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Keys in the Pocket - no bueno (1 Viewer)
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El Floppo
Footballguy
Not a fan of relying on what feels like a weak link for something that critical.
I know some people are fine with that. That's cool.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
I put my keys in my work bag (murse) when I get to the office in the morning. Since my truck is old school I still have to use the key to start it, but it only takes a minute to dig the key out of my bag rather than walking back into the office.
Poke_4_Life
Footballguy
I put my keys in my work bag (murse) when I get to the office in the morning. Since my truck is old school I still have to use the key to start it, but it only takes a minute to dig the key out of my bag rather than walking back into the office.
Foosball God
Foos
Curious as to why you feel like it is a weak link though? What part do you think is weak?
msommer
Footballguy
I believe we have spotted the real problem - wearing slim fit pants, thinking they look "nice"
mr. furley
Footballguy
PSA: if you run, and don't want to hold the keys or have a pocket that zips. don't tie the keying in your drawstring. one fall and i nearly punctured my golden basket. some bruising and a scratch later and i either carry or tie them in my shoes now.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
There is a positive to carrying a large amount of keys. When you drop them you are alerted by a louder noise.My key ring is my car fob, my house key, the key to my gun safe, two keys that look like house keys and two small keys that look like they should open a mailbox or something. So 4 keys out of the 7 are never used. But no way I throw them away or remove them. I mean, what if they actually open something?
The phone and the 3rd party provider providing the connection. If you don't feel like it's a weak link, that's awesome.
Foosball God
Foos
You mean bluetooth? That is pretty tried and true stable at this point. Likewise phones are pretty stable. Are you worried about hacking or something?
That's the thing. It's not just bluetooth.
It's the 3rd party company managing the relationship between the phone and the latest OS upgrade and the car company.
Bluetooth is merely the path.
But on bluetooth:
If you rely on bluetooth for a key, that's awesome for you.
I'm fine with depending on bluetooth for something as critical as headphones. If it fails, my music listening isn't as good.
I'm not fine depending on bluetooth for something as critical as a key. If it fails, I'm stranded.
It's all about "cost" and "reward" for me.
Again, not criticizing you if you choose differently. Just relaying what I choose.
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Foosball God
Foos
I'm not criticizing you either, just curious. I have yet to have a failure of any kind with either my car or my door lock, if I did it I would likely have to jump through a few hoops but it would be workable. At this point for me it is pretty low risk, my car could have an issue and I'd be stranded regardless of if I had a key. At this point is appears more likely for the former to happen than the latter.
belljr
Footballguy
Mechanical Key: Owners of cars with push-button start systems might not be aware that a mechanical key resides inside the key fob. This is so that owners can still unlock the driver’s door in cases when the car’s battery or the key fob’s battery runs out of juice, or the fob malfunctions. The key is typically accessed by pushing a button on the key fob and pulling the key out, although on some remotes, the release isn’t obvious.
Some cars have an obvious key slot on the door handle; on others, it’s hidden behind the door handle (visible when you pull the door handle out). Still others require removing a plastic cap next to the door handle to reveal the key slot underneath.
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Insoxicated
Keys are for grandpa and grandma.
Use the Lexus smart card in your wallet/money clip with your cards.
Garage door operated by car or phone app. No need for a house key (but I stash one for emergencies).
Done.
Use the Lexus smart card in your wallet/money clip with your cards.
Garage door operated by car or phone app. No need for a house key (but I stash one for emergencies).
Done.
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Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
MILLENNIALS ARE KILLING TEH KEY INDUSTRY
mr. furley
Footballguy
too many things can go wrong with keyless entry, imo.
computers are fantastic when they work. when they decide not to... you can be pretty well ####ed. at least for a while.
i'm not a fan of being stuck somewhere because 0's and 1's are misaligned and Bob in IT has to spend 3 hours overclocking my keyless entry system to match the specs on his Fortnite machine.
computers are fantastic when they work. when they decide not to... you can be pretty well ####ed. at least for a while.
i'm not a fan of being stuck somewhere because 0's and 1's are misaligned and Bob in IT has to spend 3 hours overclocking my keyless entry system to match the specs on his Fortnite machine.
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mr. furley
Footballguy
but my physical key costs like 99 cents at Home DepotLexus Wallet smart card has an emergency Backup physical key
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wilked
Footballguy
I'll say this - I hadn't considered that I really don't need to carry two fobs all day.
I'm going to get down to one fob - I will separate my key 'bundle' into two fobs (each will be a fob plus house key). Going to 'personalize' / claim it, make it clear to my wife that these are mine and she is not to use them even if she misplaces her keys.
We'll see how this works...
I'm going to get down to one fob - I will separate my key 'bundle' into two fobs (each will be a fob plus house key). Going to 'personalize' / claim it, make it clear to my wife that these are mine and she is not to use them even if she misplaces her keys.
We'll see how this works...
dino259
Footballguy
Engelberg said:
In the case of our CRV, this would allow you into the vehicle, but would not allow you to start the vehicle as I don't think there is a place to manually start the car. The push button needs to sense the fob and low or no battery fob would not send the signal. I heard a story of a friend that was able to start it by holding the fob right next to the push button.belljr said:
belljr
Footballguy
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
For those with too many keys, the keyless entry I put on my house was the best thing I've done in a long time. Love never having to carry a house key.
belljr
Footballguy
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE POWER IS OUT@#$!@$##@
And for real its not safe to leave your door to the house in your garage unlocked.
Although I get alerted on my phone when my garage opens so thieves are not going to open garage /close it and rob we blind without alarms going off
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mr. furley
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
i chain dogs to the garage door. and if those fail, the bees get any intruders. and if that doesn't work then the dogs that shoot bees out of their mouths is enough to scare anyone off.
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Insoxicated
Garage door notifies me if opened. Door has an alarm that notifies me when triggered. Contents of house are insured.
Most home break-ins are kicking in front or back doors. Both are fortified. Not too worried about it.
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Fat Nick
Footballguy
I'm pretty far into the minimalist carry at this point.
For keys, I carry the Volvo "sport" key for my XC90 - It's about the size of a thumb drive, with a small lanyard attached. No house keys as we use keypads. It's as small as I can get. Fits easily in my front pocket, don't even realize it's there. For my wallet, I've got a Bellroy Slim Sleeve wallet, which is absolutely tiny. Roughly the size of a pack of sticky-notes.
BUT...If Apple pay was accepted everywhere, and they could get my Driver's license and insurance card on my phone, I'd stop carrying a wallet altogether.
For keys, I carry the Volvo "sport" key for my XC90 - It's about the size of a thumb drive, with a small lanyard attached. No house keys as we use keypads. It's as small as I can get. Fits easily in my front pocket, don't even realize it's there. For my wallet, I've got a Bellroy Slim Sleeve wallet, which is absolutely tiny. Roughly the size of a pack of sticky-notes.
BUT...If Apple pay was accepted everywhere, and they could get my Driver's license and insurance card on my phone, I'd stop carrying a wallet altogether.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
I have to admit, I never realized what an inconvenience my keys were. Thank goodness for the FFA.
skol asylum
Footballguy
skol asylum
Footballguy
Not sure how th CRV compares, but with my Sonata you take the key fob itself and insert the whole thing into a slot in the center console. Then the push start works. I imagine there are similar options for other key fobbed cars.
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Insoxicated
My front door is locked, with a Glass security/storm door that remains locked 95% of time.
The side gate to access my back yard is locked. The back door is locked.
The door between my garage and my kitchen does not stay locked. It is armed with an alarm, and my garage door is tethered to my phone so as soon as it is opened (by normal means or forced) I am notified.
The number of break-ins through Forced entry of a garage in this area are absolutely trivial. Kick ins of front or back doors are the VAST majority here (and pretty much everywhere).
So, yes... my house is locked, by the garage door. I’m comfortable with the minuscule “risk” of forced entry by garage.
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bentley
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TheIronSheik
SUPER ELITE UPPER TIER
If I had a time machine, I wouldn't waste my time going places to see things. I would spend my time grabbing people from the past and bringing them back here to see what people complain about these days. 
"That's right, Jebidiah. I know 3 of your kids died of smallpox and 2 died from a cold. And your family hasn't eaten in a week. But that gentleman has to carry a tiny piece of metal in his pocket for up to 8 hours, some days. A horrible travesty. Now let me show you another person who threatened to kill another human because the place where they get cheap, fast food ran out of a chicken sandwich. What's that? No. No, actually, there's plenty of chicken everywhere. In fact, at the stores on both sides of this one, you can still get chicken sandwiches fast and cheap. You see, he was mad because it was a certain kind of chicken. Makes more sense now, right?"
"That's right, Jebidiah. I know 3 of your kids died of smallpox and 2 died from a cold. And your family hasn't eaten in a week. But that gentleman has to carry a tiny piece of metal in his pocket for up to 8 hours, some days. A horrible travesty. Now let me show you another person who threatened to kill another human because the place where they get cheap, fast food ran out of a chicken sandwich. What's that? No. No, actually, there's plenty of chicken everywhere. In fact, at the stores on both sides of this one, you can still get chicken sandwiches fast and cheap. You see, he was mad because it was a certain kind of chicken. Makes more sense now, right?"
AAABatteries
Footballguy
98% of the time one of the other 5 people in the house will be there to let me in. The other 2% I don’t care about.
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Jebediah, "Even the poorest of the poor can afford milk and honey every day of the week? Hallelujah!"If I had a time machine, I wouldn't waste my time going places to see things. I would spend my time grabbing people from the past and bringing them back here to see what people complain about these days.
"That's right, Jebidiah. I know 3 of your kids died of smallpox and 2 died from a cold. And your family hasn't eaten in a week. But that gentleman has to carry a tiny piece of metal in his pocket for up to 8 hours, some days. A horrible travesty. Now let me show you another person who threatened to kill another human because the place where they get cheap, fast food ran out of a chicken sandwich. What's that? No. No, actually, there's plenty of chicken everywhere. In fact, at the stores on both sides of this one, you can still get chicken sandwiches fast and cheap. You see, he was mad because it was a certain kind of chicken. Makes more sense now, right?"
