:
MAC_32 said:
MAC_32 said:
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Brandon Phillips - 2B

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP

Matt Moore - SP

Homer Bailey - SP

Rafeal Soriano -RP
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP
dont agree with Mauer, even if it is a two c league. Keep Phillips.
respond to this post without acting like a ##### and I will answer your question.
I'll respond, why on Earth would you want to keep Phillips over Mauer? He's not going to have Choo to drive in and if his RBI total isn't artificially inflated, he's not particularly useful.
i think he will bat between Votto and Bruce. Given his periphs and babip I think he was unlucky with average. I don't see the speed coming back, but no reason he can't repeat last year if he bats fourth. Mauer is in a lousy offense, if he plays 140 games (can't ignore concussion risk) his counting stats may total 160, he doesn't run anymore, and he's looking at 10 homers. He won't help anywhere outside of average. If he plays all year.

I am very risk adverse when building the foundation of my team. The downside for Phillips is a lot better than the downside to Mauer and his upside is much higher. I get more creative, roll more dice, and am generally impatient as I get to the second half of my roster. Total opposite with the front half.

 
I'm in a 12 team keeper, keep 9-12 players. I have my 12 guys selected but now it comes down to having more money at the draft. I'm at $124 with 12 keepers, 7 hitters and 5 pitchers. $260 cap.

I can keep Sergio Romo for $7 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $2. I can keep Fister at $9 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $4. Keep in mind an average closer in this league goes for $12 and also that I have Jansen and Janssen as keepers already. Starting pitching can be had at a reasonable price, the top hitters go in the $40s and usually good starters can be had for $10-$15.

Would you keep or option those two? TIA.
not knowing anything else I keep both, very heavy on the pitcher to bat ratio though, would likely plan to go very bat heavy in the auction.
 
I'm in a 12 team keeper, keep 9-12 players. I have my 12 guys selected but now it comes down to having more money at the draft. I'm at $124 with 12 keepers, 7 hitters and 5 pitchers. $260 cap.

I can keep Sergio Romo for $7 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $2. I can keep Fister at $9 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $4. Keep in mind an average closer in this league goes for $12 and also that I have Jansen and Janssen as keepers already. Starting pitching can be had at a reasonable price, the top hitters go in the $40s and usually good starters can be had for $10-$15.

Would you keep or option those two? TIA.
not knowing anything else I keep both, very heavy on the pitcher to bat ratio though, would likely plan to go very bat heavy in the auction.
Keeps:

Posey $14 Year 5 (can keep five years)

Sal Perez $1+$5 extension Year 3

Jose Altuve $3+$5 ext Year 3

Pedro Alvarez $2+$5 ext Year 3

Michael Cuddyer $7 Year 2

Adam Jones $41 Year 2

Byron Buxton $1 Year 2

Adam Wainwright $9 Year 4

Doug Fister $4 or $9 year 3

Kenley Jansen $7 Year 2

Casey Janssen $8 Year 2

Sergio Romo $2 or $7 year 3

Average league, Adam Jones likely to go between $45 and $50 at draft and I'm not getting into bidding on every $50 player this year. Also prospects can be traded for big returns in this league mid-season, I got Jones last year for Arenado for example. So Buxton stays over Holliday $28, Garza $4, and Byrd $1. I chose Jones over $30 Year 3 Jay Bruce because of the average component. Most teams come into the draft with team salaries lower than $90, some around $60 so the auction inflation for big players is ridiculous. Last year was the most I ever spent on one player, $37 Jose Reyes.

 
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I'm in a 12 team keeper, keep 9-12 players. I have my 12 guys selected but now it comes down to having more money at the draft. I'm at $124 with 12 keepers, 7 hitters and 5 pitchers. $260 cap.

I can keep Sergio Romo for $7 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $2. I can keep Fister at $9 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $4. Keep in mind an average closer in this league goes for $12 and also that I have Jansen and Janssen as keepers already. Starting pitching can be had at a reasonable price, the top hitters go in the $40s and usually good starters can be had for $10-$15.

Would you keep or option those two? TIA.
not knowing anything else I keep both, very heavy on the pitcher to bat ratio though, would likely plan to go very bat heavy in the auction.
Keeps:Posey $14 Year 5 (can keep five years)

Sal Perez $1+$5 extension Year 3

Jose Altuve $3+$5 ext Year 3

Jose Alvarez $2+$5 ext Year 3

Michael Cuddyer $7 Year 2

Adam Jones $41 Year 2

Byron Buxton $1 Year 2

Adam Wainwright $9 Year 4

Doug Fister $4 or $9 year 3

Kenley Jansen $7 Year 2

Casey Janssen $8 Year 2

Sergio Romo $2 or $7 year 3

Average league, Adam Jones likely to go between $45 and $50 at draft and I'm not getting into bidding on every $50 player this year. Also prospects can be traded for big returns in this league mid-season, I got Jones last year for Arenado for example. So Buxton stays over Holliday $28, Garza $4, and Byrd $1. I chose Jones over $30 Year 3 Jay Bruce because of the average component. Most teams come into the draft with team salaries lower than $90, some around $60 so the auction inflation for big players is ridiculous. Last year was the most I ever spent on one player, $37 Jose Reyes.
gotta send Alvarez back, Holliday or Bruce instead if prices get that inflated. My head says Bruce, but my sanity says Holliday. Owning Bruce is a test of will. Nice squad though.

 
I don't love Alvarez either, but $7 is pretty cheap for 30+ homers and a 3Bman. If he was an OFer, I'd send him back.

 
Oh. I thought you meant the Detroit pitcher. Ha!

Not going to argue with him then. Don't like him either, but he will turn a profit at that rate. Just limits the pickings in the auction as difficult to get by with more than one avg anchor, but it's manageable.

 
Oh. I thought you meant the Detroit pitcher. Ha!

Not going to argue with him then. Don't like him either, but he will turn a profit at that rate. Just limits the pickings in the auction as difficult to get by with more than one avg anchor, but it's manageable.
Oops, crap...Pedro. Yeah this draft is weird and I always go in targeting a big player, and then I just can't pull the trigger on $45 Carlos Gonzalez or whatever. There ends up being a ton of value once those big guys are gone and I'm a VBD guy in fantasy anyway, so keeping Jones eliminates the hassle. People may think the auction will be less fun then, but I say I'm better off because I'm just watching and waiting for buys.

 
dparker713 said:
MAC_32 said:
MAC_32 said:
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Brandon Phillips - 2B

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP

Matt Moore - SP

Homer Bailey - SP

Rafeal Soriano -RP
Need help deciding on who to keep this year, need to keep six:

5x5: Runs, HR, RBI, BA, SB and W, ERA, K, Saves, WHIP

10-team H2H

Jose Bautista - OF

Matt Holliday - OF

Edwin Encarnacion - 1B/DH - played him as my 3B last year but ESPN does not have listed there as of now

Joe Mauer - 1B/DH

Adam Wainwright - SP

Gio Gonzalez- SP
dont agree with Mauer, even if it is a two c league. Keep Phillips.
respond to this post without acting like a ##### and I will answer your question.
I'll respond, why on Earth would you want to keep Phillips over Mauer? He's not going to have Choo to drive in and if his RBI total isn't artificially inflated, he's not particularly useful.
i think he will bat between Votto and Bruce. Given his periphs and babip I think he was unlucky with average. I don't see the speed coming back, but no reason he can't repeat last year if he bats fourth.Mauer is in a lousy offense, if he plays 140 games (can't ignore concussion risk) his counting stats may total 160, he doesn't run anymore, and he's looking at 10 homers. He won't help anywhere outside of average. If he plays all year.

I am very risk adverse when building the foundation of my team. The downside for Phillips is a lot better than the downside to Mauer and his upside is much higher. I get more creative, roll more dice, and am generally impatient as I get to the second half of my roster. Total opposite with the front half.
Except Dusty is gone and the new manager has already said his preferred batting order would be Votto 3rd and Bruce 4th. And his peripherals show more fly balls, less line drives, and more swings and misses. Plus his ISO has been trending down for several years. Phillips is a prime candidate to fall off a cliff. Meanwhile, the cliff at C is a lot lower, so Mauer has to fall a lot more to reach it.

 
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Gotta pick 4 from below. I can keep for 2 or 3 years. No contract.

$260 auction 12 team H2H 5x5(obp)

CI / MI / 5OF / 1UT

$14 2B Brandon Phillips, Cin

$37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det

$17 3B David Wright, NYM

$13 OF Carlos Beltran, NYY

$8 OF Hunter Pence, SF

$8 OF Carlos Gomez, Mil

$13 OF Shin-Soo Choo, Tex

$36 OF Matt Kemp, LAD

$1 1B Matt Adams, StL

$1 SS Jean Segura, Mil

$1 OF Michael Cuddyer, Col

$16 P Aroldis Chapman, Cin

$17 P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh

$2 SP Chris Sale, CWS

 
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Gotta pick 4 from below. I can keep for 2 or 3 years. No contract.

$260 auction 12 team H2H 5x5(obp)

CI / MI / 5OF / 1UT

$14 2B Brandon Phillips, Cin

$37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det

$17 3B David Wright, NYM

$13 OF Carlos Beltran, NYY

$8 OF Hunter Pence, SF

$8 OF Carlos Gomez, Mil

$13 OF Shin-Soo Choo, Tex

$36 OF Matt Kemp, LAD

$1 1B Matt Adams, StL

$1 SS Jean Segura, Mil

$1 OF Michael Cuddyer, Col

$16 P Aroldis Chapman, Cin

$17 P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh

$2 SP Chris Sale, CWS
Miggy, Sale, Segura, and either Choo/Gomez, depending on how you feel about those two.

 
Gotta pick 4 from below. I can keep for 2 or 3 years. No contract.

$260 auction 12 team H2H 5x5(obp)

CI / MI / 5OF / 1UT

$14 2B Brandon Phillips, Cin

$37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det

$17 3B David Wright, NYM

$13 OF Carlos Beltran, NYY

$8 OF Hunter Pence, SF

$8 OF Carlos Gomez, Mil

$13 OF Shin-Soo Choo, Tex

$36 OF Matt Kemp, LAD

$1 1B Matt Adams, StL

$1 SS Jean Segura, Mil

$1 OF Michael Cuddyer, Col

$16 P Aroldis Chapman, Cin

$17 P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh

$2 SP Chris Sale, CWS
Sale and Segura for sure. I'd say Choo is next since it's an OBP league. Probably Miggy for the last spot. It's tough though since both Gomez and Cuddyer are bargains.

 
I'm in a 12 team keeper, keep 9-12 players. I have my 12 guys selected but now it comes down to having more money at the draft. I'm at $124 with 12 keepers, 7 hitters and 5 pitchers. $260 cap.

I can keep Sergio Romo for $7 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $2. I can keep Fister at $9 for two more years, or option him for 2014 at $4. Keep in mind an average closer in this league goes for $12 and also that I have Jansen and Janssen as keepers already. Starting pitching can be had at a reasonable price, the top hitters go in the $40s and usually good starters can be had for $10-$15.

Would you keep or option those two? TIA.
Given the situation you described, I'd keep Romo for two years at $7 and option Fister. Sounds like the $9 price tag isn't much of a bargain for him.

 
Gotta pick 4 from below. I can keep for 2 or 3 years. No contract.

$260 auction 12 team H2H 5x5(obp)

CI / MI / 5OF / 1UT

$14 2B Brandon Phillips, Cin

$37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det

$17 3B David Wright, NYM

$13 OF Carlos Beltran, NYY

$8 OF Hunter Pence, SF

$8 OF Carlos Gomez, Mil

$13 OF Shin-Soo Choo, Tex

$36 OF Matt Kemp, LAD

$1 1B Matt Adams, StL

$1 SS Jean Segura, Mil

$1 OF Michael Cuddyer, Col

$16 P Aroldis Chapman, Cin

$17 P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh

$2 SP Chris Sale, CWS
You guys really like Segura that much? He was pretty bad in the 2nd half last year.

I was leaning Miggy, Sale, Choo, Gomez

 
Gotta pick 4 from below. I can keep for 2 or 3 years. No contract.

$260 auction 12 team H2H 5x5(obp)

CI / MI / 5OF / 1UT

$14 2B Brandon Phillips, Cin

$37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det

$17 3B David Wright, NYM

$13 OF Carlos Beltran, NYY

$8 OF Hunter Pence, SF

$8 OF Carlos Gomez, Mil

$13 OF Shin-Soo Choo, Tex

$36 OF Matt Kemp, LAD

$1 1B Matt Adams, StL

$1 SS Jean Segura, Mil

$1 OF Michael Cuddyer, Col

$16 P Aroldis Chapman, Cin

$17 P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh

$2 SP Chris Sale, CWS
You guys really like Segura that much? He was pretty bad in the 2nd half last year.

I was leaning Miggy, Sale, Choo, Gomez
You'd be fine keeping those four but Segura at $1 is a ton of value at a shallow position.

 
segura would go for nearly as much money as choo. probably a few dollars less.

but you could even overpay for choo in the auction and the combined choo and segura cost would be far less than doing it the other way.

that 1 dollar keeper cost is ridiculous

 
i think he will bat between Votto and Bruce. Given his periphs and babip I think he was unlucky with average. I don't see the speed coming back, but no reason he can't repeat last year if he bats fourth.

Mauer is in a lousy offense, if he plays 140 games (can't ignore concussion risk) his counting stats may total 160, he doesn't run anymore, and he's looking at 10 homers. He won't help anywhere outside of average. If he plays all year.

I am very risk adverse when building the foundation of my team. The downside for Phillips is a lot better than the downside to Mauer and his upside is much higher. I get more creative, roll more dice, and am generally impatient as I get to the second half of my roster. Total opposite with the front half.
Except Dusty is gone and the new manager has already said his preferred batting order would be Votto 3rd and Bruce 4th. And his peripherals show more fly balls, less line drives, and more swings and misses. Plus his ISO has been trending down for several years. Phillips is a prime candidate to fall off a cliff. Meanwhile, the cliff at C is a lot lower, so Mauer has to fall a lot more to reach it.
i think the cliff is unlikely. There are some negative trends, but not across the board. Didn't know about the new managers comments though, thank you.Gotta pick apart some of your analysis though. More fly balls is misleading. More than '12? Yes. Career? No. On par. Same with swinging strike. Ld went down, but was still above career. Hr/fb is normal, gb was actually low, and bb went up - career normal though. Yeah, his ISO is trending down, but he is still at 135 and hit 18 out for the fourth straight year. Doesn't have the profile of a guy about to go over the edge.

Even if he doesn't hit in between Votto and Bruce he is going to hit on either side of them. Counting stats will still be there, maybe a few less and less balanced, but still there. I'm having trouble picturing this lineup without him sandwiched though. New guy may want Votto-Bruce 3-4, but wants don't always come to fruition.

 
Gotta pick 4 from below. I can keep for 2 or 3 years. No contract.

$260 auction 12 team H2H 5x5(obp)

CI / MI / 5OF / 1UT

$14 2B Brandon Phillips, Cin

$37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det

$17 3B David Wright, NYM

$13 OF Carlos Beltran, NYY

$8 OF Hunter Pence, SF

$8 OF Carlos Gomez, Mil

$13 OF Shin-Soo Choo, Tex

$36 OF Matt Kemp, LAD

$1 1B Matt Adams, StL

$1 SS Jean Segura, Mil

$1 OF Michael Cuddyer, Col

$16 P Aroldis Chapman, Cin

$17 P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh

$2 SP Chris Sale, CWS
if you think you can get Miggy back for < $45 and maybe even $50 Segura, Sale, Cuddy, Gomez. Then buy Miggy back.all of those other guys will cost > $10 + keeper cost. Maybe price point similar types to Cuddy first, I'd think he is $15+ though. I bought for $1 and kept him at $9 without a second thought.
 
Gotta pick 4 from below. I can keep for 2 or 3 years. No contract.

$260 auction 12 team H2H 5x5(obp)

CI / MI / 5OF / 1UT

$14 2B Brandon Phillips, Cin

$37 3B Miguel Cabrera, Det

$17 3B David Wright, NYM

$13 OF Carlos Beltran, NYY

$8 OF Hunter Pence, SF

$8 OF Carlos Gomez, Mil

$13 OF Shin-Soo Choo, Tex

$36 OF Matt Kemp, LAD

$1 1B Matt Adams, StL

$1 SS Jean Segura, Mil

$1 OF Michael Cuddyer, Col

$16 P Aroldis Chapman, Cin

$17 P Gio Gonzalez, Wsh

$2 SP Chris Sale, CWS
You guys really like Segura that much? He was pretty bad in the 2nd half last year.I was leaning Miggy, Sale, Choo, Gomez
fatigue could be an easy explanation, very common in cases like his. Worth the risk, even if pop isn't there he is Elvis in the worst case.
 
I asked this earlier but having second thoughts about my final keeper. Im debating between Minor or Jansen. Id typically never keep closers but its a points league and i tend to value good closers higher in those types of leagues. Also im keeping two other SPs. They are projected for similar points.

 

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