Kicker Battles (1 Viewer)

[redman]

Gostkowski sure looked good this weekend. Gramatica looked bored on the sidelines.

My understanding was that that was planned, meaning Grammatica got the kicks in the first game and Gostkowski got the FG kicking duties in the 2nd game.

 

[aposulli]

Gostkowski sure looked good this weekend. Gramatica looked bored on the sidelines.

My understanding was that that was planned, meaning Grammatica got the kicks in the first game and Gostkowski got the FG kicking duties in the 2nd game.

BB made it sound as if Gostkowski's got the job. Looks that way to everyone here in N.E.Count on Grammatica getting a tryout with GB in the not-so-distant future.

 

[redman]

Gostkowski sure looked good this weekend. Gramatica looked bored on the sidelines.

My understanding was that that was planned, meaning Grammatica got the kicks in the first game and Gostkowski got the FG kicking duties in the 2nd game.

BB made it sound as if Gostkowski's got the job. Looks that way to everyone here in N.E.Count on Grammatica getting a tryout with GB in the not-so-distant future.

Ok, then the situation's changed. As a Gostkowski owner, I'm cool with that.

 

[AB in DC]

Gostkowski sure looked good this weekend. Gramatica looked bored on the sidelines.

My understanding was that that was planned, meaning Grammatica got the kicks in the first game and Gostkowski got the FG kicking duties in the 2nd game.

Both of them had FG attempts in the first game.

 

[SammyJankis]

While its possible, I had assumed that the Pats wouldn't keep both kickers. I can remember a couple of instances of this, but its fairly rare as the coach doesn't want to eat up two roster spots. Usually happens when you have a seasoned vet that is money on field goals of <40 yards, but doesn't get great distance on kickoffs.

Pats traded kickers on FG attempts in preseason game 1. My thought was that whoever started the second preseason game was clearly the front runner.

With Gostkowski kicking FGs well, I figured it might be as good as over. If Gotskowski can kickoff and hit FGs, then the Pats have all they need from one guy. If Grammatica was the better FG kicker, they Pats would have to consider keeping both guys or living with Grammatica's kickoff distance. (Or who knows, maybe letting the punter kickoff?)

Also there are several teams starving for a kicker right now. (GB comes to mind) So it seems like if the Pats feel Gostkowski is the guy, they might do Grammatica a favor by letting him catch on somewhere else.

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

 

[redman]

While its possible, I had assumed that the Pats wouldn't keep both kickers. I can remember a couple of instances of this, but its fairly rare as the coach doesn't want to eat up two roster spots. Usually happens when you have a seasoned vet that is money on field goals of <40 yards, but doesn't get great distance on kickoffs.

Pats traded kickers on FG attempts in preseason game 1. My thought was that whoever started the second preseason game was clearly the front runner.

With Gostkowski kicking FGs well, I figured it might be as good as over. If Gotskowski can kickoff and hit FGs, then the Pats have all they need from one guy. If Grammatica was the better FG kicker, they Pats would have to consider keeping both guys or living with Grammatica's kickoff distance. (Or who knows, maybe letting the punter kickoff?)

Also there are several teams starving for a kicker right now. (GB comes to mind) So it seems like if the Pats feel Gostkowski is the guy, they might do Grammatica a favor by letting him catch on somewhere else.

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

The bolded part was what I understood the situation to be; I guess the situation is changing to what the Pats would ideally want: the younger, stronger-legged kicker who can handle kickoffs and who they spend a draft pick on is accurate enough to justify giving him all of the kicking duties.

 

[SammyJankis]

While its possible, I had assumed that the Pats wouldn't keep both kickers. I can remember a couple of instances of this, but its fairly rare as the coach doesn't want to eat up two roster spots. Usually happens when you have a seasoned vet that is money on field goals of <40 yards, but doesn't get great distance on kickoffs.

Pats traded kickers on FG attempts in preseason game 1. My thought was that whoever started the second preseason game was clearly the front runner.

With Gostkowski kicking FGs well, I figured it might be as good as over. If Gotskowski can kickoff and hit FGs, then the Pats have all they need from one guy. If Grammatica was the better FG kicker, they Pats would have to consider keeping both guys or living with Grammatica's kickoff distance. (Or who knows, maybe letting the punter kickoff?)

Also there are several teams starving for a kicker right now. (GB comes to mind) So it seems like if the Pats feel Gostkowski is the guy, they might do Grammatica a favor by letting him catch on somewhere else.

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

The bolded part was what I understood the situation to be; I guess the situation is changing to what the Pats would ideally want: the younger, stronger-legged kicker who can handle kickoffs and who they spend a draft pick on is accurate enough to justify giving him all of the kicking duties.

Who knows? Certainlly still possible. Sometimes when kicker's go with the young strong-legged kicker they regret it several games in.I remember when the Vikings made Aaron Elling the guy due to his strong kickoffs a year or two ago. However his field goal misadventures quickly had the Vikings rethinking that decision.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

While its possible, I had assumed that the Pats wouldn't keep both kickers. I can remember a couple of instances of this, but its fairly rare as the coach doesn't want to eat up two roster spots. Usually happens when you have a seasoned vet that is money on field goals of <40 yards, but doesn't get great distance on kickoffs.

Pats traded kickers on FG attempts in preseason game 1. My thought was that whoever started the second preseason game was clearly the front runner.

With Gostkowski kicking FGs well, I figured it might be as good as over. If Gotskowski can kickoff and hit FGs, then the Pats have all they need from one guy. If Grammatica was the better FG kicker, they Pats would have to consider keeping both guys or living with Grammatica's kickoff distance. (Or who knows, maybe letting the punter kickoff?)

Also there are several teams starving for a kicker right now. (GB comes to mind) So it seems like if the Pats feel Gostkowski is the guy, they might do Grammatica a favor by letting him catch on somewhere else.

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

The bolded part was what I understood the situation to be; I guess the situation is changing to what the Pats would ideally want: the younger, stronger-legged kicker who can handle kickoffs and who they spend a draft pick on is accurate enough to justify giving him all of the kicking duties.

Having him as a starting NFL K for fantasy (Top 12) seems risky to me.1. He kicked in Memphis - hardly Foxboro.

2. His leg has been questioned before, but it does look fine in the preseason.

3. Adam Vinatieri's shadow / "legend" may add extra pressure. NE is supposed to win, and many games hinged on AV's performances.

There's lots of pressure on him. I would take him as a late 2nd K, but not higher. I'd have him ranked around #20 and watch from there.

 

[redman]

While its possible, I had assumed that the Pats wouldn't keep both kickers. I can remember a couple of instances of this, but its fairly rare as the coach doesn't want to eat up two roster spots. Usually happens when you have a seasoned vet that is money on field goals of <40 yards, but doesn't get great distance on kickoffs.

Pats traded kickers on FG attempts in preseason game 1. My thought was that whoever started the second preseason game was clearly the front runner.

With Gostkowski kicking FGs well, I figured it might be as good as over. If Gotskowski can kickoff and hit FGs, then the Pats have all they need from one guy. If Grammatica was the better FG kicker, they Pats would have to consider keeping both guys or living with Grammatica's kickoff distance. (Or who knows, maybe letting the punter kickoff?)

Also there are several teams starving for a kicker right now. (GB comes to mind) So it seems like if the Pats feel Gostkowski is the guy, they might do Grammatica a favor by letting him catch on somewhere else.

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

The bolded part was what I understood the situation to be; I guess the situation is changing to what the Pats would ideally want: the younger, stronger-legged kicker who can handle kickoffs and who they spend a draft pick on is accurate enough to justify giving him all of the kicking duties.

Having him as a starting NFL K for fantasy (Top 12) seems risky to me.1. He kicked in Memphis - hardly Foxboro.

2. His leg has been questioned before, but it does look fine in the preseason.

3. Adam Vinatieri's shadow / "legend" may add extra pressure. NE is supposed to win, and many games hinged on AV's performances.

There's lots of pressure on him. I would take him as a late 2nd K, but not higher. I'd have him ranked around #20 and watch from there.

I took him at 7.08, 88 overall, in our 14-team IDP draft, so I'm not sweating over this but I was hopeful that it would pan out obviously.

 

[aposulli]

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

Tough to expect much more than what guys like Nugent and Kaeding have done in their Rookie years in recent seasons.

 

[AB in DC]

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

Tough to expect much more than what guys like Nugent and Kaeding have done in their Rookie years in recent seasons.

In what sense? Nugent was on an awful offense, so he's not a good comparison if you're looking toward fantasy points. Kaeding seems like a reasonable benchmark.

 

[redman]

By the way Jeff: Should Gostkowski win the kicking job, where do you put him in your K projections. I have him around 10th.

Tough to expect much more than what guys like Nugent and Kaeding have done in their Rookie years in recent seasons.

In what sense? Nugent was on an awful offense, so he's not a good comparison if you're looking toward fantasy points. Kaeding seems like a reasonable benchmark.

The Pats have scored 44 offensive TD's in each of the last two seasons, with Vinatieri scoring 141 and then 100 points; the Chargers have scored 49 and 55 TD's in those years, with Kaeding scoring 113 and 114 poitns. It seems like the Pats are turning their opportunities into TD's a little less than the Chargers are, resulting in more FG's (at least potentially).

 

[BustedKnuckles]

K Mike Vanderjagt has been a camp disappointment. He has been inconsistent with his field goals and has missed time the last week because of a strained groin. On top of that, Vanderjagt has yet to even try to kickoff. He has not kicked off since 2003. Coach Bill Parcells wants him to kickoff in Dallas because he doesn't want to use a roster spot on an extra kicker. The Cowboys plan to test him on kickoffs in the third preseason game against the 49ers.

vanderjerk is just battling himself

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

K Mike Vanderjagt has been a camp disappointment. He has been inconsistent with his field goals and has missed time the last week because of a strained groin. On top of that, Vanderjagt has yet to even try to kickoff. He has not kicked off since 2003. Coach Bill Parcells wants him to kickoff in Dallas because he doesn't want to use a roster spot on an extra kicker. The Cowboys plan to test him on kickoffs in the third preseason game against the 49ers.vanderjerk is just battling himself

Vandy couldn't go tonight - Suisham had the duties.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Andrus kicked for the Colts in place for Vinatieri.

RUMORS have Adam V possibly out a few weeks with a heel fracture. (No confirmation as of yet).

 

[Mike Herman]

Green Bay

The Green Bay Packers added a new potential placekicker going into the final week of the preseason. The Packers claimed kicker E.J. Cochrane off waivers from the Philadelphia Eagles. A 5-foot-11, 204-pound rookie from Montana State, Cochrane originally signed as a non-drafted free agent with the Falcons in February. He had signed with Philadelphia in April and connected on one of his two field-goal attempts, as well as his only extra-point try, in the preseason.

linkAn interesting move. Perhaps they felt they needed a camp leg for a week? Or maybe they actually want to take a look at Cochrane. Recently released Nick Novak and Jeff Chandler have some NFL experience. Rookie Connor Hughes looked good in New Orleans, and was also recently released. The team had tried out Edinger a few weeks ago.

 

[Mike Herman]

"We've been following him at school and also this training camp. We thought he was having a really good training camp and thought he was a guy we'd want to take a look at. So we have a few days here to see what's what."

- GM Ted Thompson on E.J. Cochrane