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RenegadeGM
Footballguy
Just imagine Koren and The Whizzinator together next season!
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
Koren is not or will ever be a punt returner.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Hard to question the move as the Vikings will probably pay him very little, with an incentive laden contract. The only thing I don't like is they tried to get rid of a headache by trading Moss, and here's another potential one w/ KRob. However, if he gets his head screwed on, a future trio of Burleson, Koren, and Williamson with Taylor and Marcus Robinson off the bench would have to be considered one of the deepest WR corps in the league. Not saying the best, just the deepest.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Someone please explain to me how Robinson would avoid a 1-year substance abuse suspension if he were to sign with a team.
Hellfire Snail
Footballguy
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Sure. He already served a 4 gamer last year for ecstasy, and I thought I read that this alchohol bust would qualify. I'll look into this a little bit...
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
From Pro Football Weekly back in June when Robinson was busted (back in June, so maybe things have been clarified since then. I'll keep looking):
PFW Commentart
PFW: What is Robinson’s future in the NFL?
Reynolds: Robinson, the ninth overall pick in the 2001 draft, has been a relative bust considering the expectations placed upon him when Robinson entered the league. There were scouts who drew physical parallels between Robinson, then a 21-year-old junior leaving North Carolina State, and Randy Moss. His body type, though, is much different than Moss’ and not as lean or tall. At 6-1, 200, Robinson did possess enough speed to make a stopwatch flash and is a tremendous all-around athlete. He can leap, has naturally soft hands and is more naturally gifted than Torry Holt. But Robinson has never been fully committed to football or himself.
There is interest in Robinson from several teams. But Robinson’s legal problems could derail his career in the interim. Robinson already has been sent to a treatment program and a DUI conviction might be considered by the NFL as a third violation of its substance-abuse policy (resulting in a one-year suspension). Just as Ricky Williams, Darrell Russell, Kerry Collins, Lawrence Phillips and others with off-the-field issues are granted second and third chances, a door will be held open for Robinson. It’s the nature of the business — like it or not. Besides, Robinson is still a kid. He turned 25 in March and is in desperate need of an adult guardian to intervene, physically and emotionally, and go well beyond what Cris Carter provided Moss in Minnesota.
PFW Commentart
PFW: What is Robinson’s future in the NFL?
Reynolds: Robinson, the ninth overall pick in the 2001 draft, has been a relative bust considering the expectations placed upon him when Robinson entered the league. There were scouts who drew physical parallels between Robinson, then a 21-year-old junior leaving North Carolina State, and Randy Moss. His body type, though, is much different than Moss’ and not as lean or tall. At 6-1, 200, Robinson did possess enough speed to make a stopwatch flash and is a tremendous all-around athlete. He can leap, has naturally soft hands and is more naturally gifted than Torry Holt. But Robinson has never been fully committed to football or himself.
There is interest in Robinson from several teams. But Robinson’s legal problems could derail his career in the interim. Robinson already has been sent to a treatment program and a DUI conviction might be considered by the NFL as a third violation of its substance-abuse policy (resulting in a one-year suspension). Just as Ricky Williams, Darrell Russell, Kerry Collins, Lawrence Phillips and others with off-the-field issues are granted second and third chances, a door will be held open for Robinson. It’s the nature of the business — like it or not. Besides, Robinson is still a kid. He turned 25 in March and is in desperate need of an adult guardian to intervene, physically and emotionally, and go well beyond what Cris Carter provided Moss in Minnesota.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
OK. Looks like he won't be suspended, though this still doesn't seem definitive. This is from John Clayton of ESPN on Aug 1.
ESPN.com
Finally realizing he has a problem with alcohol, former Seahawks wide receiver Koren Robinson has checked himself into a 30-day treatment center in South Carolina and plans to be ready for the NFL regular season as a new person.
"I've realized I've got a problem," Robinson said. "I know the path I was going down wouldn't enable me to be a successful person in life and a successful football player on the field. I had to be proactive before I got too bad."
Robinson's career and life have been spiraling out of control for the past eight months. Because of his drinking, he missed meetings late in the 2004 season and had to make a promise to seek alcohol treatment to stay on the active roster. That didn't work. Robinson finished the season on the active roster but was charged with a DUI on May 6 in Kirkland, Wa.
After pleading guilty, he ended up receiving a 365-day jail sentence in which 364 days were suspended. When he showed up for his one-day jail sentence, alcohol was allegedly detected on his breath by two detectives, a violation of his probation from the plea bargain.
That incident was the final straw. Robinson had been in denial about his problems. Last week, he checked himself into a rehab center.
"I will get out at the end of August," Robinson said. "I just know I had a problem. I was in denial for a while. Stuff had to happen to me for me to realize it before anything bad happened. I'm not ashamed of what I've done. I'm thankful it wasn't worse. But I have to put this problem in the past."
Robinson wouldn't discuss his pending legal issue. He has an Aug. 4 hearing to determine any penalty for violating his probation. Because he's at a South Carolina treatment center, he will have to postpone that hearing until late August or early September.
His plan is to sober up and be available for the 2005 season. From what Robinson has heard from the league office, he won't be subject to a year suspension even though he had a four-week suspension last year for violation of the substance policy.
"I won't be suspended, that's what I understand," Robinson said. "I will keep working out and keeping my fingers crossed someone will want to sign me. I can still play. My agent [Alvin Keels] has talked to the league and that's what they've said. There were some teams that we had been talking to and I hope they are still interested in my. First, I have to handle my business because I know I have a problem."
Robinson received treatment for his alcohol problems twice during the offseason, but until last week, Robinson hadn't entered into a 12-step program to stop his problems with alcohol.
Mike Holmgren, his former coach, made him seek help for his problems, but Robinson was in denial, which is why those other treatments failed.
"I only went into treatment then because I was pressured," Robinson said. "The first one was after the season. It was a 28-day program. It was like a detox program as opposed to a 12-step. The one I'm in now is a 30-day in-patient to get me to stay clean and sober. After the DUI, I had a five-day treatment for assessment and evaluation."
The recent incident at the Kirkland jail was his wake-up call.
"Everybody was seeing myself going down the hill, and it was like the hill just never stopped, it never flattened out," Robinson said. "This woke me up. I'm not really that type of person. The whole situation makes you see what you really have. I have a great opportunity being an NFL player. A lot of people would give an arm and a leg to be in my position. Those people go to work from eight until five just to be able to financially be able to afford a house.
"I get to play football and do something that I love to do. I've been taking it for granted. This has really humbled me. I can see that I'm not Superman and that I can't run through a wall if I want to."
Robinson almost signed with the 49ers after the Seahawks released him in early June. But the 49ers backed out of a possible deal because of timing. His availability came at a time in which the 49ers were under organizational criticism because of the public release of an inappropriate public relations tape.
"I hope teams are still interested in me," Robinson said. "I must show I can handle my business. I know I have a problem. This time, I checked myself in because I wanted to get help. Nobody was telling me to do this. I came to the realization that, 'Koren, you need help.' I've got to do what I had to do. I feel like I can be a living testimony by being able to stop this."
Robinson is a talented 26-year-old former first-round choice with the potential to be a No. 1 receiver on a team. But first, Koren Robinson had to take care of Koren Robinson.
The process started last week.
John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
ESPN.com
Finally realizing he has a problem with alcohol, former Seahawks wide receiver Koren Robinson has checked himself into a 30-day treatment center in South Carolina and plans to be ready for the NFL regular season as a new person.
"I've realized I've got a problem," Robinson said. "I know the path I was going down wouldn't enable me to be a successful person in life and a successful football player on the field. I had to be proactive before I got too bad."
Robinson's career and life have been spiraling out of control for the past eight months. Because of his drinking, he missed meetings late in the 2004 season and had to make a promise to seek alcohol treatment to stay on the active roster. That didn't work. Robinson finished the season on the active roster but was charged with a DUI on May 6 in Kirkland, Wa.
After pleading guilty, he ended up receiving a 365-day jail sentence in which 364 days were suspended. When he showed up for his one-day jail sentence, alcohol was allegedly detected on his breath by two detectives, a violation of his probation from the plea bargain.
That incident was the final straw. Robinson had been in denial about his problems. Last week, he checked himself into a rehab center.
"I will get out at the end of August," Robinson said. "I just know I had a problem. I was in denial for a while. Stuff had to happen to me for me to realize it before anything bad happened. I'm not ashamed of what I've done. I'm thankful it wasn't worse. But I have to put this problem in the past."
Robinson wouldn't discuss his pending legal issue. He has an Aug. 4 hearing to determine any penalty for violating his probation. Because he's at a South Carolina treatment center, he will have to postpone that hearing until late August or early September.
His plan is to sober up and be available for the 2005 season. From what Robinson has heard from the league office, he won't be subject to a year suspension even though he had a four-week suspension last year for violation of the substance policy.
"I won't be suspended, that's what I understand," Robinson said. "I will keep working out and keeping my fingers crossed someone will want to sign me. I can still play. My agent [Alvin Keels] has talked to the league and that's what they've said. There were some teams that we had been talking to and I hope they are still interested in my. First, I have to handle my business because I know I have a problem."
Robinson received treatment for his alcohol problems twice during the offseason, but until last week, Robinson hadn't entered into a 12-step program to stop his problems with alcohol.
Mike Holmgren, his former coach, made him seek help for his problems, but Robinson was in denial, which is why those other treatments failed.
"I only went into treatment then because I was pressured," Robinson said. "The first one was after the season. It was a 28-day program. It was like a detox program as opposed to a 12-step. The one I'm in now is a 30-day in-patient to get me to stay clean and sober. After the DUI, I had a five-day treatment for assessment and evaluation."
The recent incident at the Kirkland jail was his wake-up call.
"Everybody was seeing myself going down the hill, and it was like the hill just never stopped, it never flattened out," Robinson said. "This woke me up. I'm not really that type of person. The whole situation makes you see what you really have. I have a great opportunity being an NFL player. A lot of people would give an arm and a leg to be in my position. Those people go to work from eight until five just to be able to financially be able to afford a house.
"I get to play football and do something that I love to do. I've been taking it for granted. This has really humbled me. I can see that I'm not Superman and that I can't run through a wall if I want to."
Robinson almost signed with the 49ers after the Seahawks released him in early June. But the 49ers backed out of a possible deal because of timing. His availability came at a time in which the 49ers were under organizational criticism because of the public release of an inappropriate public relations tape.
"I hope teams are still interested in me," Robinson said. "I must show I can handle my business. I know I have a problem. This time, I checked myself in because I wanted to get help. Nobody was telling me to do this. I came to the realization that, 'Koren, you need help.' I've got to do what I had to do. I feel like I can be a living testimony by being able to stop this."
Robinson is a talented 26-year-old former first-round choice with the potential to be a No. 1 receiver on a team. But first, Koren Robinson had to take care of Koren Robinson.
The process started last week.
John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
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madviking10
Footballguy
At least the Vikings don't do CRACK.(How's that QB position working out?)
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madviking10
Footballguy
BTW, anyone remember some lost cause the Viking picked up a few years back on the cheap?His name was Caringer, Carris, or ummmm, Carter , thats it !! 
The Gatekeeper
Footballguy
Yeah remember that Vikings player a couple of years ago that barricaded himself in the street with cardboard boxes and lawn furniture while pointing his shotgun.....oh wait that was Alonzo Spellman a Bears player. My bad!
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
FunkyPlutos
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MLBrandow
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This has to be a very bad sign for the state of the Vikings receiving corps. They must have been fooled by all the highlight reel catches those ex-Baltimore cast-offs made!Damn you Brian Billick!
FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
They would have to cut Kelly Campbell (another player with law trouble)...I would rather have K-rob (insert K-drop jokes here) than Kelly Campbell on the team!!
The Gatekeeper
Footballguy
I don't think there would be many WR corps as good as Burleson, Taylor, Marcus Robinson, Koren Robinson, and Troy Williamson. A potential stud in Burleson, 3 first round picks, and a former pro-bowler. Not bad at all.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Here's what many don't understand. KoRnHoLe is a ####### liability!!! All the potential in the world doesn't change the fact that he has medical problems with his eyes and can't catch!!! On top of that he's dealing with going completely sober and that takes a long time to deal with, so his mind won't be near even what counts as his top form. He's a waste. Scratch that, he's more than a waste. He's a LIABILITY. He'll get open all day and when you need the catch from him...send out the punt team!
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FunkyPlutos
Footballguy
diesel7982
Footballguy
My guess, and I havent read the article so forgive me if I repeat something here, is that KoRo will be suspended for the entire 2005 season, and the Vikes are locking him down for next year when they anticipate MRob and possibly Travis Taylor will be out the door.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
So much for improving team chemistry.If singed for cheap its a shrewd move but we really did not have success with rehabilitating Jake Reed who had a vision problem either
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Keels said Robinson, the former Seattle Seahawks first-round draft pick, won't play in Sunday's regular-season opener against Tampa Bay, but he should be ready for Week 2, when the Vikings travel to Cincinnati.
diesel7982
Footballguy
We'll see...I dont think the NFL would move to suspend him til he plays again. But then again, Im sure the Vikes have done their research, so if they are planning on him being available, I dont think they'll get surprised otherwise.
mydixie
Footballguy
We'll see...I dont think the NFL would move to suspend him til he plays again. But then again, Im sure the Vikes have done their research, so if they are planning on him being available, I dont think they'll get surprised otherwise. 
You forgot this. I thought I had better include it before someone gets the idea that the Vikes are a well run team.
You forgot this. I thought I had better include it before someone gets the idea that the Vikes are a well run team.
GhostOfAnAlias
Footballguy
WRBCKnock Burleson down a spot or two, knock Taylor and Robinson down several spots, and knock Williamson and Campbell off the board altogether.
Me & My Uncle
Footballguy
Even if Robinson turns out better than ever, that STILL won't justify Culpepper's ADP. Sigh. But it would bring him into the top 5 for me if KR works out well.
Here's how I see Robinson fitting in: at the beginning of the year he will have very limited playing time, eventually taking over a lot of Marcus Robinson's role and all of Campbell's role if he even has one. Sometime during the season, he'll probably be suspended for a year.Next year, Marcus Robinson and Kelly Campbell will be shown the door. Koren will battle Taylor for playing time as the #3 WR next year.Williamson will not be effected by this move. His role in the offense was the be a deep threat and stretch the field, much like the role Moss had at the start of his rookie season. Robinson won't cut into that. He may cut into Taylor's playing time a little bit, but the main losers here are Marcus and Wiggins. The Vikings will be running a lot of 3 RB sets, meaning less 2 TE sets. Kleinsasser will probably get the nod for more playing time because he's a great blocker.
Shermanator
Footballguy
Isnt every team WRBC?
Wolfpacker
Footballguy
Not to argue here, because I don't know, but is this confirmed? I've read where Peerless Price has some medical problems with his eyes, but this is the first I've seen concerning Robinson.
Bristol
Footballguy
I see the Krob signing as a non issue. Like most have already stated, this is most likley a move towards next year. As for this year, I could see him cutting in later int he season and taking some time away from Taylor and Marcus (most likely Marcus). He is definitely a player to keep an eye on from week to week. If he blows up for a big game somewhere doen the road, sell your eye teeth to get him because lunkhead Tice will start him from that point on.My 2 cents.....
GhostOfAnAlias
Footballguy
1. Because KRob isn't just going to take touches from MRob and Taylor -- he'll take a few touches from Burleson as well. Not many, but enough to make me think twice when I see Burleson available on the draft board.2. KRob's signing just might be a sign that Tice isn't 100% confident in Burleson as his #1 WR. KRob has been a #1 WR before; Burleson has not. For all we know, Burleson could be a Peerless Price type who is at his best when he has a clear-cut #1 starting with him.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Burleson + Taylor + Robinson + Williamson + K-Rob = 
All this talk of what this says about Burleson misses the mark IMHO. I think this speaks much more about how not-ready-for-primetime Troy Williamson is. Not a surprise to some of us, but I've seen plenty of people drink the Williamson Kool Aid this preseason despite his consistently running with the 2nd and 3rd stringers.
All this talk of what this says about Burleson misses the mark IMHO. I think this speaks much more about how not-ready-for-primetime Troy Williamson is. Not a surprise to some of us, but I've seen plenty of people drink the Williamson Kool Aid this preseason despite his consistently running with the 2nd and 3rd stringers.
