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Kerry Collins to Titans? (1 Viewer)

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Just heard on ESPN that the Titans are going to sign Kerry Collins if Steve McNair goes elsewhere. I am not impressed with Collins, and I know that the Titans are not an offensive jugernaut, but does he have any fantasy value??????

 
Collins has the big arm and is about as mobile as an average block of cement. The Titans will start one new tackle (replacing Hopkins) and a new center - albeit perhaps an upgrade over the last one.

Collins spent most of last year dumping off to LaMont Jordan - he should be able to dump off to the TEs as well. he had a 53% completion percentage (25% of which were dump offs to Jordan) with a 20 to 13 TD/INT ratio

I'd say that he might have a few more yards than McNair did (given Givens>Brandon Jones or Courtney Roby) but a lot more sacks.

:2cents:

 
I'm just hoping KKK lands somewhere. he's my #2 on one of my teams and I've spent weeks hoping for him to land somewhere.

I was hoping Baltimore because of the Fassel connection, but I'll deal with anything that gets me more than a zero during my bye week.

 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?

 
I'm just hoping KKK lands somewhere. he's my #2 on one of my teams and I've spent weeks hoping for him to land somewhere.

I was hoping Baltimore because of the Fassel connection, but I'll deal with anything that gets me more than a zero during my bye week.
I've got that beat: He's my #2 to Mike Vick and I was counting on several years of solid, if unspectacular fantasy performances to balance out Vick's highs and lows. :cry:
 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?
This seems odd to me too. Even if McNair goes and they sign Young or Leinart one would think that Volek could be a mentor for a couple of years on the outside, probably more like a year realistically. So would it be Collins and Volek battling it out for #1 and the rook at #3? :loco:
 
I'm just hoping KKK lands somewhere. he's my #2 on one of my teams and I've spent weeks hoping for him to land somewhere.

I was hoping Baltimore because of the Fassel connection, but I'll deal with anything that gets me more than a zero during my bye week.
I've got that beat: He's my #2 to Mike Vick and I was counting on several years of solid, if unspectacular fantasy performances to balance out Vick's highs and lows. :cry:
My other 2 QB's are the fraBULGERile and Martin combo fro St looie.(I did trade Big Ben last year for what turned out to be the 1.11 rookie pick in 2006. DOH!)

 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?
This seems odd to me too. Even if McNair goes and they sign Young or Leinart one would think that Volek could be a mentor for a couple of years on the outside, probably more like a year realistically. So would it be Collins and Volek battling it out for #1 and the rook at #3? :loco:
Maybe they saw last year that Voleks initial moment in the sun was just a fluke?(50 of 88 for 474. 4 TDs and 2 INT in 2005). Maybe Volek does not really understand Chow's version of the offense?

 
No one will be more pi$$ed off than me if that happens.

That having been said, I see NO truth to the rumor.
FWIW.............This was on the Sportscenter NFL Draft Special.......Michael Smith reported it.I did not make it up.

 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?
This seems odd to me too. Even if McNair goes and they sign Young or Leinart one would think that Volek could be a mentor for a couple of years on the outside, probably more like a year realistically. So would it be Collins and Volek battling it out for #1 and the rook at #3? :loco:
Maybe they saw last year that Voleks initial moment in the sun was just a fluke?(50 of 88 for 474. 4 TDs and 2 INT in 2005). Maybe Volek does not really understand Chow's version of the offense?
Cmon he played 1 game i think and with most of the offense injured , give the guy a break.
 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?
This seems odd to me too. Even if McNair goes and they sign Young or Leinart one would think that Volek could be a mentor for a couple of years on the outside, probably more like a year realistically. So would it be Collins and Volek battling it out for #1 and the rook at #3? :loco:
Maybe they saw last year that Voleks initial moment in the sun was just a fluke?(50 of 88 for 474. 4 TDs and 2 INT in 2005). Maybe Volek does not really understand Chow's version of the offense?
Cmon he played 1 game i think and with most of the offense injured , give the guy a break.
I don't understand the whole "Volek is crap!" sentiment either.It wasn't much more than a year ago and plenty of people thought Volek as good enough to fight for a starting position somewhere based on 8 starts and a QB rating of 87. Last year the guy gets one start and has a QB rating of 77 and suddenly everyone thinks he should consider himself lucky to be in the league.

 
So would it be Collins and Volek battling it out for #1 and the rook at #3? :loco:
Why the "loco"?I think it's crazy to throw rookie QBs into action especially by teams that can't protect them. If I were a TEN fan I'd much rather have Collins/Volek as my starter and let Leinart come in off the bench in limited action rather than be thrown to the wolves if there's a QB injury and have the rookie QB with a ton of $ invested playing behind a suspect line. Alex Smith would probably agree with me.

What ever happened to letting a rookie QB go slow and adjust to the speed of the NFL for a season?

 
Collins has the big arm and is about as mobile as an average block of cement. The Titans will start one new tackle (replacing Hopkins) and a new center - albeit perhaps an upgrade over the last one.

Collins spent most of last year dumping off to LaMont Jordan - he should be able to dump off to the TEs as well. he had a 53% completion percentage (25% of which were dump offs to Jordan) with a 20 to 13 TD/INT ratio

I'd say that he might have a few more yards than McNair did (given Givens>Brandon Jones or Courtney Roby) but a lot more sacks.

:2cents:
this is an insult to the mobility of blocks of cement everywhere!
 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?
This seems odd to me too. Even if McNair goes and they sign Young or Leinart one would think that Volek could be a mentor for a couple of years on the outside, probably more like a year realistically. So would it be Collins and Volek battling it out for #1 and the rook at #3? :loco:
Maybe they saw last year that Voleks initial moment in the sun was just a fluke?(50 of 88 for 474. 4 TDs and 2 INT in 2005). Maybe Volek does not really understand Chow's version of the offense?
Cmon he played 1 game i think and with most of the offense injured , give the guy a break.
88 pass attempts in one game - must have been one heck of a game...Volek played more than just sparingly in three games, all losses by a combined score of 33 to 84. In those three games he never had a completion percentage higher than 58. Maybe he just ain't that good?

 
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If Collins had NO value passing to MOss, he has no value anywhere- He will be a career backup from here on
You do realize before the SD game(when Moss got injured) Collins qb rating was 94.5, 92.9, 99.8 and 88.7 in the first four games of the season?
 
If Collins had NO value passing to MOss, he has no value anywhere- He will be a career backup from here on
In my leagues Collins was the 10th highest scoring qb last year - that would make him a marginal starter in a 10-12 team league, decent in a 16 team league and golden in a 32 team league. Wasn't Moss decoy most of the games anyway (he'd catch a few bombs and then disappear).I think you are being a bit harsh here

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.
well you are the first person to associate that to this thread and I don't think it's a lock like you do. And Volek might be traded but I doubt he'd be released.
 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be

released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.
well you are the first person to associate that to this thread and I don't think it's a lock like you do. And Volek might be traded but I doubt he'd be released.
There arent alot of people knowledable about the Titans here. WMI hasnt commented. People are still drooling over Volek's 2004 season without realizing how horrible he is, or that the Titans are disinterested in keeping him in the present or in the future.

 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?
This seems odd to me too. Even if McNair goes and they sign Young or Leinart one would think that Volek could be a mentor for a couple of years on the outside, probably more like a year realistically. So would it be Collins and Volek battling it out for #1 and the rook at #3? :loco:
Maybe they saw last year that Voleks initial moment in the sun was just a fluke?(50 of 88 for 474. 4 TDs and 2 INT in 2005). Maybe Volek does not really understand Chow's version of the offense?
Cmon he played 1 game i think and with most of the offense injured , give the guy a break.
88 pass attempts in one game - must have been one heck of a game...Volek played more than just sparingly in three games, all losses by a combined score of 33 to 84. In those three games he never had a completion percentage higher than 58. Maybe he just ain't that good?
:goodposting:
 
Why did they sign Volek to an extension if they didn't think he could be the starter? Didn't he get better than backup money?
Because they signed him after the 2003 season when he only had one career start?He got slightly above average backup money, when they thought he was the QB of the future. The team does NOT think that now.

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be

released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.
well you are the first person to associate that to this thread and I don't think it's a lock like you do. And Volek might be traded but I doubt he'd be released.
There arent alot of people knowledable about the Titans here. WMI hasnt commented. People are still drooling over Volek's 2004 season without realizing how horrible he is, or that the Titans are disinterested in keeping him in the present or in the future.
Well that's interesting to hear. I appreciate the contrarian viewpoint.The Titan fans I asssociate with go on and on about how good he is/was and how they could easily get a 1st for him. :rolleyes:

While I didn't fall for that I did believe he was somewhat in their plans at least as a stopgap while a rook developed, ala Chris Chandler.

But if what you say is true, a Collins signing, and a Leinart drafting, make a lot more sense.

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be

released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.
well you are the first person to associate that to this thread and I don't think it's a lock like you do. And Volek might be traded but I doubt he'd be released.
There arent alot of people knowledable about the Titans here. WMI hasnt commented. People are still drooling over Volek's 2004 season without realizing how horrible he is, or that the Titans are disinterested in keeping him in the present or in the future.
Well that's interesting to hear. I appreciate the contrarian viewpoint.The Titan fans I asssociate with go on and on about how good he is/was and how they could easily get a 1st for him. :rolleyes:

While I didn't fall for that I did believe he was somewhat in their plans at least as a stopgap while a rook developed, ala Chris Chandler.

But if what you say is true, a Collins signing, and a Leinart drafting, make a lot more sense.
I think the Titans are willing to stick Volek in there for 5-6 games and let Leinart get ready, but under no circumstances will he be the QB there for an entire season.I also think the Titans would LOVE an upgrade to Kerry Collins (depending on price of course) and would love to have him QB for a year while a Leinart or especially Young watches for a year.

The rumor of a Collins' signing (assuming its true, big assumption) says to me they are considering Young at 3, and need a solid veteran QB who can play for a year, perhaps even two, and keep the team competitive while Young develops.

 
Just heard on ESPN that the Titans are going to sign Kerry Collins if Steve McNair goes elsewhere. I am not impressed with Collins, and I know that the Titans are not an offensive jugernaut, but does he have any fantasy value??????
:lmao:
 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be

released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.
well you are the first person to associate that to this thread and I don't think it's a lock like you do. And Volek might be traded but I doubt he'd be released.
There arent alot of people knowledable about the Titans here. WMI hasnt commented. People are still drooling over Volek's 2004 season without realizing how horrible he is, or that the Titans are disinterested in keeping him in the present or in the future.
Sorry, I can't even comment on such a thing as signing Kerry Collins. I may be out in left field but I don't think it has anything to it.
 
It seems almost like a done deal that McNair is going to be a Raven. If that doesn't happen, Collins will end up in Balt.

But assuming it does happen, Collins is really a man without a job anywhere. Would Tennessee want a Volek-Collins competition, with the winner keeping the seat warm for a year (or 10-12 games, more likely) until Young/Leinart takes over?

Collins won't cost much, that's for sure.

 
It seems almost like a done deal that McNair is going to be a Raven. If that doesn't happen, Collins will end up in Balt.

But assuming it does happen, Collins is really a man without a job anywhere. Would Tennessee want a Volek-Collins competition, with the winner keeping the seat warm for a year (or 10-12 games, more likely) until Young/Leinart takes over?

Collins won't cost much, that's for sure.
I'd rather have Volek or Boller.
 
It seems almost like a done deal that McNair is going to be a Raven. If that doesn't happen, Collins will end up in Balt.

But assuming it does happen, Collins is really a man without a job anywhere. Would Tennessee want a Volek-Collins competition, with the winner keeping the seat warm for a year (or 10-12 games, more likely) until Young/Leinart takes over?

Collins won't cost much, that's for sure.
I'd rather have Volek or Boller.
Id rather have Boller, but I dont want to have to watch Volek throw his 1 yard outs all game for 16 games in 2006.
 
It seems almost like a done deal that McNair is going to be a Raven. If that doesn't happen, Collins will end up in Balt.

But assuming it does happen, Collins is really a man without a job anywhere. Would Tennessee want a Volek-Collins competition, with the winner keeping the seat warm for a year (or 10-12 games, more likely) until Young/Leinart takes over?

Collins won't cost much, that's for sure.
I'd rather have Volek or Boller.
Id rather have Boller, but I dont want to have to watch Volek throw his 1 yard outs all game for 16 games in 2006.
Dude, I can KILL on those 1 yard outs.
 
It seems almost like a done deal that McNair is going to be a Raven. If that doesn't happen, Collins will end up in Balt.

But assuming it does happen, Collins is really a man without a job anywhere. Would Tennessee want a Volek-Collins competition, with the winner keeping the seat warm for a year (or 10-12 games, more likely) until Young/Leinart takes over?

Collins won't cost much, that's for sure.
I'd rather have Volek or Boller.
Id rather have Boller, but I dont want to have to watch Volek throw his 1 yard outs all game for 16 games in 2006.
Dude, I can KILL on those 1 yard outs.
I dont think we signed David Givens to have a bunch of 7-46 games.
 
Post from a Titans board. :P

Here are some things I would rather experience than Kerry Collins as a Titan QB:1. Saw off my big toe with a steak knife.2. Sit through an Adam West film festival.3. Attend a month of insurance seminars.4. Volunteer for a tax audit.5. Let Katherine Hepburn shave my a#* with a bowie knife.6. Get a root canal from a 1st year dental student.7. Give myself mutiple paper cuts and pour lemon juice on them.8. Sit through an F Troop marathon.9. Chew on a roll of aluminum foil.10. BRING RYAN LEAF BACK!!!
 
Anyone have a link :link: besides the KFFL/ESPN linen concerning Kerry Collins coming in?  I find nothing to authenticate here in Nashville.

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This is from part of an article talking about Vince Young/Steve McNair in the Tennessean in Nashville........If McNair is released, there's no guarantee Volek would take over. One short-term solution the Titans are considering is bringing in former Raiders quarterback Kerry Collins, who is still on the market.

Tennessean article

 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.
COLLINS GETS ONE YEAR, $1.2 MILLION

A league source tells us that the contract signed by quarterback Kerry Collins with the Titans is for one year, and has a value of $1.2 million.

The guy whom Collins likely will be supplanting, Billy Volek, is due to earn a base salary of $1 million in 2006, and $1.25 million in 2007.

As explained below, the team will try to trade Volek in the near future, unless Collins comes in and completely stinks it up within the first few days of practice.

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POSTED 5:38 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 6:03 p.m. EDT, August 28, 2006

TITANS WILL SHOP VOLEK

A league source tells us that, in conjunction with the acquisition of quarterback Kerry Collins, the Tennessee Titans have agreed to attempt to trade quarterback Billy Volek, who until today was regarded as the sure-thing opening-day starter.

Per the source, the team wants to kick Collins' tires a little harder before making a move with Volek. This suggests to us that, if the Titans conclude that Collins can't get it done, he might get dumped as quickly as he arrived.

But for now it's obvious that Collins was brought in to be the starter, making Volek unnecessary. Teams that could be in the mix for Volek (and we're guessing here) include the Raiders, the 49ers, the Chargers, the Browns, the Bengals, and the Patriots.

However, the Raiders signed on Monday 57-year-old quarterback Jeff George, who had one of his most effective seasons in 1999, when paired with Randy Moss in Minnesota.
PFT.com
 
If Collins to the Titans is true, I think he ends up as the backup there, with the initial hopes of competing for the starting position.

But obviously I don't think he'd beat out Volek.
:confused: If the Titans sign Collins, Volek won't even be on the roster
:confused: and this comes from where? Trade rumors from bongo? This thread started with the supposition that Collins is rumored to be signed because McNair would be released and that is what the subsequent posts have talked about as well.

That would leave Collins and Volek on the roster.
No, it would leave Collins and the #3 draft pick on the roster.Volek would be dealt or released.
COLLINS GETS ONE YEAR, $1.2 MILLION

A league source tells us that the contract signed by quarterback Kerry Collins with the Titans is for one year, and has a value of $1.2 million.

The guy whom Collins likely will be supplanting, Billy Volek, is due to earn a base salary of $1 million in 2006, and $1.25 million in 2007.

As explained below, the team will try to trade Volek in the near future, unless Collins comes in and completely stinks it up within the first few days of practice.

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POSTED 5:38 p.m. EDT; UPDATED 6:03 p.m. EDT, August 28, 2006

TITANS WILL SHOP VOLEK

A league source tells us that, in conjunction with the acquisition of quarterback Kerry Collins, the Tennessee Titans have agreed to attempt to trade quarterback Billy Volek, who until today was regarded as the sure-thing opening-day starter.

Per the source, the team wants to kick Collins' tires a little harder before making a move with Volek. This suggests to us that, if the Titans conclude that Collins can't get it done, he might get dumped as quickly as he arrived.

But for now it's obvious that Collins was brought in to be the starter, making Volek unnecessary. Teams that could be in the mix for Volek (and we're guessing here) include the Raiders, the 49ers, the Chargers, the Browns, the Bengals, and the Patriots.

However, the Raiders signed on Monday 57-year-old quarterback Jeff George, who had one of his most effective seasons in 1999, when paired with Randy Moss in Minnesota.
PFT.com
WHy should nt we add Houston to that list .

 
Per the comment about kicking Collins' tires and releasing him if we don't like it. If the veteran is on the roster for game 1, aren't we on the hook for the full year's salary even if we release him?

 
Per the comment about kicking Collins' tires and releasing him if we don't like it. If the veteran is on the roster for game 1, aren't we on the hook for the full year's salary even if we release him?
Yes.Collins will be THE guy this year until Young is ready, we arent cutting him unless its before Sept 10th.See ya Volek, and good riddance you brittle POS.
 

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