L. Naanee SD WR (1 Viewer)

[JohnnyU]

I like posting with both, and I'm sorry if that is an inconvenience for others.

It isn't hard to log out and log back in. Using 2 separate identities in one thread creates the false impression that one is stating an opinion and the other is agreeing with it. There's no need for that.

Like I said, I'm sorry, and I didn't mean to mislead anyone and was unfront about it from the beginning. I have several computers in different places and sometimes forget who I'm signed on as on each.

In other words you're going to keep doing it, despite the fact that it's deceptive?

Can we give it a rest and get back on topic please?

Thank you. Mods, feel free to delete the BS posts in this thread.

 

[switz]

The staff likes Floyd. For better or worse the coaches are grooming Floyd to play Chambers's spot, not Naanee. If/when Chambers goes it's as likely as not that Floyd gets his spot in the lineup. Where does that leave Naanee?

Gr00vus, I'm interested in where you are hearing this. Just from everything I hear, that's not the case at all. In fact, during the offseason, I'd heard that the coaches were going to play Naanee and Floyd both more often, to see which one would step up to be Chambers replacement next season. Then during the preseason, I heard they were pretty convinced that Naanee was going to take a huge leap forward and end up being that guy.While they have Floyd on the depth chart behind Chambers, and Naanee behind Jackson, that's not a true indicator of where they are running routes from. They had in the last game IIRC a couple plays where VJax and Naanee were on the field at the same time. So Floyd isn't locked into Chambers spot by any means from what I can see, or have heard.What have you heard differently?

 

[switz]

Like I said, I'm sorry, and I didn't mean to mislead anyone and was unfront about it from the beginning. I have several computers in different places and sometimes forget who I'm signed on as on each.

In other words you're going to keep doing it, despite the fact that it's deceptive?

Can we give it a rest and get back on topic please?

Thank you. Mods, feel free to delete the BS posts in this thread.

And the duplicate accounts

 

[Gr00vus]

Hoss here (aka JohnnyU) You want to say "real sharks would have already drafted him" like you've always drafted every player that's been a stud for you. Don't insult my intelligence with that garbage. Also, it's no surprise you drafted Naanee since you're a SD homer I don't claim to make all the right moves. I do take some chances sometimes like the move for Naanee. Also, I'll go out on a limb and say I've been pretty successful in $$$ leagues against strong competition. Have you?ETA: I didn't get him for $55, I lost out to the commish for $61 in the $150 league, so I didn't blow my wad on him in that league. I paid $125 in a $1000 league with carryovers. That's 10% or less if you have more than $1000. In all the other leagues I picked him off the WW for free, and traded for him in another.

You didn't blow your wad on him in that league - but you tried to. The reasoning is the same regardless. You tried to overpay.As for the rest, I'm going to bow out of an internet toughguy debate.

 

[Gr00vus]

you can make a case that rivers became the focal point of the offense LAST year...

I did make that case - last year before it happened (you can check Rivers/Chargers threads from 2008 preseason).

some SD insiders (quoted by maurile) think naanee is being groomed as the WR2 over floyd, who may not be back as a RFA... naanee's skill set might complement VJ's better... jackson can work the intermediate routes, but is a great deep threat (didn't he lead all WRs with over 50 catches in YPC, with something like 18+?)... floyd seems like a clone... naanee may be better possession WR, & is probably stronger after the catch (& potentially as blocker?), & therefore could be better complement to jackson...

This is true - which is why it's not evident to me he's going to be Chambers's successor. Those aren't the routes Chambers runs and it's not the skill set Chambers has. In truth I think Naanee's skill set is more like Jackson's than anyone else's maybe with a bit less game speed. With what's going on with the personnel I think they're going to have to evolve into using more 3 wide sets, so maybe there will be more opportunity for Naanee to get reps and touches.

 

[Gr00vus]

The staff likes Floyd. For better or worse the coaches are grooming Floyd to play Chambers's spot, not Naanee. If/when Chambers goes it's as likely as not that Floyd gets his spot in the lineup. Where does that leave Naanee?

Gr00vus, I'm interested in where you are hearing this. Just from everything I hear, that's not the case at all. In fact, during the offseason, I'd heard that the coaches were going to play Naanee and Floyd both more often, to see which one would step up to be Chambers replacement next season. Then during the preseason, I heard they were pretty convinced that Naanee was going to take a huge leap forward and end up being that guy.While they have Floyd on the depth chart behind Chambers, and Naanee behind Jackson, that's not a true indicator of where they are running routes from. They had in the last game IIRC a couple plays where VJax and Naanee were on the field at the same time. So Floyd isn't locked into Chambers spot by any means from what I can see, or have heard.What have you heard differently?

If you noticed Naanee isn't usually lined up wide - he's usually in the slot somewhere. Floyd on the other hand is usually lined up wide (and was also on the field at the same time - he just didn't get the targets), usually on the right side - where Chambers normally is. There was plenty of pre season pub about how pleased the coaches and Rivers were with Floyd.

 

[Tau837]

The staff likes Floyd. For better or worse the coaches are grooming Floyd to play Chambers's spot, not Naanee. If/when Chambers goes it's as likely as not that Floyd gets his spot in the lineup. Where does that leave Naanee?

Gr00vus, I'm interested in where you are hearing this. Just from everything I hear, that's not the case at all. In fact, during the offseason, I'd heard that the coaches were going to play Naanee and Floyd both more often, to see which one would step up to be Chambers replacement next season. Then during the preseason, I heard they were pretty convinced that Naanee was going to take a huge leap forward and end up being that guy.While they have Floyd on the depth chart behind Chambers, and Naanee behind Jackson, that's not a true indicator of where they are running routes from. They had in the last game IIRC a couple plays where VJax and Naanee were on the field at the same time. So Floyd isn't locked into Chambers spot by any means from what I can see, or have heard.

What have you heard differently?

If you noticed Naanee isn't usually lined up wide - he's usually in the slot somewhere. Floyd on the other hand is usually lined up wide (and was also on the field at the same time - he just didn't get the targets), usually on the right side - where Chambers normally is. There was plenty of pre season pub about how pleased the coaches and Rivers were with Floyd.

Actually, according to this, Naanee was on the field for 27 plays, compared to only 6 for Floyd, and they were on the field together only twice. Naanee was in the slot for 16 of those 27 plays. And, incidentally, Chambers was on the field for 54 plays.I still have faith in Floyd and I'm not ready to draw any conclusions from one game. But I have to admit I'm pretty surprised at these numbers.

 

[Gr00vus]

The staff likes Floyd. For better or worse the coaches are grooming Floyd to play Chambers's spot, not Naanee. If/when Chambers goes it's as likely as not that Floyd gets his spot in the lineup. Where does that leave Naanee?

Gr00vus, I'm interested in where you are hearing this. Just from everything I hear, that's not the case at all. In fact, during the offseason, I'd heard that the coaches were going to play Naanee and Floyd both more often, to see which one would step up to be Chambers replacement next season. Then during the preseason, I heard they were pretty convinced that Naanee was going to take a huge leap forward and end up being that guy.While they have Floyd on the depth chart behind Chambers, and Naanee behind Jackson, that's not a true indicator of where they are running routes from. They had in the last game IIRC a couple plays where VJax and Naanee were on the field at the same time. So Floyd isn't locked into Chambers spot by any means from what I can see, or have heard.

What have you heard differently?

If you noticed Naanee isn't usually lined up wide - he's usually in the slot somewhere. Floyd on the other hand is usually lined up wide (and was also on the field at the same time - he just didn't get the targets), usually on the right side - where Chambers normally is. There was plenty of pre season pub about how pleased the coaches and Rivers were with Floyd.

Actually, according to this, Naanee was on the field for 27 plays, compared to only 6 for Floyd, and they were on the field together only twice. Naanee was in the slot for 16 of those 27 plays. And, incidentally, Chambers was on the field for 54 plays.I still have faith in Floyd and I'm not ready to draw any conclusions from one game. But I have to admit I'm pretty surprised at these numbers.

I was speaking more in general - not so much about last week's game. Maybe last week continues into a trend - I wouldn't complain if they worked Naanee into the offense more. I think Naanee is better than Floyd myself.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Profootballfocus.com has the data regarding which players got how many snaps (and in which lineups).

In week one, Naanee was on the field for 27 plays.

M.Floyd was on the field for 6 plays. (Same as Osgood.)

(For those who think Naanee has jumped ahead of Chambers -- not so fast. Chambers was on the field for 54 plays.)

The personnel when Naanee and Floyd were in was as follows.

Legedu

21 plays w/ V.Jax & Chambers

2 plays w/ V.Jax, Chambers, Floyd

2 plays w/ Osgood & Chambers

1 play w/ V.Jax

1 play as lone WR

Floyd

2 plays w/ V.Jax, Chambers, Naanee

2 plays w/ V.Jax, Chambers

1 play w/ V.Jax

1 play w/ Osgood

ETA: JWB posted while I was doing that.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Actually, according to this, Naanee was on the field for 27 plays, compared to only 6 for Floyd, and they were on the field together only twice.

And those were both in 4-WR sets.

 

[Jackal King]

(For those who think Naanee has jumped ahead of Chambers -- not so fast. Chambers was on the field for 54 plays.)

On the field for 54 snaps.1 target.Give me Naanee...thank you.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

(For those who think Naanee has jumped ahead of Chambers -- not so fast. Chambers was on the field for 54 plays.)

On the field for 54 snaps.1 target.Give me Naanee...thank you.

The Raiders' cornerbacks are pretty good on the outside. Vincent Jackson was pretty quiet for most of the game as well. I think operating out of the slot gave Naanee an advantage over Chambers, who was lining up outside. But that won't necessarily be the case against other opponents.

 

[Al Czervik]

What happened with Naanee this week?

1 catch for 8 Yds

1 run for -5 Yds

3 targets

Rivers threw 45 times. If this guy was going to be a part of the offense, you would think he would get more than 3 targets.

 

[Jedeye]

Tons of good analysis in this thread. But sometimes you just have to go with what your eyes tell you. Mine tell me that Naanee is the second best WR on the Chargers. Time will tell.

 

[Gr00vus]

What happened with Naanee this week? 1 catch for 8 Yds1 run for -5 Yds3 targetsRivers threw 45 times. If this guy was going to be a part of the offense, you would think he would get more than 3 targets.

It's what I've been trying to tell people here - targets/receptions are going to vary widely week to week for everyone who isn't Gates/Jackson/RBs.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

What happened with Naanee this week? 1 catch for 8 Yds1 run for -5 Yds3 targetsRivers threw 45 times. If this guy was going to be a part of the offense, you would think he would get more than 3 targets.

It's what I've been trying to tell people here - targets/receptions are going to vary widely week to week for everyone who isn't Gates/Jackson/RBs.

Those in dynasty leagues are looking well beyond a few weeks. His time will come, and that time is probably when they boot Chambers out of SD.

 

[thatguy]

I like posting with both, and I'm sorry if that is an inconvenience for others.

It isn't hard to log out and log back in. Using 2 separate identities in one thread creates the false impression that one is stating an opinion and the other is agreeing with it. There's no need for that.

Like I said, I'm sorry, and I didn't mean to mislead anyone and was unfront about it from the beginning. I have several computers in different places and sometimes forget who I'm signed on as on each.

In other words you're going to keep doing it, despite the fact that it's deceptive?

It's common knowledge around these parts that Hoss=JohnnyU... The notion that he does this to be deceptive is laughable.

 

[switz]

What happened with Naanee this week? 1 catch for 8 Yds1 run for -5 Yds3 targetsRivers threw 45 times. If this guy was going to be a part of the offense, you would think he would get more than 3 targets.

It's what I've been trying to tell people here - targets/receptions are going to vary widely week to week for everyone who isn't Gates/Jackson/RBs.

No one has disagreed with that... the discussion is whether Naanee can take over when Chambers leaves.

 

[Gr00vus]

What happened with Naanee this week? 1 catch for 8 Yds1 run for -5 Yds3 targetsRivers threw 45 times. If this guy was going to be a part of the offense, you would think he would get more than 3 targets.

It's what I've been trying to tell people here - targets/receptions are going to vary widely week to week for everyone who isn't Gates/Jackson/RBs.

No one has disagreed with that... the discussion is whether Naanee can take over when Chambers leaves.

Right, and my two points are you aren't going to figure that out based on game stats this season and that you shouldn't overpay for him in your FA bids.

 

[DanFouts]

I think he will be good and take over for Chambers next year...

He had 2 "big" plays in the game though...

1. Missed a TD catch at the end (tough catch, but he has good hands)..

2. Missed getting the first down at the end with too much shake and bake :X

 

[Casting Couch]

I think he will be good and take over for Chambers next year...He had 2 "big" plays in the game though...1. Missed a TD catch at the end (tough catch, but he has good hands).. 2. Missed getting the first down at the end with too much shake and bake

I also think Naanee will be the one to eventually take over for Chambers next year.Patience should be rewarded with LN.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

What happened with Naanee this week? 1 catch for 8 Yds1 run for -5 Yds3 targetsRivers threw 45 times. If this guy was going to be a part of the offense, you would think he would get more than 3 targets.

It's what I've been trying to tell people here - targets/receptions are going to vary widely week to week for everyone who isn't Gates/Jackson/RBs.

No one has disagreed with that... the discussion is whether Naanee can take over when Chambers leaves.

Right, and my two points are you aren't going to figure that out based on game stats this season and that you shouldn't overpay for him in your FA bids.

What's your hangup with FA bids? I believe now is the time to get him in dynasty leagues, and if paying a little more in FA bids seucres him for the future, who cares whether you paid some FA cash for him? All of us aren't Charger homers and drafted him

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

I think he will be good and take over for Chambers next year...

He had 2 "big" plays in the game though...

1. Missed a TD catch at the end (tough catch, but he has good hands)..

2. Missed getting the first down at the end with too much shake and bake

This was huge, I was yelling at the tv. He had the first down and kept dancing. This set up the whole 4th and 2 run debacle.

 

[Gr00vus]

What's your hangup with FA bids? I believe now is the time to get him in dynasty leagues, and if paying a little more in FA bids seucres him for the future, who cares whether you paid some FA cash for him? All of us aren't Charger homers and drafted him

I'm saying there are probably better things you could do with the FA bid points than try to blow 1/3 of your budget on Naanee - whether it be other emerging guys or on injury/cruddy player replacements. You think you've found fantasy gold - I'm saying you can probably pick him up for a ham sandwich in about 3 weeks, either in trade or off the waiver wire after he puts up a couple more 2 target games in a row. I find it amusing that you didn't know anything about this guy until one game last week and now you're married to him. Doesn't sound rational to me, and irrational decisions usually don't work out so well.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

What's your hangup with FA bids? I believe now is the time to get him in dynasty leagues, and if paying a little more in FA bids seucres him for the future, who cares whether you paid some FA cash for him? All of us aren't Charger homers and drafted him

I'm saying there are probably better things you could do with the FA bid points than try to blow 1/3 of your budget on Naanee - whether it be other emerging guys or on injury/cruddy player replacements. You think you've found fantasy gold - I'm saying you can probably pick him up for a ham sandwich in about 3 weeks, either in trade or off the waiver wire after he puts up a couple more 2 target games in a row. I find it amusing that you didn't know anything about this guy until one game last week and now you're married to him. Doesn't sound rational to me, and irrational decisions usually don't work out so well.

I didn't say I hadn't heard of him, I just hadn't seen him play. Big difference. When I saw him play I saw a lot of potential. That's not irrational at all.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

San Diego homers (or anyone watching the Chargers game). Naanee caught a 15-yard pass on 1st and 10 in the 1st Q. Did he start in place of Chambers?

 

[Alluro]

Anyone who saw the game want to comment on how he looked today?

 

[Alluro]

 

[California]

Curious also which of Naanee or Floyd is the one to own in a dynasty league.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Naanee has 20 receptions this season. FBG has him with 24 targets; ESPN has him with 22 targets. Either way, that's a pretty sick percentage.

 

[Jackal King]

Curious also which of Naanee or Floyd is the one to own in a dynasty league.

This question has bubbled up a few times in the SP this season. The Floyd supporters seem to be the majority, including some Charger insiders. And, it does look like the coaches favor Floyd at the moment.But...every time I have an opportunity to see Naanee...he looks like a talent that has far more upside.

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

Thoughts on Naanee going in to this season an the undisputed starter? Beat writer Kevin Acee says Naanee's potential is "limitless"

 

[whodeywhodey]

Thoughts on Naanee going in to this season an the undisputed starter? Beat writer Kevin Acee says Naanee's potential is "limitless"

Do a search.There is an almost "limitless" number of threads.

 

[Mortimer Ichabod]

Thoughts on Naanee going in to this season an the undisputed starter? Beat writer Kevin Acee says Naanee's potential is "limitless"

Do a search.There is an almost "limitless" number of threads.

I did a search for Naanee and there were only three outdated threads.

 

[stuckinthemuck]

Naanee has 20 receptions this season. FBG has him with 24 targets; ESPN has him with 22 targets. Either way, that's a pretty sick percentage.

Got him yesterday in the 19th round of a 14 team league. All he needs is 100 targets to get 90 receptions this year I'll settle for a slightly lower percentage when I plug him into my lineup during bye weeks, if needed. He's a terrific value for where I got him, but he's still the third or fourth option on the Chargers. If he averages 60 yards receiving per game I'll be satisfied.

 

[Gr00vus]

I like Naanee better than Floyd this year considering their ADPs. I think they'll put up similar numbers when they play and you can get Naanee several rounds later than Floyd. I also think Naanee is much tougher/more durable than Floyd. Naanee is the reason A.J. is comfortable letting Jackson sit and spin.

 

[az_prof]

I made sure I had Nannee on my FBG survivor contest team. I like his chances of putting up good numbers at some point this season. Not sure when and not sure how regular. He has some talent and now has an opportunity.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Getting to that point im considering dropping this fella.

He had a great opportunity to shine and he didnt come thru.

Vjax coming soon and Flyod looks to have cemented his place in the offense.

Any others cutting lose on Legedu? (his bye week makes it hard for me to carry him too right now, i need replacements)

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Getting to that point im considering dropping this fella.He had a great opportunity to shine and he didnt come thru.Vjax coming soon and Flyod looks to have cemented his place in the offense. Any others cutting lose on Legedu? (his bye week makes it hard for me to carry him too right now, i need replacements)

Yep. The first thing I thought when I saw that Floyd and Gates went down was "Now's the time to drop Naanee."

 

[vandyt]

Getting to that point im considering dropping this fella.He had a great opportunity to shine and he didnt come thru.Vjax coming soon and Flyod looks to have cemented his place in the offense. Any others cutting lose on Legedu? (his bye week makes it hard for me to carry him too right now, i need replacements)

Yep. The first thing I thought when I saw that Floyd and Gates went down was "Now's the time to drop Naanee."

Maybe not the first thing you should have thought, but still a valid thought. Davis and Crayton have bigger roles in the passing offense, and Naanee is dealing with a lingering hammy issue. He shouldn't be on any rosters except in the deepest of leagues.

 

[gary mexico]

I like Naanee better than Floyd this year considering their ADPs. I think they'll put up similar numbers when they play and you can get Naanee several rounds later than Floyd.

Well arent you the bargain shopper?? Hows that workin out?

 

[jsharlan]

Getting to that point im considering dropping this fella.He had a great opportunity to shine and he didnt come thru.Vjax coming soon and Flyod looks to have cemented his place in the offense. Any others cutting lose on Legedu? (his bye week makes it hard for me to carry him too right now, i need replacements)

Yep. The first thing I thought when I saw that Floyd and Gates went down was "Now's the time to drop Naanee."

Maybe not the first thing you should have thought, but still a valid thought. Davis and Crayton have bigger roles in the passing offense, and Naanee is dealing with a lingering hammy issue. He shouldn't be on any rosters except in the deepest of leagues.

They have bigger roles in the passing game based on one game when both Floyd and Naanee, not to mention Gates were out? I think thats a bit of a stretch. Naanee hasn't played in the last two games, I think we need to see him on the field with Davis and Crayton and see what happens now that Floyd is sitting.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I like Naanee better than Floyd this year considering their ADPs. I think they'll put up similar numbers when they play and you can get Naanee several rounds later than Floyd.

Well arent you the bargain shopper?? Hows that workin out?

Gee, that's a helpful post. Are you going to scroll through other old posts and point out where people were wrong?

 

[Alex P Keaton]

They have bigger roles in the passing game based on one game when both Floyd and Naanee, not to mention Gates were out? I think thats a bit of a stretch. Naanee hasn't played in the last two games, I think we need to see him on the field with Davis and Crayton and see what happens now that Floyd is sitting.

Seems reasonable, but at the same time, Naanee has been a bit disappointing even when healthy. Whereas Crayton has at least produced when given opportunities. I don't think it's a huge stretch to suggest that Crayton could (and perhaps even SHOULD) play a bigger role in the offense going forward.

 

[jsharlan]

They have bigger roles in the passing game based on one game when both Floyd and Naanee, not to mention Gates were out? I think thats a bit of a stretch. Naanee hasn't played in the last two games, I think we need to see him on the field with Davis and Crayton and see what happens now that Floyd is sitting.

Seems reasonable, but at the same time, Naanee has been a bit disappointing even when healthy. Whereas Crayton has at least produced when given opportunities. I don't think it's a huge stretch to suggest that Crayton could (and perhaps even SHOULD) play a bigger role in the offense going forward.

They both have 11 catches and Naanee has missed time. I don't see how any of the three has separated themselves.

 

[Gr00vus]

I like Naanee better than Floyd this year considering their ADPs. I think they'll put up similar numbers when they play and you can get Naanee several rounds later than Floyd.

Well arent you the bargain shopper?? Hows that workin out?

Is the season over already? I must have missed that. I guess we'll find out since Naanee will probably be back this week and Floyd is now all too predictably on the shelf again for who knows how long.But don't let that stop you from playing Floyd this week since you've so aptly implied he'll outperform Naanee.