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Dude, are you serious? They just finished the most difficult part of their schedule. They are 3-3, and are starting to look like they might fight for a wildcard, and they are only 1 game back in the AFC North. They play games against St. Louis, Cincinnati, NY Jets, Buffalo, San Francisco, and Houston the rest of the way. They have the forth best offense in the league next to Dallas, NE, and Indy. I think they are looking pretty darn good!GordonGekko said:
He did post that three weeks ago before the Browns started looking like a legit NFL team.Browns Rule! said:
Ooops, I thought that was recent
My bad, I guess I'm just so excited that we now have a playoff and probable Super Bowl team that I didn't look at when that was posted.
Too bad about Young. Wonder if he can get a medical redshirt.Not much of a change this week other than a re-appearance by Sweed and a drop of Chevis Jackson. Otah keeps moving his way up.
Lets not get crazy.Ooops, I thought that was recent
He's a junior. Kiper doesn't put underclassmen on his big board until they declare.rascal said:
No he doesn't. He has drafted offense about half of the time: two TE's (traded up for Graham), a rb and an O-lineman in the first round since their first Super Bowl win. Every year people say "They have to go LB in the first this year". While this year might be different, I don't think he has ever drafted a LB on the first day at NE
Foosball God said:Lets not get crazy.Ooops, I thought that was recentMy bad, I guess I'm just so excited that we now have a playoff and probable Super Bowl team that I didn't look at when that was posted.
No kidding. Perhaps you chose your words in haste, but what you're saying is that the Browns have a better than 50/50 chance of getting to the Super Bowl over New England and Indy (not to even mention Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Tennessee, Jacksonville, San Diego, etc.....)
whats funny is if the browns were inthe NFC,they'd probably be a shoe inFoosball God said:Lets not get crazy.Ooops, I thought that was recentMy bad, I guess I'm just so excited that we now have a playoff and probable Super Bowl team that I didn't look at when that was posted.
I'd put Cleveland's chances of even making the playoffs at less than 50/50.
Matt Millen: "This is why I always go with a WR"Seriously, that's far from a ringing endorsement to pony up #1 overall money for a DT.
Evil Grin dispencing knowledge on the Browns decision to trade away Charlie Frye and insert Derek Anderson into the starting lineup after the first game of the season.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...9194&st=600Foosball God said:Lets not get crazy.Ooops, I thought that was recentNo kidding. Perhaps you chose your words in haste, but what you're saying is that the Browns have a better than 50/50 chance of getting to the Super Bowl over New England and Indy (not to even mention Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Tennessee, Jacksonville, San Diego, etc.....)
I'd put Cleveland's chances of even making the playoffs at less than 50/50.
Nice.
Seriously? Is neither McFadden, Rice, Slaton or Stewart good enough to be in the top 25?
Way to stay with posts that are relevant to the thread, buddy !Evil Grin dispencing knowledge on the Browns decision to trade away Charlie Frye and insert Derek Anderson into the starting lineup after the first game of the season.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...9194&st=600Lets not get crazy.Ooops, I thought that was recent
I'd put Cleveland's chances of even making the playoffs at less than 50/50.
Evilgrin 72
Sep 13 2007, 01:49 PM
Look at my quote - what I said was "it was about the worst set of coaching decisions I've seen in my life."
About the WORST set of coaching decisions he'd ever seen in his life.
Evil Grin never has chosen his words in haste on anything Browns related.
Err, according to him that is.
Your man-crush on me is flattering though. By the way, Anderson was terrific yesterday - if you see him, tell him I said thanks for the division title.Anyway, to get back on point here, WTF is going on with Jeff Otah? Kiper needs to chill the f--- out !
based on what? the guy hasnt played.
Compared to what I thought at the beginning of the year.
Not sure - I think he would have been a top-5 pick had he come out last year. I think Arizona may have taken him over Levi Brown.
I don't think so. The last couple games last year he looked terrible. I think he had a hamstring/knee injury or something.
If that's the case, then it probably was a good call. I just remembered hearing some people saying he would have been a top-10 pick if he came out, earlier in the season.
Otah down to #21.
I could be completely wrong on this guy, I just think he has possibly the best combination of size/speed (read : upside) of any OT prospect in the last few drafts, and that includes Robert Gallery, Joe Thomas, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
I think this is a good year for LT's, if a couple guys like Michael Oher declare.I wonder if Kiper makes his board fluid so that fans can get introduced to a number of prospects. I think he's attempting to make the draft more interesting.Otah down to #21.I could be completely wrong on this guy, I just think he has possibly the best combination of size/speed (read : upside) of any OT prospect in the last few drafts, and that includes Robert Gallery, Joe Thomas, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
So he can't even talk about the underclassmen? Until when?
my boys will take him before yours doOtah down to #21.I could be completely wrong on this guy, I just think he has possibly the best combination of size/speed (read : upside) of any OT prospect in the last few drafts, and that includes Robert Gallery, Joe Thomas, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
Until they declare. I'm not sure if it's a self-imposed rule of his or not. He never includes a prospect unless they've declared for the draft.
Gotcha. Thanks. How many of those underclassmen do you think are going to be first rounders? Who?
F that - you already got McNeill...my boys will take him before yours doOtah down to #21.I could be completely wrong on this guy, I just think he has possibly the best combination of size/speed (read : upside) of any OT prospect in the last few drafts, and that includes Robert Gallery, Joe Thomas, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
Underclassmen and how likely I personally feel it is that they'll declareRBDarren McFadden (High)Johnathan Stewart (High)WRDeSean Jackson (High)Malcolm Kelly (Medium)OLRyan Clady (High)Michael Oher (Medium)DECalais Campbell (low)Derrick Harvey (High)Vernon Gholston (high)LBJames Laurinaitis (High)CBMalcolm Jenkins (High)Reggie Smith (Medium)Aqib Talib (Low)SKenny Phillips (High)
How is Oher rated by the experts? I read that book about him last year, then never heard his name once this past season.I think this is a good year for LT's, if a couple guys like Michael Oher declare.I wonder if Kiper makes his board fluid so that fans can get introduced to a number of prospects. I think he's attempting to make the draft more interesting.Otah down to #21.I could be completely wrong on this guy, I just think he has possibly the best combination of size/speed (read : upside) of any OT prospect in the last few drafts, and that includes Robert Gallery, Joe Thomas, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
Info is sketchy. But he is a 2007 SEC First Teamer and mid-season All American by the Sporting News.Sounds like he's going to stay in school though.How is Oher rated by the experts? I read that book about him last year, then never heard his name once this past season.I think this is a good year for LT's, if a couple guys like Michael Oher declare.I wonder if Kiper makes his board fluid so that fans can get introduced to a number of prospects. I think he's attempting to make the draft more interesting.Otah down to #21.
I could be completely wrong on this guy, I just think he has possibly the best combination of size/speed (read : upside) of any OT prospect in the last few drafts, and that includes Robert Gallery, Joe Thomas, and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
I'd say the chances are medium to high. He's definitely in the 1st round conversation. He has NFL size and speed and I think that the top 3 NFL ready backs are McFadden, Stewart, and Mendenhall.
Go to the link for the rest and explanations.
For some reason, I really don't like McShay's mocks. This top 5 looks okay, though.
I'd be shocked if Laurinaitis (or any LB) went that high.
Agree. Especially to a 3-4 team.
Nope. Strictly verboten.
Isn't Kiper's stuff on ESPN all on the Insider (pay) part? I know he released a new mock too. Are we allowed to post and discuss that?
His big board isn't but his mock is. I don't think we'd want to discuss his mock even if we could.
