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Didn't Manning just sign the largest contract in the history of the NFL? How much is guaranteed? Would they offer him that kind of cash if he was looking at a serious long-term problem?
That's a good point. Hmm
As a recovering Gonzalez fanboy, you cut me deep.
of this situation.
Didn't Redmond pretty much do that in Atlanta a few years ago halfway through the SEASON?
Hard to say, but Minnesota cut McKinney because he was a fat slob and he gets a 2 year contract a few days later with a better team. Obviously, the Colts think that Collins is better than what they have at backup QB.
A player with that much experience. Yes, depending on what kind of shape he is in. He will be rusty, but he'll be OK.
Exactly. Collins at QB will probably be a disaster. The signing happened because Manning's rehab has not gone as well as expected and because, even at this late stage, Collins should be less of a disaster than Painter. For fantasy, the Colts are not a plug-and-play offense; they're a below average offense carried by a legendary QB. You should have already been avoiding Wayne, but we'll have to see how far everyone else is sliding before we know whether anyone else is a value here. Unless Manning starts the season on PUP, he should still be able to carry the offense at some point before midseason, so the Colts receivers should still be valuable.
Yea, this is going to be a huge issue behind that oline. While it has been apparent that the Colts oline sucks at run blocking, Manning's lightning quick release hides the fact that this isn't a a good pass blocking line either. I can see Collins getting killed behind that line.Finally, factor in that without Manning the Colts aren't just losing their qb, but also essentially their offensive coordinator too.
Does this bump Collie's and Clark's value if Manning misses more than a few games
Yep. Some concern with Manning but really they just need a competitent backup.
That outlines how grave this situation is for Colts fantasy relevant starters. You all remember when the Colts would rest their starters when they locked up home field advantage just in time for the fantasy playoffs? It's why you used to have a good backup plan in place when taking Peyton Manning. They always would rest him and the backups would come on and if they won, they won sloppy, low scoring games. That is what the Colts will look like out of the gate without Mannning.
Had to read that twice. I think my stomach just sank......
Absolutely. It bumps their value DOWN. WAY DOWN.
Can he start? Sure.Will the Texans destroy the Colts? Yep. Too bad Mario isn't a DE anymore, but expect a big day.
Redman knew Petrino's playbook going in, though.And don't forget Collins "retired" a few months ago, so he's not exactly going to be in football shape...
They're playing on the road against a Houston team that will likely hang a bunch of points. I fully expect the Colts to be losing big and throwing the entire second half. Not sure how you can bench Reggie Wayne in this scenario... even with Collins throwing the ball. He'll be in my Week 1 lineup.
Hanging your first week hopes on the promise of garbage points isn't a good strategy, especially since for all we know, Collins has been sitting on his couch all summer. I've got Clark and Collie; and I'm highly worried. Our teams aside, the Colts are DOA without Manning. Anyone reading this thread should have the common sense to avoid all Colts players, unless Wayne magically falls to you in the 15th round.
I don't see how losing Manning helps anyone's fantasy value, except for the opposing defenses'.
Just saying... I've seen WRs with MUCH LESS talent than Reggie Wayne put up serious garbage time numbers in losing efforts with suspect QBs throwing to them. Plus, most people who have Reggie Wayne drafted him as a WR2, maybe even a WR1 depending on their strategy. How can you justify benching your top drafted players in Week 1? I mean I know Manning is great and the Colts will suck without him. But we're talking fantasy football here, not real football. Personally, I'd rather roll the dice in Week 1 with a guy I drafted to be my starter. Watching Reggie Wayne go for 3 catches for 40 yards in my starting lineup would be a lot easier to stomach than watching him go for 9 catches for 140 yards on my bench the first week of the season.
That's very true, in redraft you obviously started him to be one of your top two receivers, so you have to roll with him. I'm just concerned that in that first week alone, a Colts team without Manning will be decimated by a vastly improved Texans defense. I think the absence of Manning will make it apparent just how much the rest of this team is truly void of talent. Wayne isn't an elite receiver, and even Clark's presence is questionable. I regret drafting him; should have spent more time considering Manning's injury than assuming yet another high-pass season for the Colts.
You believe that Mr Peyton Manning wouldn't have received proper treatment from some of the best doctors in America, instead waiting on team doctors? Ummm.. no?
I agree. I won't be surprised if Curtis Painter is Peyton's backup when the season starts.
